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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / HLA Testimonials
« on: October 22, 2006, 02:25:06 PM »
Pat wasn't in STARS, Phoenix, but not STARS.
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Cow- what happened to Pat? What was the cause of death? Did you know Max kutch at HLA? Or Chad Wallace?
I see a lot of accusations on this website but most of these posters are listed as guest or use pseudonyms. If you have valid complaints, wouldn?t they have more impact if you identified yourself and gave verifiable proof of your accusations?
You are being very naive. A child should be kept OUT of the legal system by any means. If you think being in a juvenile detention facility is preferable to a therapeutic school, you are gravely mistaken. The teen is exposed to hardened criminals, gets worthless education and loses all hope for higher level post-high school education. You may try to claim this happens at a teen help school, but it is simply not even in the same league.
If I were Cowdude, I would not have posted this conversation with this woman because it makes him look like a stupid and immature little kid. She absolutely slaughtered him. I'm sure she expected him to put the text on this site, which is why she even engaged with him. Also, if you follow the thread, the reply of "That's right" referred to the fact that her son lost a year of his life, not to the fact that she "made him that way".
Cowdude, I assume you are slinking away with your tail between your legs. I gather you weren't on the debate team at school. Boy, did you get hammered.
It's easy to pick on Karen or any other program parent, but when I read things like the IM exchange I have to laugh at how clueless some of you are. "Be his parent" and all that horseshit about being better at hiding the car keys or whatever.
I am totally opposed to BM programs and I advocate community-based therapy that keeps families together. But I can appreciate that some families find themselves in a seemingly impossible situation and they don't know what to do.
I don't know about Karen's situation, but some parents have a teen that is quite literally terrorizing the family. Don't tell me you believe that "be a parent" and "listen to him" is going to solve anything. By "terrorizing," I don't mean normal shit like smoking pot, banging his girlfriend, skipping school and being a general shit to his parents. I'm talking real juvenile delinquent stuff -- stealing cash, jewelry, and other valuables from parents and siblings, stealing and wrecking cars, shoplifting, DUI, selling drugs from his parents house, etc.
Some "troubled teens" really are out of control. Some parents would rather not intentionally get the cops involved, although juvi is probably a better place than any BM program. Criticize the parents all you want, but I don't hear a lot of good suggestions for parents whose kids are hard-core delinquents.
QuoteThe thing is, my lawyer advised me not to...
If you seriously have your own lawyer, you should be listening to him a hell of a lot more than to us. I retract my statement about naming names in public. Name the names to HIM and let him do the suing.