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FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« on: July 16, 2008, 12:49:55 PM »
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Considering a Private Residential Treatment Program for a Troubled Teen? Questions for Parents and Guardians to Ask
Private residential treatment programs for young people offer a range of services, including drug and alcohol treatment, confidence building, military-style discipline, and psychological counseling for a variety of addiction, behavioral, and emotional problems. Many of these programs are intended to provide a less-restrictive alternative to incarceration or hospitalization, or an intervention for a troubled young person.

If you are a parent or guardian and think you have exhausted intervention alternatives for a troubled teen, you may be considering a private residential treatment program. These programs go by a variety of names, including “therapeutic boarding schools,” “emotional growth academies,” “teen boot camps,” “behavior modification facilities,” and “wilderness therapy programs.”

No standard definitions exist for specific types of programs. The programs are not regulated by the federal government, and many are not subject to state licensing or monitoring as mental health or educational facilities, either. A 2007 Report to Congress by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) found cases involving serious abuse and neglect at some of these programs. Many programs advertise on the Internet and through other media, making claims about staff credentials, the level of treatment a participant will receive, program accreditation, education credit transfers, success rates, and endorsements by educational consultants.

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation’s consumer protection agency, cautions that before you enroll a youngster in a private residential treatment program, check it out: ask questions; ask for proof or support for claims about staff credentials, program accreditation, and endorsements; do a site visit; and get all policies and promises in writing.

Questions to Ask

Here are some questions to ask representatives of any program you may be considering. The responses may help you determine if the program is appropriate for your child.

Are you licensed by the state?
If the answer is yes, find out what aspects of the program the license covers: educational, mental/behavioral health, and/or residential?

If the program claims to be licensed, get the name of the state agency that issued the license and contact the agency to verify that the license is current. Often, the licensing will be through a state Department of Health and Human Services or its equivalent. If the program’s representative can’t provide the name of the licensing agency, consider it a red flag.

If the program is unlicensed and you still want to consider it, contact the state Attorney General (www.naag.org), the Better Business Bureau (www.bbb.org), and the local consumer protection office (www.consumeraction.gov/state.shtml) where the program is located.

Regardless of whether a program is licensed, when contacting any of these groups:
Ask for copies of all publicly available information, including any complaints or actions filed against the program, site visit evaluations, violations, and corrective actions.
Pay particular attention to any reports of unsanitary or unsafe living conditions, nutritionally compromised diets, exposure to extreme environmental conditions or extreme physical exertion, inadequate staff supervision or a low ratio of staff to residents, medical neglect, physical or sexual abuse of youth by program staff or other residents, and any violation of youth or family rights.
Do you provide an academic curriculum?
If so, is it available to all program participants? Do you have teachers who are certified or licensed by your state? Some programs may offer only self-study or distance education. Sometimes, educational options are not made available until a resident has reached an advanced phase of the program. In addition, some programs may claim that academic credits will transfer to the resident’s home school and count toward a high school diploma. Check with the board of education in the state where the program operates – and with your state board if you live out-of-state – to verify that academic credits will transfer.

What about accreditation?
Several independent nonprofit organizations, like the Joint Commission (JACHO), the Council on Accreditation (COA), and the Commission on Accreditation of Rehabilitation Facilities (CARF), accredit mental health programs and providers.

JACHO accredits and certifies more than 15,000 health care organizations and programs in the U.S. (www.jointcommission.org)
COA is an international child- and family-service and behavioral healthcare organization that accredits 38 different service areas, including substance abuse treatment, and more than 60 types of programs. (www.coanet.org)
CARF International is an independent accreditor of human services providers in areas including behavioral health, child and youth services, and employment and community services. (www.carf.org)
Ask whether all components of the program are accredited, for example, the base program, the drug and alcohol component, and the wilderness program. Then contact the accrediting organization for confirmation.

The GAO’s Report noted that one program claimed to be accredited by the JACHO, but in fact, only the base program was accredited. Neither the wilderness program nor the drug and alcohol component was accredited.

The organizations above grant accreditation and certification after evaluating the quality of services provided by a treatment program. Parents and guardians should be aware that some other organizations that claim to accredit schools may serve merely as membership organizations, and may not conduct site inspections or otherwise evaluate the quality of the programs they certify. If a treatment program claims to be certified or accredited, parents and guardians should contact the accrediting organization and ask about the standards the organization uses when issuing a certification.

Do you have a clinical director? What are his/her credentials?
Typically, a clinical director is responsible for overseeing, supporting, and maintaining the quality of care for the program. A clinical director may have an advanced degree in a related field, like clinical psychology, and may be involved in providing individual therapy, assessment and consultation, staff training and development, and managing or supervising the components of the program.

What are the credentials of the staff, especially the counselors and therapists, who will be working with my child?
Do they have appropriate and relevant advanced degrees like a Masters in Social Work, a license to do clinical social work (LCSW), a Ph.D., or an M.D.? Are they certified or licensed within the state? If they are, by what agency or organization?

Ask to see copies of relevant documents, and consider contacting the certifying or licensing organization to confirm the staff credentials. The GAO found that some program leaders falsely claimed to have credentials in therapy or medicine, which led some parents to trust them with teens who had serious mental or physical disabilities requiring different levels of treatment.

How experienced is your staff? Have they worked at other residential treatment programs? If yes, where and for how long?
Ask to see current certifications in CPR and other emergency medicine. For wilderness programs, also ask for proof of relevant training and expertise.

Do you conduct background checks on your employees?
If the answer is yes, find out who does the background check and how extensive it is. Call the company to confirm that it provides background check services for the treatment program. If the answer is no or the program does not conduct background checks, consider it a red flag.

What are the criteria for admission ? Do you conduct pre-admission assessments? Are they in person, by phone, or over the Internet? Who conducts them?
If your child has serious addiction problems or psychological issues, take special care to ensure that the program is equipped to deal with them. Discuss the appropriateness of the program with your child’s psychologist, psychiatrist, or other healthcare provider.

Will you provide an individualized program with a detailed explanation of the therapies, interventions, and supports that will address my child’s needs? When is this done? How often will my child be reassessed?
Ask whether your child will have group or individual therapy sessions. If the answer is yes, ask how often the sessions will take place and who will conduct them. Once enrolled, confirm with your child that the promised level of care is being received.

How do you handle medical issues like illness or injury? Is there a nurse or doctor on staff? On the premises? Will you contact me? Will I be notified or consulted if there’s a change in treatment or medication?
Ask for copies of procedures the program follows on dealing with medical emergencies.

How do you define success? What is your success rate? How is it measured?
Some programs make specific success claims in their advertising materials. To date, there is no systematic, independently collected descriptive or outcome data on these programs.

How do you discipline program participants?
Ask about policies and procedures for discipline.

Can I contact/speak with my child when I want? Can my child contact me when he wants?
Some programs prohibit, monitor, or otherwise restrict verbal or written communication between you and your child. Find out what is allowed and prohibited before you enroll your child.

What are the costs? What do they cover? What is your refund policy if the program doesn’t work out?
Private residential treatment programs often charge hundreds of dollars per day. While health insurance sometimes may pay a limited amount, for the most part, the youngster’s family is responsible for paying the fees and bills.

Do you have relationships with companies and individuals that provide educational and referral services?
Some companies may provide services, claiming to match troubled kids with an appropriate treatment program. Be aware that although some of these services represent themselves as independent, they may not be. They may actually be operated or paid by one or more of the treatment programs. Ask the service if it receives commissions from the treatment programs.
Or "donations"
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For More Information

Among the sources of information for families researching private residential treatment programs for troubled youngsters are:

The Government Accountability Office’s (GAO) Report to Congress: “Residential Treatment Programs: Concerns Regarding Abuse and Death in Certain Programs for Troubled Youth” (October 2007) – www.gao.gov
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s list of state mental health agencies – www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/state_orgs.htm
The U.S. Department of State Fact Sheet: “Behavior Modification Facilities” – www.state.gov
Your State Attorney General – www.naag.org
The Alliance for the Safe, Therapeutic and Appropriate use of Residential Treatment (A START) – http://astart.fmhi.usf.edu. A START is sponsored by the Department of Child and Family Studies of the University of South Florida. The Alliance includes leaders in psychology, psychiatry, nursing, mental health law, policy and family advocacy, as well as individuals with direct program experience as director, evaluator, parent, or participant in such programs.
About the FTC

The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint or to get free information on consumer issues, visit ftc.gov or call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad.
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 12:56:30 PM »
Why in the world would the FTC list A Start as a "resource"?

Why not list a watchdog org. like ISAC who maintains a program watchlist and provides information specific to a range of issues relative to the TTI?
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 01:18:47 PM »
Hi, Guest,

The topic of ASTART vs. CAFETY vs. ISAC, etc. has been discussed at great length elsewhere on fornits, and if you want to explore further, I would suggesting reading and posting there. I think you will find it informative and have others who want to discuss with you. (Psy, sorry to bug, but maybe you know where to look for the links to those CAFETY discussions?)

I'm glad to see that the FTC is taking action of any kind to raise warnings about the many unsafe practices in programs. Together with the foresnic investigations and reports documenting widespread abuse and death in facilities from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), this is solid confirmation of what so many here have been saying for so long: These programs put children at grave risk and use deceptive marketing practices to get money from parents.

Thanks, psy, this needed attention drawn to it as a topic.

Auntie Em
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 10:57:24 PM »
Sorry Auntie Em but I agree wholeheartedly with Guest.

They should have provided resources to other orgs that are not PRO INDUSTRY to give parents a more balanced view of the CONTROVERSY surrounding this industry.

Of course, that would mean admitting there is one (controversy) which no one wants to do for fear the bill will be exposed as the paper tiger it really is.

Make no mistake:  Our kids deserve better from the FTC - after all, they are the TRUE CONSUMER.  Not the parents.  They are the funding source.

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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 01:09:28 AM »
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Hi, Guest,

The topic of ASTART vs. CAFETY vs. ISAC, etc. has been discussed at great length elsewhere on fornits, and if you want to explore further, I would suggesting reading and posting there. I think you will find it informative and have others who want to discuss with you. (Psy, sorry to bug, but maybe you know where to look for the links to those CAFETY discussions?)

I'm glad to see that the FTC is taking action of any kind to raise warnings about the many unsafe practices in programs. Together with the foresnic investigations and reports documenting widespread abuse and death in facilities from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), this is solid confirmation of what so many here have been saying for so long: These programs put children at grave risk and use deceptive marketing practices to get money from parents.

Thanks, psy, this needed attention drawn to it as a topic.

Auntie Em

Psy, please put back up the thread about CAFETY, which includes a discussion about Zen referring to Sheppard Pratt

Also, put back up the threads where Zen contradicts his lies about "outing" CCMGIRL. People who come to this forum should be forewarned that Zen will "out" them(if he develops a weird, sexually-charged animosity) and  will push them into various programs that he may or may not receive compensation from.

thanks
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 10:09:09 AM »
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Quote from: "AuntieEm2"
Hi, Guest,

The topic of ASTART vs. CAFETY vs. ISAC, etc. has been discussed at great length elsewhere on fornits, and if you want to explore further, I would suggesting reading and posting there. I think you will find it informative and have others who want to discuss with you. (Psy, sorry to bug, but maybe you know where to look for the links to those CAFETY discussions?)

I'm glad to see that the FTC is taking action of any kind to raise warnings about the many unsafe practices in programs. Together with the foresnic investigations and reports documenting widespread abuse and death in facilities from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), this is solid confirmation of what so many here have been saying for so long: These programs put children at grave risk and use deceptive marketing practices to get money from parents.

Thanks, psy, this needed attention drawn to it as a topic.

Auntie Em

Psy, please put back up the thread about CAFETY, which includes a discussion about Zen referring to Sheppard Pratt

Also, put back up the threads where Zen contradicts his lies about "outing" CCMGIRL. People who come to this forum should be forewarned that Zen will "out" them(if he develops a weird, sexually-charged animosity) and  will push them into various programs that he may or may not receive compensation from.

thanks

Go fuck yourself, who.  Thanks
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 03:41:28 PM »
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Quote from: "killsurvivorabusers"
Quote from: "AuntieEm2"
Hi, Guest,

The topic of ASTART vs. CAFETY vs. ISAC, etc. has been discussed at great length elsewhere on fornits, and if you want to explore further, I would suggesting reading and posting there. I think you will find it informative and have others who want to discuss with you. (Psy, sorry to bug, but maybe you know where to look for the links to those CAFETY discussions?)

I'm glad to see that the FTC is taking action of any kind to raise warnings about the many unsafe practices in programs. Together with the foresnic investigations and reports documenting widespread abuse and death in facilities from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), this is solid confirmation of what so many here have been saying for so long: These programs put children at grave risk and use deceptive marketing practices to get money from parents.

Thanks, psy, this needed attention drawn to it as a topic.

Auntie Em

Psy, please put back up the thread about CAFETY, which includes a discussion about Zen referring to Sheppard Pratt

Also, put back up the threads where Zen contradicts his lies about "outing" CCMGIRL. People who come to this forum should be forewarned that Zen will "out" them(if he develops a weird, sexually-charged animosity) and  will push them into various programs that he may or may not receive compensation from.

thanks

Go fuck yourself, who.  Thanks

Not who. But while we’re making assumptions of anon’s identities, by the way you speak to a teen survivor, “hello, Zen.” Zen "outed" a survivor to punish her, and, seemingly, referred to a facility. He should not preside here in any form. At least, people should be made aware of his history. The "evidence" shouldn't simply be deleted. I don't have a problem with psy, ginger, this forum, and am against all torture and imprisonment without due process, though I know you'll continue to imply otherwise, without basis.


Anyway, Psy, you wrote if one requested a deleted thread be put back up, you’d do it.

Please resurrect the “Zen Agent outs CCMGIRL,” “did you like the old or new fornits better,” and the “CAFETY” threads, when you have the time.   

Thank you
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 04:29:11 PM »
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Anyway, Psy, you wrote if one requested a deleted thread be put back up, you’d do it.

you got a source for that?

To those who are wondering what happened read here. Or there is a thread about it here.
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 04:56:48 PM »
Quote from: "ell"
Quote from: "HHHH"
Quote from: "killsurvivorabusers"
Quote from: "AuntieEm2"
Hi, Guest,

The topic of ASTART vs. CAFETY vs. ISAC, etc. has been discussed at great length elsewhere on fornits, and if you want to explore further, I would suggesting reading and posting there. I think you will find it informative and have others who want to discuss with you. (Psy, sorry to bug, but maybe you know where to look for the links to those CAFETY discussions?)

I'm glad to see that the FTC is taking action of any kind to raise warnings about the many unsafe practices in programs. Together with the foresnic investigations and reports documenting widespread abuse and death in facilities from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), this is solid confirmation of what so many here have been saying for so long: These programs put children at grave risk and use deceptive marketing practices to get money from parents.

Thanks, psy, this needed attention drawn to it as a topic.

Auntie Em

Psy, please put back up the thread about CAFETY, which includes a discussion about Zen referring to Sheppard Pratt

Also, put back up the threads where Zen contradicts his lies about "outing" CCMGIRL. People who come to this forum should be forewarned that Zen will "out" them(if he develops a weird, sexually-charged animosity) and  will push them into various programs that he may or may not receive compensation from.

thanks

Go fuck yourself, who.  Thanks

Not who. But while we’re making assumptions of anon’s identities, by the way you speak to a teen survivor, “hello, Zen.” Zen "outed" a survivor to punish her, and, seemingly, referred to a facility. He should not preside here in any form. At least, people should be made aware of his history. The "evidence" shouldn't simply be deleted. I don't have a problem with psy, ginger, this forum, and am against all torture and imprisonment without due process, though I know you'll continue to imply otherwise, without basis.


Anyway, Psy, you wrote if one requested a deleted thread be put back up, you’d do it.

Please resurrect the “Zen Agent outs CCMGIRL,” “did you like the old or new fornits better,” and the “CAFETY” threads, when you have the time.   

Thank you


And that wasn't me, but I do seem to be your obsession.  If you were a registered user, your petulant demands might get more consideration.  Keep your personal vendettas to PM's.  Go ahead, PM me.   I guess you can't, though.  Get back to the topic of  RTC's.  Otherwise, bitch like an anon and be treated like an anon.  "Due process"?  Give me a break.  You need a new hobby.

Psy, could we post the PM you sent to CCM, TheWho and myself before the forum went down?  You had pulled some pretty vicious quotes out of the who's PM's to you that might shed a little light on this relentless trolling.
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 06:26:46 PM »
Chillax, Zen; the constant trolls on you have earned you a solid place in the Getting Programmies Pissed Off competition.

Right now it's between you and Ajax over on the AARC board.

Any other dumbshit programmies out there want to tilt the scales?
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 08:57:00 PM »
Wasn’t this offer made by you or antigen? I beleive I read it somewhere and antigen started doing so here:

http://www.fornits.com/index.php?go=aHR ... NDcuNzU%3D

And I though you were implying you were going to “recover the data” here:
Quote from: "psy"

Partyvan is having to recover their data from google cache AS WELL :( 

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R you saying every thread is gone forever?

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  "Due process"?  Give me a break.  You need a new hobby.

Yes, mentioning “due process” would be inappropriate. Upon learning to read, you’ll note I don’t mention “due process.” Vicious quotes? You mean like threatening to post ccm's arrest record if who didn't give you his info, or how she sodomizes her ugly husband? Well, you're certainly an expert on viciousness.


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Chillax, Zen; the constant trolls on you have earned you a solid place in the Getting Programmies Pissed Off competition.

I’m not a programmie. Is whoever wrote YLF is “Che free” because they feel he acted badly a programmie too? No, to you people are only programies when they knock an org member, they feel is abusive, who is your personal (professional?) associate. With your cognitive dissonance maybe you’re the programmie.
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 09:29:57 PM »
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I’m not a programmie. Is whoever wrote YLF is “Che free” because they feel he acted badly a programmie too? No, to you people are only programies when they knock an org member, they feel is abusive, who is your personal (professional?) associate. With your cognitive dissonance maybe you’re the programmie.



No, you're ieiei, and you can pretend to be whoever you want to as long as you hide in the anon troll shadows behind that jumble of vowels.  I say you are a programmie.  Prove otherwise or you get no "due process".  You're a joke.  In all likelihood you're Lon Woodbury...or Sue Scheff..,  No, you're not a programmie...and no, you would never lie, whoever the hell you are.  Loser.
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Re: FTC Issues Warning Signs on programs
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 09:38:45 PM »
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Quote from: "ieiei"

I’m not a programmie. Is whoever wrote YLF is “Che free” because they feel he acted badly a programmie too? No, to you people are only programies when they knock an org member, they feel is abusive, who is your personal (professional?) associate. With your cognitive dissonance maybe you’re the programmie.



No, you're ieiei, and you can pretend to be whoever you want to as long as you hide in the anon troll shadows behind that jumble of vowels.  I say you are a programmie.  Prove otherwise or you get no "due process".  You're a joke.  In all likelihood you're Lon Woodbury...or Sue Scheff..,  No, you're not a programmie...and no, you would never lie, whoever the hell you are.  Loser.

Quoted to preserve the amusing sheer stupidity.
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