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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Valley View School Abuse
« on: May 26, 2011, 04:46:07 PM »
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The person who posted such an unfounded attack on Dr. Spiva should be ashamed. Valley View, under Dr. Spiva's leadership and guidance has helped countless young men find their way in a world that seemed totally against them. Is the program tough? Yes. Does it ask a lot of the boys?Yes. Does it teach them tolerance, resposibility, respect for themselves and others? Yes And how to cope in the world? Yes.
I personally know several young men who probably would not be in this world today if not for their experience at VVS and who are doing very well in their lives. To insult the program and especially Dr. Spiva with such despicable accusations can only be the actions of a malicious person who failed to learn the valuable lessons avaliable to them while at VVS. Dr. Spiva you have my total support.
A parent of a successful VVS graduate.

The program is tough. It did ask a lot of us. It also taught us that "faggot" is a good word, that if you do something wrong and you'll get screamed at and thrown around. Like I mentioned above, pretty much every student I went to school with from VVS ended up "leaving" under negative circumstances.

Yeah, I sure failed to learn lessons. Six years later, with REAL therapy, I'm a straight A student who is a year and a half from graduating. You were lucky that your son was so resilient or knew how to play the game going in.
So yeah, it can ONLY be the actions of a malicious failure. Thanks for painting everyone who disagrees with you that way.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Valley View School Abuse
« on: May 26, 2011, 04:41:09 PM »
Was I a problem child? Yes. Was VVS good for me? NO.

I attended VVS and I have very negative things to say about it. The night staff have the permission to physically "detain" kids and while they don't use it often, some were out of line. While they eventually left, it was pretty horrible. The day staff (teachers) were a lot nicer and more professional, and I actually learned things from them. However, what happened after VVS was a disaster for me.

I ended up essentially "being asked to leave" my next school (Dunn) and I was completely unprepared for a real world environment. I ended up by accident in a small private school for highschool which was a godsend (they were all about emotional wellbeing). If it wasn't for that school, I doubt I'd be where I was today. I ended up failing my first three semesters at college and dealing with crippling depression for the next year and a half. I'm now 23 and doing extremely well, but only because I've moved out and have been attending REAL therapy.

Now, you could say "well throwaway, you may have been unique, more of a 'failure' then the other students". Well, the school I attended after Valley View was Dunn. There were 4 other students from VVS there. Two of them were expelled, one "chose not to return'' in the middle of the year, and the last was a known troublemaker.

When I left VVS, they were courting younger students in an attempt to no longer deal with the more troubled students of the past. This seems like a huge goddamn mistake as the staff didn't get any easier. Also, when I left, phil spiva was in the process of being replaced by rick bulgar, and scott longvall can burn in hell.

tldr, you send your kids to VVS, they WILL receive physical and emotional abuse, they WILL be forced to work in a work program, and there's a good chance they'll be unprepared for the outside world

(i attended two years from 2002-2004)

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