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Ginger,

I agree that many know or have some idea, I'm trying to convince these idiots that it shouldn't be happening.  Same as attempting to convince a lawyer to take a case, they too are ignorant as to the extent of abuse in these "insitutions".

This is the hump in the road...so to speak!  Eventually, someone has to listen, or at least here me out!  Most politicians that I have personally spoken with come off with the "buyer beware" slogan.  Hell, even the lady with coffee in her lap got more than that from her issues?

Just my POV.

Regards,

Lee

Just curious & have been recently researching homeopathy medical practices;

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Regards,

Lee

Ginger,

In my opinion...if it counts?  I've never seen, heard or witnessed any of the items you mentioned in your last post.

Nor was anyone ever kicked out of an "inner circle".  What we had was a group of parents that exchanged information between households pertaining to everything under the sun.  It just so happened that all of us had previously had children who attended a behavior modifications program.

I personally have a tape of a one hour conversation that I had with Dace Goulding at Casa BY The Sea pertaining to my son, my family & me.  I've never been asked or needed to produce it as evidence, nor will I until WE go to court.

I've personally never heard anything about any garbage cans?  New one on me...but with their current records & accusations against them...it wouldn't surprise me.

I've heard of the photos of cages...and would tend to believe that they exist since I know the individual that has them.  Never met them, but spoke many hours on my PC with.  That's their choice what they do with their possessions & I have no say in the matter!  That's it, the end...some people read MORE into situations than there really is.

As for the other individual that you mentioned...me personally...again my opinion...they were on a divorce adventure...not a child saving mission.  Again...my personal opinion...

I myself have just been privy to other information that was produced in the Utah federal court.  It didn't surprise me...I wasn't involved in the law suit nor a witness in the end.

Deborah;

Carey's contribution...was that she cashed a check from the "program" to turn over her bank owned PC to provide the plaintiff with information to support their case against people who disagree with the "programs" teachings of warehousing children.  She was a pawn in the "program's" attempt to silence the many parents who dispute what has happened to their children or grand-children.

Just my opinion?for what it?s worth.

Regards,

Lee

In this case...and my opinion...I guess you could say I support freedom of speech when it's directed towards a corporation or business that tries to hide or silence its victims.  YES!

On the hypocrite side;

As long as it's the truth... I don't have a problem with someone speaking their mind.  I don't think it should harm individuals...however, in my favor...if I'm trying to convey a point who the hell cares!  Although, this process would probably warrant a law suit against ME personally.

My biggest issue would be the truth...of the matter!

This trial just proves...now this is my opinion...that someone may go out and spread the truth about someone harming them in some form or fashion.  Now who gets to decide harm?...I guess my son will find out whenever his legal experts get through with wwasps and their settlement offer?  I've yet to see it...been informed that it was on the way.

Would I ever sell out just to get MY money back...no, it's the principle & my hard head that get in the way.

Regards,

Lee

Yes, Ginger...It is my understanding that a NOT guilty verdict was handed down on ALL accounts against the accused just minutes ago!!!  Grant it, this is second hand news...even if it is from five different people who were in the court room.

I didn't have the pleasure to see it in person...some of us have to work for a living!  No what I mean?

This should open the door for many more...just proving wwasps is NOT untouchable!!!

Regards,

Lee

Carey,

You are heading for the deep end again.  That's why I quit conversing with you earlier!!!

Nuts...NOT!  Fighting her battle...NOT!  She has attorneys for this case, she doesn't need me for anything involving "w vs. p?.  Either that or she hasn?t asked me to do anything.   That is just your assumptions of this whole case.  You have no facts to back up any of your allegations you continue to accuse me of.

YOU know I'm tied up in her legal battle!!!  What a farce, that sure is a new one on me...I couldn't even tell you what her lawsuit is entirely about.  I don't even care what her suit is about.  I'll explain this once again...I have a beef with an organization, not you, not anyone else.  How simple can that be NOT to understand?  However, I have in my quest run across many of the individuals of which some you don?t get along with.  So be it...get over it...

I have an opinion just like you on all of these issues, but I don't force feed them to anyone.  Just like your idol states..."agree to disagree"...move on.

I believe if you'll look back in your archives of emails...remember the ones you sold to wwasp's, I probably informed you of my family's dealings with wwasp & that's about it.    I have a quest of my own to contend with.  When I'm ready for the public to know about it...believe me...you'll be the first to know.  Along with everyone else on this forum.

FYI;   I found your deposition info. via common carrier at my office door one morning.  It appeared to be some form of a mailing list?it may have been wwasp, or Sue, or either of the attorney's, not sure since it has been awhile.

I hope all of this info. Assists you in your quest.  Best regards & kindest wishes,

Lee

Sorry, anon. other than what's posted out on the net, I am privy to the same info you have.

Regards,

Lee

Ginger,

With the two most honest people in question here, this shouldn't take to long to post their anon responses?  Unless...we are editing them or to chicken shit to post them?  Which is it, oh master of this public web forum?

Kindest Regards,

Lee