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Offline Froderik

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Which Code is Worth Crunching?
« on: July 21, 2003, 11:06:00 PM »
Question for you programmers out there...in your collective estimation, what is the best place to start for someone who wants to learn some code that will get them EMPLOYED at a decent salary (or other form of income) in this day and age?
I know a little HTML and some DOS batch file commands. If you were me, where would you go from here? I've been told not to waste my time with web design by lots of people...that it's hard to find a job in this field. Right now I'm an A+ NET+ tech with a fair amount of experience. So what then? Visual Basic? Java?

Any input would be greatly appreciated...
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2003, 01:55:00 PM »
Try SQL. For the most part, the dot-com boom and bust was all about retail marketing. The real meat and potatos of the IT economy is not about spam that people don't want. It's about information that people do want and that they can't or don't have the time to develop for themseves; finding it, compiling it, tracking it, creating it, buying, selling and applying all that dry, tedious data into something useful and interesting.

It's not hard to find a host with mySQL w/ PHP. That's probably a pretty good way to find out if you have the aptitude for data crunching and if you enjoy it. Besides, Php rocks :wink:

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2003, 03:42:00 PM »
Thanks, Ginger. I knew I could count on you to reply to this if no one else did. You da man, I mean the WOman, lol. I'm looking into PHP & SQL right now...

http://us4.php.net/tut.php

http://sqlcourse.com/intro.html

I'll have 'em down in a few hours.  :lol:
So, why PHP over VB?
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2003, 12:43:00 AM »
Oh, I don't know. Never got into VB. I went from Basic to Perl and struggled to habituate myself to a Unix environment with a DOS education. It was hard. The stigma is pretty tough.

So Php grows wild on Unix web servers, especially wherever Apache and mySql can be found. It's very Perl/C-like. So that's what I've been grazing on lately.

What made you get into VB?

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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2003, 11:24:00 AM »
I'm not into it yet. Someone recommended that I learn it thru the tutorial included in Excel. They said that there is big $ in it (VB). I am now earning $11 an hour with *no benefits* working thru a temp agency configuring wireless access points for a hospital (So far, this has meant updating the Opeational Firmware and the BootROM to current versions.) The hours are usually not steady. I have two kids and pay a mortgage. I am CLUELESS as to what kind of programmers businesses are now looking for. You shed a little bit of light on that, but I still wonder if VB is worth learning or not...Really, I wonder if I should bother with code at all, and just stick to configuring networks. Network admins do allright...
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2003, 12:09:00 PM »
Oh, well, then I wouldn't recomend spending the time to learn a language under those circumstances.

Tech work is just like any other kind of work. If you want to draw an alegory to carpentry I think this stands up. To become a master carpenter, you don't start out by practicing using a saw and hammer in solitude then go looking for something build. You start out by trying your hand at making a table out of scrap, then a better one, then maybe one worth buying good new material.

Same thing here. Just keep kicking ass on the work that you can find, solve problems, be a hero and thereby establish your reputation while picking up complimentary skills along the way. If you're working the medical field, sooner or later, you'll probably be asked to try your hand at beating a Merlin PBX into submission. If you can do that, you'll never run out of work.

Also, there's probably nothing in your contract preventing you from doing just what you're doing now for your own private customers. So print up some cards, cary a few with you and hand them out to whoever you run into who might some day need your help.

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