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I guess none-ya really is a dumbfuck.  He can't understand the difference between "hooter" and "Whooter".  Read much, none-ya?  Just kidding.



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Nice photoshop job, none-ya.  I'm not surprised at your dishonesty at all.  We just don't believe you though.  I hope you understand all your past lying makes you not credible anymore.



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But I know I completely failed her.

Look, marycarm, this is just not the case.  Your daughter is out of control and it's completely her fault.  This is why she needs to be removed from the family and put in a program that can help her.  This is not a case of family prblems, it's a case of your daughter being on the wrong path because of her choices.  She needs to be separated for one to two years to get herself together and get back on track.



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"It is a matter of when safety trumps privacy."

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This shows the fucked-up mentality of the anti-drug crusader, and, unfortunately, this attitude spills over into many different aspects of our culture today.  I'm not going to go into why this is fucked up.  It's self-evident; if you don't get it, you are part of the problem, just like Sue Scheff.

I didn't read anywhere that rules was talking about drugs, RTP2003.  You made that part up.  rules is just trying to add some balance to the discussion, now that he's not a moderator he can express his true pro-program feelings.  He has always defended the industry but when he was a moderator the admins made him stay on the sidelines.  Now he's free to support programs out in the open which I applaud.



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none-ya stop sending threatening personal messages to my facebook account or I will report you.  This is my last warning.

I've never sent you or your brother anything on facebook. In fact I never use it. If somebody is using my moniker,it should be easy enough to trace. Besides you know that's never been my style. Since every one here (or at least a lot of you) have re-named yourselves,your individual styles remain intact. So I don't care how many phoney ip's or fake sockpuppet names you hide behind. I have saved every pm that I've sent or received since joining here. Again, this sould be easy enough to check.
Especially for  an ex- moderator.

Oh cry me a river, none-ya.  You sent threats and gay porn pictures.  That's wrong and disgusting.



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Whooter..Where in the world has the pope declared and the Catholics declared that they have accepted homosexuality? That is incorrect info..sorry Whooter try again!

The pope was born in like 1920.  If they told him what was going on he would have a heart attack.

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More and more accepted by this world eh? Is that why when I tried to turn to survivors for support - people that were friends of mine for years about the harsh break-up from myself and my partner I was treated just so nicely here? Is that why I had a str8 friend think I was coming onto her when I called her babe b/c she felt sick? Wow Wake up Whooter....WOW is that why kids are committing suicide because us homosexuals are so well and widely accepted. Please quit talking about what you do not know.
I am an adult  bi-sexual and still not accepted and loved by many b/c I am gay. I speak from experience , not speculation.
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I didnt say that homosexuals are completely accepted in society.  I am saying (from my perspective) that their acceptance has come a long way since the 1960's and in another generation they will be almost completely integrated and accepted.  Back in the 1960's the word Gay was a slur.  They were not accepted at all and were referred to as fruit cakes or as a  birth defect of some type.  They would marry woman and have kids because that was what was accepted of men in those days.  They started having sex with each other in San Fransisco which caused the Aids Virus which proved that homosexuality was unnatural and needed to be treated like a disease.

People are still curious about homosexuals today and what makes them tick.  But they are much more open now and accepted in the business world and society in general.  Straight kids and homosexuals commit suicide, maybe not at the same rate.  Parents are more accepting of gay children than 50 years ago but they would still prefer a straight child over a gay one I would guess and that is why the kids are not open to telling their parents that they are gay and feel much more humiliated if they are outed on the internet like what happened recently.  If this were a straight kid he may still feel humiliated knowing his family may be seeing it but it would pale in comparison to a child who was having a homosexual relationship.

I didnt see you being treated badly because of your sexual orientation here on fornits.  People are treated badly here in general.  I am not gay but I am treated pretty bad at times.



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This is one of the smartest things ever said on Fornits.  You people should learn from this man.

Thank you, SUCK_IT.  Some people have a hard time understanding how unnatural it is to be gay.  Look, it's not natural.[/i]  Many programs have components to deal with gay kids and straighten them out.  It has a huge benefit to society.  If there were no gays, the Aids Virus would never have been created.  Finally now we have some programs to help.



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"In 2004, when I found out Michael had drug problems, I founded Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative to help disadvantaged youths participate in programs too expensive for them."

John, when you discovered Mike had a drug problem, instead of founding STICC to help other kids, you should have supported your son by getting him medically-based treatment for his drug problem.  Why would anyone faced with this situation start a business instead of focusing on their own child's problem?  Don't you see that your refusal to get directly involved in Mike's life is what drove him to drugs in the first place?  Then your solution to this was to have him locked up instead of put into scientifically proven therapy?

John, is this one of the "STICCy results that last a lifetime"?  I guess it is if "lifetime" means "22 years."

This marketing spin makes me nauseous.  We're talking about HUMAN BEINGS here, John.  I know the conscienceless, like yourself, see children as commodities, but this is WAY out of line.  You disgust me, sir.

Of course you are nauseous.  That is because you are weak and lack foresight like most people. See the problem is you miss the bigger picture.  You think small and think problems can be solved by hugging people.  People and kids dont need hugs they need solutions, they need to know someone is in control and can make them feel safe.  Most parents jump in and try to save their child by getting involved in their lives.  But the truth is it is too late at this point to save them by this approach because they have traveled too far down the path.  The parents should have been more involved all along.  So instead of taking the road everyone else was taking another option was to start a business around the problem.  This way you not only get help for your child but you find you are able to raise money for other kids to be placed and after the smoke settles 2 things occur:

1.   It doesn’t cost a dime for treatment and
2.    You can actually reverse the flow and have a few coins end up back in your pocket to boot.

You need to always keep a level head and look for opportunity when others are panicking.  This is key and is the Hallmark of successful people.  Whenever something is going terribly bad try to think about how you can profit by it and turn it around into something good.  I have always been a firm believer that there exists a silver lining in every situation.  It is our jobs to find it and utilize it or someone else will.

As far as trying to find something scientifically proven, that is hogwash.  By the time any good set of studies are completed the treatment is outdated and people have moved on to something more "leading edge".  Hell they still cant figure out how bees fly but that doesnt prevent us from enjoying the honey.

Let's be honest, people.  These programs are very profitable.  Why you get upset that I make money is beyond me.  I don't begrudge you your living. lol  Your lives went down the toilet and made programs necessary.  Just because I choose to turn that need into a great living doesn't give you the right to lie about me all the time.



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All done Whootie. Now Anne is still waiting on you to answer her question. Why did you lie and claim she had been placed in straight for having 'unprotected sex'?

Anne and I already spoke via PM's.
 You should PM her if you would like the details.



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No response, Bruce? lol  That's what I thought.  Anne and I worked it all out and she now agrees with me that she needed to be sent to Straight because of her promiscuity.



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