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She was a real sweetheart.I haven't heard from Kristen since that vacation. I was terminated in Oct of 82 and tried to put it all behind me. Didn't really keep up with anyone.I'd love to know how she's doing.

When he [Califano] claims that the voters of Arizona and California did not know what they were voting for when they supported the two initiatives, he reminds me of the way Serbia's President Slobodan Milosevic reacted to recent election results in that country.
-- George Soros -- Sunday, February 2 1997; Page C01 The Washington Post

Absolutely everything.past present and future. :cry:

A multitude of laws in a country is like a great number of physicians, a sign of weakness and malady.


--Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778)

I had an oldcomer that had a horse.  But I think her name was Cathy S. They lived up around Tarpon Springs. Lived with a Diane P but no horse. Hmmmm

Lots of holes in my memory these days. Alot of this stuff is just coming back to me. Any other clues?

The fatal pedagogical error is to throw answers, like stones, at the heads of those who have not yet asked the questions.

                               
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Paul+Tillich%22&btnG=Google+Search' target='_new'>Paul Tillich

In 81 St Pete Straight's group was huge and totally out of control. It was before Atlanta, Virginia and Ohio groups left.There must have been 300 kids there easy. And our days were called in ALWAYS. I never had a single day off on fourth phase. Not most of fifth either. I went on exactly two permissions-TWO in a year and a half. That summer it was so fucking hot and they would never turn the damned air on. Even the walls used to sweat. One day like 10 or 12 newcomers decided to split at the same time. Same moment. They must have been communicating about it somehow. Guys and girls. They took different doors figuring they couldn't stop them all. Three girls to the double back doors under the steps, three or four guys to the double doors going inot the hall & out to the parking lot. People hitting the meeting room doors. It was awesome. Most got tackled but a few who hit the double doors got out. One guy had carved stripes into his cheeks like Indian warpaint. He must have had one hell of an adrenaline rush because he jumped right over the heads of the guys standing at the doors, rolled into the hall then out the parking lot and he was gone.It was an olympic worthy jump. I think  he went to Raefurt. I know at least one of the girls got away and never came back. But it was days in for ages.

Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
--Rep. Robert L. Henry, TX December 22, 1914 (quoting Lincoln)

Gee and he was such a big DICK all by himself. :lol:

Come the millennium,

month 12,

in the home of greatest power,

the village idiot will come forth to
be acclaimed the leader.
--Nostradamus

I'm glad you liked my rewrite of the 7 steps. I'm new to the board. In fact I'm new to the idea that straight was abusive. I always thought of it as harsh but gosh didn't I really need that? Wasn't it better than being dead? Wasn't that the alternative? I've struggled with various compulsive behaviors, depression & co dependence since i left straight and I never really understood why. I thought it was me. Just more proof that I needed to be in that place, that somehow that "therapy" just wasn't enough. That I was crazy. It is only after entering genuine therapy that I began to understand why I did those things. Compulsive behaviors are the RESULT of repressed feelings-worthlessness,self loathing, fear,hurt and especially anger. We were never allowed to feel much less express any of those things -unless it was somehow directed at ourselves. Remember "I" only conversations. And even though I thought I had "handled" that period of my life, my subconscious has been editing and repressing for twenty years. Applying the steps just the way I rewrote them. I left straight behind but some part of my brain and my heart didn't.The voice in my head saying "get over it, Don't be such a baby" and so on is the Straight voice. I feel empowered being able to express my rage. We should all be outraged.What they did was emotionally devastating,crazy CRIMINAL. And I am NOT over it.I have just begun. I'm going to write the darling DR EVIL a letter. (I'll post it of course)My therapist loves the idea. When I ask him why all this is necessary, why I can't let it lie, he says this: When you suppress one emotion, you suppress them all. So suppressing rage suppresses joy, happiness and insight. And that energy, that emotion has to go somewhere. Compulsive behavior, self loathing, inexplicable outbursts. It doesn't just go away. It waits for opportunity.He also says that emotional therapy is a bit like physical therapy. You have to execrcise those wounds. Pull at them, stretch them and it hurts. But eventually they become stronger and hurt less. This is the best in fact the only place I can think of to do that. The bit with Dr Newton and Dr Fucktard? Sheer genius. Awesome to be able to make fun,scream and yell at them. Real or not.

I apologize if I am lecturing. I don't mean to. You are expressing concern and you are right, this all by itself is not healing. It can be overdone. It is a very raw place. We are all here to exercise our demons.Your warning is fair and your concern is kind and duly noted.

And you are right that "love heals, hate steals". I like that phrase. But sometimes love means letting people express their rage. I am happy to give Therion, myself, all of us what that Straight never did.The compassion, genuine empathy and  patience to express our pain. Let Therion (sorry you're the only name I know)rant & howl about his loss. He has every right. As do we all.

And when we're done screaming maybe we can begin to heal.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got some howling to do.
 ::kiss::  ::kiss::  ::kiss::

No laws, however stringent, can make the idle industrious, the thriftless provident, or the drunken sober
--Samuel Stiles