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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Pathway's New Site
« on: October 22, 2003, 12:54:00 AM »
wow, i just took a quick look at the new pathway website. i went directly to the comments by the parents and the "current" clients. i cant speak about the parent one's since i dont really remember their first names, but the client's comments i think is a riot!!! they are all former clients, some are even pulls, and more than half of them are not clean and sober by pathways terms.and then the rest of them hate pathway and think what they do is bullshit.  i read kathy's letter back to you Ed, and i agree with you. my counsilor in Indy didnt have a masters degree or a certification to be a drug counsilor. she was still working on obtaining while she was "theriputically" treating me for my problems that she had no fucking idea what she was talking about.

the indykid,
chris

It has ever been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues

--Abraham Lincoln


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Changes at Pathway?
« on: July 21, 2003, 03:53:00 PM »
"My guess would be that the many graduates of Pathway (I wouldn't know about Straight) who are healthy and clean are spending their time enjoying the sober life they have made for themselves, and are not wasting their time on a website talking about the time they spent in a treatment center. I know I would be in the community 12th stepping and taking in every moment that I have to live today, free of drugs and alochol."

Ok!!! you got me...i graduated that place, am still clean or sober or whatever you want to call it, going to meetings, whatever you consider 12th stepping chances are im doing it (my opinion is you dont know what the fuck 12th stepping is in the first place from the way you used the terminology of it), oohhhh and i have a sponser, i sponsor people too and shit what else...i guess i am an overall success. YET...... i still manage to get on this site and "waste" my time by sharing my anger at pathway for the way the treated me. listen,whoever you are, we all have our feelings on what we went through dont try to tell us that we dont have valid feelings and we are "wasting" our time.

sincerely,
the indykid chris

Everything that people say to you is personal. Whether it is constructive criticism or not will determine whether it cam from and asshole or not.

----Bill Warbis


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Open Meeting
« on: July 21, 2003, 03:31:00 PM »
"Let's remember the national average for successful treatment of substance abuse is less than 10%. PFC's rate is far above that."


i am a former graduate of pathway family center and of course have heard of the wonderful things and statistics that pathway has, while i was in there of course. i once read that pathway had a seventy something success rate among graduates in the first 3-5 years upon release. first of all i have no fucken clue where they get their stats from to post them as if they did a real poll on them. but the thing is with all these statistics being thrown around the plain fact is the true results that are happening...if we were to go by "pathways" rule of thumb for what "success" is, these stats would be tossed out immediately. now i have no problem with people's personal decisions and what they choose to do with their life, let me make that clear. of all the people that i know of that have graduated that place...only a grand total of 6 have stayed "clean" up to that 3-5 year mark. and the ones who dont make it up to that mark dont even pass the 1 year success mark that pathway might say is a success. my personal belief is that pathway is NOT far above that 10% success rate and they have a very unfair system to judge the lives of former clients "success". but hell, what would i know chances are i would be thrown into that unhealthy, unsuccessful category since i never finished their aftercare program.

chris, the indykid

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0140440607/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'> Tacitus, Roman senator and historian (A.D. c.56- c.115)


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / My Story
« on: June 05, 2003, 03:15:00 AM »
"DEAR CD,

I WANT TO SAY HOW GLAD I AM TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE FOUND SOME OF THESE GREAT INSIGHTS ABOUT YOURSELVE. I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I TO AM A GRADUATE OF PATHWAY FAMILY CENTER. I WAS VERY MUCH IN THOSE SAME SHOES I FELT HOPELESS REGARDING THE THE PROBLEMS OF MY LIFE. I KNOW NOW THAT THE SUPPORT THAT I ALWAYS SOUGHT IS THERE OR A PHONE CALL AWAY. WITH OUR DISEASE CUNNING AND POWERFUL WE NEED NEVER FALL BACK TO OUR ACTIVE ADDICTION. WE LIKE OTHERS MAY DIE AND BE JUST ANOTHER NUMBER IN THAT LIST. STAY CLEAN GO TO MEETINGS AND OUR DREAMS WILL COME TRUE."


PROUD GRADUATE"

Anyone (not dissin' anyone who doesnt go to meetings, it just means you have decided its not for you) in their right fucken mind who is in recovery knows that it has nothing to do with rehab. it may have been a good start to get clean, but i went to rehab and paid them 30 to 50 grand at pathway just to find out that i can go to 12 step meetings and get much more than they will ever give me for FREE!!!  so i dont get how you could be in such a supportive stance on a fucked up place like that esspecially if you have been through that hell hole

chris

"The Libertarian Party is a coalition of those who hold dear the economic freedoms championed by conservatives, yet abandoned by Republicans, and the civil freedoms championed by liberals, yet abandoned by Democrats."


--Rick Root



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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Story
« on: June 05, 2003, 03:08:00 AM »
this is horseshit! just because someone didnt finish the pathway program doesnt mean they dont have balls. it has nothing to do with it. our past does not dictate who we are today, including our choices such as not finishing pathway, it is what we choose to do today that dictates the person we are defind as. and this is coming from someone who graduated that fucken place.

He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
--Albert Einstein


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / desparate
« on: June 05, 2003, 02:42:00 AM »
"I wonder how much of the talk here about Pathway is a proven fact (and not from someone who was in the program and did'nt complete it.)"

first of all i just want to say that no matter what this parent decides to do i hope that they get their child help regardless if for some fucked up reason it is pathway...which i also do believe that they are not qualified to help certain individuals with particular problems. there are several other places that will help this child, ultimately and unfortunately it is up to the child wheather he stops or not. ok now on to what i want to say. fuck you whoever wrote that because i did complete that fucken program and i ademately agree with a vast majoraty of what these people say about pathway. so it is not just the people not completing the program saying this shit.  

The most important bill in our whole code is that for the diffusion of
knowledge among the people. No other sure foundation can be devised, for the preservation of freedom and happiness.

--Thomas Jefferson


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / pathways new format
« on: June 05, 2003, 01:24:00 AM »
"I've been in Pathway for awhile now. I don't consider myself being in a cult or being a mind rapist or a child abuser. I'am just a parent who love's his child."

i must say that you are a parent and do not know what the fuck you are talking about in the sense of what goes on in pathway. why? because all of us have actually been in pathway and had to endure the 24/7 hell for, most of us give or take a few months, 18 months. we know what goes on in there. and dont think that we are a bunch of kids who say fuck pathway because we are back to doing drugs and some of the same other stuff. i went throught that program, graduated and have not EVER relapsed using drugs and go to 12step meetings regularly, i have successfully become a productive member of society without pathway after they outcasted me from their aftercare program. dont be ignorant please.

Innocence implies the ability to restrain from the initiation of aggression, and to question those who don't.
http://www.MisesRomania.org' target='_new'>Sorin Cucerai


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / For ex-clients: What type of abuse goes on at Pathway?
« on: June 05, 2003, 12:59:00 AM »
i just wanna say to all the pathway simpathizers...cut the shit! you fucken idiots. how can you deny that their are the most unethical practices going on in that hell hole. 99% of the kids that come out of that place, graduated or not know that pathway was fucked up and think them to be idiots. you are sick to try to defend this unhealthy place. mr. shadel(however you spell it) if you are posting shit on here, you ought to stop trying to defend your little sanctuary of control and sickness. actually do post stuff because i think its funny to try and hear you say your pompously ignorant remarks on the greatness of pathway. and none of you will know the people i'm about to list off since i graduated from the indy pathway. but i wanna give a shout out to all of these fuckers who contributed to my hell. fuck you alice mcdermott, jennie o'conner, mr. franz, tim youngblood, mary ann, the client chad. i trusted you all but you betrayed me, you assholes. by the way my name is chris, i had a brother that came in with me to pathway the same day up in michigan and then trasfered to the indy one once it opened up.  :smile: fuck you, you stupid fuckers you. P.S. look what pathway did to me the limit my vocabulary to swear words, yuo fucked me up...actually i know i cant blame you for that or any decicions i make now but i can still say fuck you, so fuck you.

I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole

--Malcolm X


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / pathway. a gateway to hell, heaven or purgatory?
« on: June 05, 2003, 12:20:00 AM »
i say a little bit of salvation mostly hell and its hell its hell even in purgatory while in there. i say fuck pathway i have so much rage and anger at that place. it truely tramatized me in so many ways...and i even graduated that fucken place. you pathway fucks need to get your shit straight and quit fucking up kids lives. you helped turned me into a fucking zombie and told me all sorts of bullshit that warped my fragile little mind. now, thanks all to a 12 step fellowship that i attend i am a bit more sane and clear minded. pathway does a lot of fucked up shit that is so wrong in so many ways...such as illegal activites that are fucken inappropriate to a recovering environment. you never feel safe in that place and constantly worry about being pounced on for the stupidest shit that makes no difference in life. the rules are all fucked up and bullshit you care about he kids. i know its about control for the staff memembers and definately about money. i just wanna give the big fuck you pathway, so FUCK YOU!!!

No synonym for God is so perfect as Beauty. Whether as seen carving the lines of the mountains with glaciers, or gathering matter into stars, or planning the movements of water, or gardening - still all is Beauty!
-- John Muir


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / AAAHHHHHHHH!!!
« on: June 05, 2003, 12:07:00 AM »
ok, i doubt that you will see this whoever wrote this post since its three months later that you posted yours. i am a graduate of pathway but i am from indiana, indianapolis and i was the first graduate of the indianapolis pathway. i must start out with saying that i am truely grateful for three things that pathway did for me. 1. that they got me clean in the beginning 2. they helped me get aware of a lot of issues that i had and 3. that they introduced me to a 12step fellowship that has TRUELY saved my life and not pathway that takes all the credit for doing so. but besides that, fuck pathway. they fucked me over so much that it stills hurts at a deep level. i guess that ill address the the post that i am replying to first before i go any further. i know all the indy peerstaff that is present and in the past that did not stay with them. the first two peerstaff members were not graduates of the program and they were in recovery. they both dropped out of their positions as peerstaff because of conflict with the facilities rules and other things. then they got three new ones fours ones after i had graduated that finished this program after me. the first one is the most fucked up bitch i have ever met in my life. i would safely say that she is borderline psycho. she is very unhealthy and does everything opposite to what pathway demands that you do in order to follow their perfect recovery plan. she doesnt go to meetings, doesnt have a sponsor, and the most fucked up thing is that she went through pathway but never graduated the place. wanna know why she works their? its because her precious mommy is the ceo director of pathway both indy and michigan. i feel it inappropriate to tell more detailed info about her life but that she is fucked up...and a bitch to boot. then the other peer staff are fucked up too. they know nothing about recovery. they were all hired right after they graduated the place. that particular job is based on control. they know nothing of living life of recovery. those fuckers kicked me out of their aftercare program for stupid shit and then shunned me and label me "unhealthy". the funny thing is that i am one of the very few kids out of that place that has stayed clean and made something out of myself. they told me that i was going to relapse and ruin my family. my mom loves me and i graduated high school and am going on to college. fuck you pathway. you guys put me through hell and i gave my all and trust to you guys but in return you offered me shame and wouldnt be there for me when i needed your comfort that you so adematly insisted would give to me no matter what. yea that didnt happen you fucken assholes. i could go on and on about this place and the fucked up shit they pulled on me. so thanks for the three things, but fuck you for everything else. i proved you wrong and have made something of myself you fuckers.
thanks to my buddy EMSR for telling me about this place.

Time's fun when you're having flies.
--Kermit the Frog


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