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Elan School / Elan's effects on you
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Elan School / Elan's effects on you
« on: August 07, 2003, 10:50:00 AM »
I,ve been out of Elan for 12 years now, whats really strange is from time to time I still get these dreams where I am being re-admitted to Elan to serve 18 months all over again.During the duration of my dream I find myself saying , Omg this is really true, its not a dream anymore, I'm really at Elan.
Then when I wake up I'm like oh man I just had another intense dream about that place.
Mark and Jeffery tried there hardest to be intense on me during my stay but I never let them break me.I basically skated through the place.I was older then the other students and a little more head strong then them, and both Jeff and Mark realized that.
Yea I would get dealt with from time to time for fucking up but they had so much trust in me they would let me roam the complex as a worker.I was once shot down from coordiantor of the b.o. then became a worker of the b.o. and still carried out the task's and responsibilites of a coordinator.Tina Hicks looked right over me being a worker and still saw me as coordinator and every Tuesday aske me it the paper work was completed.
Hell even there was other residents in the b.o. I did their jobs as well, I basically ran the entire office by myself, except for the cleaning part, I let a shot down or volunteer do it.As a worker of the b.o. that was my one and only responsibility to do at the time.
I stayed contempt on running the b.o. evevn as a worker because I knew no one else could run the b.o. like I did and I always got all the proper paper work done and handed in on time.
During my last 3 months of Elan I remained either a worker or a Dept. head, but most of the time I remembered being a worker.
I enjoyed beinf a coordinator of the b.o. but loathed being c.o.d. I could deal with all of it, it was too much chaos.
Mark and Jeff use to say you have to deal with it,you need responsibilites and have to learn to take orders from other people.Because the truth is one day you will be out in the real world and have a job and there will always be someone giving you orders,I alwyas said, nope, I will not allow that to happen in life, I will own my own business and won't have to answer to anyone but myself.
Their response " You dont even want to go to college, how do you expect to own your own business?"
Reality today, I own my own business, never went to college married a physician and now have a combined income well into the six figures.Most of my week I spend at the gym, taking akido classes and watching movies on my 46 inch high defination wide screen tv.I basically live in a low stress enviroment, wake up in the morning when I want too, work when I want too and do what I want too.
So I gotta ask Jeff and Mark, am I successful or what?
Elan's main goal is to try and tell you how to live your life and how you go about doing it, bullshit!
I changed on my own and far after I left that place.When I got out of Elan I was doing drugs that I never tried before I got there because I heard about them in Elan and the effects it had.I partied my ass off for many years, had some low paying job to support myself and pay the rent.Life really didnt hit me until I turned 28.Here I was working for a friend making 10 dollars and hour being an exterminator.My friend who owned his business was a year younger then me thats when it hit me.It was like being in elan as a worker when your peers are coordinators.So I decided to open up my own landscaping and snow plowing business.And little by little it grew and grew.This past winter was very snowy and I made a ton of money.The worst would have to say is , yeah it was great except the times when I was making shitty money which is $500.00 an hour.$1000.00 an hour was the main income I was making during the plowing season.
Anyway if there is others out there that were told by Elan how to run your life and what you need to do, dont listen to it.When it is time to take control over your life you will know when to do it.The best freedom one can have in life is owning your own business.Follow your instincs and the money will come in.
Then when I wake up I'm like oh man I just had another intense dream about that place.
Mark and Jeffery tried there hardest to be intense on me during my stay but I never let them break me.I basically skated through the place.I was older then the other students and a little more head strong then them, and both Jeff and Mark realized that.
Yea I would get dealt with from time to time for fucking up but they had so much trust in me they would let me roam the complex as a worker.I was once shot down from coordiantor of the b.o. then became a worker of the b.o. and still carried out the task's and responsibilites of a coordinator.Tina Hicks looked right over me being a worker and still saw me as coordinator and every Tuesday aske me it the paper work was completed.
Hell even there was other residents in the b.o. I did their jobs as well, I basically ran the entire office by myself, except for the cleaning part, I let a shot down or volunteer do it.As a worker of the b.o. that was my one and only responsibility to do at the time.
I stayed contempt on running the b.o. evevn as a worker because I knew no one else could run the b.o. like I did and I always got all the proper paper work done and handed in on time.
During my last 3 months of Elan I remained either a worker or a Dept. head, but most of the time I remembered being a worker.
I enjoyed beinf a coordinator of the b.o. but loathed being c.o.d. I could deal with all of it, it was too much chaos.
Mark and Jeff use to say you have to deal with it,you need responsibilites and have to learn to take orders from other people.Because the truth is one day you will be out in the real world and have a job and there will always be someone giving you orders,I alwyas said, nope, I will not allow that to happen in life, I will own my own business and won't have to answer to anyone but myself.
Their response " You dont even want to go to college, how do you expect to own your own business?"
Reality today, I own my own business, never went to college married a physician and now have a combined income well into the six figures.Most of my week I spend at the gym, taking akido classes and watching movies on my 46 inch high defination wide screen tv.I basically live in a low stress enviroment, wake up in the morning when I want too, work when I want too and do what I want too.
So I gotta ask Jeff and Mark, am I successful or what?
Elan's main goal is to try and tell you how to live your life and how you go about doing it, bullshit!
I changed on my own and far after I left that place.When I got out of Elan I was doing drugs that I never tried before I got there because I heard about them in Elan and the effects it had.I partied my ass off for many years, had some low paying job to support myself and pay the rent.Life really didnt hit me until I turned 28.Here I was working for a friend making 10 dollars and hour being an exterminator.My friend who owned his business was a year younger then me thats when it hit me.It was like being in elan as a worker when your peers are coordinators.So I decided to open up my own landscaping and snow plowing business.And little by little it grew and grew.This past winter was very snowy and I made a ton of money.The worst would have to say is , yeah it was great except the times when I was making shitty money which is $500.00 an hour.$1000.00 an hour was the main income I was making during the plowing season.
Anyway if there is others out there that were told by Elan how to run your life and what you need to do, dont listen to it.When it is time to take control over your life you will know when to do it.The best freedom one can have in life is owning your own business.Follow your instincs and the money will come in.
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Elan School / Elan's effects on you
« on: July 25, 2003, 10:21:00 AM »
When I was sent to Elan back in 1988 I didnt take it seriously and fucked around most of the time.Most of the students in their were into hard core drugs like coke , acid, ect.I never even touched those drugs before coming to Elan.I smoked pot 3 times in my life before coming to Elan.
When I finallly got out I experimented with coke, and acid very often because of all the stories I heard about it in Elan.So if you were to ask me whether or not did Elan have an effect on you I would have to say yes.
Maybe its me maybe I'm just negitive, but Elan taught me to be a more slick type of a person.Before going into Elan I would act of my feelings and react instantanisly and would therefore get in trouble.But Elan opened a new door for me and that door showed me how to arrrest the feelings and hold on to them and relase them at a later appropiate time.
Sure they offered use a chance to get our feelings off in gruops at the people that pissed us off, but sometimes that was not enough and those people that pissed you off would continue to piss you off as soon as group was over.I sought a different way to get back at the people I hated during my stay at Elan.
One of the things that I would do is capitalize on the person I didnt like with another person that they didnt get along with.
When I was strength I would have free roam of the complex during head counts at night in school.I would go into the dorms and take residents possesions and put them hiden in drawers of people I didnt like, so that the chief expeditor would eventially do a guilt run and find them and they "The people I didnt like" would get a GM over it.
The whole point is it made me feel 100% better knowing I got the last kick in.Some of the people their deserved it too,I couldn't stand them and my other peers also hated them.I managed to skip right through the program and rewrite it at the same time for myself.I made myself connected in Elan.I was able to get dunkin donuts 3 times a week from maitenance,I always had many extra packs of cigarettes so I wouldnt run out at the end of the week.Alot of the time I managed to escape the floor by working in the kitchen all day with Bob and Dennis the cooks.Staff had so much trust in me they would let me continue to sleep down at re-entry dorms and walk around the complex to do errrands alone as a worker, sometimes even a shotdown.All of the other students hated it, they were so jealous.
I dont think Elan can really change someone, I think you grow out of it.Elan helped me to become more sneaky and I love it.Getting revenge on people years down the road has great rewards.2 years ago I was able to get back at someone real good for something they did to me 9 years prior,9 fuckin years, thats how long I waited and man did it pay off big time.Not only did I physically dominate them but I set the person up to get arrested and have his driving privleges revoked for over a year.I speared this guy so hard he hit the floor and had a concussion, I ran through this son-of-a-bitch like a knife through warm butter.He had it coming too.And to think all this patience I had was from what I learned at Elan,Thanks Elan, thanks for showing me how to pause my hostlity and unpause it for another time and day.
When I finallly got out I experimented with coke, and acid very often because of all the stories I heard about it in Elan.So if you were to ask me whether or not did Elan have an effect on you I would have to say yes.
Maybe its me maybe I'm just negitive, but Elan taught me to be a more slick type of a person.Before going into Elan I would act of my feelings and react instantanisly and would therefore get in trouble.But Elan opened a new door for me and that door showed me how to arrrest the feelings and hold on to them and relase them at a later appropiate time.
Sure they offered use a chance to get our feelings off in gruops at the people that pissed us off, but sometimes that was not enough and those people that pissed you off would continue to piss you off as soon as group was over.I sought a different way to get back at the people I hated during my stay at Elan.
One of the things that I would do is capitalize on the person I didnt like with another person that they didnt get along with.
When I was strength I would have free roam of the complex during head counts at night in school.I would go into the dorms and take residents possesions and put them hiden in drawers of people I didnt like, so that the chief expeditor would eventially do a guilt run and find them and they "The people I didnt like" would get a GM over it.
The whole point is it made me feel 100% better knowing I got the last kick in.Some of the people their deserved it too,I couldn't stand them and my other peers also hated them.I managed to skip right through the program and rewrite it at the same time for myself.I made myself connected in Elan.I was able to get dunkin donuts 3 times a week from maitenance,I always had many extra packs of cigarettes so I wouldnt run out at the end of the week.Alot of the time I managed to escape the floor by working in the kitchen all day with Bob and Dennis the cooks.Staff had so much trust in me they would let me continue to sleep down at re-entry dorms and walk around the complex to do errrands alone as a worker, sometimes even a shotdown.All of the other students hated it, they were so jealous.
I dont think Elan can really change someone, I think you grow out of it.Elan helped me to become more sneaky and I love it.Getting revenge on people years down the road has great rewards.2 years ago I was able to get back at someone real good for something they did to me 9 years prior,9 fuckin years, thats how long I waited and man did it pay off big time.Not only did I physically dominate them but I set the person up to get arrested and have his driving privleges revoked for over a year.I speared this guy so hard he hit the floor and had a concussion, I ran through this son-of-a-bitch like a knife through warm butter.He had it coming too.And to think all this patience I had was from what I learned at Elan,Thanks Elan, thanks for showing me how to pause my hostlity and unpause it for another time and day.
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Elan School / Nightguards
« on: June 08, 2003, 10:11:00 AM »
Yea, Shelia the night guard I hated her.Dont know if any of you people know who i am talking about.She would be the night guard for house 3 and womens dorms on occasion.
She would come into work dressed in flourescent clothing and bring 2 full grocery bags of junk food.She would book every one and everyone including c.o.d.i hated her fuckin guts.I once called a group on her on several diferent occasions and E-1 denied it.
I think they finally fired her because of all the complaints about her.
There was this other also named Bob who sometimes be the night guard down in re.entry dorms. he was a stupid fuck, he pissed me off real good one time and I placed him in my shit list.Every Friday I use to take his time card and rip it up so E-1 didnt know how many hours he worked.he got so frustrated and complained to E-1 about it that E-3 had a brief house meeting about it.I wasn't gonna cop to it nor did I have any intentions.That was the only way I could get back at that son-of-bitch for pissing me off.So Bob if you ever stumble across this website and read this message, look me up, I still have some unfinished business with your lame ass.
There was 2 other night guards Leroy and Gerald, they were so cool.Leroy was this short long black bearded person who still thought he was in Vietnam.Some one mentioned him earlier in this forum.
Gerald was so laid back he would let you kick a window out and would never tell Elan about it, though I never reallly heard him speak more then 5 words when I was there,not to mock him, he was a great guy.One time I was in the corner at the school house in restraints for kicking out a window and gerald was elected my S.P. temporily while another one came and i put my head through the window and broke it, Gerald stood there and said,"Oh gosh gosh gosh gosh".He was so cool, he probably would even let you run away without saying anything.
There was a handful of hired help there that was real cool and good people, Bob and Dennis the cooks, the had a big time goofing contract with them.those guys were such a trip, they would make you laugh even on those shitty days that everyone went through at Elan.Bob and I clicked instantly, I guess we had the same interest in life, ofcoarse he was in his 50's and I was 18.From what I heard awhile back he retired.
The custodians were also great people, Reggie and shit i forgot the other people's names, they use to give me donuts when I snuck down there to hang out with them.I heard Reggie had to retire due to health problems, he was in his late 60's during my time.
She would come into work dressed in flourescent clothing and bring 2 full grocery bags of junk food.She would book every one and everyone including c.o.d.i hated her fuckin guts.I once called a group on her on several diferent occasions and E-1 denied it.
I think they finally fired her because of all the complaints about her.
There was this other also named Bob who sometimes be the night guard down in re.entry dorms. he was a stupid fuck, he pissed me off real good one time and I placed him in my shit list.Every Friday I use to take his time card and rip it up so E-1 didnt know how many hours he worked.he got so frustrated and complained to E-1 about it that E-3 had a brief house meeting about it.I wasn't gonna cop to it nor did I have any intentions.That was the only way I could get back at that son-of-bitch for pissing me off.So Bob if you ever stumble across this website and read this message, look me up, I still have some unfinished business with your lame ass.
There was 2 other night guards Leroy and Gerald, they were so cool.Leroy was this short long black bearded person who still thought he was in Vietnam.Some one mentioned him earlier in this forum.
Gerald was so laid back he would let you kick a window out and would never tell Elan about it, though I never reallly heard him speak more then 5 words when I was there,not to mock him, he was a great guy.One time I was in the corner at the school house in restraints for kicking out a window and gerald was elected my S.P. temporily while another one came and i put my head through the window and broke it, Gerald stood there and said,"Oh gosh gosh gosh gosh".He was so cool, he probably would even let you run away without saying anything.
There was a handful of hired help there that was real cool and good people, Bob and Dennis the cooks, the had a big time goofing contract with them.those guys were such a trip, they would make you laugh even on those shitty days that everyone went through at Elan.Bob and I clicked instantly, I guess we had the same interest in life, ofcoarse he was in his 50's and I was 18.From what I heard awhile back he retired.
The custodians were also great people, Reggie and shit i forgot the other people's names, they use to give me donuts when I snuck down there to hang out with them.I heard Reggie had to retire due to health problems, he was in his late 60's during my time.
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Elan School / Elan 3 89-91
« on: June 07, 2003, 04:15:00 PM »
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Elan School / FBI files tv show
« on: October 25, 2002, 02:05:00 PM »
A few months bach they aired a re-enactment of 2 students that ran away and one got murdered.One girl I didnt know and the other was Mandy Gray.They had some guy play Marc Rosenbergs charcter, guy didnt even come close to what Marc Looks like.
Last I heard Mandy was living in GA and was going through some ruff times.So Mandy if you ever read this I would love to hear from you.
Over the past 2 years I have located 20 plus residents from my time.Hopefully I will find the rest of them.
Last I heard Mandy was living in GA and was going through some ruff times.So Mandy if you ever read this I would love to hear from you.
Over the past 2 years I have located 20 plus residents from my time.Hopefully I will find the rest of them.
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Elan School / Any Hoes in dis motha fucker?
« on: October 25, 2002, 01:51:00 PM »
I guess I know both of you because your names are on a pop sheet from January of 1991 that I posses.You were new residents at the time.
I remember people like Gene Hodges and Frank Futia getting dealt with for saying shit like "Hoes and bitch slapping"I can't beleive people still talk like that, havent heard that talk in over a decade.
I remember people like Gene Hodges and Frank Futia getting dealt with for saying shit like "Hoes and bitch slapping"I can't beleive people still talk like that, havent heard that talk in over a decade.
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Elan School / Carmel from Texas
« on: October 25, 2002, 01:47:00 PM »
What was this riot in elan I keep hearing about?I heard stories that the police had to come in because it was so out of control.I was in Elan from 89-91, I guess this took place after my time.
Fill me in I would love to hear the details.
Fill me in I would love to hear the details.
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Elan School / Elan School
« on: June 19, 2002, 05:33:00 PM »
Peter this Tania Merret you speak about at Elan, did she have curly hair kind of attractive looking with a deep voice?
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Elan School / Marc Rosenbergs address and phone #
« on: June 19, 2002, 05:13:00 PM »
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Elan School / Looking for my peers form 1989-1991
« on: June 19, 2002, 04:29:00 PM »
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