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Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 18, 2009, 08:41:17 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Use ajax's real name while saying he molests his son, and see what happens.

He couldnt sue anyway because if he tried then the authorities would have to investigate the allegations to prove validity and then after they talked to his son (without Ajax in the room) he would end up in jail when his son told the police what goes on at night.  So there would not be any lawsuit.  Thats why he is laying low on this one.

5492
Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 18, 2009, 08:35:27 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Use ajax's real name while saying he molests his son, and see what happens.

No one knows anyones name here.  We are only guessing that thewho is John Reuben.  No one knows for sure.

5493
Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Union and Kids Forever
« on: September 18, 2009, 08:14:52 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
So based on this law (below), Ajax13, you should be in jail.  Should we conclude that you are innocent since you are still running free or quilty because you havent been caught yet?

If I notify the authorities and 2 years later you are still not arrested what does that say?

Aggravated sexual abuse

How Current is This? (a) By Force or Threat.— Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly causes another person to engage in a sexual act—
(1) by using force against that other person; or
(2) by threatening or placing that other person in fear that any person will be subjected to death, serious bodily injury, or kidnapping;
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for any term of years or life, or both.
(b) By Other Means.— Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly—
(1) renders another person unconscious and thereby engages in a sexual act with that other person; or
(2) administers to another person by force or threat of force, or without the knowledge or permission of that person, a drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance and thereby—
(A) substantially impairs the ability of that other person to appraise or control conduct; and
(B) engages in a sexual act with that other person;
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for any term of years or life, or both.
(c) With Children.— Whoever crosses a State line with intent to engage in a sexual act with a person who has not attained the age of 12 years, or in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in a sexual act with another person who has not attained the age of 12 years, or knowingly engages in a sexual act under the circumstances described in subsections (a) and (b) with another person who has attained the age of 12 years but has not attained the age of 16 years (and is at least 4 years younger than the person so engaging), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not less than 30 years or for life. If the defendant has previously been convicted of another Federal offense under this subsection, or of a State offense that would have been an offense under either such provision had the offense occurred in a Federal prison, unless the death penalty is imposed, the defendant shall be sentenced to life in prison.
(d) State of Mind Proof Requirement.— In a prosecution under subsection (c) of this section, the Government need not prove that the defendant knew that the other person engaging in the sexual act had not attained the age of 12 years.

QFT

5494
Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 18, 2009, 08:12:52 PM »
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Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Ridiculous.  Even Ken fucking Huey posted here.  John IS posting here, formerly under the name TheWho, and now as an anon.  He will never confront anyone at this site, because to do so would be to admit he's TheWho and then there would be no deniability for TheWho's awful and stupid commentary here.  It would drive a stake thru the heart of his cash cow.  So he continues to post anon.  It ain't that deep.  If any of this was UNTRUE, he'd be suing, guaranteed.  Or at the very least denying.  That ain't happening.

So if you post something about someone here on the forum and it goes unchallenged then it becomes fact?  Hmmm.  So we can conclude that Ajax13 is guilty of abusing his son sexually as has been posted several times here.  He never denied any of the postings.  (We all assume it is true anyway, but since he never denied any of it we can conclude it is factual)

Thewho is a nice guy and tells the truth about everything.  So now we wait and if thewho doesnt deny this statement then it becomes factual.  Interesting rules.

So since Ajax hasnt tried to sue fornits its pretty clear that he has been abusing his kid sexually.  We all saw the postings and the laws.  Why would he just let it go like that without any denial if it were not true?
He is a sick person and he should be trying to get his son help instead of covering it up.  Does anyone know him?  Can they contact him directly and see if they could reason with him outside of this website?  At least try for the kids sake.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 18, 2009, 07:12:22 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Ridiculous.  Even Ken fucking Huey posted here.  John IS posting here, formerly under the name TheWho, and now as an anon.  He will never confront anyone at this site, because to do so would be to admit he's TheWho and then there would be no deniability for TheWho's awful and stupid commentary here.  It would drive a stake thru the heart of his cash cow.  So he continues to post anon.  It ain't that deep.  If any of this was UNTRUE, he'd be suing, guaranteed.  Or at the very least denying.  That ain't happening.

So if you post something about someone here on the forum and it goes unchallenged then it becomes fact?  Hmmm.  So we can conclude that Ajax13 is guilty of abusing his son sexually as has been posted several times here.  He never denied any of the postings.  (We all assume it is true anyway, but since he never denied any of it we can conclude it is factual)

Thewho is a nice guy and tells the truth about everything.  So now we wait and if thewho doesnt deny this statement then it becomes factual.  Interesting rules.

5496
Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 18, 2009, 03:44:21 PM »
Quote from: "Roob"
Quote from: "Guest"
He is smart by not posting here.  That would turn this place into a side show for sure!!  Lordy!!!!!!

Uh-huh.  That's one way of looking at it.   Another is that he lacks the clackers to address it without turning it into a side show.   Figure the latter.

There is nothing to address.  He never posted any info here or asked anyone their opinion.  There could be thousands of people talking about his business positive and negative.  We cant expect him to seek them all out and respond.

5497
Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 18, 2009, 02:14:34 PM »
He is smart by not posting here.  That would turn this place into a side show for sure!!  Lordy!!!!!!

5498
Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 18, 2009, 02:13:07 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
If this guy ever really shows up here he is going to wonder WTF is going on.  This is up to 15 pages and growing.

IF Reuben hasn't personally seen this thread his good friend Lon Woodbury has and informed him.  He's seen it, though, I emailed him about it at STICC when it started.  Hi John.  Ha, ha, ha.

He must be thinking WTF.

5499
Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 18, 2009, 01:34:30 PM »
If this guy ever really shows up here he is going to wonder WTF is going on.  This is up to 15 pages and growing.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: My son is currently at Aspen Ranch
« on: September 18, 2009, 01:28:22 PM »
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We already know that 99% of enrolled kids don't even STAY ALIVE after the program

Okay, I'll bite.  Show us the clinical peer reviewed study which backs up your statement.

Ouch, kind of hurts when its on the other foot doesnt it?

So while you are looking for that study the rest of us will get some real time information by talking to parents who have had kids finish the program.  This allows parents to ask questions and calm their fears about TBS's.

5501
Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Union and Kids Forever
« on: September 17, 2009, 10:32:12 PM »
One of Ajax's arguments:  "Why would someone who lives in Canada decide to get their degree in America?"  We have great schools here.  The guy must be corrupt orinsane to go to America to get his education.

For some reason Ajax thinks this is a big reason for not getting help at AARC.  This is the logic and facts he uses.

5502
Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Union and Kids Forever
« on: September 17, 2009, 10:18:15 PM »
Quote from: "ajax13"
The open nature of Fornits is what infuriates a Hasbaranik like you JD.  That's why you have to try to bury the facts.  But at the end of the day, you still killed your Kid, and anyone who is determined to know the truth can sort back through your chaff.  Imagine JD, a whole year gone by, and you're still not man enough to face up to making your son a burnt offering to Chuck Dederich.

See, when you run out of facts or dont have any you just insult people.  This is where you tilt your hand.  If you actually had a valid argument against Vause or myself you would use it.... but you dont.  You have not made any attempt to debate your position.

You say I bury the facts and I am willing to listen to you but you have not posted any yet.  Post a fact and we can discuss it.

5503
Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: September 17, 2009, 09:46:50 PM »
Quote from: "The Reu."
It's obvious John "thewho" D. Reuben is Lon Woodbury's boy and has been doing his bidding here, if Lon himself wasn't logging in as theWho.  Everybody noticed the weird "shifts" in theWho's style, maybe John and Lon shared duties logging in as theWho.  Everyone from STICC probably took turns logging in as theWho, and it explains why theWho's posts continued even on the days surrounding his son's death.

Either way, the conglomerate known as "theWho" was a piece of shit, and John D. Reuben is in denial over the utter failure of his son's program.  This is why he pushes programs so hard - he can't admit to his failure as a parent and the death surrounding his inept job of "fathering".  Fornits is Reuben's "whipping boy" because it's a constant reminder of his failure, the truth he doesn't want to hear and doesn't want anyone else to hear.  He has to believe programs work to keep his guilt from eating him alive.

Weak, pathetic, monstrous motherfucker, and he must be stopped.

That was a very interesting and revealing post, Ajax13.  A shrink would tell you that with all that passion and if you rearrange a few words you actually just described yourself and your reason for being here.

5504
Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Union and Kids Forever
« on: September 17, 2009, 09:00:34 PM »
So based on this law (below), Ajax13, you should be in jail.  Should we conclude that you are innocent since you are still running free or quilty because you havent been caught yet?

If I notify the authorities and 2 years later you are still not arrested what does that say?

Aggravated sexual abuse

How Current is This? (a) By Force or Threat.— Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly causes another person to engage in a sexual act—
(1) by using force against that other person; or
(2) by threatening or placing that other person in fear that any person will be subjected to death, serious bodily injury, or kidnapping;
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for any term of years or life, or both.
(b) By Other Means.— Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly—
(1) renders another person unconscious and thereby engages in a sexual act with that other person; or
(2) administers to another person by force or threat of force, or without the knowledge or permission of that person, a drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance and thereby—
(A) substantially impairs the ability of that other person to appraise or control conduct; and
(B) engages in a sexual act with that other person;
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for any term of years or life, or both.
(c) With Children.— Whoever crosses a State line with intent to engage in a sexual act with a person who has not attained the age of 12 years, or in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in a sexual act with another person who has not attained the age of 12 years, or knowingly engages in a sexual act under the circumstances described in subsections (a) and (b) with another person who has attained the age of 12 years but has not attained the age of 16 years (and is at least 4 years younger than the person so engaging), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not less than 30 years or for life. If the defendant has previously been convicted of another Federal offense under this subsection, or of a State offense that would have been an offense under either such provision had the offense occurred in a Federal prison, unless the death penalty is imposed, the defendant shall be sentenced to life in prison.
(d) State of Mind Proof Requirement.— In a prosecution under subsection (c) of this section, the Government need not prove that the defendant knew that the other person engaging in the sexual act had not attained the age of 12 years.

5505
Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Union and Kids Forever
« on: September 17, 2009, 08:59:13 PM »
Quote from: "ajax13"
JD, that law you keep posting is from the wrong country.  I didn't post a random law, I posted one from the province in which AARC operates.  People who want to know about AARC should be able to read the law and determine for themselves if they believe AARC is breaking the law.  You are very determined to keep people from easily reading the law, which is why you are posting an American law, and claiming that it pertains to me, providing some sort of information relative to AARC.  You're a kid-killin' Hasbaranik, and an ignorant, lazy one at that.  Playing the Hasbara game for B Mods isn't going to make your son any less dead, JD.

They should also be informed that the ministry feels that AARC is working within that law and not breaking it.  You have no proof that any laws are being broken.  The media doesnt side with you or agree with you based on their articles.  The government agencies didnt find any fault with AARC.  So you decide to just keep posting an obscure law over and over again with the intent of misleading the readers.

So if posting the law makes them guilty them you wont mind me posting the law which depicts your present predicament.  I am not trying to stop you from posting anything or the readers from reading your posts, just like I am sure you are not trying to stop my posts.
Its an open forum we both know that.

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