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An open discussion about the troubled parent industry

On 2006-01-17 19:46:00, corecrash wrote:

 I would think it very rare that a straight A student without a trace of defiant behavior would find themselves in a behavior modification facility. Maybe it is not rare.

Trust me, its not.  I was in the same place as Antigen and I'd say that the majority (98%) were pretty typical teens that were unlucky enough to have parents that bought into the whole fear mongering bullshit that was thrown at them.  Facts are, yes FACTS, that most kids will grow out of whatever behavior is freaking out the grown-ups.  I was told that all my pre-program friends were the unlucky ones who's parents didn't care enough about them to put them somewhere where they could get the "help" they needed.  All those kids were gonna DIE without the programs divine intervention.  They're all fine and I'm stuck with nightmares and a family that has been in shambles for over 20 years (my parents and myself.....my husband and kids are fine now that I got them away from the lunatic fringe).  You can't even yet fathom the damage you're doing to the relationship between you and your son.

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.  
-- Hunter S. Thompson

One of my favorites!  :lol:  Here's one version, there were a few variations.




Anger Management

When you occasionally have a really bad day, and you just need to take it out on someone, don't take it out on someone you know, take it out on someone you don't know. I was sitting at my desk when I remembered a phone call I'd forgotten to make. I found the number and dialed it.

A man answered, saying "Hello."

I politely said, "This is Chris. Could I please speak with Robin Carter?"

Suddenly the phone was slammed down on me. I couldn't believe that anyone could be so rude.

I tracked down Robin's correct number and called her. I had transposed the last two digits of her phone number. After hanging up with her, I decided to call the 'wrong' number again. When the same guy answered the phone, I yelled, "You're an asshole!" and hung up.

I wrote his number down with the word 'asshole' next to it, and put it in my desk drawer. Every couple of weeks, when I was paying bills or had a really bad day, I'd call him up and yell, "You're an asshole!"

It always cheered me up.

When Caller ID came to our area, I thought my therapeutic 'asshole' calling would have to stop. So, I called his number and said, "Hi, this is John Smith from the telephone company. I'm calling to see if you're familiar with our Caller ID Program?" He yelled "NO!" and slammed down the phone. I quickly called him back and said, "That's because you're an asshole!"

One day I was at the store, getting ready to pull into a parking spot.

Some guy in a black BMW cut me off and pulled into the spot I had patiently waited for. I hit the horn and yelled that I'd been waiting for that spot.

The idiot ignored me. I noticed a "For Sale" sign in his car window, so I wrote down his number.

A couple of days later, right after calling the first asshole (I had his number on speed dial,) I thought that I'd better call the BMW asshole, too.

I said, "Is this the man with the black BMW for sale?"

"Yes, It is."

"Can you tell me where I can see it?"

"Yes, I live at 1802 West 34th Street. It's a yellow house, and the car's parked right out in front."

"What's your name?" I asked.

"My name is Don Hansen," he said.

"When's a good time to catch you, Don?"

"I'm home every evening after five."

"Listen, Don, can I tell you something?"

"Yes?"

"Don, you're an asshole." Then I hung up, and added his number to my speed dial, too. Now, when I had a problem, I had two assholes to call.

Then I came up with an idea. I called Asshole #1. "Hello."

"You're an asshole!" (But I didn't hang up.)

"Are you still there?" he asked.

"Yeah," I said.

"Stop calling me," he screamed.

"Make me," I said.

"Who are you?" he asked.

"My name is Don Hansen."

"Yeah? Where do you live?"

"Asshole, I live at 1802 West 34th Street, a yellow house, with my black Beamer parked in front."

He said, "I'm coming over right now, Don. And you had better start saying your prayers."

I said, "Yeah, like I'm really scared, asshole." Then I called Asshole #2. "Hello?" he said.

"Hello, asshole," I said.

He yelled, "If I ever find out who you are..."

"You'll what?" I said.

"I'll kick your ass," he exclaimed.

I answered, "Well, asshole, here's your chance. I'm coming over right now."

Then I hung up and immediately called the police, saying that I lived at 1802 West 34th Street, and that I was on my way over there to kill my gay lover.

Then I called Channel 13 News about the gang war going down on West 34th Street.

I quickly got into my car and headed over to 34th street.

There I saw two assholes beating the crap out of each other in front of six squad cars, a police helicopter and a news crew.

NOW I feel much better. You know, this anger management stuff really works.

Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul alike.
-- John Muir

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--John F. Kennedy, U.S. President

On 2006-01-17 12:17:00, corecrash wrote:

 I know that my son can now move on with his life if he chooses too.

He always could.  You just allowed people to fuck with his mind so it may take him a while to figure things out.  And watch out when he DOES understand exactly what was done to him.  It ain't gonna be pretty.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
--Albert Einstein

You mean what DID I do?  I have two kids who are thankfully coming out of the teen years now.  Had one kid who did a shitload of Ecstacy, cocaine and a miriade of other drugs, stayed gone from home for days, was completely argumentative and angry to the point where she would pick fights with her sister and then take a baseball bat to her sister's room.

In the first place I always talked honestly with my kids.  I didn't throw a bunch of hype and propoganda about drug use at them.  I didn't freak out when they started to experiment with different substances.  I understood that rebellion and extremely poor decision making are a part of growing up.  A very important part not to be skipped.  Once she started having to answer for her actions she began to grow up and out of the idiotic behavior.  I was really scared for a while but I knew that doing nothing was FAR superior to sending her away somewhere.

Do you realize that people come out of prison and instiutions with aids, drug problems, sexual problems etc.. ?

Dude, do you realize that kids come out of programs far more likely to get in worse trouble than before they went in?  Do you realize that all those things you described above can and do happen in programs?  Speaking as a program vet, I would MUCH rather have been in some kind of juvenile detention than where I was.  At least I would have had some rights in juvy.  My ex-husband has been to prison and was in a program and says HANDS DOWN he was abused far more in the program than in prison.  He was there for about 5 years, the program for a little over 2.

Infidel: In New York, one who does not believe in the Christian religion; in Constantinople, one who does.
--Ambrose Bierce

On 2006-01-17 11:29:00, corecrash wrote:

"You still have not shared what abuse you endured at Anchor or the other facility. You also have not shared what actions you committed that made your parents believe you should be there.

Are you talking to me or Antigen?

I disillusioned by people that blame everyone else for their problems and will not lift a finger to better themselves.

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I'm disillusioned by people who send their kids away to be raised by strangers.   :roll:

He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
--Albert Einstein

On 2006-01-17 08:50:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

"Anyone out there that has the time, energy, and knowledge of the WWASP family tree to edjucate fool?

More.... http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/2620

Behavior Modification Money Trail
by Michelle Chen (bio)  

Government connections enable ?teen help? industry to thwart regulation.

This sidebar is associated with a full-length feature article, At Some Youth ?Treatment? Facilities, ?Tough Love? Takes Brutal Forms.


The controversial world of youth behavior-modification facilities intersects with a web of intricate political connections. And where the treatment industry sees cooperation with government entities, activists warn, these links could cloud the prospects for public oversight of the "teen-help" market.

The influence of the behavior-modification industry is felt on Capitol Hill. Four members of the House of Representatives and one senator serve as honorary board members of Kids Helping Kids, a company with corporate links to a now-defunct behavior-modification program for teen drug users known as Straight Incorporated. The various franchises of that program dissolved in the early 1990s following allegations of child abuse, as well as criticism for using cruel, prisoner-of-war-style brainwashing techniques on adolescents.

Watchdog groups report that Straight Inc. has since morphed into the Drug Free America Foundation, a conservative anti-drug advocacy group. The co-founder, Mel Sembler, is a longtime Republican Party donor and fundraiser who served as ambassador to Italy for the current administration and ambassador to Australia under George H.W. Bush.

The connections are even more direct on the state level. Earlier this year in Montana, a landmark bill to impose regulatory guidelines on adolescent residential treatment facilities was squelched by a powerful lobbying campaign from private service providers. Proposed partially in response to reports of abuse and deaths in some treatment programs, the bill would have authorized the state Department of Health and Human Services to monitor private behavior-modification programs. According to government estimates, Montana contains over two dozen of these institutions, ranging from "wilderness"-based programs to disciplinary boarding academies.

To eclipse the bill, private treatment companies pushed their own legislation, which would effectively place regulatory authority not with the health department but with a five-member board under the Department of Labor. Three of the board?s members are representatives of the teen treatment industry, including state Representative Paul Clark, who directs a local therapeutic wilderness program. The bill, which was recently approved by the legislature, requests no public funding and specifically exempts church-affiliated and "faith-based" programs.

According to state records, Spring Creek Lodge, an affiliate of World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS), spent over $50,000 on lobbying activities to help push the bill through the legislature.

In Utah, the WWASPS name is prominently linked to the Republican Party. The Salt Lake City Tribune reported that between 2002 and 2004, WWASPS founder Robert Lichfield, his family, and business associates have contributed a total of more than $1 million to Republican candidates and party organizations ? a financial push that coincided with the killing of a 2004 initiative in the state legislature to regulate teen residential treatment facilities.

Charles Huffine, an adolescent psychiatrist who has joined other mental health professionals in urging stronger oversight of residential treatment facilities, is wary of attempts by industry interests to co-opt the regulatory process. "It?s the fox-guarding-the-chicken-coop kind of thing," he remarked.

But rather than a conflict of interest, some in the teen help industry see a healthy partnership with officials. In interviews with The NewStandard, WWASPS representatives described a good working relationship between their enterprises and the agencies charged with checking up on them, like state departments of education and, at Tranquility Bay in Jamaica, the United States Embassy.

"I?m all for law enforcement," said WWASPS President Ken Kay. "I think all of our schools work closely with law enforcement and would welcome their visit every day."
 

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