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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What about
« on: May 12, 2010, 06:15:26 PM »
"Anne Bonney wrote:
formerstudent06 wrote:I said that because if you really were abused, then only a professional can help guide you through that pain, not some fucking kids,
Hmmmm, but the programs are always telling us that "kids can help kids". That pesky "peer counseling/therapeutic community" thing again."
- the programs are telling us that kids can help kids, yes. Are these not the same programs that certain people in this forum have accused of being abusive? And kids can help kids, sure, but without the supervision of a professional, whats to stop the kids from sending other kids in a direction that is actually harmful, not beneficial. The reality is that kids are not trained. That is all that I was saying. If there were a professional administrator in this group that was keeping an eye on the direction of conversation, then I would agree that kids helping kids would be appropriate in this place.
Anne Bonney wrote:
formerstudent06 wrote:...many of which are bias in the sense that they also feel they were abused.
Holding the opinion that you were abused makes you biased? Why would that not apply to the converse?
- people who believe they have been abused, especially ones who actually were, usually harbor a profoundly deep anger, which is not always directed in a positive way. It is not uncommon for someone who was abused to attempt to exact revenge on the perceived abuser, which is the feeling that I have gotten from several posts in this forum. When I say biased, I mean that certain individuals could be speaking from a place of uncontrolled anger, such as calling people pedophiles, making outrageous statements, or any sort of toxic remark toward another person. I would agree that people who have been abused can actually share a common perception, which could bring them closer, understand each other better, and be a positive connection on the road to healing. I am just cautioning people about the "banding" together of frustrated, angry victims of abuse without the direction of a professional who can recognize when things start to get uncontrolled.
Ok I'm done with this place. For the people that it helps, I'm glad that it helps.
formerstudent06 wrote:I said that because if you really were abused, then only a professional can help guide you through that pain, not some fucking kids,
Hmmmm, but the programs are always telling us that "kids can help kids". That pesky "peer counseling/therapeutic community" thing again."
- the programs are telling us that kids can help kids, yes. Are these not the same programs that certain people in this forum have accused of being abusive? And kids can help kids, sure, but without the supervision of a professional, whats to stop the kids from sending other kids in a direction that is actually harmful, not beneficial. The reality is that kids are not trained. That is all that I was saying. If there were a professional administrator in this group that was keeping an eye on the direction of conversation, then I would agree that kids helping kids would be appropriate in this place.
Anne Bonney wrote:
formerstudent06 wrote:...many of which are bias in the sense that they also feel they were abused.
Holding the opinion that you were abused makes you biased? Why would that not apply to the converse?
- people who believe they have been abused, especially ones who actually were, usually harbor a profoundly deep anger, which is not always directed in a positive way. It is not uncommon for someone who was abused to attempt to exact revenge on the perceived abuser, which is the feeling that I have gotten from several posts in this forum. When I say biased, I mean that certain individuals could be speaking from a place of uncontrolled anger, such as calling people pedophiles, making outrageous statements, or any sort of toxic remark toward another person. I would agree that people who have been abused can actually share a common perception, which could bring them closer, understand each other better, and be a positive connection on the road to healing. I am just cautioning people about the "banding" together of frustrated, angry victims of abuse without the direction of a professional who can recognize when things start to get uncontrolled.
Ok I'm done with this place. For the people that it helps, I'm glad that it helps.