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I sense your sarcasm.  I tried to provide a little more explanation, but you accused me of "tapdancing"

Here is a clearer answer.  Everyone that was their needed to be there.

I too saw the WAMI video. (I think that is what you are referring to)  I too disagree with what happened.  I dont know if SAFE made a policy change in that regard or it was an over-zealous staff member who crossed the line.  What I am hearing about kids being overmedicated is also disturbing.  Like I said before, I dont think anyone has much to worry about.  I dont see SAFE being open at the end of this year.  They are having serious financial troubles.  

PS:  The main reason things are not great there anymore, is because I am not there.  HAHA

You are absolutely right.  The kids that were discharged during the eval period, had just experimented and had not really abused drugs.  In an earlier post, I actually cut and paste from the DSM the signs and symptoms that someone has to have to get diagnosed.  Personally, I think that a place like SAFE best serves those kids who have a pretty extensive drug history and who have been to treatment and failed someplace else.  That is just my personal opinion, however.

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[ This Message was edited by: exsafecounselor on 2004-01-20 13:23 ]

Good point.  We were licensed and marketed ourselves as a drug rehab center.  Only kids with drug abuse problems were admitted.  In the 2 1/2 years I worked there, maybe 3 kids were not admitted after the evaluation period.  I think the point you are trying to make is that we took every kid for any reason.  Is that correct?  That is not the case.  One kid of those three, I vividly recall beacause he was mentally impaired well beyond the capabilites of our facility.  The rest were discharged becuase a DSM IV diagnosis could not be established.

I dont expect for people to have blind faith in anything I say.  I am more than happy to prove whatever I am able to prove.  Some things can not be proven.  For example, I can not prove that SAFE is not secretly receiving money from the government.  Despite the fact that I was in meetings that discussed money in detail.  Yet again, the person who stated this can not prove that it exists either.  I have been able to prove somethings however.  For example, one person questioned the credential that I and others had while I worked at SAFE.  I was easily able to prove that.  So all I have to say is challenge me and I will do my best.

Your comment is exactly why I left before.  You are more than happy to put words in my mouth, distort my statements, and misconstrue anything to serve your purpose.  We need to make a clear distinction in what we are talking about.  First, posting things on this forum is one thing.  Second, dealing with program parents and kids is another.  Regarding this forum, if all people are going to do is twist and manipulate what I write to fit their purpose, call me a child abuser, and be completely close minded then I am not interested.  Your foum will be pretty dull since only people like you will be posting.  I understand people's anger and lack of trust regarding people that worked at SAFE. Being skeptical is fine.  Being completely close minded is not.  I have learned some things from people on this forum that completely disagree me.  

Regarding dealing with people in the program at SAFE.  Parents and kids were not shunned for disagreeing.  They were educated, informed, and even confronted.  Exactly how they were dealt with depended upon the situation.  I would sometimes pull a kid out group and talk to them.  Sometimes, I would give them a pamphlet or book to read.  Sometimes I would have them congfronted in group.  It all depends.

I would love to join your group