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Open Free for All / Re: Status Elan 2010
« on: March 25, 2011, 09:59:55 AM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
Listen up you stupid lonely fuckface.
You have no idea who I am or what I do. None Ya transgressions what I am a child. Trust me pal I have no guilt about anything I have done here as a matter of fact.  I have always been a great guy and always will be.
 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
Taking Waynes story on the chin you just don't know and will never know. I sleep great with my honey right beside me. (Insert deluxe blow up doll) :nods:
Just so you know maybe 2 weeks ago I had several members from this site on my boat in Florida, We had a great time.
None ya grow up this stupid little world you play around in here is not real. It is a message board with conversation at times.
My transgressions.... :rofl:
What a fucking whackjob.

Oh and tell your new friend Art, I don't talk to counter clerks who work at a junk yard. Tell the ??? to step up a little if he wants to talk with me.

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Elan School / Mikes Boarding School Story -Elan
« on: March 25, 2011, 12:23:00 AM »
Mikes Boarding School Story -Elan

http://http://redbarradio.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7e61183853c87cd06c4849a679492664&topic=596.0

Part One is how he got himself sent to Elan.

This is great he goes into a lot of detail  :rofl:

All parts 1-4 listed here.

http://http://redbarradio.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0

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Let It Bleed / Re: The Lyrics thread
« on: March 24, 2011, 09:36:34 PM »
It's time to take your last walk in this world before your journey begins underground.
Not before we torment you from your cell straight to hell with a short detour in-between.
Begging for mercy all alone, unable to handle the pressure.
Before his mortification!
Now let the torture begin!

Death by the head crusher
Head crusher!
Death by the head crusher!

The horrific torture device for those who fail interrogation,
The most painful technique ever known,
People thirst for the worst, the skulls disintegration.
Beaten, broken, in bloody rags
Adding insult to injury, he recants
But it's much too late.
Now let the torture begin!

Death by the head crusher
Head crusher!
Death by the head crusher!

On your knees, prisoner, take your position
Place your chin forward into the restraint
Your head slowly caves in from the compression
You fade in a blackout from the infernal pain

Twisting, turning the giant screw
Your teeth are breaking loose
Crushed and splintering into your mouth

Winding down, cutting through
Like broken glass being chewed
The fragmented skull and shattering bones

There's nothing you can do. :shamrock:  :nods:

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Elan School / Re: Elan will be officially closed as of 4/1/11
« on: March 24, 2011, 05:05:37 PM »
:rasta:
Here is the updated version starring Matt Hoffman
Elan School closing due to low numbers, negative Web campaign
By Judith Meyer, Managing Editor/days
Published Mar 24, 2011 12:00 am | Last updated Mar 24, 2011 10:19 am
http://http://www.sunjournal.com/city/story/1004724

POLAND — The controversial Elan School for troubled teens will close on April 1.

The private, for-profit boarding school has been forced to close, according to owner and Executive Director Sharon Terry of Casco, due to “declining enrollment and resulting financial difficulties.”

The school, which overlooks Upper Range Pond, was opened in 1970 by a psychiatrist, Dr. Gerald Davidson, and businessman Joseph Ricci.

Terry, who is Ricci’s widow, points to an ongoing Internet campaign launched by an unknown person who goes by the name "Gzasmyhero," as the cause for much of the school’s financial distress.

The ongoing Web campaign alleges the school engages in punitive tactics, like isolating students for long periods, requiring students to scream at other students as part of the disciplinary program, routinely humiliating and restraining students and limiting teens’ contact with their parents.

“The school has been the target of harsh and false attacks spread over the Internet with the avowed purpose of forcing the school to close,” Terry said in a faxed letter to the Sun Journal. And, despite several investigations conducted by the Maine Department of Education that Terry said have vindicated the school, “the school has, unfortunately, been unable to survive the damage.”

According to “Gzasmyhero,” he (or she) was sent to the Elan School in 1998 at the age of 16.

The Internet poster asserts that, while there may be some truly troubled and perhaps criminal students at the school, they did not make up the majority of the student population. The Web campaign describes the students as “normal kids, many whom may have smoked a joint or two, or who swore at their parents,” and did not or do not deserve the intensity of discipline and programming they were and still are subjected to at the Poland school.

The most visible negative Web campaign was launched about three months ago by "Gzasmyhero," who argued, “I believe that the internet is our #1 tool for exposing these horrid blind spots (at the school) for what they are.”

A number of other active online sites focus on Elan, including chats on fornits.com and multiple Facebook pages. At ElanAlum.org, former students have more complimentary things to say about their years at Elan; at elanschool.org, derogatory posts discourage parents from enrolling their children.

Elan staff acknowledge that the students who attend the rural school are seriously troubled teens who have often been forced out of a number of other schools, a kind of last resort for desperate parents who want to change their children’s behavior.

According to the school’s website, the staff specializes in treating troubled youths who exhibit behavior problems in school, refuse to obey authority figures, have difficulty accepting responsibility, have poor self-esteem and exhibit oppositional behavior such as temper tantrums and mood swings. The school also specializes in treating academic underachievers and teens with mild-to-moderate learning disabilities.

On March 1, Elan received a renewed academic accreditation and therapeutic certification from the National Independent Private Schools Association that is set to expire in June 2014. The school is also a member in good standing of the Maryland-based National Association of Therapeutic Schools and Programs.

The school, which charges annual fees of $54,960 for tuition, room, board and special services, accepts troubled teens in grades eight through 12 to participate in a 24- to 30-month program designed to modify behavior. The school offers SAT preparation as part of its college preparatory curriculum, but Web campaign contributors suggest the educational components of the school’s program are a farce and not designed to prepare teens for college.

Despite the intensity of the Web campaign and the decision to close, Terry said she has fond memories and great pride of the work done during her 34 years at the school.

“I will miss very much working with the students and, perhaps most of all, attending graduations, where regularly they gave fresh proof that, put simply, Elan saved lives,” Terry said.

The student-to-teacher ratio at Elan is currently 1:6, and students are evaluated for admission based on academic records and behavior assessments. School staff also interview parents as part of the admissions procedure.

According to an Elan School news release, the school is in the second year of using the “Handle with Care” behavior intervention method created in 1973 for use in a psychiatric intensive care unit at Pennsylvania Hospital. The method employs less restrictive physical restraints and more calming verbal skills than have been routine at the school in past years, and is considered safer management for teens in crisis. Much of the material posted by the "Gzasmyhero" Web campaign pre-dates the change in programming at the school.

Leni Webber of Newtonville, Mass., whose son has been a student at Elan for the past 18 months, posted a comment on the school’s public blog praising the school and its programming.

She described her son as depressed and defiant when he arrived on campus, but “at this point he is an honor roll student (and) has been a part of a state championship x-country track team.” According to Webber, who declined to talk about the school’s closing Wednesday, her son is now looking toward college, something she credits to the “remarkable program at the Elan School.”

Former student Matt Hoffman, who boarded at Elan between 1974 and 1976, had nothing good to say about the program Wednesday, calling the campus a “sadistic, brutal, violent, soul-eating hellhole.”
 :cheers:
Hoffman, who now lives in Richmond, Va., and is a self-employed handyman, vividly remembers restraints and routine humiliation, and something he said the staff called “cowboy kick-ass,” a disciplinary process of pushing students into walls in multiple rooms to the point of bruising.

During his time at Elan, Hoffman attempted suicide and stabbed another student. He described the environment as one of abusive, negative peer pressure, not positive peer pressure.

In recent years, Hoffman has been working with other former students to raise public awareness about the school’s programming, hoping to close it down. Now that the school is closing, Hoffman said, “I’m not euphoric, but I feel good. I feel real good.”

One former student and active blogger, Peter Moore of Connecticut, hopes to organize a quick class reunion at the campus before the school closes.

Former Elan students — those who harbor animosity toward the staff and those who don’t — have generated active social networking contacts in recent years to talk about their experiences at the school. Moore hopes to reach out through those networks to organize student visits to Poland.

He acknowledged there is a great difference of opinion among Elan’s graduates regarding the methods used at the school, with some students saying the treatment turned them around and traumatized others for life. “They’re on either extreme,” he said. No middle ground.

In 1975, according to Associated Press reports, the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services removed 11 students from Elan, stating the children were being mentally and physically abused. Ricci called the allegations slanderous and threatened to file suit against the Illinois agency. At least three of the children later returned to the school. A Maine Department of Health and Welfare investigation found no evidence the Elan students had been abused.

In the years since, there have been ongoing reports of abuse at the school, including accusations by officials in New York and Massachusetts, plus books and online posts by former students critical of the school’s treatment methods.

Despite the school’s history of complaints and accusations, Terry said she is proud of Elan’s “wonderful and caring staff, which has improved our program over the years (and) has done extraordinary work. I hope they will continue to lend their exceptional gifts to the field of special education.”

Perhaps the school's most notorious student was Michael C. Skakel, nephew of Robert Kennedy's widow, Ethel Skakel Kennedy.

Skakel was convicted in 2002 of the murder in 1975 of 15-year-old Martha Moxley. Both lived in an exclusive section of Greenwich, Conn., where she was found beaten to death with a golf club.

While always a suspect in the Moxley murder, Skakel wasn't arrested until years later when two of his former classmates at the Elan school testified that he had confessed to them while at the school.

Elan classmate Gregory Coleman testified that Skakel bragged, "I'm going to get away with murder. I'm a Kennedy."

During the trial, Ricci defended the school’s practices as unconventional but effective.

Ricci told The Boston Globe, ''These are not your typical public school kids. …Their parents bring them here to succeed when everything else has failed.''

The goal, he said, is to persuade adrift and often-dangerous teens to accept responsibility for their actions. That goal is reached often, Ricci said.

During a reasonable cause hearing in the Skakel case, witnesses testified that Skakel was pummeled by classmates, forced to wear a sign that linked him to Moxley's murder and humiliated by wearing a 5-foot dunce cap at the 200-student school, according to the Globe.

Skakel had been sent to the school in 1978 after a drunken-driving conviction. He was there for two years.

Skakel is serving a 20-year prison sentence in Connecticut and will be eligible for parole in 2013.

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News Items / Connecticut Welfare System
« on: March 13, 2011, 07:26:59 PM »
Billion Dollar Drug Company Law Firm Restructures Connecticut Welfare System

http://http://www.opednews.com/articles/Billion-Dollar-Drug-Compan-by-ROBERT-FIDDAMAN-110310-185.html
By ROBERT FIDDAMAN

For some time now, Sheila Matthews has been suspicious about her home state of Connecticut's treatment of its most vulnerable children. As a mother of two children and co-founder of Ablechild, her instincts led her to scrutinize the dubious relationships among Connecticut's Department of Children and Family Services [DCF], the pharmaceutical industry, and a billion dollar law firm that has defended the likes of Pfizer Inc and Merck & Co., among others.

Sheila's investigation has led her on a journey that links a non-profit children's advocacy group, with assets over $15 million [2009], with nationally-renowned mass tort and class action defense law firms, to the Connecticut DCF - an $865 million bureaucracy, as described by the Connecticut Mirror.

The Connecticut DCF serves approximately 36,000 children and 16,000 families across its four Mandate Areas:

1.Child welfare;
2.Children's behavioral health;
3.Juvenile Services; and
4.Prevention.

Sheila's Ablechild has been questioning the Connecticut DCF since 2003, when Ablechild demanded that the Connecticut DCF immediately ban the use of the antidepressant Paxil in its treatment of mental disorders after multiple studies confirmed Paxil increased the risk of suicide in children and adolescents. This was more than a year prior to America's Food & Drug Association (FDA) announcement that all antidepressants, including Paxil, should bear a black box warning regarding this suicide risk. Ablechild was disturbed that children in state custody were being prescribed this dangerous psychotropic medication. Ablechild's public pressure paid off, and the Connecticut DCF deemed Paxil unsafe for children and adolescents, and according to the DCF drug approval list, Paxil has not been approved for use in over eight (8) years.

In August 2003, less than one month later, Ablechild reported that the commissioner of the Connecticut DCF held a 'behind closed doors' meeting with Glaxo officials. This meeting was reported by the Associated Press, which wrote:


The maker of the anti-depressant Paxil plans to meet this week with Connecticut officials, weeks after the State stopped using the drug to treat young people in its care.

GlaxoSmithKline, a British pharmaceutical company, is sending its regional medical director and a medical team to meet with officials from the Department of Children and Families. [Source]

Despite repeated requests from Ablechild, the Connecticut DCF refused to inform the public what was discussed at this secret meeting.

Eight years later, Sheila and Ablechild continue to raise concerns and investigate potential wrongdoings and conflicts within the Connecticut DCF. Last month, in February 2011, Sheila attended a meeting sponsored by the Connecticut Behavioral Health Partnership [CBHP], where its medical director, Dr Steven Kant, presented the Husky Behavioral Pharmacy Data. The CBHP is a state vendor that provides mental health services to DCF children. These services are paid, in part, by the State-run insurance program, HUSKY. Incredibly the pharmacy data presentation showed that dangerous psychotropic drugs like Paxil are still being prescribed to thousands of children and adolescents. In fact, the Pharmacy Data presentation showed that the HUSKY program, financed by taxpayer dollars, paid drug companies over $60 million for psychotropic drugs for Connecticut's children and adolescents in 2009 alone -- many of which are not approved by the FDA for use in the pediatric population, and all of which carry the most serious warning possible regarding the risk of suicide.

According to the pharmacy data presentation: [Which can be downloaded as a Powerpoint presentation HERE]


More than 50% of HUSKY Youth Behavioral med users are on stimulants.
Close to 30% of HUSKY Youth Behavioral med users are on anti-psychotics.

The pharmacy data also revealed the following:

Most Frequently Used Behavioral Meds for DCF-Involved Youth

Medications for ADHD:

Ritalin (10%)

Adderall (5%)

Vyvanse (4%)

Strattera (3%)


Atypical Antipsychotics:

Abilify (11%)

Risperdol (10%)

Seroquel (8%)


Anti-anxiety:

Hydroxyzine (2.5%)


Antidepressants:

Prozac (4.5%)

Zoloft (4%)

Zyban (3%)

Desyrel (2.5%)

Celexa (2%)


Mood Stabilizers:

Lithum (3%)

Depakote (3%)

Lamictal (2.5%)


Curiously, none of the above medications are on the Connecticut DCF list of approved/unapproved drugs listed in its DCF PMAC document.

With this in mind, Sheila Matthews contacted Dr Steven Kant and inquired as to whether any of the above drugs were approved by the Connecticut DCF for use in children.

Dr Kant replied:

... the answer to your question is not that straight forward.. . . Medications may be indicated by age and/or by specific treatment needs so it is not either a simply "yes" or "no." Also, some medications may have the age indication but for a totally different condition, such as anti epileptic condition...  Also FDA indications are static; they do not change over time though medical practice is constantly evolving...

Contradicting the very document that lists Connecticut's approved and unapproved drugs, a "check-off" list that verifies the status of medications, Dr Kant replied, "I don't think a "check off" for each medication would work in terms of verifying their status."

With such an ambiguous response from Dr. Kant, we found the DCF Approved Medication List on the Internet. This particular version was revised in 2009.

It appears that the DCF has approved drugs for children that have not been approved for children by the FDA. In fact, the FDA has issued multiple advisories and alerts since 2004 about the increased risk of suicide in children, adolescents, and young adults up to age 25 who are treated with psychotropic medications.

And while Fluoxetine (Prozac) is the only medication approved by the FDA for use in treating depression in children ages 8 and older, it still carries a black box warning regarding the risk of suicide.

In contrast, the DCF seems to be ignoring the conclusions of the FDA. Its list of approved medication for children and adolescents includes every single antidepressant except paroxetine [Paxil] and venlafaxine [Effexor].

Forest Lab's citalopram [Celexa] - APPROVED

Forest Lab's escitalopram [Lexapro] - APPROVED

Solvay Pharmaceuticals' fluvoxamine [Luvox] - APPROVED

Pfizer's sertraline [Zoloft] - APPROVED

GlaxoSmithKline's bupropion [Wellbutrin -also marketed as an anti-smoking cessation drug under the name of Zyban] - APPROVED [1]

Alarmingly, the DCF has produced a guide entitled, "MEDICATIONS USED FOR BEHAVIORAL & EMOTIONAL DISORDERS - A GUIDE FOR PARENTS, FOSTER PARENTS, FAMILIES, YOUTH, CAREGIVERS, GUARDIANS, AND SOCIAL WORKERS" in which it writes, "Most of the side effects from the medications are mild and will lessen or go away after the first few weeks of treatment." The guide also points out possible side effects of SSRIs/SNRIs:

SSRIs and SNRIs:

Headache
Nervousness
Nausea
Insomnia
Weight Loss

One of the most dangerous side effects of these medications, suicidal thoughts/ideation, doesn't even make the 5 bullet-pointed list. The Guide does, however, add the following: "Watch for worsening of depression and thoughts about suicide."

The DCF Approved Medication List writes:
"The DCF Approved Medication List is a list of psychotropic medications that has been carefully established by the Psychotropic Medication Advisory Committee, a group of DCF and community professionals."

Sheila has since investigated other advocacy groups that were concerned about the off-label prescribing of psychiatric medications to youths in state custody. This is where she stumbled upon Children's Rights, a non-profit charity based in New York City.

In 2005, Children's Rights employed ten (10) attorneys and a staff of 31. It claims to use its expertise to change child welfare red tape and scrutinize failing systems. If the child welfare system fails to respond, Children's Rights files a lawsuit. If successful, it enforces reform and then monitors its implementation.

In 1989, Children's Rights had in fact filed a suit against William O'Neill and the Connecticut State Department of Children and Youth Services [DCYS].

The suit charged that an overworked and underfunded DCYS failed to provide services, including abuse and neglect investigations, adoption, foster care, mental health care, caseloads, and staffing. The case has been pending for over twenty (20) years, and while there have been numerous arguments that DCYS should be more inclusive or has failed to provide certain services, the issue of massive off-label prescription of psychotropic medications has never been brought to the court's attention.

Children's Rights is chaired by Alan C Myers, a partner at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher and Flom, a billion dollar law firm which represents the pharmaceutical industry in mass torts and class actions. Myers is also co-head of the firm's REIT Group [Real Estate Investment Trust].

Also, listed on the Children's Rights website are individuals and law firms that have served as co-counsel on Children's Rights' legal campaigns to reform America's failing child welfare systems, including:

Missouri - Shook Hardy & Bacon - Eli Lilly Co. and Forest Labs, defended the original Wesbeker Prozac trial in Kentucky and still defend Prozac, Celexa and Lexapro.

New Jersey - Drinker Biddle & Reath - GlaxoSmithKline attorneys - defended Paxil as local counsel in Philadelphia cases.

Oklahoma - Kaye Scholer LLP - provides work in Pharmaceutical Products Liability defense and employs an attorney who was former General Counsel of Pfizer, Inc.

A particular success for Skadden Arps occurred in 2010 when it secured a summary judgement ruling for Pfizer Inc. in a suit filed by two insurance companies who sought $200 million in damages for Pfizer's predecessors alleged "off-label" marketing of its epilepsy drug, Neurontin.

Furthermore, in February 2011, Skadden Arps secured the dismissal of over 200 cases in a multi-district litigation pending against their client, Pfizer Inc. The plaintiffs had alleged injuries related to the use of Pfizer's anti-epilepsy drug, Neurontin.

Neurontin (the generic version is called gabapentin) is prescribed by psychiatrists for a variety of "off-label" indications. It is often tried as an alternative treatment when patients are unable to tolerate the side effects of more proven mood stabilizers such as lithium. [2]

Gabapentin has also been associated with an increased risk of suicidal acts or violent deaths.

This is a drug that has been known to cause behavioral problems, which include unstable emotions, hostility, aggression, hyperactivity, or lack of concentration.

Children dependent on child welfare systems have rights, and, according to its web page, Children's Rights is dedicated to protecting them.

It should come as no surprise that the site fails to discuss the off-label prescription of non-approved psychotropic medications to children and adolescents, unless this falls under the 'abuse and neglect' category?

If Children's Rights' motive was to accomplish fixing the child welfare system, then why hasn't it investigated why thousands of children under state care are prescribed "off-label" psychiatric drugs? With a partner in a billion dollar pro-pharmaceutical law firm as its Chair, and supporters who also defend pharmaceutical products, is it safe to assume that its stance on the drugging of children is one that is being ignored?

Children's Rights push to remove abused and neglected children into safety.

The basic question always comes down to trust. When power, money, and a good cause are mixed, it is imperative to check motives. We would be less of a society if we didn't check out all the facts. Abuse and neglect exist, always have and always will, but society is obligated to ensure those victims are not transformed into "good cause victims" and expensed out. There is no doubt we have a right to question the system and those who claim to promote change for the good of the children within it.

Children's Rights Chairman, Alan C. Myers, Medical Director of Connecticut Behavioral Health Partnership, Steven Kant, and the Connecticut Department of Children and Families may get their knickers in a twist with regard to an advocate of Ablechild and a blogger from Birmingham, UK questioning their motives, but hey, what's the downside of shinning a light on all these players, be they good or bad players?

Sheila's concern is that Children's Rights with its multi-million dollar budget and with the help of its billion dollar law firms, will continue to ignore the risks of these unapproved and dangerous medications under the guise of helping our nation's most vulnerable children. The question remains: how can the lawyers who defend pscyhotropic drugs also be the same lawyers who advocate for abused and neglected children to get into state welfare programs which place these children on the same drugs? The conflict is clear and obvious - and it poses an unmistakable danger to children who truly need our help.

[1] Bupropion [also known as Wellbutrin, Zyban] is a non-tricyclic antidepressant.
[2] Gabapentin


Bob Fiddaman is the author of the Seroxat Sufferers blog and the book, "The evidence, however, is clear... the Seroxat scandal." Chipmunka Publishing.

Sheila Matthews is the co-founder of Ablechild and a mother of two children.

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Elan School / Elan Shool Press Release
« on: February 24, 2011, 09:32:48 AM »
Abuse Continues at Elan School

http://http://www.prlog.org/11327215-abuse-continues-at-elan-school.html

Former resident: I can attest to the abuse that occurred during my two year stay. I am urging parents and people who have the authority to send children to elan to stay away from the elan school as it will violate the child more than you can imagine.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
PRLog (Press Release) – Feb 24, 2011 – Government officials and Media,

Please take the time to check the links below and do your own searches to see the abuse records and corrupt practices of the elan school in Poland Springs, Maine. Elected officials, please do not ignore this even if it is not in your state. You have chosen your field to be leaders and assist the population and you have a duty to protect children from abuse. I am guiding you to a place that has been abusing children for decades. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! (Check into their finances too, elan is a very corrupt corporation)

Sincerely,

Former abused resident
http://[url=http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2234330403]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2234330403[/url]

http://[url=http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/search?q=elan+school]http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/search?q=elan+school[/url]
http://[url=http://www.highlykaffeinated.com/highly_kaffeinated/2010/11/allegations-of-abuse-and-misconduct-against-the-elan-school-in-maine-come-to-light-on-reddit.html]http://www.highlykaffeinated.com/highly ... eddit.html[/url]

http://media.causes.com/787903?m&s=cause
http://[url=http://forums.infjs.com/showthread.php?t=14724]http://forums.infjs.com/showthread.php?t=14724[/url]
http://[url=http://wn.com/Elan_School_|_Elan_School_Videos_|_Elan_School_Student_Life]http://wn.com/Elan_School_|_Elan_School ... udent_Life[/url]

http://http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=elan+school
http://[url=http://rehabamerica.net/27112/elan-school-elan-school-videos-elan-school-student-life/]http://rehabamerica.net/27112/elan-scho ... dent-life/[/url]
http://[url=http://theelanschool.tumblr.com/]http://theelanschool.tumblr.com/[/url]
http://[url=http://www.heal-online.org/elan.htm]http://www.heal-online.org/elan.htm[/url]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szal ... 38895.html[/url]
http://[url=https://sites.google.com/site/recentelanabuse/]https://sites.google.com/site/recentelanabuse/[/url]
http://[url=http://theelanschool.blogspot.com/]http://theelanschool.blogspot.com/[/url]
http://[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2qjFT9Pimg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2qjFT9Pimg [/url]
http://[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHndth_90Uc&feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHndth_9 ... re=related[/url]

http://http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Elan_school_still_open

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au8raGi-ppc&feature=related

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LUt6U6dLYI&feature=related
http://[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45xbPX14N84&feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45xbPX14 ... re=related[/url]
http://[url=http://www.elanschool.org/]http://www.elanschool.org/[/url]

# # #

Educating the public on what has taken place and what still takes place at the elan school in Poland, Springs Maine and other abusive boarding schools like it.

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Elan School / Re: Does anyone else have any info about the girl/van?
« on: February 16, 2011, 01:21:29 PM »
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Elan School / Re: A Life Gone Awry: My Story of the Elan School
« on: February 16, 2011, 10:10:28 AM »
My thoughts on Waynes Book by Danny Bennison

http://http://www.facebook.com/#!/topic.php?uid=2234330403&topic=15521

I have read Waynes book as many here. I will not be trying to compete with his writing skills nor length of his book. He beats me hands down. The book was mesmerizing to say the least. Names were brought up that I have not thought about in years (decades). Some of the people I have/had stayed in contact with throughout the years. So it was interesting to hear their thoughts on the book also. The chronicling of my work history was for the most part off but only by a few months, I was wrote about being at Elan 7 at a time I had already left.
I am not going to get in a big argument about the book at this time if ever. I don't see the need after all. Yes at first I wanted to jump all over it but I was encouraged not to by many. This story brought up old hurts, wounds and anger. I was a resident at Elan for almost 2 years, I watched Elan change into a violent atmosphere in a matter of years. I witnessed the change in residents being brought to Elan from Mental facilities, Juvenile detention centers, Autistic children ect....I watched Staff and Directors leave en-mass and I watched 3 people who are still there deny they are doing children harm, It is beyond shameful.
Back to the book, two people I will talk about that I felt were erroneously portrayed one was my best friend Donald Hampton. I knew Donald prior to coming to Elan, we met at YCC in R.I. We were residents together at Elan, became staff together.
Don was a black guy and while we worked at Elan we were roommmates, along with 3 other people. So I'm sorry I don't know where this racist "nigger shit" is coming from but ya got me confused with someone else. Donald left Elan because of the violence, he worked as staff for a whole 4 months. He hated Elan. AS far as calling people faggots and so forth, well ya got me there. During the football season in 76 George White, Wanye Barnes, Steve Sperry, Mike O'Neil, Alan Frey and others use to egg one another on across the lines calling each other faggots. We would wait to see if George was going to carry the ball and Dominic Parker and myself would call George a faggot if he ran away from us. As far as calling residents faggots as staff no I'm sorry once again not my style.
In early 1978 I was 18 years old and most of the people I wrote about above were my age or a year younger. I was in the program with them, hung out with them and kept in touch with three of them over the years. If you were from Rhode Island and followed college basketball and the NBA during the early 70's you knew Wayne Barnes older brother. His brother was paying for Wayne.
Second person is Mary Jones. Mary has been talked about a lot on this site and fornits. She was used to embarrass me. You guys remember the story of Mary being tied to the back of a Van and dragged around Elan. Now the story is Mary was beaten by 15 to 20 people. Well everyone that really knows Mary Jones finds this to be a bit incredulous. I'll tell you why, Mary had a kidney abnormality so she was never put in the ring or received any kind of physical punishment. This came down from Joe straight from Rhode Island. So I find this a tad difficult to understand because if she was beat she would definitely sustained injuries that probably would have killed her or very near. This is a fact, just ask anyone who knew Mary Jones from 75-79. I feel for Mary and they way she has been treated.
As I said I am not going to minimize this book. I am sure Wayne invested his soul in this book. I do believe it took a lot of courage to put yourself out there. To talk to a audience about what you experienced at 15 years old. No one could have prepared us for Elan and the mind fuck that happened to us. So no, I am not going to fight Wayne or anyone else over the barbarous abuses that went on.
If Wayne was in the House, Elan 7 as he said he was then we both know what I did and what I did not do. I do not have the luxury of remembering Wayne and for this I am sorry. It does not mean you were insignificant it just means I can not recollect.
Wayne I also want to take this time to apologize for any and all harm I caused you either directly or indirectly. I was put in charge to care for you (whether Elan wanted me to do this or not) I knew that you needed to be protected and I failed horribly.
I can only hope in time you can see just how sincere I am.

Now I would also like to take the time to express my sincere apologies to others to have gone to Elan that I was unkind to and down right rude to over the last year or so. As I have said before I could not have prepared myself enough to understand the impact of emotions that stormed back into my life when I ventured onto this site and others concerning Elan.
I did not handle the emotions from others well. I can only hope that Felice, Sharon, Matt, Mark, Wayne and others can forgive my intolerable behavior I displayed here and other sites a while back. My ongoing amends to you all has been to leave you alone and to empathize with your pain and how I can irritate this with my behavior.
I now understand that just by being staff and a Director will be enough for many of you to push me away. I am OK with this now. I guess I have acquired enough information so it is not as important to be heard as it is to listen. I have people I can go to to help me when I need it.
I was so naive and ignorant when I first got here because I had not put two 'n two together yet. This is a survivor site and I was staff. I had never really looked at myself that way. Being staff was just another phase of Elan until I left. I never had any intention of staying at Elan. I just had no other place to go and until I figured out what was next I thought I would just stay there. What was next came 20 months, when I moved to Louisiana and worked in the Gulf of Mexico on oil rigs. I have never looked back since.

Wayne thanks for a great book. Hey I have no problem really you using my name. I am sure I have injured you in some way. Just by being staff.
Just know this, I have a heart and a soul. I love and I am loved. I know what you went through and I am sorry I am a part of your life in the way I am.
Please think about this, you and I know what I did. Part of our healing process is getting honest about our past so we can forgive. Forgiveness does not mean you invite me into your life, forgiveness means we look at our past honestly and have no more illusions about it. We see it as it was and say Ok this is what happened and I am letting it go.

With my love in your healing process,

Danny

P.S. These were just some heartfelt thoughts I had.

Diane love you much.....
My little sister wrote to me the lyrics to the song "Daniel" from Elton John in 1975. I read this letter while sitting in my bunk in the mens dormitory. They converted the mens dormitory into Elan 7 eighteen months later.
I thought that had some significance here.

* I report, you decide  :nods:

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Open Free for All / Re: Wayne Kernochan
« on: February 16, 2011, 10:08:12 AM »
My thoughts on Waynes Book by Danny Bennison

http://http://www.facebook.com/#!/topic.php?uid=2234330403&topic=15521

I have read Waynes book as many here. I will not be trying to compete with his writing skills nor length of his book. He beats me hands down. The book was mesmerizing to say the least. Names were brought up that I have not thought about in years (decades). Some of the people I have/had stayed in contact with throughout the years. So it was interesting to hear their thoughts on the book also. The chronicling of my work history was for the most part off but only by a few months, I was wrote about being at Elan 7 at a time I had already left.
I am not going to get in a big argument about the book at this time if ever. I don't see the need after all. Yes at first I wanted to jump all over it but I was encouraged not to by many. This story brought up old hurts, wounds and anger. I was a resident at Elan for almost 2 years, I watched Elan change into a violent atmosphere in a matter of years. I witnessed the change in residents being brought to Elan from Mental facilities, Juvenile detention centers, Autistic children ect....I watched Staff and Directors leave en-mass and I watched 3 people who are still there deny they are doing children harm, It is beyond shameful.
Back to the book, two people I will talk about that I felt were erroneously portrayed one was my best friend Donald Hampton. I knew Donald prior to coming to Elan, we met at YCC in R.I. We were residents together at Elan, became staff together.
Don was a black guy and while we worked at Elan we were roommmates, along with 3 other people. So I'm sorry I don't know where this racist "nigger shit" is coming from but ya got me confused with someone else. Donald left Elan because of the violence, he worked as staff for a whole 4 months. He hated Elan. AS far as calling people faggots and so forth, well ya got me there. During the football season in 76 George White, Wanye Barnes, Steve Sperry, Mike O'Neil, Alan Frey and others use to egg one another on across the lines calling each other faggots. We would wait to see if George was going to carry the ball and Dominic Parker and myself would call George a faggot if he ran away from us. As far as calling residents faggots as staff no I'm sorry once again not my style.
In early 1978 I was 18 years old and most of the people I wrote about above were my age or a year younger. I was in the program with them, hung out with them and kept in touch with three of them over the years. If you were from Rhode Island and followed college basketball and the NBA during the early 70's you knew Wayne Barnes older brother. His brother was paying for Wayne.
Second person is Mary Jones. Mary has been talked about a lot on this site and fornits. She was used to embarrass me. You guys remember the story of Mary being tied to the back of a Van and dragged around Elan. Now the story is Mary was beaten by 15 to 20 people. Well everyone that really knows Mary Jones finds this to be a bit incredulous. I'll tell you why, Mary had a kidney abnormality so she was never put in the ring or received any kind of physical punishment. This came down from Joe straight from Rhode Island. So I find this a tad difficult to understand because if she was beat she would definitely sustained injuries that probably would have killed her or very near. This is a fact, just ask anyone who knew Mary Jones from 75-79. I feel for Mary and they way she has been treated.
As I said I am not going to minimize this book. I am sure Wayne invested his soul in this book. I do believe it took a lot of courage to put yourself out there. To talk to a audience about what you experienced at 15 years old. No one could have prepared us for Elan and the mind fuck that happened to us. So no, I am not going to fight Wayne or anyone else over the barbarous abuses that went on.
If Wayne was in the House, Elan 7 as he said he was then we both know what I did and what I did not do. I do not have the luxury of remembering Wayne and for this I am sorry. It does not mean you were insignificant it just means I can not recollect.
Wayne I also want to take this time to apologize for any and all harm I caused you either directly or indirectly. I was put in charge to care for you (whether Elan wanted me to do this or not) I knew that you needed to be protected and I failed horribly.
I can only hope in time you can see just how sincere I am.

Now I would also like to take the time to express my sincere apologies to others to have gone to Elan that I was unkind to and down right rude to over the last year or so. As I have said before I could not have prepared myself enough to understand the impact of emotions that stormed back into my life when I ventured onto this site and others concerning Elan.
I did not handle the emotions from others well. I can only hope that Felice, Sharon, Matt, Mark, Wayne and others can forgive my intolerable behavior I displayed here and other sites a while back. My ongoing amends to you all has been to leave you alone and to empathize with your pain and how I can irritate this with my behavior.
I now understand that just by being staff and a Director will be enough for many of you to push me away. I am OK with this now. I guess I have acquired enough information so it is not as important to be heard as it is to listen. I have people I can go to to help me when I need it.
I was so naive and ignorant when I first got here because I had not put two 'n two together yet. This is a survivor site and I was staff. I had never really looked at myself that way. Being staff was just another phase of Elan until I left. I never had any intention of staying at Elan. I just had no other place to go and until I figured out what was next I thought I would just stay there. What was next came 20 months, when I moved to Louisiana and worked in the Gulf of Mexico on oil rigs. I have never looked back since.

Wayne thanks for a great book. Hey I have no problem really you using my name. I am sure I have injured you in some way. Just by being staff.
Just know this, I have a heart and a soul. I love and I am loved. I know what you went through and I am sorry I am a part of your life in the way I am.
Please think about this, you and I know what I did. Part of our healing process is getting honest about our past so we can forgive. Forgiveness does not mean you invite me into your life, forgiveness means we look at our past honestly and have no more illusions about it. We see it as it was and say Ok this is what happened and I am letting it go.

With my love in your healing process,

Danny

P.S. These were just some heartfelt thoughts I had.

Diane love you much.....
My little sister wrote to me the lyrics to the song "Daniel" from Elton John in 1975. I read this letter while sitting in my bunk in the mens dormitory. They converted the mens dormitory into Elan 7 eighteen months later.
I thought that had some significance here.

* I report, you decide :beat:

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Great Video...although I prefer this version : http://http://youtu.be/ZprVPKi-W6s
 :notworthy:

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Elan School / Re: Ken Zaretzky
« on: February 11, 2011, 11:19:49 AM »
Ken was an asshole.
good riddens :beat:

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Elan School / Re: A Life Gone Awry: My Story of the Elan School
« on: February 06, 2011, 07:47:08 AM »
What the hell, I'll leave the end. If you want the middle, then Buy the book here.
Chapter 14

14


Monday morning brought dark skies and the threat of rain, but our first practice scrimmage was close so Marty insisted that the football team meet in Elan Three’s dining room to be sure of the weather. When we arrived the players from Three were huddled around tables talking. We waved to the ones we knew.

Mike Skakel was with Jamie Newfield and John Higgins. He nodded to me when we arrived. Joe Peterson liked to be in charge so I let him pick our table and situate the guys. He did it in a loud, military manner.

“You guys stay here and behave yourselves,” Marty said, “And, I’ll go get the guys from the bus.”

Only Shane McGarrah was lower than Joe, Gary and I, and Joe needed to look like the boss so he looked at Shane. “Did you hear what he said? Behave yourself until he gets back.”

Shane said. “I heard him.”

“Did I tell you to cop an attitude?”

There was no right answer to that question so Shane didn’t say anything, but that wasn’t enough for Joe. He was in his first position of authority and it was obvious that he enjoyed it. He would have fit in perfectly in the old days. “You’re not denying it, so now I’m sure you were copping an attitude.” He said.

“I wasn’t.”

“Now you’re lying.” Joe asked Jamie Newfield. “Is there a room I can use?”

Jamie pointed.

Joe said to Shane. “Knock on this door.”

Shane muttered something about Joe being on a power trip as he passed me and I would have said something, but I agreed. We didn’t nitpick at football. The guys from Three were also uncomfortable because of it.

When Joe was done, Marty and the players arrived. The commotion drowned out Joe’s victory lap, and Shane blended in rather than take the walk through a tense, quiet dining room. Wayne Weaver was having a conversation with one of the guys from his house, and when he saw me I gestured to him that we needed to talk, and he nodded. He put his hand to his face and mimicked eating a sandwich to tell me that we should do it at lunchtime. I nodded.

#

“Jane Tolar told me that she’s going to tell Jeffrey that she lied on you, man.”

“Really?”

I told him the story from the beginning and he looked happy at first, but by the time I was done he looked angry again. Yvette and Jane were a small victory compared to Cathy Collins and Willie Garcia.

“I’m working on Willie and Cathy, but if Jeff gets mad at Jane and tells us to stop talking about the old days I’ll never be able to confront them.”

“Then, tell her to shut up about it for a while.”

“She spoke to him last night. She might have already told him.”

#

That night, I had my first coordinator’s meeting with Jeff Gottlieb and Gary Ross. Jeff started by telling us that Jane had been shot down for guilt that she had copped to, and then he made me the chief coordinator, Joe Peterson a coordinator, and Gary the coordinator of the department heads.

I cut myself for fun and I was in charge of the house. Twenty five people’s lives were in the hands of a fifteen year old who wanted to kill someone. After the next week’s scrimmage game we were scheduled to start the season. Summer was coming to an end and so was my time away from the house. Before long they were going to figure me out.

Jane congratulated me on the promotion. “You’ll be going home soon,” she said, “I’ll miss you.”

“I’m not out of here yet.”

“You’re doing good….You’ll be out of here soon.”

#

If someone makes you angry and you want to sit on the end of your chair in an encounter group screaming at them, you, “Drop a slip,’ on them. Encounter groups took precedent over other groups, so there were a lot more of them. There were rarely slips in the box for static groups.

As the participants set up to scream they’d let you know who they were angry at, and when it began three or four people would start yelling at the same time. Usually one outlasted the others, but in the event that two or more people were going on for too long the group leader had to assign an order.

Cathy Collins yelled at Jane Tolar for getting shot down because she considered her a role model, and when she was done Gary asked me to be in charge of the group for as long as it took for him to yell at Jane too. Jane didn’t shout at them, which was rare for her. She was dejected and embarrassed, so she sat and took it.

When Gary was done, he said, “One more,” and went after Cathy Collins for having the nerve to yell at Jane. Cathy called him corrupt and said he had no right to yell at her. The language had changed in the year and half I was in Elan, but it was easy to see that the residents still hated and wanted to hurt each other.

When the yelling was over Gary confronted Jane about losing her job and asked her what guilt she had copped to. Nothing had been announced except that she was shot down, and the house wanted to know why.

Jane gave the list of offenses but left out the part about lying on Wayne. She told me that Jeff told her to shut up about it. “It wasn’t so much one thing,” she said, “as it was a lot of little things.”

“So, you let it all build up till you lost your job.” Cathy said.

“What do you care?” Gary said. “You just want to jump on her now that she’s down.”

The group felt that, so when Gary said it they agreed.

“Exactly.” Richard Kogut said.

“You’re just jealous of her because you’ve never had a position of authority.” Amy Ericson said.

Gary didn’t like Cathy, so he let the group turn on her. The next ten minutes were spent going over her latest list of incidents. She was always in trouble so it wasn’t hard to do. Jane was relieved until I went after Cathy.

“You’re not jealous of Jane’s position in the house, Cathy. You’re jealous because Wayne Weaver liked her, and hated you.” I said. “So, why don’t you cop to that?”

“Wayne Weaver didn’t hate me.”

“He does now…He told me so.”

“Why would he hate me?”

“Because you lied on him.”

She stopped with her mouth open. “I didn’t…”

“Yes, you did,” Jane cut her off. “Wayne never had sex with you.”

She could see that we were done with the lies, and stared at Jane for a few seconds quietly. Then, she began to cry. “It wasn’t my fault,” she said, “Danny was going to put me in the ring.”

“It wasn’t anyone’s fault,” I said. “Yvette, Jane and you have all admitted the same thing.” I turned to Willie Garcia. “So let’s have it, Willie…You’re the one he needs to tell the truth. You’re the one they’re still torturing him over.”

Everyone looked at him. “I say the same thing…Danny was going to hit me.”

“So, you made it up?”

“Yeah.” He said. “And he hit me anyway.”

We talked about false confessions for the rest of the group. The worst of the violence was what the program took from our being. Danny picked the one thing he could take from Wayne that would destroy him, and he did it after he had him beaten. He did that to all of us. When the group was over Gary and I put together the notes and gave them to Jeff Gottlieb, but we never heard about them again.

#

Wayne thanked me, but I could see that nothing would change for him. We played out the season, went 0-8, and I never saw him again. Mike Skakel had a great game against Brunswick the last game of the season, and we walked away feeling respectable. Jamie Newfield led us in a song on the bus ride home.

“We’re best friends, we’ll always be…Tackles and kicks, and blocks and blitz…Friends, we’ll be.”

For us there was justice because we publicly hung Danny Bennison in that group and no one was afraid. We also talked about what he did to Mary Jones. We thumbed our nose at the program for a minute and got away with it. What’s more, I pulled it off without losing my job.

Cathy Collins took care of that.

Chapter 15


Chapter 15


When Cathy Collins split she was caught in a few hours because she didn’t want to get away. She was dressed in shorts in the cold, and Cathy wasn’t stupid so if she wanted to escape she would have planned better.

At her general meeting Jeff put her in the ring, spanked her with the paddle and shot her down. He gave her a sign, assigned her a P.O. and gave her a twenty minute lecture. None of it was unexpected. After eighteen months in the program I knew what was going to happen before it did. Except for what happened next.

Donna Bouton was Cathy’s escort when she ran, so Jeff shot her down and gave her the same sign to wear. Then, he did the same to Gary Ross because he was her boss and me because I was his. I had heard of that happening but had never seen it done. I fell from the top to the bottom that easily. It was the third time I had been shot down and all three times I hadn’t done anything wrong. The slogan about injustices was right.

My sign said, “Hi, my name is Wayne Kernochan. Please ask me why I’m too busy trying to impress people to be responsible for the people in my house.” It wasn’t very humiliating insofar as signs went and Jeff told me that it would be a short shot-down, so I took it well at first. Things rarely went according to plan in Elan. No one took Joe Peterson into account.

#

Amy Ericson came to me in the kitchen. “You have to knock on the coordinator’s office door.”

Joe was the only coordinator in the house and his haircuts were always motivated by anger and degradation. He talked about the military and discipline, but had little to offer in the way of therapy. I prepared for idiocy.

If you hadn’t done anything wrong it was probably a generic haircut with a theme that made no sense. Those could be about your lackadaisical attitude because your bed wasn’t made well, or your problem with authority because you weren’t cleaning the kitchen floor fast enough. They bored me. Joe didn’t.

“Do you know why you’re standing there?” He asked.

“No.”

I stared at him blankly as he screamed at me about trying to impress people. It was boring until it became about my sexuality, and me being gay. “I’m not gay.”

Joe stopped. “Get back out, and knock on that door.”

I did.

“Who’s out there?”

“Wayne.”

“Come in!”

I did.

“Do you know why you’re standing there?”

“No.”

He screwed up his face, and screamed with all his might about me having the audacity to interrupt him while he was giving a haircut and segued into me admitting to being gay in a general meeting so I interrupted him again.

“I didn’t admit to that, ask anyone that was there.”

“Get out, and knock on that door again.”

I did, and he didn’t ask me if I knew why I was standing there. He said it. “I’m not even going to ask you why you’re standing there…” and he went on for twenty minutes.

Joe was trying to humiliate me in front of the house with lies and I wasn’t going to let him. After knocking on the door for the eighth time, he yelled, “Come in!” and when I entered Jeff was standing there.

“What the fuck is your problem?”

He didn’t want an answer. He cut me off as I was about to. “You don’t run this house anymore. Get that through your head.”

When he was done Joe made me knock twice more. Once for making Jeff take time out of his schedule for a nobody like me, and the second for wanting to impress people. He left the gay thing alone.

#

The bathroom was the hardest work for people that were shot down and Joe Peterson was an Army man so he knew that and gave me the dirtiest work—the toilets. After my defiance he had me scrub them with a toothbrush. I had also heard of that before but never seen it.

“I want this door open all the time,” Joe said, “You’re not going to run off and get me shot down like Cathy did to you…You know what? I think you’d do it just to get me shot down.”

“No, I wouldn’t.”

“Get out, and knock on that door, Wayne Kerningham.”

Joe always mispronounced my name. If I corrected him again it would just be another door to knock on, and another and another. I already told him in an encounter group and he continued doing it, so I got used to it.

When he was done blasting me for talking back I took the pail of water and toothbrush and started cleaning the toilet. He left. There was a shortage of people in positions in the house so I was left without a P.O. When Lisa Kelch came by I asked if I could close the door to use the bathroom and she said I could, so I locked the door, took out the razor blade and cut the bottoms of my feet until they bled.

I bit my hand until it had two semi circular purple imprints of teeth. When the initial pain went away the euphoria settled in and I exhaled. I wrapped toilet paper around the cuts to soak up the blood, put on my socks and shoes and opened the door

#

Over the next week I cut myself. Staff only looked at your wrists because the cutters in the house wanted attention. I didn’t. I wanted the pain. It made the crazy go away and with Joe Peterson in charge of the house I needed that.

When Gary and Jane told Joe that I had never admitted to being gay he changed his assessment of me, and from that point on everything I did wrong was because I didn’t feel like a man and was afraid women wouldn’t accept me. He obviously wasn’t in Denise’s group.

There were always a few that would jump on a bandwagon no matter how stupid it was, so Eric States and Matt Brennan started saying that I was feminine, and made fun of me for it. Joe told them to knock it off, but he smirked when he did.

#

I was cutting when Lisa knocked on the bathroom door. “Wayne, you need to knock on Jeff’s door.”

I said, “Give me one minute.”

“Now.”

I grabbed the end of the toilet paper and pulled it too hard, leaving half of the roll on the floor. “I need a minute to get decent.”

“Hurry up.”

I wrapped my feet and dropped the razor blade into my shoe. Then, I pulled on my socks, put my shoes on and wiped the blood from my hands with the extra paper. I flushed, opened the door and went to Jeff’s office to knock.

“Who’s out there?” Jeff asked.

“Wayne.”

“Come in.”

His voice was calm so I relaxed and opened the door. There was a chair where I was supposed to stand which was usually an indication that you were going to be spanked, but Jeff didn’t have an angry tone in his voice, so it was a talking to.

A talking to, was a haircut without the yelling. The convoluted therapy was the same so it was useless to me, but at least it wasn’t another haircut. It was Jeff, Joe and Jane. I looked at Jeff.

“Do you know why you’re in here?”

“No.”

“Sit down.”

I did.

“Look,” Jeff said, “I’m not gonna pull any punches with you. You were my coordinator and I like ya…you’re a good guy.” He sighed. “But, Jesus Christ man, you’re making it hard on me and my crew.”

He told me that I wasn’t long from going home, but that I wasn’t going until I straightened out and did my thing. He finished. “When you go out of this office, I want you to change the way you act, okay?”

I nodded.

Joe was uncomfortable doing a talking to. He stammered because he was angry, and blamed everything on the fact that I had a bad relationship with my mother. I wanted to correct him because in spite of all the problems at home, I didn’t, but Jeff was there so I left it alone.

Jane told me that she had respect for me but was losing it as my behavior got worse. When she was done, Jeff spoke again. “I want to see a remarked improvement in you.” He said. “Now get out.”

I went back to the bathroom, closed the door and cut some more.

#

By lunchtime that day the pain was almost too much to hide. It took more cutting to get the same high so in a short time I needed to stop. I ran out of safe places to hide it. When I needed relief I hyperventilated but that gave me headaches and didn’t last very long. Joe became more vicious, so I got worse still. I left the talking to with every intention of trying to get my job back, and mutilated myself in the bathroom to try and make it happen, but there was no way I was going to let Joe Peterson win.

It was going to be another long winter. :eek:

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Elan School / Re: Something weird happened while discussing a topic on FB.
« on: February 05, 2011, 11:57:47 AM »
Quote from: "Froderik"
In a way I hate that these groups crop up on FB.. it makes it harder to keep track of what's going on because people are scattered all over these stupid fucking fb groups.. it used to be everything was RIGHT HERE... now you have things happening and if you don't keep up on all of the ghey fb groups, you miss a lot.. and what really gets me is a lot of people on these fb groups don't even know about this site... they think they've got their "social networking" covered..  ::)

I try to keep up on the Elan FB groups and post everything over in the Elan Forum....but ya it's a pain in the ass.
I understand in the case of the Elan Forum because it uh......has it's reputation ::deadhorse::

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