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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / G.T. Now
« on: September 09, 2005, 12:11:00 AM »
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On 2005-09-08 19:46:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:

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]yup...right again...it seems like you could use some "therapy" as uptight as you are! relax...it'll be ok! :wave: "




I'm uptight??  Baby please!  You're the one with nothing to say other than "Ayup...worked for me."  It's not me holding on to some doctrine with no proof.



Hey, Darren, we've been going at this a long time.  Feel free to call me Sara.  :wink:
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sara...sweety please...i AM the proof...all the proof I need! GRRR your are a smarmy one tonight!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Growing Together has moved
« on: September 08, 2005, 10:47:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-07 20:16:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:

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wooohoooo!!!! not as special as you!!! :silly: "




Oh, well now that would be a special guest appearance.  I wonder who would have a better turn out... you and your friends or me with mine?   :rofl: "
probably you and your "friends"...i hear that the obsessed freaks are quite popular these days! :grin:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / G.T. Now
« on: September 08, 2005, 10:45:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-07 21:40:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

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On 2005-09-07 19:08:00, dbucfan wrote:


"sounds like you are saying that there is no doubt that a child that has been put through a program will hate their parents...you did say definately...well...i dont hate my parents. My parents didnt fail. They gave a shit. So to all the doom and gloom naysayers yes...once again i will say it... IT WORKED FOR SOME PEOPLE!!!


like me! :wave: "




So, the abuse 'works' for some people? You heard of the analogy that if a kid goes to a program with a cold, the cold goes away on its own... that the program can and will take credit for it, right? Most people that are in a program are in so long, and in that time of their life, that they simply GROW UP and the program takes credit!



And if youve been indoctrinated to think the program is the cure for all ills, you will too!



Tell me, just what about it works? What did it do to help you? How does the therapy work? What are their methods? Got any details at all?



Any?  :roll:

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
--Anonymous

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So if you were not abused while attending the program, you were mindfucked and cannot have benefited even if the life you lead currently shows otherwise. ok...riiiggghhhtt.
and when did anyone say the program was a cure for "all" ills?
to answer your questions...
dont know just did.

brought me closer to my family and made me appreciate them a helluva lot more than i did

not sure how it works but it did.

talking, building relationships with my peers in a peer only environment,strip away the BS then build me back up...if i remember correctly.

no...not many details.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / G.T. Now
« on: September 08, 2005, 10:35:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-07 21:42:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:

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Yes helena fulloshit...EVERY child is abused in the program and EVERY child has faced indignities. Bullshit!!! Stop generalizing!!! every child does NOT got through those horrible abuses. :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Growing Together has moved
« on: September 07, 2005, 10:13:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-07 16:46:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:

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On 2005-09-07 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:


"They now are at 2129 Congress ave Riviera Beach"





Maybe Darren can go visit now... be a special guest on a Friday night?   :silly:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / G.T. Now
« on: September 07, 2005, 10:11:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-07 16:35:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:

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On 2005-09-07 14:52:00, Desperate wrote:


"I presently have a child in GT and I put my child in this program to save their life. It was only a matter of time to where my child would be dead. My child was completely out of control.




...and what exactly is "completely out of control"??



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With all due respect to this forum all that is said is what abuse these kids go thru, nothing is mentioned the abuse their parents endured to resort to such drastic measures.




So, you've endured such abuses such as strip searches, restraint without reason and indignaties such as having someone watch you change your feminine hygeine appliances?  Been denied food?  



What abuses have you endured?



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Yes privaledges are taken away and everything must be earned back BUT what is so wrong with that?"




So, relieving yourself and showering in private is a privelege?   Being able to know that natural disaster has occurred is a privelege?  (This is going on the assumption that your kid is a lower phaser, and is not allowed any mention of current events - no news from the outside world so they "can focus on themselves")



Also, assuming your kid is a lower phaser, and thus not allowed to attend school - Education is a privelege to be earned?  



Yes, I sound angry, because I am.  I really hope you will explain how any of this helps??"
Yes helena fulloshit...EVERY child is abused in the program and EVERY child has faced indignities. Bullshit!!! Stop generalizing!!! every child does NOT got through those horrible abuses. :roll:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / G.T. Now
« on: September 07, 2005, 10:08:00 PM »
sounds like you are saying that there is no doubt that a child that has been put through a program will hate their parents...you did say definately...well...i dont hate my parents. My parents didnt fail. They gave a shit. So to all the doom and gloom naysayers yes...once again i will say it... IT WORKED FOR SOME PEOPLE!!!
like me! :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Growing Together has moved
« on: September 05, 2005, 10:28:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-23 13:24:00, DOC SLOW wrote:

"I found out last week that "Growing Together " has moved out of their Banana Yellow digs in Lantana Florida and moved up to West Palm Beach. I will try to nail down an actual physical address for them and post it as well. they can run, but they can't hide.

The optimist thinks that this is the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist knows it.
--  J. Robert Oppenheimer

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go get em slow doc!!! :roll:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / G.T. Now
« on: September 05, 2005, 10:26:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-31 08:43:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

""DeadInsaneJail," typical sales tool of the program.



Did you ever stop to think about how the program works?  The methods used are proven by decades of research to be ineffective at behavior change and much research shows them to be harmful to the developing mind.



Whether you'd like to admit it or not, the "program" is likely to cause more harm to your child than the behavior for which she/he was sent there to address.



You're not the first, and certainly won't be the last...There's a sucker born every minute.
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:rofl:  :rofl:  :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Anyone see Montel today?
« on: June 08, 2005, 07:08:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-07 19:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-06-07 16:02:00, dbucfan wrote:


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On 2005-06-06 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:



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On 2005-05-30 22:14:00, Anonymous wrote:





Just to clarify...I was in life for about three months...maybe more before we moved to STEP."










Who is this anon that was in LIFE and then went to STEP?"




sorry forgot to login...it was me."




Do you remember many of the staff that was at STEP?  I always wondered what happened to Tracey Perez and Lisa Weinfurter?"

Tracy-no i really have no idea where she went to. Lisa- i had heard that she got married and had a child but nothing more than that...this info was told to me by Chandra Beatty a few years ago.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Growing Together
« on: June 07, 2005, 07:41:00 PM »
Thats horrible! that place SHOULD be shut down!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Anyone see Montel today?
« on: June 07, 2005, 07:06:00 PM »
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On 2005-05-31 17:47:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-05-31 17:38:00, Antigen wrote:


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On 2005-05-31 15:24:00, Anonymous wrote:




  yes ginger    you would know, being that you were at ALL these programs.



 



  as far as ignorance is bliss, well, I guess YOU WOULD know that."







I believe the people who were there and I know something of the people who ran the place and a bit about their spin off, Growing Together. I know how they operate in just the same way I know that, somewhere, a kid is getting beat into a gang and a politician is screwing some hooker, compliments of some lobbiest.





As for your ignorance, well you said it! You're happy you didn't see what was going on. Ok, I believe you. But why hang out here if you don't want to know?


There never was a good war or a bad peace.


--Benjamin Franklin, (1773)



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  why hang out here?  it's kind of like watching a train wreck -   sad, but hard to turn away"
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Anyone see Montel today?
« on: June 07, 2005, 07:02:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-06 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-05-30 22:14:00, Anonymous wrote:



Just to clarify...I was in life for about three months...maybe more before we moved to STEP."




Who is this anon that was in LIFE and then went to STEP?"

sorry forgot to login...it was me.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Anyone see Montel today?
« on: May 31, 2005, 03:28:00 PM »
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On 2005-05-31 07:39:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-05-30 14:44:00, dbucfan wrote:


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On 2005-05-30 01:37:00, rez1990 wrote:



"i dont think darren was in life..i remeber the beatings and giving them. "










Uhh...stop trying to "think" I was in life before you were...intake was in late 88...I 7th stepped in 1990 from STEP in Tampa.


Noone was beat in my presence while i was there unless they misbehaved by attacking someone in group...then they were taken down by the 5th phasers which always made me smile. just seeing the attackers get taken down made my day!"




You are twisted.  There were very few people who acted up so badly that they needed to be "taken down".  What is wrong with you that you would find that funny? Furthermore it shouldn't be up to a bunch of 15 and 16 year olds to take anyone down.  Did you ever have to really restrain anyone?  It made me feel horrible.  I hated it.  The only reason why I did it was so I wouldn't get in trouble.  "
Your right...there werent many but the ones i saw being "handled" were usually the bullies that picked on people or strted fights...i never witnessed a person just sitting in group be beaten for nothing...i AM glad i never saw that or maybe i would feel a bit more venomous  about the program .

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Anyone see Montel today?
« on: May 30, 2005, 05:44:00 PM »
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On 2005-05-30 01:37:00, rez1990 wrote:

"i dont think darren was in life..i remeber the beatings and giving them. "



Uhh...stop trying to "think" I was in life before you were...intake was in late 88...I 7th stepped in 1990 from STEP in Tampa.
Noone was beat in my presence while i was there unless they misbehaved by attacking someone in group...then they were taken down by the 5th phasers which always made me smile. just seeing the attackers get taken down made my day!

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