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I was in Jon's peer group...I remember that time very well...but so what things happen and you sound like life isn't treating you bad at all. This is Andre the uh....black kid with the poofy hair. anyways hope all is well!

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I just talked tp jack yesterday...he's at a school in colorado...I forgot the name of it...google him and you'll find  it - he was cool to talk to...not like a lot of the old staff that still try to talk to you like an inmate

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get inside the heads of suckers like you...that's rich it's so great when people are still fucked up and have to use their jargon from cedu, or whatever hospital or half way house they're in now...but whatever the case it wasn't the worst way to spend 5 minutes...btw can't you tell this whole thing is a damn joke?  [ This Message was edited by: BCA PG 1 Survivor on 2005-09-12 13:32 ]

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / BCA Survivor
« on: September 12, 2005, 03:50:00 AM »
I was on the mt. lions from 95-96 when I graduated...who are you?

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You know what's worst than being bitter about not graduating and pissing and moaning about whatever?...and what I'm about to say is so true...It's leaving the school and having the misconception that the world that Cedu and the time spent "in the system" is what can truly guide you through life as is.
I, like many of the folks that I know graduated, left the school with a sense of completion and a cloud of euphoria. We went home and tried to be friends with everybody and tried to coach "friends" through hard times and expect to use the tools to make a difference.(Well some folks fell off the wagon and got back in their old routine) But shit...that only works until the real world comes crashing down on you! I was 15 when I graduated and I was so damn lost and the last thing that people look for in "the outside world" from then until at least the late teens is someone trying to preach to them the way we were preached to and even preached to each other.
"Summit Gives" i don't know when you graduated because it sounds like you just did...if not than you must live a quiet or strict religous life because alot of the day to day fundamentals are null and void once you drive away and mesh back into real life.
The biggest gift of CEDU is the gift of PSYCHOLOGY! If used right, the art of manipulation, candy coating: saying the right thing at the right time to soothe unfortunate possibilities, and expressing yourself through writing can take you a long way (hell I'm a marketing management major and I use those ploys in my research).
You can't run your anger with a group of friends, if you're a guy you can't "smoosh" with them, and finally I dare you to throw on some good ol' Cedu jams like - Tell It all or I am a rock or He Ain't heavy - with some friends around and there will not be a single tear shed or a friendly hug (unless you guys are hippies)

Yeah you may have made some good friends...how many do you talk to? Yeah you probably have less baggage now or maybe more BUT YOU CAN'T PREACH TO PEOPLE ABOUT KEEPING SOMETHING SACRED THAT MOST OF THE STAFF AND MAYBE EVEN MEL HIMSELF DID NOT!
Have your memories, and your scrapbook, and whatever other momento you may have in your shrine but you need to wake up and realize the reality of CEDU was not loving and caring for all of us...for many, it was a bastian of abuse, confusion, and pain; even for some of us that went through everything from Truth to Summit. So please...quite being blind!

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I got this idea when someone was asking what happened to to Jill and Rudy Bentz . If you don't know who either are...good for you! Rudy wasn't too bad and Jill was not really a nice person (bitch). She ran the middle school when I was there and sent me on my first voyage to Ascent...last I hear they were among the second wave of staff that stole the old CEDU script and tried to open their own joint!
Anyways for those of you who went to CHS and BCA...what happened to Russ Decker, Martin Wiems, Joel, Pam Abel, and crazy old Lori Rist, Doug Ratell, and Jack Culotta from RMA/BCA?

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just wondering who you are and when you were there?

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / All BCA Stand up
« on: August 31, 2005, 02:56:00 AM »
I was at BCA 95-96 shout out to peer group a-6
Since then I too have graduated high school in Cali and am finishing up my marketing degree (CEDU taught me the art of psychology)and as much as i've been putting it off, I'll be taking the LSAT in the spring.
For work I'm a radio jock and a DJ (you know... records)I just left 104.1 KISS New Orleans about 3 weeks or so ago. They decided to change from hip hop to gospel.  :lol:
I gotta say this though...CEDU and BCA fucked me academically...to be in schools where you make paper airplanes in natural science and instructors that pass you if you don't cause disruption is far different than going to a college-prep school.

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Tina...I can tell from the lack of response of e-mail you don't remember me...ahhh it seems like yesterday i was getting yelled at for breaking the sex agreement with you...and it never happened...or the day they tried to bring me up for raps the day before my graduation ahhh...I don't care what anyone says about you...i thought you were cool...and to think they shut that bastian of wonder down...it's crazy!

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I went to CMS April 1993
Ascent June 1994
CHS August 1994
Ascent may 1995
BCA July 1995
Graduated June 1996 PG1

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remember me? a good frind from BCA...ahhh maybe not

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / The I and Me/The Summit
« on: August 30, 2005, 04:47:00 PM »
okay, for those of you that are really stressing over the i and me and the summit...and the ones trying to keep it chaste....dammit man it was like a long rap where they want you to run your anger, forgive yourself, become a good person, and show you what the real world is like on some real strange levels...like the raft deal... "walk around the circle and tell everyone except 3 people that they die" hmmm...here, have a peer group and go througgh 2 years...in my case 3...become close, use peer pressure to help them break habits, tell them you love them, and then tell them they die! The whole secrecy thing was used as a tool since knowledge is power...the day that I saw some of the scripts for propheets where they are instructed to say "you are a special person", "we're all in this together"...It's all staged. so don't stress off of what you may have missed because everything about that school besides the whole psychology of it was all momentary and no applicable to the real world. p.s. i am not a drug addict, nor a criminal, just a kid who started at a week after i turned 12 and left when I was 15 and a half.[ This Message was edited by: BCA PG 1 Survivor on 2005-08-30 13:49 ]

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Damn...so i found this by total accident and just when I thought the memories of propheets, bans, full-times, and smooshing had all been tucked away... i find this damn thing...after reading some of this though I find myself concerned that so many parents and whoever paid 60,000 a year for a school that seemingly made people worse. being one of the few that had been to all the CEDU schools except RMA and NWA and an alum of Ascent twice man that was a long time ago...so the schools closed down what happened?

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