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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / son in WWASP program
« on: April 17, 2006, 01:58:00 PM »
first of all to answer a few of the questions, i am from the midwest area and i am not a wwasp troll,  whatever that is (i'm not really very good with the internet speak type stuff), and yes the young man i talked to went to the same school as my son...i really have picked up alot of good info here, mainly from links to other stuff( govt. studies, papers by independant groups etc.) i am seriously thinking of pulling my son after alot of what i've read.  i still believe there are 2 sides to every story, and i don't have to attack everything and everyone who disagrees w/ mine..again thanks to all who provided usefull info w/o the personal BS about how terrible i am and that i should rot in hell for possibly making a bad choice concerning a very troubled son.

     again, thanks for your time(the majority of you)-----wwasp dad

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / son in WWASP program
« on: April 17, 2006, 10:51:00 AM »
well i said i would post the outcome of a mtg i had yesterday with a midwest graduate, so here goes.  the guy i talked to graduated midwest 3 to 4 months ago and is getting along pretty good.  no, he is not a brainwashed program moonie or anything like that, i know most everyone here hates to see another point of view, (including personal attacks if i don't seem to quite agree w/ them).  he is VERY glad to be done w/ the program and back out in the real world. we talked for about an hour as he had to get going for a family easter thing.. he for sure doesn't think it is the be all and end all for troubled teens, but he's glad he went through it,  he thinks it saved his life---again does that mean he thinks it is the only possible answer for what he was going through(meth, heavy alcohol abuse, etc.)-HELL NO!!
  he's doing college courses and working, and has adjusted well to the outside world.. he's 18 now and still sees old friends(some of them--not the tweakers-which he considers to be a dead end to life), by the way the school's credits transfered fine, which means the place is accredited. when i asked about his view on the seminars, his answer was about like mine, pretty wierd..but he did get some useful help out of them(by the way, his mom "choose out" when she went through focus--saying it was all to nuts for her) i did get some eye rolls when we went in to some specific's of the program--my point being he is NOT a program moonie. so overall he thought it was a good experience for HIM..
  to answer a few of your questions in advance, this mtg. was not set up by the program, he is a   friend of a friends son.  when i showed him this forum i got alot more eye rolls, he did agree with  some of the points, but the physical abuse,(the hobbit, the hole, the pepper spray, restained and on your belly, etc) DOES NOT happen there.  he could not believe some of the posts on these type of topics--not to say they are lies--just that they don't happen there..
  anyway, my quest for more opinions and info continues-------i'll put on my armour now, so the attacks can begin, after all, this is a different point of view from most on this sight.........

       thanks for your time----wwasp dad

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / son in WWASP program
« on: April 14, 2006, 09:30:00 AM »
first of all i would like to thank all the people who did reply to the post.  alot of the info was very informative, and if nothing else gave me a different spin on things.  the link to the video was something that i found very interesting. i new right from the beginning that first and formost that this was a business, especially considering the cost.  to answer some of your questions, we have been to the seminars, which i have to admit were quite strange, although i did pick-up SOME useful tools in dealing w/ everyday life.  my son is at midwest academy in iowa.  as for never being able to communicate without staff around, we have had a couple of off ground visits where i'm sure i would have heard about the severe stuff you guys talk about.  of course you all will say he is brainwashed, and or scared of what may happen if he did say something.. well to answer that ahead of time, you  don't know my son. i pulled him aside on both of these visits, w/o his mother around and told him to lay it all on me..now he HATES being there but does admit it gave him a different view of choices and life in general..he also had alot to say about how the PROGRAM is so gay,etc.  as for the staff, there are some he doesn't care for at all, and others he has a great deal of respect for.  we saw one staff member outside the school (coincidental at a local retail store), and if you could of seen how they greeted each other, you would've seen that this wasn't an acting job.
        today or tomorrow i'm meeting with an ex-student of this particlar facility, to get his spin on all of this..he has done very well since leaving the place(about 1 year ago).  again the reason for this meeting is for more info from all the sources that are available to me.
  i will post how that went in the next day or two and hopefully get more input from you folks.

             thanks again for your time and input--it's greatly appreciated- - -wwasp dad

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / son in WWASP program
« on: April 13, 2006, 07:48:00 PM »
i'm just curious, were you in a wwasp school?? if not,where are you getting your info

                thanks,  wwasp dad

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / son in WWASP program
« on: April 13, 2006, 05:46:00 PM »
hi folks,
  just thought i would bring another side to all this information. my son has been at a WWASP school since 2/05, and he has been doing fantastic the last 6 months or so.  before i get unloaded on, i'd like to give you a bit of background info. he was 16 1/2 years old when we sent him there.  he had been a great young man up to the last 6 or 8 months before we sent him there, well i guess that's just me, he was just a typical teenager with all the problems and ups and downs that teens have.  then he found the drug we call METH, and he went downhill very, very quickly.  i won't go into the details because i'm sure you've all heard or read about this terrible shit. so we tried mental health pros, drug treatment, understanding and just went through all our options..all to no avail.  then we heard of this program and decided to try it.  it has been the best track we could have taken.  was i totally sold on it right away?? hell no--but over the past year and 1/2 i can't argue with the results--does he love it there??--another hell no, who would..but he's happy with alot of the tools he's learned about and can use in everyday life--i'm still not a program moonie, but as i said before, i can't argue the results..oh, and by the way-his mouth or nose isn't in a pile of METH either---and the thing that scares him more then anything is the thought of that drug, and what would happen if he did it just once again...........

          thanks for your time---wwasp dad

---------PS- - please reply with your opinion, i like to see the other side of things

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