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I have looked for stuff about LIFE for a long time and could never find anything.  I saw a few articles about Helen Peterman but nothing directly about LIFE.  I have rarely met anyone from there so it is almost like it didn't exist.  I will say that the picture of the building on the website was enough to make me nauseous and have a nightmare about being trapped in the Rez.  I will not be going to the reunion."

Trapped in the rez?  I don't remember that term.  Hey - when I went back, it looked like they built some buildings in the back - was that like a residential dorm?  Is that what you're talking about?  Eeeek - I don't know which would be worse, personally - some oldcomer's houses or locked in the Peterman Penitentiary.
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What's happened to this thread?  It's a mess!  

... and I ain't just talkin' 'bout the conversation if ya know what I mean!   ::noway::   Bad news.

On 2004-05-29 19:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Don't know who he is, but God Bless Robert Minton for putting up the $2 mil to keep this case from ending up dead in the water.  



So who is this Minton fellow, besides a chief critic of Scientology?  



If he is a "good guy" maybe he has some spare cash he wouldn't mind using to help Bradbury and other high-profile cases involving survivors of treatment center abuse?



Money does talk ..."

Sadly, yes it does.  But I think we're still talking apples and oranges here.  Richard Bradbury is still alive to fight - Lisa McPhearson isn't.

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"If you always do what you've always done, you always get what you always got"[ This Message was edited by: Sara-1984 on 2004-05-30 14:32 ]

How SICK is it when blatant negligence that leads to a needless death can be dismissed with an "undetermined" amount of cash?   :flame:  :flame:  :flame:

On 2004-05-29 13:04:00, GregFL wrote:

"Interesting thing is that there are two Jerry Vancil's listed in Yahoo search, both living out west,  and no other mention of his disapprearance on the web other than fornits or straight related sites.



Anyone up for calling the numbers and finding out if it is him?





916-989-4100



or



503-588-1131



Keep in mind if these people aren't him, that doesn't necessarily mean he is no longer with us he may just have an unlisted number.



I sure would need more information before I bought into this whole conspiracy theory.



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I'm always up for a challenge.  But if it were you, and some stranger called and asked your connection to STRAIGHT, would you own up to it... assuming you're in hiding?

Before I go off on another news archive search - WHERE have I heard that name before?  Was this guy in the news?

((And to the Anonymous poster from earlier:  that boy who did a stint of 19 years; hasn't he gotten his money yet for false imprisonment and all the other shit that goes with it ?  Did the president in office at the time declare a state of emergency and also declare an official War on Murderers ?  Warttime Reparations, PUHHleaze ?!?

Dude.  You get your  ::bangin:: Straight first before you step.))

That was me - connectivity probs kept logging me off I suppose.  I don't post anonomously on purpose.

And yeah - as far as I know, murder is the top crime in this country next to treason.  I don't know if there's been an official declaration of war on murderers - so?  I don't get your point.

The point I was trying to make is that WE as a collective Society of Seed/Straight/Legacy program Survivors were not physically or geographically imprisoned for 20+ years.  The memories are horrible.  There are people suffering with a post traumatic stress disorder to this day - but can we liken our experience with those of the soldiers in WWII (when it was called 'Shell Shock') or VietNam (when PTSD was coined)?  I think not.  I think it's an entirely different species.

I say that because I know there have been deaths within these programs.  I know there have been moments when some of us thought we were going to die - serious stuff.  It DOES in some ways parallel that of wrongly convicted felons in penitentiaries and soldiers who witnessed horrible acts of war.  But we have it a little better, I think.

Unlike the soldiers, the majority of us did not live in fear of being killed.  Unlike the prisoners held on a bogus murder charge - we knew it was only a matter of time til that magic birthday rolled around.

But the memories and the nightmares and the exaggerated startle reflexes continued on into our late 20's and 30's.... somewhat akin to the soldiers and the the falsely accused.

Yes - I can see where we have some commonalities.  But leave "War Time Reparations" to those who went to war.  Don't equate the few years you were made to live in false confinement to that of someone who lived in false confinement three times as long.  

Give credit where credit is due.  Respect our soldiers.  Respect our people who have lost a lifetime on the inside.  And still respect yourself.

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Is this supposed to be a reply to another thread?  I haven't found it yet!   ::

You're not talking about the Eckerd camps are you?