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Been awhile since I took a stroll threw Susan's Helpyourteens.com site.
Thought I'd go take a look.
Its a pretter site than it used to be. Seems to be free of much of the clutter. Excepting her own, the various accounts of the harm done in the wwasps programs, seems to be entirely gone.

I also noticed, that unlike most every other site dealing with protecting teens from abusive programs, hers in no way mention's Maia's book:
Help at Any Cost. She does have a whole page dedicated to promoting books:
http://helpyourteens.com/books.html
But no where does she mention Help at Any Cost.
She promotes Chicken Soup and Doc Phill - but not the book on How the Troubled Teen Industry Cons Parents and Hurts Teens.
I have a thought or two on why this is - but I wonder what others think?

I also noticed that on this page:
http://helpyourteens.com/questions_to_ask_schools.html
Dealing with questions a parent should ask a school - she forgot to mention the importance of asking if the school pays fees to the referral agent.
No, no, no, no - we can't be asking that, now can we?

And I got a kick out of this:

///P.U.R.E. has dedicated their service to locate licensed, accredited and qualified programs & schools. We are constantly researching (including visiting programs personally) and take the time to listen to parent feedback. First hand experience is a valuable tool for learning about programs and schools. ///

I betcha there are some Whitmore parents who might have a few comments on how well Susan listens to parent feedback!

I can not personally vouch for the accuracy of the following comments. This was sent to me by a friend. As "crazy" as these laws sound - I have no problem believing they are on the books.

    1) In Lebanon, men are legally allowed to have sex with animals, but the animals must be female. Having sexual relations with a male animal is punishable by death.

    (Like THAT makes sense.)

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    2) In Bahrain, a male doctor may legally examine a woman's genitals, but is prohibited from looking directly at them during the examination. He may only see their reflection in a mirror.

    (Do they look different reversed?)

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    3) Muslims are banned from looking at the genitals of a corpse. This also applies to undertakers. The sex organs of the deceased must be covered with a brick or piece of wood at all times.

    (A brick??)

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    4) The penalty for masturbation in Indonesia is decapitation.

    (Much worse than "going blind!")

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    5) There are men in Guam whose full-time job is to travel the countryside and deflower young virgins, who pay them for the privilege of having sex for the first time .

    Reason: under Guam law, it is expressly forbidden for virgins to marry.

    (Let's just think about this one for a minute; is there any job anywhere else in the world that even comes close to this?)

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    6) In Hong Kong, a betrayed wife is legally allowed to kill her adulterous husband, but may only do so with her bare hands. The husband's illicit lover, on the other hand, may be killed in any manner desired.

    (Ah! Justice!)

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    7) Topless saleswomen are legal in Liverpool, England - but only in tropical fish stores.

    (But of course!)

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    :cool: In Cali, Colombia, a woman may only have sex with her husband, and the first time this happens, her mother must be in the room to witness the act.

    (Makes one shudder at the thought.)

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    9) In Santa Cruz, Bolivia, it is illegal for a man to have sex with a woman and her daughter at the same time.

    (I presume this was a big enough problem that they had to pass this law?)

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    10) In Maryland, it is illegal to sell condoms from vending machines with one exception: Prophylactics may be dispensed from a vending machine only "in places where alcoholic beverages are sold for consumption on the premises."

    (Is this a great country or what? Well . . . not as great as Guam!)

Dear All Concerned,
 
Please call 513-763-5559 if you are willing and able to talk to Channel 12 WKRC in Cincinnati regarding PROS and CONS of the treatment you received at either of ANY of the programs associated with the SEED which includes KHK, PATHWAY FAMILY CENTER, STRAIGHT, INC., LIFE, SAFE, GROWING TOGETHER, KIDS OF BC, etc...
 
The contact person is: Charles VanSant.

Channel 12 was supposed to be at the KHK protest on Friday the 10th, but was not able to make it for some reason or another.

This upcoming  WKRC story would be told from both sides. You are not required to provide your personal ID or anything you do not wish to have aired.

WKRC has been supportive of KHK over the years, however, they have never been advised of the TRUTH.

It appears that they are willing to listen and report on the side of TRUTH.

Now is the time to call.

You can also contact Charles by email: [email protected]
 
Thank you

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Hegelian Dialect is a perfect example of what J. Budziszewski (What We Can't Not Know, pp. 187) termed the "black magic spells of imposture and unraveling." Hegel's form of dialectics is itself an impostor. It effectively unravels truth and norms and then replaces them with a 'new truth' which is yet another impostor.

Hegel's 'black magic' Dialectics is the unholy diesel that fires the engine of the weapon of mass destruction being wielded by traitorous Americans and their New Age internationalist cohorts against America's traditional worldview and cultural infrastructure. This weapon is called "group dynamics" or the "consensus process." It's a psycho political behavior and belief modification technique that was used by Vietnamese communists against American POWs and by Chinese communists against dissidents. All individuals have an inherent fear of being alienated from the group, and by psychologically manipulating this fear skillful change-agents (facilitators) can manipulate or herd the victim towards a preplanned conclusion which induces the victim to compromise his own position. This is the consensus process, and when we hear Liberals screaming for 'consensus," they're really demanding that they be allowed to 'facilitate' the abandonment of Conservative principles.


Full Artical:


Psychopolitics: Erasing Christianity through the 'Consensus Process"
TownHall.com ^ | Dec. 13, 2005 | Linda Kimball

Posted on 12/13/2005 1:22:47 PM PST by Lindykim

"Not too many years ago, Americans had never heard of sensitivity training, and if a facilitator of it had tried to convince them that they needed to be conditioned by it, he would have been told, very quickly and in no uncertain terms, to take a hike.  However, step by careful step, sensitivity training began to be stealthily inserted into our society.  Today, Americans simply submit to it without much thought, let alone any protest."  ("Psychopolitics: Joe Six-Pack and the Crocodile" Linda Kimball)  

Sensitivity training, hate-crime laws, political correctness, multiculturalism, and the group dynamics and/or 'facilitated consensus process'---all of these alien constructs are psycho political manifestations of evolutionary humanism, the malevolent system of warped morals and anti-human philosophy that is making war upon America's founding Christian-Judeo worldview.  

The definition of psycho politics is as follows:  "Psychopolitics is the art and science of asserting and maintaining physical and mental dominion over the thoughts and loyalties of individuals, officers, bureaus, and the masses, thereby conquering enemy nations through "mental healing."  (Russian Manual on Psychopolitics, by Laventi Pavlovich Beria, head of the Soviet Secret Service Police and right hand man of Joseph Stalin)  

In 1947, Julian Huxley, head of UNESCO at that time, wrote a book titled, "UNESCO: Its Purpose and Its Philosophy."  His book was a blueprint for a New World Order that called for one religion, one language, and one way of thinking.  He believed a global order could be brought about through the universal, albeit secretive, implementation of Hegel's Dialectic process.  

Huxley observed, "The task before UNESCO?is to help the emergence of a single world culture with its own philosophy and background of ideas and with its own broad purpose."  Huxley spoke of two opposing worldviews confronting each other from the West and the East.  In describing them he said, "You may categorize the two philosophies as?individualism versus collectivism or as the American versus the Russian?or as capitalism versus communism, or as Christianity versus Marxism.  Can these opposites be reconciled, this antithesis be resolved in a higher synthesis?  I believe?this can happen?through the inexorable dialectic of evolution."  

The concept of dialectics has been around for a long time.  Noah Webster (1828 edition) defined dialectics as: "That branch of logic which teaches the rules and modes of reasoning."  Simply stated, dialectics refers to 'position' versus 'opposition' or 'thesis' versus 'antithesis.'  By the traditional rules of conduct, if thesis is correct then it follows logically that antithesis is incorrect.  Georg Hegel, an Enlightenment shock trooper of evil, discarded the rules and turned the concept upside-down by equalizing thesis and antithesis, which resulted in moral relativity.   'New truth' is now found in something called 'synthesis.'  

Hegelian Dialect is a perfect example of what J. Budziszewski (What We Can't Not Know, pp. 187) termed the "black magic spells of imposture and unraveling."  Hegel's form of dialectics is itself an impostor. It effectively unravels truth and norms and then replaces them with a 'new truth' which is yet another impostor.  

Hegel's 'black magic' Dialectics is the unholy diesel that fires the engine of the weapon of mass destruction being wielded by traitorous Americans and their New Age internationalist cohorts against America's traditional worldview and cultural infrastructure.  This weapon is called "group dynamics" or the "consensus process."  It's a psycho political behavior and belief modification technique that was used by Vietnamese communists against American POWs and by Chinese communists against dissidents.  All individuals have an inherent fear of being alienated from the group, and by psychologically manipulating this fear skillful change-agents (facilitators) can manipulate or herd the victim towards a preplanned conclusion which induces the victim to compromise his own position.  This is the consensus process, and when we hear Liberals screaming for 'consensus," they're really demanding that they be allowed to 'facilitate' the abandonment of Conservative principles.  

There are three steps to the consensus process.  They are called, "Unfreezing the present level, moving to the new level and, freezing group life on the new level."  In order to speed up the unfreezing phase, communists resorted to physical torture.  In America, emotional pain precipitated through vicious psychological bullying (character assassination, labeling, spreading lies, etc) is the preferred method.  

There are four key elements necessary for a successful 'consensus process' operation.  They are:

(1)multicultural and/or diverse groups fueled by resentment and envy (necessary for causing social conflict)

(2)a social issue around which conflict can be created (example: Christmas, which is labeled 'exclusionary, insensitive, and hurtful' to diverse groups)

(3)the dialoguing to consensus process (psychological manipulation leading to abandonment of principles and positions)

(4) a predetermined outcome (example: Christmas parades successfully recast as 'Festival of Lights" or "Winter Holiday" parades that are inclusive of gay pride celebrants)  

The consensus process is yet another example of Budziszewski's "black magic spells of imposture and unraveling."  It's been so successful that Christianity has been banned from government on all levels, from schools, and increasingly from public areas.  Christians have lost their jobs, been jailed, and their children harassed and even suspended for daring to express their Christian beliefs in any way.  Anti-Christian bias has become so bad that John Gibson (Fox News anchor) observed, "It's no longer permissible to wish anyone Merry Christmas.  That's too exclusive, too insensitive.  What if they're not Christian?  What if they're an atheist?  A school in Maryland is now questioning Thanksgiving because, after all, to whom are we giving thanks if not to God, and we all know we can't have that in public?Yes, Virginia, there is a war on Christmas."  (Introduction, "The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban the Sacred Christian Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought.)  

And now a word from New World Order facilitators:  

"We have battled in America since the century's turn to bring to nothing?all Christian influences and we are succeeding.  You must work until officials of city, county, and state will not think twice before they pounce upon religious groups as public enemies. (there must) be a?foaming hatred of religion?a belief that Christian practice is vicious, bad, insanity causing, publicly hated and intolerable."  (Russian Manual on Psychopolitics)  

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology.  Its importance has been?increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda.  Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class.  The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated."  Bertrand Russell  

John Gibson asked a Eugene, Oregon city manager why he had banned Christmas trees.  His properly mind-conformed response, "Well, because they're Christian" (pp. 87). This manager and countless scores of other Americans testify to the enormous success thus far achieved by psycho political operatives.  Having been "unfrozen" from the level whereon America's traditional worldview resides and successfully 'moved' to the desired level and then 'frozen' there, they now serve their new masters desires by mindlessly destroying the source of both their liberties and their human worth---Christianity.  

"Oh but, Christianity has nothing to do with either the founding of our nation or with our rights and freedoms!" exclaim mind-conditioned scoffers and skeptics.  The truth has been 'hiding' in full view, but because their minds have been darkened by black magic spells and their eyes made sightless by black magic dust, the mind-conditioned can neither see nor hear the truth.  Right there in Huxley's words is the truth, for in speaking of his blueprint he inadvertently 'confessed' to it when he said of the two opposing philosophies, "You may categorize the two philosophies as?Christianity versus Marxism."  

Cain "Dialogues to Consensus" with Abel  

His blackened soul seething with diabolical envy, silver-tongued Cain manipulates Abel into trusting him.  "Come, my dearly beloved brother.  Let us take a nice long walk and speak of our need for equality, fairness, inclusion, and democracy.  We will 'dialogue to consensus.'  See this nice strong cudgel?  I'll carry it so as to ensure that no harm befalls us.  Trust me, Abel---I'm your loving brother!"  

Copyright Linda Kimball 2005

Sources:

"Legalizing Mind Control" by Berit Kjos

"A Chronological History: The New World Order" by DL Cuddy, PhD

"Reinventing the World" by Berit Kjos

"The Russian Manual on Psychopolitics" Laventi Pavlovich Beria

About the writer: Linda is a writer and author of numerous published articles and essays on culture, politics, and worldview.

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Sunday, October 9, 2005

A hoax most cruel

By Andrew Wolfson
[email protected]
The Courier-Journal



A teenager who was strip-searched in April 2004 at the Mount Washington McDonald's where she worked is objecting to terms of the plea bargain struck for the man who admitted sexually humiliating her.

As part of the agreement, Walter Nix Jr., 43, pleaded guilty last month to unlawful imprisonment and sexual misconduct, and was to be sentenced today in Bullitt Circuit Court to one year's probation under those charges.


   
But Louise Ogborn, 19, who was forced to sodomize Nix as part of telephone hoax at the store on April 9, 2004, objects to portions of the deal that allowed him to deny wrongdoing and to avoid registering as a sex offender, according to lawyers for both sides.

"The deal will not go through," said William C. Boone Jr., Ogborn's co-counsel.

Nix's lawyer, Kathleen Schmidt, said she will ask Judge Tom Waller to enforce the plea agreement today. If he doesn't, Nix will have the option of withdrawing his plea and going to trial, or accepting an agreement with harsher terms. Nix had been charged with sodomy and assault, which carry penalties of up to 20 years in prison.

Commonwealth's Attorney Mike Mann declined to comment on whether a new deal has been worked out, but he confirmed that Ogborn and her family expressed misgivings about the plea agreement when he met with them Saturday.

Steven Yater, Ogborn's other lawyer, acknowledged in an interview that he and Boone failed to tell their client about some terms of the agreement, including one that allowed Nix to enter an Alford plea, in which he maintained his innocence but admitted there was enough evidence to convict him.

Nix has claimed he was duped into humiliating Ogborn by a man who called the McDonald's pretending to be a police officer investigating a theft. Nix was engaged at the time to the store's assistant manager, Donna Jean Summers, who, at the behest of the caller, had taken away Ogborn's clothes before calling Nix in to help watch the teen.

Nix has said the man on the phone ordered him to direct Ogborn to do exercises in the nude and perform oral sex on him. He said he also slapped her several times on the buttocks at the direction of the caller.

Ogborn was detained for nearly four hours in the hoax, which was one of 70 perpetrated in 32 states from 1995 through last year. A private prison guard, David N. Stewart, of Fountain, Fla., was charged in July 2004 with impersonating a police officer and soliciting sodomy in the Mount Washington case. He has pleaded not guilty and is set for trial Dec. 13.

Summers, who was fired, is charged with unlawful imprisonment, a misdemeanor, and her trial is scheduled for Dec. 7. She also has pleaded not guilty.

Although Ogborn has agreed to probation for Nix, Yater said she objects to his contention that he was just following orders.

"That is the defense made by Germans at Nuremburg," Yater said. "You could be fooled into some of the things he did, but not sodomy."

In other developments:

ABC Primetime is scheduled to broadcast a segment Nov. 10 about the Mount Washington case, according to Yater, who said Ogborn was interviewed for it last week by a producer and reporter John Quinones.

Yater said efforts failed Monday to mediate a settlement of Ogborn's civil lawsuit, in which she alleges that McDonald's failed to warn her and other employees at the company-owned Mount Washington store about previous hoaxes.

An attorney for McDonald's, W. R. "Pat" Patterson Jr., confirmed that the mediation was unsuccessful. A corporate spokesman for McDonald's, Bill Whitman, would say only that "we are open to further discussions with the plaintiff and her legal counsel."

Managers of at least 17 McDonald's stores already had been conned by the time Ogborn was strip-searched, and the company was defending itself in at least four lawsuits stemming from such hoaxes, The Courier-Journal has reported.

McDonald's has denied liability and said Ogborn should have realized that the caller was not a police officer. The company also has filed civil claims against Stewart and Nix.

If you want a good read on a Haunting:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/other- ... 55&s=books

 The Haunting of Hill House
by Shirley Jackson

"Hill House, not sane, had stood for eighty years and might stand for eighty more...within, floors were firm, windows sensibly shut, and whatever walked there, walked alone."  My suggestion...don't read this book alone, but read it!


There are numerous cheep second hand copies available and its well worth the price.

Like one reviewer, I first encountered this story in the black & white movie of the 60's. Like the reviewer - I found it very scary.
As is usually the case - the book is even better.

The haunting described, is very typical of what is often described in severely haunted houses, but at no time is there a visible "ghost";  and if Elinore is possessed (as is hinted at) it is not described in any kind of way typical of today's movies on the subject. It is very subtle - and somehow, that much more frightening as a result.

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For a very good read on the cruelity of little girls - and how it can color their world for decades after:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/custom ... 55&s=books

Cat's Eye (Paperback)
by Margaret Atwood

 
I tend to agree with the reviewers who say the book looses steam toward the end, as Elaine the adult becomes the focus. Even so, this is one I'll keep and read more than once as the years pass by.

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For an excelent little book on the scheming of the powers that be:

 
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/091031 ... s&v=glance


 
New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies (Paperback)
by William T. Still
   

Yes, it is written from a Christian perspective - but please folks - don't let that keep you from reading it. The information is most fascinating no matter what your personal beliefs may be. It is more or an overview, than a comprehensive work - but that makes it more readable, IMO. It is well documented - no matter what the critics might say.

Whats the deal with taking down the BBS?
You program parents - tell me - what do you think about this? Is it really gone?

Found this on a Blog site.

WWASPS/Teen Help - Utah, Montana, New York, etc...

In one of the most communistic moves to date, the General Discussion Forum on the parent's BBS has been deleted.

Not just sanitized of any posts that might raise concerns among half-baked parents - it's completely GONE.

There had been LOTS of chatter on the forum about Academy at Ivy Ridge not being accredited, being fined by the state of New York and being declared "education fraud" and my guess is that whomever cleans off those posts every day couldn't keep up and decided to just get rid of the problem altogether.

I can understand that.

I'm sure the LAST thing WWASPS/Teen Helps wants is for all 2,500 or so families involved to find out that the accreditation is worthless, the diplomas are junk, and they are being financially exploited.

posted August 24, 2005.