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Here we go again.  It's simply a matter of time before one or more of these kids ends up dead.  Lack of qualified/trained staff, med mistakes, no background checks on employees, no references for employees, kids beating kids, kids having unprotected sex without having blood tests or urinalysis for STD's, staff harming kids without reporting incidents, kids heads smashed without reports, broken bones without reports, over-18 residents with no criminal checks having sex with younger inmates, etc, etc, etc.  This list goes on and on...

PARENTS, Ridge Creek "School" is a dangerous youth prison, not an educational facility.  You need to WAKE UP and fast before your kid ends up raped, assaulted or dead.

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Here's the actual recap of this topic which I have just read from front to back.

1. I posted only this post in this thread.  Why Whooter is so obsessed with me, I have no idea.
2.  Whooter called Anne's being raped "unprotected sex," an absoultely heinous remark, because he was busted out telling more lies in another thread and he wanted to hit back at Anne for catching him lying, which apparently spawned this topic.
3.  Anne is upset and angry with Whooter for his callous remarks.
4.  Anne is not upset with me because I have not been involved with this topic at all, nor is she mad at any other posters beside Whooter, as she has stated.
5.  Whooter got caught again lying his ass off multiple times.
6.  Whooter tried to blame Anne, WY and me for his actions/lies.
7.  Whooter was proven to be lying that he wasn't aware of Anne's situation via his own posts.
8.  Whooter wants this topic shut down because it reveals his serious personality disorders.

I think that about covers it.  I'm lecturing this week and next but will check back on this topic later on.  See you around, people.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:57:04 AM »
I wonder if there are any documented instances of survivors creating fake families so they can share the fake family "program success" with potential marks?  I know this has happened with a program "parent" (not sure if Whooter really is a parent to any non"fabricated" children) here, but I have never heard anyone accusing a survivor of such blatant, self-serving lies used to push an agenda.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

Personally, I'd have to see something that rises to this level even to give this topic any thought.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: TheWho
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:50:49 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

Quote from: "Froderik"
Fucking liar.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I admit that

Glad we got to the bottom of it.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:49:14 AM »
Correction, Anne, it's a bunch of BS made up by Whooter that was never posted here.  Another fabricated story from the congenital liar Whooter.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:57:04 AM »
I wonder if there are any documented instances of survivors creating fake families so they can share the fake family "program success" with potential marks?  I know this has happened with a program "parent" (not sure if Whooter really is a parent to any non"fabricated" children) here, but I have never heard anyone accusing a survivor of such blatant, self-serving lies used to push an agenda.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

Personally, I'd have to see something that rises to this level even to give this topic any thought.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: TheWho
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:50:49 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

Quote from: "Froderik"
Fucking liar.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I admit that

Glad we got to the bottom of it.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:49:14 AM »
Correction, Anne, it's a bunch of BS made up by Whooter that was never posted here.  Another fabricated story from the congenital liar Whooter.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Many Many Programs Abuse Kids
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:47:33 AM »
Suuuuurrrre you did, Whooter.  If you had anything like that you would have done what I did to you and simply QFTed the posts.  Since they didn't exist, you couldn't do that and now you're left to just making stuff up, like you made up your nonexistent family.  Anyone can click your silly link and see that there is no post as you described and anyone can click the link I provided to see you wrote that yourself and it appears nowhere else in the DB.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: confused...
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:44:06 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Most people dont agree with me because
Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

That is true, Whooter.  But that's only one of the reasons.

Confused, be careful when looking into these programs.  You will meet (actually already have met) people here who will try to convince you that the programs they promote are safe and effective, but they aren't.  Keep in mind that people who represent programs do it for the money, not to help kids.

How long until this boy's 18th birthday?  At that point none of this will matter.  Until then you could try to get him to seek help on his own, but trying to force someone to "change" using proven-to-be-dangerous psychological techniques and/or extreme behavior modification rooted in punishment just isn't going to work or help.  It's a non-starter from a mental hygiene perspective.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Many Many Programs Abuse Kids
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:33:49 AM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Now Imagine if I had written something like that.  do you think everyone would say:  "Oh that Whooter is just having fun again, he is such a kidder"  or do you think it would be viewed as a disgusting sick minded post from a program parent in need of therapy trying to discredit a poster so he can make more money...  lol.


Well, they said it was meant to be satirical.  That doesn't necessarily mean humorous.  Kinda like your absurd "analogies".

Quote from: "Whooter"
Imagine if I had written something like that.

Funny you say that, Whooter, because you did write it.

It never existed.  Whooter got caught making up posts again.  I certainly never said anything even remotely resembling that remark, it was never quoted or repeated anywhere and if you search for it you get exactly two hits, both written by Whooter.  So, no, it wasn't satirical or humorous, it was fabricated out of whole cloth by idiot-boy.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Many Many Programs Abuse Kids
« on: October 13, 2010, 06:49:04 PM »
Quote from: "Samara"
In this case, DJ was being satirical. You know that.

Did you click on the link, Samara?  The post doesn't exist.  Whooter made it up.  But it's nice to see that readers give the honest folk here the benefit of the doubt.

Do a search on "the staff licked my bottom" and you get two hits, both Whooter.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Second Nature Wilderness Program
« on: October 12, 2010, 08:12:20 AM »
Whoops.  So much for that phony family fairy tale.  Whooter has to make up a new family now with a new story so he can "prove" that the programs saved his phony kid and family.   :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.

Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here.  The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.

Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.


Face it.....you got busted buddy boy.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

I admit that, Anne, but read through the thread and see what they did to this woman "worried Anne" and calling her son gay and pretending to be survivors with her son.  
I dont see it as being wrong at all.  I feel sorry for the woman.  I would probably do it again if the situation warranted.



...

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Open Free for All / Re: Robert and Shaggy can they be Serious.
« on: October 10, 2010, 05:09:12 PM »
This is what he's trying to avoid, Robert.  He finally admitted he's been lying about his made-up daughter for many years and also admits that he's fine with lying as long as it's to advance his agenda of promoting programs.  "The ends justify the means" in the warped mind of this congenital liar.
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Whooter finally admits his whole story here is straight cock-and-bull nonsense.

Here he admits to having his SON sent to Second Nature Wilderness:

Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.

Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here.  The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.

Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.


Face it.....you got busted buddy boy.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

I admit that, Anne, but read through the thread and see what they did to this woman "worried Anne" and calling her son gay and pretending to be survivors with her son.  
I dont see it as being wrong at all.  I feel sorry for the woman.  I would probably do it again if the situation warranted.



...

Finally forced to admit his whole story here is bullshit.  Priceless.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« on: October 10, 2010, 05:00:03 PM »
No need for Whooter to prove who he is.  That's done already.  He has already admitted to all of the inside details of Mike Reuben's placement including exactly where he got treatment prior to the program, who referred him and all the details about his academics before placement as well.  It's sorry to have to see Whooter try to pretend he has a daughter and that "if only he could prove" he wasn't John Reuben then he, dammit, *tears streaming down his cheeks* he would do just that, Anne.

Gimme a break already.  Just read the below posts where Whooter tells all of it in his own words.  He's just a lying asshole using Fornits to try to do damage control for his floundering program referral business.  It's sad to watch as I admitted, but it's what the "true believers" will do to cover for their precious programs.  Whooter even made up children he didn't have to hold them out as "true program success stories."  That's a level of sickness most of us could never fathom, but hr did it and confessed to it.

Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: "TheWho"
Quote from: "A friend of Max"

when people are angry at other people, they can make things up. max was angry at his dad for sending him to a school that robbed him of his youth and closure with his mother. It is equally as likely that he was directing his anger towards his dad and making things up, as it is that his dad was actually involved in his mother's death.

Does anyone know how long Max was away from HLA for his mothers funeral?  Was he forced to go?

3 Days maybe 4 I dont remember.  A family member an aunt I think picked him up and went back with him.  He wasnt forced to go, he was glad to get a break from that place.

Well, here's the conclusive proof that TheWho is either John Reuben or the most shameless liar of all time on Fornits, or both.  

Please explain to us, Whooter, how you are privy to the family information.  We're all ears.

Here's more of WHooter's detailed, unpublished information regarding Mike Reuben:

Quote from: "TheWho"
Prior to ASR  the father had Mike seen by a specialist in the field of addiction and he was referred to a Counselor who worked one on one with him.  As his grades continued to slip and his relationship with drugs became stronger he was recommended to ASR by The Director of Pediatrics at Children’s Hospital in Boston.
ASR was able to arrest his behavior, teach him to cope with himself and the problems that life will and has thrown at him and set him on a healthy path.  He graduated ASR, attended and graduated from college and continued his interest in Music and a made himself successful in a career in Sales.  He continued to struggle throughout his life with his addiction until it finally took his life.
As we all know addiction isn’t something that is cured but is a lifetime challenge and each person attempts to hold it at bay the best he can.  The road can be long and arduous and in many instances the road is short as it was for Mike.
Please be respectful of this boys life and struggles and don’t twist his story to make him a tool for your agenda.

How would Whooter know all of this unpublished information?

Hmmmm.....  Getting more interesting as we go...

Funny.  I think most people know and have used the word "junkie" before.  I had never seen it spelled "junky" (when referring to a "junkie") before until today.

Quote from: "TheWho"
If you tie a junky to his bed for a couple of days to get him past the physical addiction is it considered cruel? If he comes thru it and says “Thank you man you saved my life, I owe you big time, my friend” is that worth it to both of you? Should you go to jail for restraining someone? Kidnapping? Torture?

That word appears nowhere else on this forum except that post.  But, it does appear elsewhere on the 'net...

Quote from: "John Reuben"
Live Music Junky

...on John Reuben's MySpace page.

Also from John Reuben's MySpace page (from 2007, before Mike died, but after his wife, Lena, died):
Quote from: "John Reuben"
John's Blurbs
About me:
I am 48, father of two older boys, runner, and live music lover. My tastes range mostly from blues to classic rock, to alternative. Recent shows: Everclear Peter Yorn Chicago Steely Dan Widespread Panic Eric Clapton Allman Brothers Sarah Borges Entrain Jeff Pitchell I see about 30-40 shows a year.  
Who I'd like to meet:
Hoping to meet someone I can share some time with and in particular, see sdome music with this summer.  

"Who" else on Fornits is a "Live Music Junky" that always talks about how many shows he sees?

I also noticed that he didn't say he is a "widower," he says he is "divorced."  Pretty creepy considering that other posters here who went to HLA with Max said that Max "blamed his father for his mother's death."

Quote from: "John Reuben"
Children: I don't want kids

Yeah, no shit.  I think we knew that already.

Quote from: "John Reuben"
Hometown: Philadelphia

"Who" else on Fornits is from Philly...?

Quote from: "Whooter"
I spent so much time sleeping in the streets around the spectrum in Philadelphia waiting for the ticket offices to open up that the homeless and I started to recognize and nod to each other. Ticket-tron was just getting started and they were only given a limited number of tickets to sell, so the only guarantee was the ticket office. Besides many other things I was a concert junkie.

Quote from: "TheWho"
I wont tell you my year of birth. But the concert was in the winter 1973, December I think, and it was at the Spectrum in Philadelphia. It was the Quadrophenia tour.

Quote from: "John Reuben statement"
He does it "to get something positive out of this tragedy and let people know this happens in fortunate and unfortunate families, in Malden, Somerville, Sudbury and Los Angeles," he said.

Malden, eh?  I wonder "Who" else has posted from Malden here on Fornits...?

Quote from: "Psy"
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Quote from: "IP Locator"
IP Address   Country   Region   City   Latitude/Longitude   ZIP Code   Time Zone
    24.41.10.XXX  UNITED STATES   MASSACHUSETTS   MALDEN   42.4305-71.0574   02148 -05:00
   Net Speed   ISP   Domain
DSL   EARTHLINK INC   EARTHLINK.NET

   IDD Code   Area Code   Weather Station
1   781   USMA0228 - MALDEN

Then we have Whooter posting from IP address (thanks for giving Psy permission to post these IP's Whooter.  It has been a big help to me!) 24.41.82.XXX.

And where does our handy little IP Locator put this IP address?  "Swampscott, MA."

Who might Whooter know in Swampscott, I wonder...?

Catherine Reuben!

Just "coincidences" I suppose...?

Whooter, or John, whichever you prefer, you are the biggest fucking phony liar I have ever had the displeasure to become acquainted with.

Why would anyone believe a single word this congenital liar utters here?  Makes no sense.  It's all phony.

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