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Offline Deborah

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« on: May 26, 2006, 01:25:00 PM »
Iraq Veteran Speaks Out On War Crimes
20 min 33 sec
Testimony from Jessie Macbeth, former Army Ranger
 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2549547050
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2006, 02:43:00 PM »
Its like a blood bath version of the programs, isn't it? Did you catch the name of the production company? Pepper-spray productions. I intend to send this link to every young man or woman on my address list.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2006, 02:48:00 PM »
Yes, I did and forgot to mention it!!
I'm sending it to all my contacts as well.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2006, 02:48:00 PM »
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On 2006-05-26 10:25:00, Deborah wrote:

"Iraq Veteran Speaks Out On War Crimes

20 min 33 sec

Testimony from Jessie Macbeth, former Army Ranger

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2549547050"

Ahh, check out this link,
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005245.htm
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2006, 02:55:00 PM »
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On 2006-05-26 11:48:00, Deborah wrote:

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Yes, I did and forgot to mention it!!

I'm sending it to all my contacts as well."

I think you should check out the link, He is a fraud
no service record see the other post.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2006, 03:00:00 PM »
Could be a hoax.
http://www.ivaw.net/index.php?id=218

Came from a source who is usually diligent about checking her sources. Sent her the two links, will see if she responds.
Even if it is a hoax, our occupation of Iraq is not justified and innocent civilians are dying.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2006, 03:31:00 PM »
I don't know about anyone else, but I remember watching the bombs go off at the start of this war and thinking about the people that live there. Those were people that were being blown up, for no reason at all. America is going to probably continue killing people until a REAL enemy comes along (ie china??) and we get our ass handed to us.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2006, 05:53:00 PM »
So far, the argument seems to be he isn't genuine b/c he isn't wearing his uniform correctly, or with the proper insignia; and that Fort Brag has  no record of a solder with his name. As I understood his testimony, he is no longer in active service; and so he can dress and wear his facial hair as he pleases. I know war vets who break uniform regulations in many ways. I don't think that's much of an argument.
Fort Brag not having any record of him seems more serious; but if they are lying, or have an incompetent checking records, it wouldn't be surprising.  As for IVAW disclaiming him, all they said was he wasn't a spokesman for them, and they had no part in the interview. I feel he is telling the truth, as it was for him. If he is discredited I won't be surprised, but it won't change my mind.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2006, 11:27:00 AM »
Pentagon sources: Civilians likely killed without provocation
Photos from scene said to be 'inconsistent' with Marine account

Friday, May 26, 2006; Posted: 9:04 p.m. EDT (01:04 GMT)

investigation supports allegations that U.S. Marines in November killed 24 innocent Iraqi civilians without being provoked, senior Pentagon sources said Friday.
Charges, including murder, could soon be filed against Marines allegedly involved, the sources said.

The killings reportedly occurred while troops from the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines were searching for insurgents who planted a roadside bomb that killed a member of the unit.

The Marines originally had reported that 15 civilians were killed by a roadside bomb in Haditha, a city along the Euphrates River in western Iraq. The Marines later suggested the civilians may have been caught in a firefight.

However, photographs being reviewed by investigators "are inconsistent with how the Marines claim the Iraqis died," according to a military source familiar with the investigation. (Watch the Pentagon investigate civilian deaths -- 2:25)

An Iraqi human rights group, Hammurabi Human Rights Association, caught the scene on video, which was obtained by Time magazine. A criminal investigation ensued. Time Warner is the parent company of Time magazine and CNN.

Last week, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pennsylvania, a decorated retired Marine colonel who is opposed to the war in Iraq, said the investigation of the Haditha deaths would show that the civilian toll was higher than 15 and that the Marines killed them "in cold blood." He said he received his information from U.S. commanders.

"There was no firefight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood," Murtha said. "They actually went into the houses and killed women and children."

The Marine battalion commander and two company commanders have been relieved of their commands and reassigned to staff posts at Camp Pendleton, California.

Separate accusations surfaced earlier this month that Marines from the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment killed a civilian near Hamandiya, west of Baghdad, on April 26.

Several Marines from the regiment were sent back to the United States, and Maj. Gen. Richard Zilmer, commander of 1st Marines Expeditionary Force, asked that the Naval Criminal Investigative Service look into allegations made by Iraqis to Marine commanders at a May 1 meeting.

Sen. John Warner, R-Virginia, said Thursday that he would rank both incidents as "very, very serious allegations." There is no timeline set for either investigation, but he expects both to be completed quickly, said Warner, who chairs the Senate Armed Forces Committee.

The two incidents prompted Gen. Michael Hagee, commandant of the Marine Corps, to fly to Iraq on Thursday and speak to Marines about the use of force in a speech titled "On Marine Virtue."

"We do not employ force just for the sake of employing force. We use lethal force only when justified, proportional and, most importantly, lawful," Hagee said, according to a copy of his speech released by the Marine Corps. "This is the American way of war. We must regulate force and violence, we only damage property that must be damaged and we protect the non-combatants we find on the battlefield."
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2006, 10:40:00 AM »
Interesting Fark thread about this guy.
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