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Does anyone remember the things that "the program" taught about the good ole DISEASE CONCEPT?
any input would be great, thanks,
-DP

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Kids Helping Kids (Pathway Family Centers) Protest makes front page of Care 2 .com

http://http://www.care2.com/news/

Kids Helping Kids Protest makes front page of the news section for the care 2.com network under the front page section of Health & Wellness.

Awesome!

warm regards to all!
-DP

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Kids Helping Kids (Pathway Family Centers) Protest makes front page of Care 2 .com

http://http://www.care2.com/news/

Kids Helping Kids Protest makes front page of the news section for the care 2.com network under the front page section of Health & Wellness.

Awesome!

warm regards to all!
-DP

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Kids Helping Kids (Pathway Family Centers) Protest makes front page of Care 2 .com

http://http://www.care2.com/news/

Kids Helping Kids Protest makes front page of the news section for the care 2.com network under the front page section of Health & Wellness.

Awesome!

warm regards to all!
-DP

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Kids Helping Kids (Pathway Family Centers) Protest makes front page of Care 2 .com

http://http://www.care2.com/news/

Kids Helping Kids Protest makes front page of the news section for the care 2.com network under the front page section of Health & Wellness.

Awesome!

warm regards to all!
-DP :smokin:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Pictures of Protest!
« on: December 03, 2007, 10:48:45 PM »
http://http://fornits.com/anonanon/KHK_Protest_11-07/

People that are holding supportive signs of Kids Helping Kids are people that are still affiliated with "the program". These people consisted of a Board Member, A "recent graduate, a peer staff member, and a program parent.

More information will be coming soon about the pics on Anonymity Anonymous. Official press release is now available at ISACCORP.

http://http://www.isaccorp.org/announcements.asp
warm regards,
-DP

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Pictures of the protest!
« on: December 03, 2007, 10:36:23 PM »
http://http://fornits.com/anonanon/KHK_Protest_11-07/


People that are holding supportive signs of Kids Helping Kids are people that are still affiliated with "the program". These people consisted of a Board Member, A "recent graduate, a peer staff member, and a program parent.

More information will be coming soon about the pics on Anonymity Anonymous. Official press release is now available at ISACCORP.

http://http://www.isaccorp.org/announcements.asp

warm regards,
-DP

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / KHK Protest November 30th, 2007- Update
« on: November 30, 2007, 02:42:55 PM »
I was in front of 6070 Branch Hill-Guinea Pike in Milford Ohio at the old Straight Cincinnati building protesting KHK ( Pathway Family Centers ).
When I started out my journey this morning I was under the misconception that since I was protesting in the early morning by myself that there would be no interest in what I was doing. Boy, was I ever wrong. So I am standing there on the public causeway with frost bitten hands at the 25 degree temperature, holding my signs; and this nice compassionate lady turns around and pulls into the KHK driveway to speak with me. She wanted to know what I was protesting she saw "Teen Oppression" on my sign. So, I simply told her that KHK uses an abusive Straight Inc. treatment modality, and that the other name for KHK is Pathway Family Centers because they own them. I also referred her to all of the websites. She wrote everything and she was extremely interested and had actually heard of the abuses of Straigh Inc. before now. I told her a little of my story and she said to me that she was sorry that it had happened to me and thanked me for telling her my story.
So, in turn I thanked her for taking interest and I appreciated her stopping by.
Another lady pulling out of the program driveway flagged me down said "Hey, what are you doing here?". I said to her, "I am protesting the cult called KHK that is down the very driveway that you just pulled out of". She said back to me, "Their called Pathway now they've changed". So I asked her "Do you work for them?". She replied, "No, I am a program parent, and they've changed their Pathway now". So I replied, "Is Penny Walker still executive director there?". Now, I asked the same question in rapid succession because she would not answer the question. So then I told her since you wont answer that question that tells me that they have not changed. So then I proceeded to tell her a little story about me as a survivor under Penny Walkers tenure. She claimed that this place was better than drugs and it was saving her childs life. She kept asking me why are you doing this, they've changed. So I asked her if she would like a flyer. She told me yes she would like a flyer. So I gave her one, and as I handed her the flyer she still was telling me pro program jargon. So I told her the end does not justify the means with this place and simply informed her again that I am a survivor of KHK and that I know what goes on there. I also informed her that if she is not going to care for her child than I will and that is why I am here.

Warm regards,
-DP

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Torture!
« on: November 27, 2007, 11:50:45 PM »
http://worldunited-stewart.blogspot.com/

Rock on Keith! Right on Naomi Wolf!

-DP

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Torture
« on: November 27, 2007, 11:48:36 PM »
http://worldunited-stewart.blogspot.com/

Rock on Keith! Right on Naomi Wolf!

-DP

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Kids Helping Kids & ODADAS
« on: November 09, 2007, 04:38:24 AM »
To whom it may concern:
Kids Helping Kids/ A Pathway Family Center, located at 6970 Branch-Hill guinea Pike needs to be investigated and I will tell you why:
Towards the ending of 2005 3 people(survivors of Kids helping kids) filed complaints against the program and it's still current director Penny Walker. In one of those complaints the complainant swore that she had been sexually molested in Kids helping kids under by a female oldcomer at the time. The complainant also reported that she had brought this to numerous staff members attention including the director Penny Walker, and instead of calling the police so that the girl could file a formal complaint, Penny Walker directed her staff to threaten the girl to not graduate unless she stood up in group therapy(which means in front of the guys side* the girls side) to graphically relay the whole incident to the group. The girl was also threatened to not graduate by staff members under Penny Walker's direction unless she told her mother what had happened.
This same girl had also reported witnessing physical abuse of other clients by staff members, as well as emotional abuse by staff memebers to other clients and reported this in her complaint to ODADAS.
The second claimant, also a female survivor of Kids Helping Kids, in Hebron Kentucky, reported witnessing physical abuse and emotional abuse at same said program under the same direction of Penny Walker. This claimant also had reported being physically & emotionally abused by staff members under Penny Walkers direction as well.

The third claimant who attended the milford, ohio branch of Kids helping Kids in 2003, also reported being physically & psychologically abused by staff member and other clients under Penny Walker's direction.

All of the clamaints reported being physically* emotionally/psychologically abused by staff & other clients under the direction of Penny Walker(program director).

Note: in a 2005 WCPO channel 9 news spot Penny Walker admitted to these abusive tactics:

Inside Kids Helping Kids
Reported and Web Produced by:

Hagit Limor

WCPO

Photographed by: Anthony Mirones

November 13, 2005

Kids Helping Kids

Clyde Gray on set: Tonight, a rare look behind the walls of a controversial program to help kids kick drugs.

Carol Williams on set: The program is called Kids Helping Kids. It has support in high political offices.

But some call it a cult. What's the truth? The I-Team's Hagit Limor has been investigating.

Hagit Limor on set: Some say it saved their lives. Some say it scarred them for life. A program, or something to de-program?

For all the controversy, Kids Helping Kids let our cameras inside for an unprecedented look, behind the locked doors.

Penny Walker on videotape: "It is a secure facility. Our doors are locked."

Hagit Limor narration: YOU'RE ABOUT TO ENTER A PLACE OF DESPERATION AND HOPE.

WHERE THE TACTICS MAY SEEM BIZARRE

AND AT TIMES ROBOTIC.

BUT WHERE FUTURES, CHANGE.

Penny Walker on videotape: "We are a strong program. I won't deny that."

Hagit Limor narration: FOR THE BETTER?

Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "I have a chance to get my life back."

Hagit Limor narration: OR WORSE.

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "I feel like I've been trying to deprogram myself for years."

Hagit Limor on videotape: "Are you brainwashing?"

Penny Walker on videotape: (laughs) "No!"

Hagit Limor narration: IN THE EARLY MORNING, A CAR PULLS UP TO THIS NONDESCRIPT BUILDING IN MILFORD.

IT IS NO ORDINARY CAR POOL.

ONE TEEN CLEARLY IS IN CHARGE OF ANOTHER.

HE'S THE OLDCOMER, A VETERAN RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS NEWCOMER, WHO JUST ARRIVED AT KIDS HELPING KIDS.

Martha Logan on videotape: "There was no place else to turn."

Hagit Limor narration: PARENTS SAY IT'S THE DRUG TREATMENT OF LAST RESORT.

Martha Logan on videotape: "He threatened (chokes up) He threatened suicide twice and was in the hospital."

Hagit Limor narration: MARTHA LOGAN DRIVES 240 MILES A DAY TO TRANSPORT HER SON AND HIS NEWCOMERS WHO SPEND NIGHTS IN HER HOME TO A PROGRAM THAT COSTS MORE THAN $20,000, INSURANCE MAY OR MAY NOT COVER.

Current KHK Staffer: "Today what we're going to talk about is previous attempts at sobriety."

Hagit Limor narration: THE KIDS SIT IN RAP SESSIONS MUCH OF THE DAY.

Current KHK client: "I couldn't associate with anybody unless I was high."

Hagit Limor narration: NEWCOMERS, ON FIRST PHASE UP TO SIX MONTHS, CAN'T: GO HOME OR TO SCHOOL, LISTEN TO MUSIC, WATCH TV, OR TALK TO EACH OTHER. IN GROUP? NO ONE TALKS WITHOUT PERMISSION, THEY GET THROUGH CERTAIN HAND GESTURES.

Hagit Limor on videotape: "When you first came in and you saw this, what did you think of it?"

Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "I thought everybody was crazy."

Hagit Limor narration: BRANDON BLAQUIERE'S BEEN HERE EIGHT MONTHS.

Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "My use had started progressing to the point it was uncontrollable."

Hagit Limor narration: BLAQUIERE IS "WORKING THE PROGRAM." THAT MEANS RAISING YOUR ARM RAMROD STRAIGHT, IN GROUP SESSIONS, SINGING KIDS' SONGS AND ON CUE DOING THIS. THEY CALL IT: MOTIVATING.

YOU HAVE TO PARTICIPATE TO PROGRESS TO PHASE TWO - YOU GET TO GO TO YOUR OWN HOME AT NIGHT. PHASE THREE - YOU GO BACK TO SCHOOL. 5 PHASES IN ALL, TO GRADUATE.

Hagit Limor on videotape: "What about the motivating and the arm holding and the hand gestures has helped you kick drugs?"

Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "When staff sees me raise my hand all day long or staff sees me motivate 'til I'm about to fall out of my chair / It shows that I have willingness. You know these things are so simple that they mean so much."

Ed Norton on videotape: "The hand signals, the waving of your hands in the air, the sitting there all day is insane."

Hagit Limor narration: ED NORTON'S PARENTS PULLED HIM OUT OF THE PROGRAM HE CALLS:

Ed Norton on videotape: "It's a cult. / They tell you it's a long term program. They don't say it's a brainwashing camp."

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "I didn't know who I was any more. I identified with them so much I lost who I am."

Hagit Limor narration: THIS GRADUATE TOOK 16 MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "I call it brainwashing. I call it cult-like tactics."

Hagit Limor narration: WHY? FIRST, THERE'S "CONTROL" BY OTHER KIDS.

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "Oldcomers have complete power over you."

Ed Norton on videotape: "They'd throw me to the ground. Usually my head would hit the ground pretty hard and everyone's got to turn their head the other way."

Hagit Limor narration: THERE'S NO "PRIVACY", ANYWHERE, EVER.

THEN THERE'S WHAT WE HEARD IN THIS SMALLER SESSION FOR KIDS IN LATER PHASES:

Current KHK client: "It's really hard / saying I can't talk to you."

Hagit Limor narration: THEY CAN'T TALK TO OUTSIDERS NOT APPROVED BY KHK.

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "This is why I do classify this place as a cult, because you're not allowed to make any contact with people outside the program. If you do the other oldcomers that are with you at school are supposed to tell on you."

Hagit Limor narration: AND THAT COULD GET YOU STARTED OVER, FROM PHASE ONE.

Diane Norton on videotape: "No one should be abused emotionally or physically in the name of treatment."

Hagit Limor narration: ED NORTON'S PARENTS SAY HE STILL HAS NIGHTMARES ABOUT HIS TIME AT KHK. HE'S SOBER NOW, IN JAIL.

Penny Walker on videotape: "We don't abuse our kids!"

Hagit Limor narration: PENNY WALKER'S RUN KIDS HELPING KIDS FOR 23 YEARS.

Penny Walker on videotape: "We deal with difficult kids and sometimes difficult families and we're not going to please everybody."

Hagit Limor narration: WALKER SAYS THE PROGRAM HAS CHANGED OVER TIME, ELIMINATING SOME OF THE EXTREME RESTRAINTS FORMER CLIENTS DESCRIBED TO THE I-TEAM.

Hagit Limor on videotape: "When kids have power over kids, can that be abused?"

Penny Walker on videotape: "It can be. We watch very diligently for that. / What has changed is we don't tolerate violence any more. We used to."
Hagit Limor narration: SO WHY NEED ALL THOSE RULES AND STRANGE BEHAVIORS?

Penny Walker on videotape: "It's part of the discipline and the structure. / Certainly I understand that motivating looks bizarre / It's good exercise. I mean, the kids sitting in there in group for long periods of time, it really gets their blood moving and that kind of thing."

Hagit Limor narration: BOTH THE STATE OF OHIO AND BUTLER COUNTY RECENTLY INVESTIGATED KIDS HELPING KIDS, AND FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT. THE PROGRAM TOUTS SUPPORT FROM LOCAL SENATORS, REPRESENTATIVES AND BUSINESS LEADERS.

WALKER SAYS THE PROGRAM IS NOT A CULT.

Hagit Limor on videotape: "Are you brainwashing?"

Penny Walker on videotape: "No! I don't think we're brain washing them. / We're not trying to control their minds. We're trying to give THEM control. We're trying to empower kids to make good decisions for themselves."

Hagit Limor narration: THE LONG DAY ENDS AS THE KIDS MOVE TO THEIR HOST HOMES, WHERE THE RULES REMAIN, AS DOES THE CONTROVERSY.

Hagit Limor on videotape: "Without this where would your son be or where would you be?" Martha Logan: "Dead. Either I'd be dead or he'd be dead."

Hagit Limor narration: BUT SOME PARENTS DISAGREE.

Peter Norton on videotape: "I was appalled at the stripping away of all rights."

Hagit Limor narration: WHILE SOME CALL IT THERAPY

Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "I would not have finished school. I don't think I'd be alive today."

Hagit Limor narration: OTHERS CALL IT OVER THE LINE

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "I feel like I've been trying to deprogram myself for years."

Hagit Limor on set: The director of Kids Helping Kids also sent us a follow-up email to stress: "Kids Helping Kids is a community, not a cult." She says all those rules provide the structure these kids need to kick drugs.

And I want to point out, we blurred the faces of teens to hide the identities of all but those whom Penny Walker told us we had permission through the kids and their parents.

My question to the proper investigating authorities is this:
What are you going to do about this woman (Penny Walker) who clearly shows a pattern of abuse & abusive tactics?
My other question to the proper investigating authorities is :
If she used to tolerate abuse what makes you think for a second that she doesn't still "tolerate abuse" and let it go on? Especially when this woman has admittedly been the director of this same program for 23 years.

Please investigate thoroughly. Make an unannounced couple of visits to Kids Helping Kids. Interview more than one newcomer(newcomer meaning been at the program only a few days to a couple of weeks), and ask that newcomer if they were strip searched by other clients or at all on their intake.
Ask some kids just how long at a time they have to sit in solitary. Ask some kids how long they sleep on average per night.
Actually do some real investigating.

Now I would like to tell you on what basis those complaints were originally denied by ODADAS:
They based there investigation soley on Penny Walkers answers to their questions, as well as a very unthorough investigation from a CPS worker instead of doing their own investigation.

The paper trail is around to prove it. Look it up investigators!
Please look it up!

thank you for your thoughtful attention to this post.
Sincerely,
-DP

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Fighting, bickering, maligning, here again
« on: September 15, 2007, 08:06:06 PM »
Well once again I see us fighting as usual accomplishing not much.
Lord of the flies all over again, only difference is that we are all adults now.
Call me crazy but I myself have been guilty of the same above mentioned behavior here before. call it an anger problem , call it what ye will , but it is still a problem for me. I also think it is a problem for a great deal of us here.
Some people have different styles of displaying this ANGER that I am speaking of. Some are passive aggressive with it, while others blatently rage, and yet some fluctuate back and forth using both methods from what I have noticed around here.
What I have noticed about myself is that although I try hard to fight it I can fluctuate from using both methods from time to time.
Can we please have a good DISCUSSION about this common problem of ours b/c it really bothers me about myself, and about others. It bothers me about myself b/c I have to live in my own skin and deal with the fact that I hurt other people at times emotionally.
Seriously, it really bothers me. I have been fighting this side of me for years now and although I have grown with it and am way better than I used to be it just seems that that fucking place got deeper into my grains than I ever had thought.
Can anyone understand what I am speaking of here?
Thoughts, comments, fuck you's, and raging about this are definitely welcomed here about this!

One person I really admire right now is NCL, she has had a lot of crap happen to her, and although I know she is not perfect, she seems calmer than myself etc...I want to know how to do that, how to achieve that.
saddened,
-DP

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Little bar of soap.....blowing in the wind......getting STRAIGHT without a doubt as Kids helping Kids marches on!.......pass it on (open meeting)......should I continue?
-DP

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / mistake duplicate
« on: August 19, 2007, 11:48:11 PM »
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