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"...and in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love that you make..." BEATLES

"If you think you're going through hell, keep going"  Winston Churchill

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Didn't mean to delete your "quote" at the top of my page.

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Thank you, the Sanskrit Proverb is one of my favs but it is also p.5 of Hazelden's "Twenty-Four Hours a Day", published by a "cult-catering" publishing company.

On 2004-11-09 05:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Speechless, eh?  I think you need to bone up on some facts. The "cause" as you put it is open discussion and  you just got nothing but a open meeting style testimonial to offer. Sorry your feelings are hurt or your hard wired story is challenged. Whatever it is that bugs you about this open discussion, if you are truly signing off... go in peace.





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GOOD GRIEF!!  Can we all not agree to disagree??  Obviously, our experiences WERE NOT the same.  I don't feel the need to slam anyone for their negative experiences or impact it had on ones life, family, etc., and empathize with those who still hurt and hold resentments.  

Hard-wired my ass!! I was provided "tools" for life which I use to this day and appreciate hanging w/ people who are positive, honest, loyal and not "full of shit" as so many people tend to be.  As the bumper stickers state "MEAN PEOPLE SUCK" and "TEACH PEACE".  Those of you still ranting about how the Seed f***** you up remind me of "Children of Adult Alcoholics" that can't find anyone to blame but their parents.

Look to this day,
For it is life,
The very life of life.
In its brief course lie all
The realities and verities of existence,
The bliss of growth,
The splendor of action,
The glory of power -

For yesterday is but a dream,
And tomorrow is only a vision,
But today, well lived,
Makes every yesterday a dream
  of happiness
And every tomorrow a vision of hope.

Look well, therefore, to this day.

Sanskrit Proverb

Cool - Hey, maybe we spoke in tongues together, hehe.

Back on topic, uh, yes!  No A/C in So Cal Residential Facility and many, many donations of food (daily), bedding and clothing (weekly) and even "slave-like" conditions. Residents were entirely self-sufficient; growing vegtables, cooking meals, answering phones, cleaning,  mentoring, etc.  The elders in the program received a monthly 'stipend' for their choress. It was all good and it worked!!  We have to learn to be selfless in order to enjoy giving.  

Yes - I was sticking my body w/ needles and saw the damage done - whatever it took!!

So what???  I was Assistant to the Regional Program Director of a highly acclaimed 'national' drug program and that's the way it goes...  Whatever grants don't cover, private donations and "chores" do.  I know very well how this works and understand there are those that get greedy and I really don't care.  I've been on both sides of that fence and know of too many success stories and a few not so successful.  The good outweighs the bad...so be it.

p.s.  I also enjoyed attending the 4-Corners Penecostal Church in St Pete from time to time.  It was amusing and uplifting.

Hey Marshall, thanks for the confirmation.  There's a new topic posted "Money" and I just responded to that.  I don't know if the intake counselors received commissions or not but might explain the difference.  I know that Suzy accepted me because she KNEW it was my "last stop".

The "gift" is something all of us are born with and can definitely be cultivated.  Our minds are so clogged with daily bullshit that we can't even realize other realms - much less live in them. It was a wonderful experience to be set free of the physical world and to know there are other plateaus we can reach.  While I remain very spiritual today, I am not religious. I live my life like any other human being  :nworthy: and find comfort in knowing this ISN'T all there is....