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Give me a break and quit being so melodramatic.

Cayo,
You are laughable.  Everything is about ulterior motives.  I really didn't come here and post with this in mind.  Yes, that is what it has turned into, but not my intention.
Again, there you go with your conspiracy theories!

Thats it.  Do you people  think that I have not done my own investigating of GT?  I looked long and hard.  I dug into it using the net and speaking to many people in the field of addiction.  REAL PROFESSIONALS.  I was pointed to GT.  yes I investigated.  I know that there is no Utopia.  I know that not everything is what it seems.  But you must understand, I have done my homework.  I have read this board for months without posting.  I have investigated what has been said for months.  You name me anything that you actually know about that would show me you are right.  Not the psycho-babble you spew.  Not about the harm of brainwashing.  These kids are in my home almost every night.  i love them.  They are all individuals.  You people are insane.  I wouldn't post previous to this because i recognized your anger.  i suppose i should not have posted knowing where it would end.
Please get yourselves some real help before it is too late.

I did not insult you, i merely stated the facts.  You are talking about situations that happened to you 20-30 years ago, I am talking about my experience which is right now.  You ahve no idea what you are talking about.  For every kid that ever had a bad experience with you I can show you a kid that will say it wasn't so bad.  So yes, you are a fraud and yes your argument is bogus, because your argument is ancient history.  And when I talked about name calling, well I didn't see anything like that in my previous posts.  I am not mean-spirited.  
Just because I was trying to tell you that they don't drink the kool-aid anymore, you guys attacked me.

Sara,
What am I clueless about?  I am a grown man with many years of recovery, good knowledge about addiction and experienced with one of your so-called cults.  Because I do not agree with you has nothing to do with me sticking my head in the sand.  When is the last time, how many years has it been since you were involved in your program?  How do you know that you are so right and I am so wrong?

Cayo,
You missed the point, all you want to do is battle.  I feel for you, but you just seem so angry.  If you are so angry about things that I have said, then you must know that you have a problem which needs resolving and it IS NOT PRESENT DAY GT!

Cayo,
I would expect nothing less from you than what you said.  You have met my expectations.
Sara,
As i said in my origional post, I would appreciate comments, not you all telling me that I was making this huge fucking mistake.  Some conversation.  The strangeness that i refer to is the kids singing children songs, and them starting meetings from the beginning if someone acts out.  I have no beef with GT or the "strangness" that is associated with it, because I think it works.  It has helped my daughter.  She was as advanced in her addiction as anyone could be at her age.  Whether you believe in adiction as a disease or not, I do.

Man Greg, you and Sara and Cayo are real big jackasses.  Greg, I feel sorry for you.  To have been put in a treatment center and not being an addict, by parents that I'm sure had absolutely no reason to put you there.  Sara, I feel sorry for you because you are just so fucking smart that you are on a different planet, like YourAnus.  Cayo, you are just plain stupid, and have a very well rounded vocabulary that is so bitter with your own life that you would hope that we all were as unhappy as you, but then again I can say that about all 3 of you.
I feel like I came here to talk about GT...NOW nad you people friggin attack me.  Its ok because I know you are all sick.