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Tacitus' Realm / Re: The Tea Party movement
« on: January 10, 2011, 02:33:47 PM »
Quote from: "seamus"
See what I mean? I can see umpteen directions for how this will get spun.And by a cast of several! Somebodys gonna whine about gun control....somebody will rebuke that....on and on, and the more opinion being played as fact there is the more of the truth will get lost.It never fails to amaze/disgust me. ::deadhorse::

Congresswoman Gifford has a pretty strong gun rights position.


Yeah, yeah....wikisource, I know.  Point about Gifford's stance on gun rights stands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrielle_ ... Gun_rights
Gun rights

Giffords supports gun rights.[52] She opposed the Washington D.C. gun ban, signing an Amicus curiae brief with the U.S. Supreme Court to support its overturn.[52][53] She has a D+ rating from the NRA[54] and a D- from the GOA.[55]

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He was making a joke WITH the Philly Eagles fans.

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia last night. “Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: The Tea Party movement
« on: January 10, 2011, 02:27:25 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
It amazes me how scared people are of Sarah Palin.

I think you're mistaking ridicule for fear.


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She would had been last years news if the Democrats had left her alone.    But they put her in the spot light, go figure.

Uh huh....quit her job MIDTERM so she could make tons of $$ giving speeches (way to take care of your constituents there babe), then stars in her own reality show (which is almost physically painful to watch).  But it's the Dems that have kept her in the media spotlight.  Ok.


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I hope that they do continue to try to blame the Tea Party for the shooting because it really makes them look foolish and desperate.

I don't know if there's anyone to blame, save for the psycho that actually shot.  I've heard that people that went to college with him about 3 years ago before he was kicked out said he was a stoner and an atheist but I've heard other comments about how his views had morphed into some white separatist movement.  No confirmation either way so, who knows. However, it doesn't excuse the extreme rhetoric coming out of the Tea Party candidates.....there's a difference between some random left-wing blogger saying stupid stuff and people who actually speak for a party.  We have a former candidate for Vice President putting up crosshairs on specific district representatives, then when asked about it says "don't retreat, reload" & the fact that they didn't take it down until this last Saturday AND now they're trying to say they were "survey marks", not crosshairs -  says something.  And don't forget, Gifford had her office vandalized shortly after Palin's crosshairs pic went up and has received a stream of death threats, as did many other of Palin's crosshairs targets.





Then there's Sharron Angle (R-NV) talking about "taking Harry Reid out" with "second amendment remedies"....

“You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. And in fact, Thomas Jefferson said it’s good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years.”

“I hope that’s not where we’re going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying, ‘my goodness what can we do to turn this country around?’ I’ll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.”


Continue reading on Examiner.com: Sharron Angle: "second amendment remedies" - Las Vegas Democrat | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-las ... z1Af2zPlDc

Those people actually speak for the Republican party (Tea Party) and, IMHO, need to be a tad more careful with the words they choose to use.  Note.....this does NOT mean I'm advocating for censorship of ANY kind.  Just that dolts like Palin & Angle need to think before they speak.  A difficult task for Saint Sarah, I know, but still.

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 Someone who can get us back on track and kick start the economy with jobs

I'm disappointed in a lot of things he's done (or rather, hasn't done), but ya gotta give credit where credit is due.



 
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get us out of Afghanistan.

 :nods:


On another note.....way to go Grandma!!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162- ... 04083.html



TUCSON, Ariz. (CBS/KPHO/AP) Four people are being hailed as heroes after Saturday's mass shooting in Tucson that left six dead and 14 others wounded, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

PICTURES: Arizona Shooting Victims

Daniel Hernandez used his hands to stop the bleeding from congresswoman's head. Roger Salzgeber and Joseph Zamudio tackled the suspect, Jared Loughner. But it was a 61-year-old woman who grabbed the magazine and handgun from the gunman that witnesses said helped prevent further tragedy.

"It was one shot, and then a moment with nothing, and then a series of shots," Patricia Maisch, of Tucson, told CBS affiliate KPHO. "I saw him coming down the line of chairs there, in front of the Safeway, just shooting people."

Two men tackled the gunman, but he could have done more damage. He still had the gun in his hand as he laid face-to-face with Maisch, she said.

"I was waiting to be shot, I was wondering how it was gonna feel to be shot," she told the station.

Maisch said she didn't stop to think of her own safety, she didn't hesitate for a second.

"I immediately knelt up over him, because he was right there almost on top of me, and the gun was in his right hand," she said.

She said she grabbed the 9mm handgun and the fully loaded magazine he took out of his pocket, disarming him before he could inflict more damage.

Even after all she's done, Maisch remained humble. She credits the two men who took the shooter down, rather than patting herself on the back. Witnesses said Maisch was screaming, "give me the gun" as she knelt over the gunman.

She said she doesn't remember what she said, but that she'll never forget that tragic day.

A federal judge, a congressional aide and a young girl were among the six people killed, while Giffords and 13 others were injured in the bursts of gunfire outside a Tucson supermarket.

Suspect Jared Loughner, 22, will face a federal court hearing Monday afternoon. Loughner is charged with one count of attempted assassination of a member of Congress, two counts of killing an employee of the federal government and two counts of attempting to kill a federal employee. More charges are expected.

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Open Free for All / Re: Shocking I know, but Dr. Drew is a real asshole.
« on: January 06, 2011, 01:42:44 PM »
More on Dr. Drew and Celebrity Rehab....

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php ... y_rehab_pu

Troubled 70's pop star Leif Garrett has prompted a war of words between himself and the producers of VH1 reality show "Celebrity Rehab" after accusing them of accelerating his 2010 drug relapse for dramatic effect.
 
The singer, who has been battling drug abuse for years, checked into the latest season of Celebrity Rehab in a bid to kick his habit, but in a new Los Angeles Times interview, Garrett claims producers encouraged him to relapse in a bid to boost ratings.
 
He says, "(The producers) asked to get some footage of me using, and I said, 'I haven't been using'. They said, 'We really have to get footage of you using.' Anyway, I was easily talked into showing them."
 
Scott Acord, vice president of VH1 Communications, has denied Garrett's claim, stating, "The show's producers would never ask anyone to use... PERIOD."
 
Garrett, 49, filmed his segments for the reality show with actors Eric Roberts and Jeremy London.
 
Since the show the singer has pleaded no contest to a 2010 heroin possession charge and entered court-ordered rehab.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« on: December 24, 2010, 02:02:17 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
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I have experience with the TTI , it is just different than yours and more up to date

You have a limited outsiders experience that does not come close to our first hand experiences. Your information is by no means up to date or accurate.

seems we disagree on this.


So, what......you're saying that you spent a couple of years inside one of these hellholes?

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
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Your parents felt they were doing the right thing. Maybe in 50 years we will realize how damaging it was to send our kids to public school.




Public Schools on average remain far safer than programs, so there's no reason people would think this in 50 years. Afterall public schools in America have existed for over 100 years. No reason for that to suddenly change.

I heard people said straight was a safe place back in the 1970's.

Citation please.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« on: December 24, 2010, 02:00:19 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
One has LGAT's and the other one doesn't.  Thats a comparison.  so you see you can compare the two to see how different they are.  I am looking at the abuses which are revealed in the paper and news items.

The point is that it can be done.  So people may be interested others not so much.  When people read the title of the thread they can decide if they want to read it or not and whether it adds value to them.


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I know, it makes you think doesnt it.

No, it verifies that you're just doing this for what you think is fun.  To those of us that actually went through it, it's damn serious.

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This thread really shows Whooter's attitude towards kids and how to deal with them.  It's one of, if not the most, telling threads he's participated in.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« on: December 24, 2010, 12:51:44 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"

If it's independent.  This "study" was not.

So each of us decides based on our own requirements.  Some of us would believe the studies while others would not and I think that is the way it should be.  No one can force us to believe anything we dont want to.  The main thing is to get the information out to the people and allow them to decide for themselves.


But you twist the information and not only that, you have no experience inside those places.  We do.


I have experience with the TTI , it is just different than yours and more up to date.


You have OUTSIDE experience.  You have no idea what it's like to be inside one of those places for years at a time.

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Actually, as you've read, my dad has started to come around and figuring out that what he did was wrong.

Glade to hear it.  At the time I am sure he felt he was doing the right thing.


No, not really.  He was a controlling freak. He treated my Mom horribly.  He's mellowed in his old age.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse
« on: December 24, 2010, 12:48:39 PM »
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Some other opinions on the Behrens study...

Quote from: "Gonzotherapy"
This is so ridiculous. Right at the bottom of this "study" it says that Aspen Education paid for it. Why would Aspen pay to have anything other than a promotional study done?

And I find it very interesting that all results are based on behavior upon entrance and discharge of the program. Not one word about a year down the road or farther. Of course the majority of kids are going to change their behavior and are going to follow the rules in the program, the alternative is to be horribly abused. This Doctor may have her skewed research bought, but at least she isn't a flat out liar.

This study is a complete croc of shit, and this Dr. ought to be ashamed of herself.

Whooter, seriously. Is this the best you can come up with? A study that Aspen itself paid for?

Name one company that pays for research that is detrimental to that companies existence.

 :bump:

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Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Froderik"
Quote from: "Samara"
even if she dropped out and enjoyed every vice known to man on a daily basis - I still don't think the answer is a Mind Rape Factory.

Of course not...is it ever the answer?

I think we all agree, I dont think anyone deserved to be placed in Straight.  I dont think the parents knew much about them in those days.


Then why do you lie about my actions pre-Straight and say that my parents were right in sending me there?


 :bump:

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« on: December 24, 2010, 12:34:17 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
One has LGAT's and the other one doesn't.  Thats a comparison.  so you see you can compare the two to see how different they are.  I am looking at the abuses which are revealed in the paper and news items.

The point is that it can be done.  So people may be interested others not so much.  When people read the title of the thread they can decide if they want to read it or not and whether it adds value to them.


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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« on: December 24, 2010, 12:33:19 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"

If it's independent.  This "study" was not.

So each of us decides based on our own requirements.  Some of us would believe the studies while others would not and I think that is the way it should be.  No one can force us to believe anything we dont want to.  The main thing is to get the information out to the people and allow them to decide for themselves.


But you twist the information and not only that, you have no experience inside those places.  We do.

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Froderik"
Quote from: "Samara"
even if she dropped out and enjoyed every vice known to man on a daily basis - I still don't think the answer is a Mind Rape Factory.

Of course not...is it ever the answer?

I think we all agree, I dont think anyone deserved to be placed in Straight.  I dont think the parents knew much about them in those days.


Then why do you lie about my actions pre-Straight and say that my parents were right in sending me there?

Why do you lie and say I profit from the industry or have sons I placed in the industry?

I said that was my BELIEF......not a fact.

Quote from: "Whooter"
Your parents felt they were doing the right thing.

Actually, as you've read, my dad has started to come around and figuring out that what he did was wrong.

Quote from: "Whooter"
 Maybe in 50 years we will realize how damaging it was to send our kids to public school.


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