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Maybe we survivors have a case after all.  :lol: Did anyone ever catch any diseases from spit therapy?

MG8



SAPULPA, Okla. (July 3) - A convicted rapist has been sentenced to life in prison for spitting on a police officer.

Creek County Associate District Judge April Sellers White followed the recommendation of a jury for the maximum sentence against John C. Marquez under a law that makes it a felony to place bodily fluids on law enforcement officers.

White rejected a prosecution request for a 25-year prison term and a defense request for a four-year term.

Following sentencing Monday, Marquez's attorney, Jason Serner, promised an appeal to the state Court of Criminal Appeals. No appeal had been filed by Thursday.

Marquez, 35, was convicted of hurling body fluids on Sapulpa Officer Charles Gadd while Gadd was taking Marquez to jail following a domestic disturbance in which a woman's arm was broken.

The 1996 state law that makes it a felony to place bodily fluids on law enforcement officers was enacted amid concerns that deadly diseases, such as AIDS, could be transmitted this way.

Gadd told the jury that Marquez spit on him despite being warned and then bit him when Gadd was trying to prevent Marquez from spitting again.

Gadd and Marquez tested negative for any communicable diseases.

The jury took 15 minutes on May 14 to recommend the life sentence. Marquez's prior felony convictions, including rape and burglary, were taken into consideration in determining the sentence.

In addition to the life term, Marquez received one year in jail and a $3,000 fine for his conviction for domestic assault and a $500 fine for resisting a peace officer.

Telephone calls to the judge, the prosecuting attorney and the defense attorney were not returned Thursday.

Would you be willing to explain to a judge there in Michigan that you support an abusive drug treatment program? Would you try to paint them as dedicated partners and tell the judge you support them? After all, you paid Pathway big money to abuse your child, right? Is the pride you feel from spending all that money and the idea that it was well spent blocking the light shining on facts about abuse there at Pathway? Have you ever thought: "I spent xxxxxx dollars, and it is all better now." "I couldn't have spent less and achieved the same or better results" "This mousetrap works like a charm, just look at how much money I spent, it was worth every penny."
All things considered, child abuse is a very serious issue with courts and the media.
You know the program has been determined to be abusive and you are still supporting, defending, and promoting it. Regardless of other treatment options, continuing to support Pathway Family Center is, in my opinion, not a good idea. I am still in the "advice to you" stage and would be happy to discuss the "big picture" with you. My treatment was over 20 years ago, no need to feel sorry for that now.

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TO THE ANONYMOUS HUGGER:

Watching clients in the bathroom was the reason why I had to hold my urine for 3 days. Back in the formative years of Pathway, ie STRAIGHT, INC., mind you, quite a bit of highly illegal, immoral, and otherwise plain outright criminal activities took place. Do you think for one moment that the kid you are allegedly illegally hosting in your home will kill themselves? Are you qualified as a psychiatrist to determine that? If you are so concerned about the safety of children with drug problems, behavior problems, etc etc... you will cease and desist your involvement with Pathway immediately. By allowing a program as abusive and as closely modeled to the STRAIGHT, INC. treatment model as it gets, these days, you may in fact be held liable for charges of child abuse among other things. Please understand that it may not be your fault in your mind, but in reality, Pathway is part of a BIG PROBLEM, not the solution!


MG8 :smokin:

I have yet to find a survivor that drinks the same name brand brewskie or alcoholic beverage. I prefer smirnoff ice, it is really easy to drink, :smokin:

TO THE ANONYMOUS PROJECT MANAGER:

  Before I go researching affordable non-abusive, legal and otherwise credible drug treatment for the rest of the world and the 6 of my drug free children, you will have to answer the questions I have posted in this topic and the one called "Kathy Row". Also, please identify yourself. I prefer two way streets.


MG8 :smokin:

Would a first phaser be able to ask his or her host parent what they think about all these wonderful changes? Would the same first phaser be able to read the newspaper that morning before going to the building? Would a relative of the host family be able to drink an alcoholic beverage while visiting during a holiday, while the first phaser was away at the building?
 
Here's the kicker-

Would the staff of the program there in either MI or IN allow me to interview a first phaser with no supervision in the room?

MG8 :smokin:

I was 39 when I told my kids, all 6 of them. We had discovered Wes's site and this one and it was only a matter of time before the kids saw the webpages popping up on the computers. One up for a midnite relief trip wondered why I was making wickedly styled heart logo drawings at 3AM while I couldnt sleep. Before then, I figured they didn't really need to know unless they asked how I met mommy. I suppose you could wait, totally ignore the subject, or come right out and tell them. I wouldn't worry too much either way. Our kids are much more aware of what constitutes abusive behavior now, kind of keeps me in check, you know... :smokin:

In my opinion, and hopefully in the opinions of drug treatment program regulators, the general public, victims of abuse, etc... Pathway is going to be simply nothing more than a historical reference to the epitomies of child abuse started long ago by Mel Sembler and his wife Betty when they opened STRAIGHT, INC. No matter how you euphemize Pathway, it will always be that spinoff from STRAIGHT, INC. If the people at Pathway were SO concerned with helping kids, then why do they charge money, and lots of it? Where does that money go? Money doesn't buy drug free kids. This is all going to come down to a point (among others) where the public will realize just how much programs like Pathway, Kids Helping Kids, and others, appear to be concerned more about how much they are getting paid than when kids get off drugs. They will also realize how much wool has been put over their eyes. Granted, some people just don't care. That's too bad. However, there are those of us who do care, and until these programs are closed, I for one will keep working to close them.


MG8 :smokin: