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The Troubled Teen Industry / www.breggin.com
« on: September 14, 2006, 07:36:39 AM »
http://http://www.breggin.com



Psychiatric Drug Facts
 Peter R. Breggin, M.D.

What your doctor may not know about:
 How psychiatric drugs really work
Adverse drug effects on the brain and mind
 The role of the FDA
 Drug company practices
 Recent medical and legal developments
 Electroshock and psychosurgery

Peter R. Breggin, M.D. began in the full time private practice of psychiatry in 1968.  Dr. Breggin has been informing the professions, media and the public about the potential dangers of drugs, electroshock, psychosurgery, involuntary treatment, and the biological theories of psychiatry for over three decades. Since 1964 Dr. Breggin has been publishing peer-reviewed articles and medical books in his subspecialty of clinical psychopharmacology. He is the author of dozens of scientific articles and nineteen professional books, many dealing with psychiatric medication, the FDA and drug approval process, the evaluation of clinical trials, and standards of care in psychiatry and related fields.  
      In 1972 he founded The International Center for the Study of Psychiatry and Psychology (ICSPP) as a nonprofit research and educational network.  The Center is concerned with the impact of mental health theory and practices upon individual well-being, personal freedom, and family and community values.  He also founded the peer-review journal, Ethical Human Sciences and Services.  In 2002, Dr. Breggin and his wife Ginger selected new and younger professionals to take over leadership of the journal and ICSPP (see ICSPP.org).
      For thirty years Dr. Breggin has served as a medical expert in many civil and criminal suits including individual malpractice cases andproduct liability suits against the manufacturers of psychiatric drugs.  His work provided the scientific basis for the original combined Prozac suits, for the more recent Ritalin class action suits, and for label changes in many psychiatric drugs.  
      Dr. Breggin's background includes Harvard College, Case Western Reserve Medical School, a teaching fellowship at Harvard Medical School, a two-year staff appointment to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), and a faculty appointment to the Johns Hopkins University Department of Counseling.

http://http://www.breggin.com

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The Drugging of our Children
« on: September 14, 2006, 07:28:52 AM »
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Independence, evaluation, and sound science.. is that really so much to ask?


   Sound science you ask???

   Whenever sound scientific principles are applied to the ADHD issue it becomes immediatly clear the this alledged disease doesn't meet even the most basic requirement that every real disease does, so what your are asking for again..

   
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Independence, evaluation, and sound science.. is that really so much to ask?


   Is what you are constantly arguing against when that very issue of "sound science" enters this debate  though you did sidestep this dose of "sound science"..

 
According to these experts, Ritalin is more powerful that Cocaine..

http://http://www.slate.com/id/2076413/

Dr. Peter Breggin on Ritalin

http://http://www.breggin.com/congress.html

Table I summarizes many of the most salient adverse effects of all the commonly used stimulant drugs. It is important to note that the Drug Enforcement Administration, and all other drug enforcement agencies worldwide, classify methylphenidate (Ritalin) and amphetamine (Dexedrine and Adderall) in the same Schedule II category as methamphetamine, cocaine, and the most potent opiates and barbiturates. Schedule II includes only those drugs with the very highest potential for addiction and abuse.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The Drugging of our Children
« on: September 13, 2006, 02:39:29 PM »
Look MGDP, you're the one who is obviously disturbed and needs to be helped. How the helpless and innocent victims who speak out about the harm done to them in that video can fail to move anyone is beyond comprehension. Your rants, accusation and slander are those of someone with no real caring & compassion in their heart at all. One part of the video speaks of 65 set of parents who lost children for being medicated (that's 65 dead children btw who should still be living..) and all you can do is attack the folks who bring awareness about these issues to those who need know about them..

   Why should that be a problem for you???

   Explain yourself..

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The Drugging of our Children
« on: September 13, 2006, 12:34:30 AM »
Gary Null is a fine doctor and to call him a swindler is pure nonsense..

   And what do you call Michael Moore? Another fraud is he? What does he have to do with Scientology..

   Sorry, most of the folks apposed to the abused of psychiatry have nothing to do with Scientology. Why don't you address the charges they are making instead of assaulting their character like you've done to Gary Null?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The Drugging of our Children
« on: September 13, 2006, 12:27:21 AM »
Growing up we had a form of Kindegarten, it started for children at 5 years of age and the next year we entered school..

   What we also has was recesses, at least twice a day besides lunch at that's when we ran off all the extra energy. And later on came organised sports, that worked especially well for kids with too much energy.

  And in the classroom our ADD-ADHD symtoms were kept in check by a big paddle that hung from the wall, the one I remember best was called "The Board Of Education" and we all knew exactly what it was there for..

   This was the day of when medicating children meant an occasional aspirin at times from the school nurse, this was long before Big Pharma had invaded the schools..

   There was a special education class for slow learners but they could all read and usually went onto some type of vocational training, many of them did very well in life later on..

   No..., in my school not one child was stigmitized with some psychiatric disorder.., there was really nothing at all wrong with any of them. They respected their parents and they respected authority. It was a far different and better world back then, and that's only going back about 40 years.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The Drugging of our Children
« on: September 13, 2006, 12:16:11 AM »
Sorry but you couldn't be more wrong..

   Don't like what Garl Knull and Michael Moore have to say now do you?

   That's too bad but this is still a free country..

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Does anyone actually believe this nonsense?
« on: September 13, 2006, 12:01:22 AM »
If that's true the author should press charges then.. If he hasn't done so it's probably because he's being a little less than honest..

   And speaking of honesty.., I've always felt that if critics held the psychiatric industry to the same standards they demand for Scientology, there would be no Scientology as we know it today..

   But those who are so critical of Scientology reserve their critism for them alone while always turing a blind eye to the fraud and abuses of psychiatry..

   Something wrong with that and it make the data contained in that link you posted just a little suspect IMO..

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Does anyone actually believe this nonsense?
« on: September 12, 2006, 11:51:59 PM »
I think "you need" to substantiate that claim..

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Does anyone actually believe this nonsense?
« on: September 12, 2006, 11:37:01 PM »
Tom's a target because he has a real heart and is not afraid to do what's right unlike most of the complete flakes in Hollywood. The Oprah thing was nothing at all, just a display of happiness and nothing more.

  And he never attacked Brooke Shields either. He merely pointed out that she was unaware of all the facts about so-called post-pardern depression and the drugs often used to treat it which is the right thing to do. Brooke may be a well-meaning lady but she is no expert on anti-depressant medication and should not be endorcing it's use.

   And as far as he questioning Matt Lauer for also endorcing anti-depressants, an issue Mr. Lauer knows nothing about.., Tom was also acting responsibly by taking issue for that.

   So Tom a target for being a decent guy and just standing up for the truth.., that used to be an American ideal I seem to recall once upon a time..

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The Troubled Teen Industry / 'Prescription For Disaster"
« on: September 12, 2006, 11:06:28 PM »
By Dr Gary Null..

http://http://www.GaryNull.com

Must watch..

http://mms://wm.kinodigital.na-central.speedera.net/wm.kinodigital.na-central/garynull/trailers/prescription_for_TR.wmv

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The Troubled Teen Industry / The Drugging of our Children
« on: September 12, 2006, 10:58:43 PM »
http://http://www.garynull.com

Video here: (Must See..)

http://mms://wm.kinodigital.na-central.speedera.net/wm.kinodigital.na-central/garynull/trailers/druging_of_tr_new.wmv[/url]

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Does anyone actually believe this nonsense?
« on: September 08, 2006, 11:19:35 AM »
Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin""
Don't forget that Bipolar disorder is a legit problem. I think that the hype about it is bigger than the actual problem, but with no hard facts to support that statement I can't comment further. I do agree in general for lots of problems including bipolar disorder that alot of meds are handed out for reasons that seem pretty weak.


   Anyone suffering from the harmfull effects of psychiatric drugs prescribed to treat fake diseases will later exhibit so-called "symtoms of bi-polar disorder, as will those with undiagnosed allergies, unhealthy living habits not to mention perfectlt normal behaviors.

   The fact is there are no facts the support the existance of Bi-Polar disorders. If real scientific analysis is used the only evidence is the drugs used to treat Bi-Polar disorders in reality cause the chemical disturbances to the brain that give the impression that a disease is present when nothing is further from the truth. What you are really witnessing is a silent chemical assault on an innocent person.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Does anyone actually believe this nonsense?
« on: September 08, 2006, 10:28:54 AM »
What is really needed is something to stabalise the therapists from their addiction to the money these false diagnoses and prescribing drugs to treat these fake illnesses generate for them..

   I'd like to know how % of their patients are not on these drugs.. (0% maybe???)

   Their economic survival depends on selling this nonsense. Maybe immunity from prosecution could help their condition if they agree to testify against the drug companies?? And a type of welfare assistance since most are incapable of any type of productive work.. as long as they agree not of bother any child or adult again with their problems. If you do the math it would be a bargain for the people who are allready forced to support them through higher health insurance costs and tax revenue..

  What a racket!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Does anyone actually believe this nonsense?
« on: September 08, 2006, 09:22:37 AM »
There are few better examples that I'm aware of to demonstrate why therapists are dangerous to children that the "beliefs" listed below.. (But then I've only been on this form a few minutes, I'm sure it gets better..)

   Can there be any doubt that it's the therapists who really need to be helped after reading this complete nonsense below???

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For a child with pediatric bipolar disorder, the risk of dying by suicide is 20%. Most of those happen within the first three or four years after diagnosis.

Treated, the risk drops to 11%.

Lithium is very effective in bipolar children, but the need to closely monitor blood levels, while the child is constantly growing and changing, makes it not necessarily the first line treatment.

Other mood stabilizers control the mood swings just as well, usually, so usually it doesn't come down to needing to go to lithium.

Mania causes brain damage. The longer a child with pediatric bipolar disorder is allowed to be unstable, the more damage their is to the child's frontal lobes, resulting in IQ loss, as well as regression in reading, mathematics, writing---not simply failure to learn, but actual loss of skills already learned. Executive function problems, psychosis, extremely violent bipolar rages that do damage to people or property--rages lasting four to five hours.

Failing to stabilize a bipolar child can mean the difference between learning in school and ultimately being a functional adult with a job, versus total lifelong social security-qualifying disability.

The drugs have risks, but for severe, serious mental illnesses, the risks of the drugs are lower than the risks of leaving the child unstable.

I wouldn't wish my childhood hell of being bipolar without diagnosis or treatment on anyone.

Much that the parents of children with pediatric bipolar disorder have noticed and know from experience is still being researched and documented by the scientific community.

The drugs work. When you can cut your child's risk of suicide in half, you take it.

There are pros and cons to various treatments of other disorders, but for pediatric bipolar disorder, medication is absolutely essential. It makes the difference between a despairing, totally disabled child and a happy, functional child.

Medication doesn't make those of us with bipolar disorder normal, but it does make us more stable and better off than we are without it.

Timoclea

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