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I was there in 90. I saw one kid get pulled out by his dad after he spent months in the corner. The poor bastard. He could hardly walk when he left. He was kept in the stairway leading up to the mens dorms in 3. A small dark dreary place to be kept huh? He was either refused showers or he refused to take them but all I know is that he was one stinky kid. I actually clapped when I saw him leave. I was happy he was leaving. A little rough around the edges from when he entered mind you.
 The kid that smashed Tanya's oinker stayed on. He was not even arrested. Nothing. I guess it all depended on your status. Probation/parole or not. Very few if any were there in lieu of jail when I was there.
 I remember one girl who was like 15. She was about 5 months pregnant. She was threatened to be sent to a juvenile detention center and would have her kid taken away from her if she refused the abortion. She was to far along for an abortion. If she was under 13 weeks pregnant then fine but damn with medical care that baby in her belly could survive if it was born at the point along she was.

 It was sickening what they did to her. They had other girls who had kids or abortions "coach" her into getting an abortion. A girl I know in the group was mad at herself for encouraging the abortion.
 Everyone was under 17 it was like they had no choice in the matter.
In the long run she got the abortion. She was so sad and sick for a long time. I don't think she smiled again for a few months.
A few years later I got the entire story from my friend who was in the group and who went with her to the clinic. There were protestors and the whole 9 yards. Poor girl. It was something like you would see on a "Lifetime Channel" movie.
I heard she has a beautifull child now. Bless her soul.
Elan was so cruel to people.
It seems like people were a little older in the early Elan days. When I was there there was like 1 or 2 18 year olds and less than 5 17 year olds. Everyone was so damned young.

Those asshole directors took a personal hatred in teen pregnancy, probably because most of them were steriel and couldn't make babies, so they took out their frustrations on people that could. Like I stated, they couldn't make it in the real world, that is why they work were they work.

Thanks for sharing your story, I thought what I witnessed *A teen getting pregnant and being forced to abort their unborn child* would be a one time isolated incident at Elan. I wonder how many more Girls got pregnant while @ Elan, and the negative pressure to get their unborn children aborted by the Idiot directors :question:

I was asked by the directors/staff if I was upset or jealous when one of my peers moved up and I was still behind in posistion. At times I was. They would go out together to the movies and there I was left behind. Like I said at times it did suck.
As long as I was not shotdown I was cool. I could read and draw and smoke. I was a-ok. I would whip out my bullshit chore and sit back and chill. I would write notes in my own "language" about everyone and everything I saw. My idea of fun I guess. Whatever got you by right?
 It was Elan after all. I had to do what I had to like everyone else did what they felt they had to. Be it right or wrong. We were kids after all we did not know all the answers back in the day.
 I never did INTENTIONALLY hurt anyone in my house. I don't speak for others. I think some of them people were truly sadistic suck up bastards. IMHO.
Out of all of my peer I was hands down the biggest fuck up of all time!
When I got home and started hooking up with everyone again I was floored when they would show up and were fucked up 10 different ways from Sunday. You name it they did it or became it. I was a fucking angel in comparison. Almost.
Graduating from that dump did not mean you would be set for life. Life is life. Elan only taught me how fucking cruel people could be in "real" life. How dog eat dog the world truly was. A lesson I did not want nor need to learn BEFORE the age of 17.  
I am sad for everyone exposed to Elan. Sad. Truly sad.

That place was nothing but a way for them to milk the shit out of insurance companies/school districts. They billed your family outrageous amounts of money, for the cheapest hygiene products money can buy. Elan is a scam IMO.
And for the Idiots who come here and brag about *How they got an Elan Diploma* Who the fuck cares :exclaim:

I was gave the same song and dance by the directors before I signed out. Oh you will fail in life, you dont have the tools to succeed in life, yadda yadda yadda. Well I happened to turn out to be pretty damn successful if I do say so myself. I built a business from the ground up, own 2 homes and take pride and do quality work for all my clients.

Elan and their loser wannabe therapists are total Idiots and couldn't make it in the real world. That is why they had no choice but to stay up there and seek employment with Elan, because nobody else would hire them. Especially Kruglik :exclaim:

They feel inferior to people their own ages and cannot look them in the eye, so what is the remedy for them :question:  Work at Elan and abuse children as young as 12 years old. Nice fuckin life guys, we are all so real proud of you Inferior under achievers.

That must make you feel real big and bad, to make a young child stand up in front of the house and scream and yell at them and make them cry. You better hope that it doesnt come back to haunt you one day, because what comes around, goes around, take your stupid new resident plaques and shove them deep inside your asses. Fuck you Elan and your stupid philosophies.

Well I had seem some pretty fucked up shit BUT never seem anyone kicked out, There was one girl there she was so awfull that she was kept in a closet for months on end her and and empty mattress the P.O.  that would sit in the door 24-7 I offten wonder what ever happened to her. But even with that she was not kicked out,,,

When I first got to Elan they say *Its the last program and you cannot be kicked out*. Well during my 8-9 month stay I have seen 6 people kicked out. People that were in the corner and defying the program all the way through, so yes one can be kicked out.

Elan will try to tolerate as much as they can, and continue to do so.
But after months of being in the corner, or commiting a serious violation, people were kicked out.

Some of the reasons vary, but I recall some instances. One teen knocked a chick up and she refused to get an abortion, A huge GM was even held over this because she wanted to keep her child. Gottlieb & Kruglick painted a picture of her as a whore. They even tried to make her wear a sign that read something like this: *Please confront me as to why I am a whore and why I refuse to terminate a pregnancy by mistake* Real fuckin cruel IMO. I later heard from an old peer that the 2 of them got married and raised their Son.

Another person was kicked out for assaulting a staff member, and was removed from Elan via the police and was sent to prison. He was @ Elan as an alternative to prison and I guess the *Self proclaimed therapists* that worked @ Elan had Zero tolerance because of his violent back ground.

Others were kicked out for continous breaking cardinal rules *having sex*, and one for running away from Elan one too many times.

So the answer to the question is Yes, one can be kicked out of Elan.
Whether or not it is still happening in todays Elan, thats a question I couldn't answer. But as far as in 87-88 people were kicked out.

How typical.
A new topic started, and  ::crybaby:: Arthur ::crybaby::  come's in and what does he talk about :question:  :question:  :question:
P-E-N-I-S
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Every fuckin topic, he talks about penis in some form of way.


Would you please come out of the closet already???

I think  ::crybaby:: Arthur ::crybaby::  is trying to tell us something.
*Perhaps partially copping to his guilt*
I'll look into any alleged molestations in the IL area that occured in museums.

 It is very common for children in Elementary schools to go to Museums on feild trips during school hours. Perhaps this pediphilia Troll executes molestations at these particular events :question:  :question:

We all read on this site about his non stop talk of cock-sucking, shit-eating and other sick  *twisted* habits. And then try to blame it on others. Since this Troll has no real friends in life, he substitutes Fornits as a scapegoat for a friend.
This Troll needs to be incarcerated in a mental institution and heavily dosed with physcotropic drugs.

Poor children that live in his neighborhood, they must be terrified knowing that a person like this lives near them. Hopefully a concerned parent will step up to the plate and do something about this sick, pediphiliac Troll.

haha

ive conclued there is a maximum of 4 or five people besides you and me posting on this board. am i close? SOUND OFF!!!

Well there is at least 4-5 people mentioned as  ::crybaby:: Arthur ::crybaby::  Nemises here, I guess I make 6. Talk about a man without a Country?? 2 Trolls trying to fight off the 6 of us :question:  I dont see light at the end of the tunnel for either Troll.

Troll  ::crybaby:: Arthur ::crybaby::
Troll jimmy

You boys havent a chance..You can say all the serenity prayers in the world, it won't help you one damn bit!!

I guess now that you have figured out that fecal matter posts make you look dumber than you actually are,its art that has posted all that
Now that IS funny dave
Funny thing... all this crap you write about him and others is not true
But all our collective conclusions about you are are based on what you write/post.Hey guess what.Each and every person here is certain you are disturbed,whacked,broken,fucked up,tore up from the floor up,too high to qualify
i think you are actually gettin the picture

What a small world it is..I too share the same opinions as Arts Nemises do..Matter of fact I think every thing that was said about  ::crybaby:: Arthur ::crybaby:: is true, and others seem to share the same beliefs.
*disturbed,whacked,broken,fucked up* AND *pediphile, gay, disgusting,ugly, probably smelly, fat bastard, crooked teeth, matted hair,bottom feeding, TROLL, &::crybaby:: sums up  ::crybaby:: Arthur ::crybaby:: life. And lets no forget his AA sponser and big brother Jimbo, who always comes to the aide of one  ::crybaby:: Arthur ::crybaby::

You're a man without a Country here Troll..Sorry but imaginary friends do not count.

This Troll has  abad addiction, not only to alcohol, but to this web board.

Be gone Troll! I command ye to Vanish from this board for ever!!

My attorney advised me that you can technically copyright these names if we so choose, now I have to just come up with a good one...

ARTHUR

 :rofl:  ::rocker::