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Finaly, it took someone from another program (I think) to get it.
At the end of every meeting, every night, the rap leader would put forth the question
Why do we sing jingle bells? And the place would go crazy with people snapping their fingers, jumping out of their seats,
and begging to yell the following,
"CAUSE EVERY DAY WE'RE STRAIGHT, IT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS!!!
i still hate christmas. And even now when I hear that song during the hollidays, I still want to puke.
May Art barker die in a pile of his own shit. (or somebody elses)

Yeah right. Barker must have been a real nice guy by then.
A kinder gentler seed. No wonder you stayed 5 years by choice.
Sounds like you had nowhere to go.
Lucky bastard.
And by the way, the jingle bells thing came from Barker himself.
He let you watch his house, but never shared that with you?
Your story dosen't jive.

Are there any other ex seed kids out there?

Johnny G wrote

We sang it under duress, as an act of conformity, part of a ritual
reasons were stated, but the real reason was simply to get a aroup of people to simultaneously engage in a mindless activity on command
it was a component of conditioning

First you said you knew nothing about jingle bells. Now it only "under duress"?

Johnny g wrote

I spent my time in the truckers shed, or fixing stuff around the building, at barkers house, fixing cars, his boat etc.
Didn't spend a whole lot of time in the group after year 1. was never thought of or referred to as staff;


They left you alone a Barkers house? Fixing his car. And you never cut his brake lines? Please tell me you at least shit on his toothbrush. How much duress were you under to be Barkers houseboy?

Johnny G wrote

Lived in a house with 10 people, like I said, cheap!
Fairly institutional, with no newcomers, things were pretty open, got pretty good at chess, had a decent job, constant sense that it could all go away at any moment;

It really sounds liked it there. Again where's the duress?

Johnny G wrote

At the outset I thought that the folks doing my intake had it together more than I did and they had 5 years in so I decided I could go that long.

So you had admiration for those criminals from day 1?

BTW - you seem pretty high strung for such a laid back avatar,

And your answers have all the substance of yours

These are words only seedling woud know and nobody does?
Antigen or Stack, please help this guy out.

Somebody please help out Johnny G.

Every seedling should know,

WHY DO WE SING GODDAMN JINGLE BELLS?

Stack kkknows

Maybe Antigen

WTF?!!!

Dude you must have been staff!
Why don't you tell us why we sing jingle bells?

by Johnny G » 20 May 2010, 20:36

I'm the same, came to see who might be around from my days ('78 - 83 cleveland to Ft. Lauderdale sr84)

I'd really like to know how you stayed in the seed for 5 years.Even the court ordered kids could make oldtimer after 6 months. Were you staff, or did you get started over 100 times. How old were you when you left? Did you leave on you own or did the seed close down? 5years.DAMN!

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