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The answer:

http://home.comcast.net/~d.a.n/OneSimpleIdea.htm

-enjoy!

Wish I could be there, but alas, I'm a poor college student in Texas, and can't get there from here!

Patriot,
I will publically apologise, It was not you who PM'd my with horrid insults...it was "Southern Boy".  Sorry, I had my wires crossed.  

I can certainly agree to disagree with you without name calling.  I do wonder though, how informed you are, and where you get your information?  

I spend considerable time checking out both sides of the propaganda.  In fact, I just got booted from the "freerepublic" blog for voicing my opinions.  Typical of the Bush followers.  They couldn't stand to have the oposing view out there for everyone to read.

I believe that things are headed in a disasterous direction for this country.  I am active in changing that.  I feel that Americans are truly good people, and want to be Proud.  It is hard to criticize your leadership, when you are a Proud American.  Yet, I think if you'll look at both sides from a realistic, not fanatical view...you cannot help but realize that we are losing our American Values.  They are standing on a platform of "morality" based on Some idealogical Christian high ground that has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ.  

They are controlling the media, BTW, if you watch closely, you will note that CNN is becoming more FOX like.  That has to do with the fact that Malone is now the secong highest share holder of the Murdoch FOX empire.  There is a merger in the future between FOX and CNN.  Murdogch is 78 years old now, his three sons can't possibly compete with Malone, the other mogul.  The people are bieng mislead, and they follow, like good little sheep.  It is time for America to take this country back from the Coorporate corruption that owns damn near EVERYTHING!!!

I disagree with your views, and I still think you are a Patriotic American.  I hope that you will take it upon yourself to look at some other sources for your information.  Information is power, and the TV won't give it to you.

Try:  http://www.truthout.org  or
http://www.yellowtimes.org

You cannot make informed decisions with only the information that is presented readily by the mainstream media.  Best of luck.  

Sorry for misplacing my comments that were meant for "Southern Boy".

I think the coexistence of Capitalism and Democracy in one Nation is inherently catastrophic.  Capitalism promotes greed and corruption.  Have you looked into the http://www.parecon.org website?  It's pretty interesting stuff.  

Currently, the only realistic obstacle to the current state of affairs that I can imagine is the unification of third parties.  Beyond that:  Civil War.  Things aren't looking too good for the home front.  We are busy importing our brand of "democracy" and freedom to the eternally warring middle east while things at home, within this very nation are like a pressure cooker, waiting to explode.  The revolution will be on the internet.  Both sides are working it pretty hard.  The liberals are on top of things, but there are considerably more conservative leaning blogs on the net.  

It would be interesting to see what develops if Howard Dean becomes Chair of the DNC.  He may have enough charisma to energize the Dems, but he's a huge target for Rove (Geobbles) propaganda.   I have a feeling that Dark Days are approaching the land of the psuedo-free!

So....what the fuck can the People do to protect their votes.  Ban electronic voting?  Demand a paper copy?  What.  More and more states are moving to electronic voting machines and away from paper ballots.  How can we solve this one?  Democracy as we know it is a joke.  How can we allow private coorporations to tally the votes when they have such a vested interest in who wins!  GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!  "Give me somethin' to BREAK!"

If anyone listening out here is interested in, or part of and third party movement, I urge you to start talking now about uniting to endorse one and only one Presidential Candidate in 2008.  It's clear that the duopoly of the Republicrats is not interested in the welfare of the American People.  If the Third parties can swollow their pride, and make some compromises, they may stand a realistic chance at the Presidency.  They will at least be able to give the Republocraps a run for their money.  They have nothing to lose.  Third parties can still run their own party candidates in all other office elections.  They stand no chance at the Presidency when they are divided, yet there is strength in unification.  With the endorsement of major third parties, one candidate would almost certainly pull a major percentage of Independant voters who tend to vote for change anyway.  

United We Stand:  Divided We Fall!

Anon hit the nail on the head.  All those who are wrapped up in our wonderfully self-riteous society will be miserable when the great American crash happens.  It's gonna suck if you're not part of the Economically Elite, and invested overseas.  All those who voted to keep Mr. Bush and pals in power will live to regret it; not that Kerry presented a great alternative, though I think he was clearly wiser, and probably more caring about the American people.  Bush is not only fucking us currently, but the next generations as well.  I guess he has a different version of the "seven generations" philosophy!

Dunnno what the problem was, but when last I checked, chomsky's site was back up.

http://www.chomsky.info