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I agree- these centers should not be allowed to operate if they have charges pending against them.  Furthermore, the Whitmore, Cheryl specifically, should be charged with multiple felonies.  

In my opinion, Utah is too lax in their efforts to control these centers.  As I have been told by the authorities, "We don't have enough manpower to monitor everything."  The Whitmore situation is obvious to the authorities and still they are allowing operation.

I can't understand how, as in the case of Ian August, any center is allowed to reopen under another name.  Utah neededs to get a clue and take care of this problem and quit sitting on their hands.

Tori-  Tell the authorities the TRUTH then run as fast and you can- and you know this.  You are operating on fear and this mansion and these people are your security and you are afraid to jeopardize that at this point.  Do the right thing now or it will plague you the rest of your life.

To the anon poster who thinks the media is full of crap and that Joyce Harris is to blame for the so called "harrassment".  
Just how did you do your research? Did it include asking Cheryl and Mark?? and did they give you their side of the story as they so often do? or maybe they just told you part of it.  Maybe you should talk to the Fire Marshall yourself.  The paper said the Fire Marshall said the Sudweeks have been very cooperative, not that he was impressed with the Sudweeks cooperative behavior.

As for your Joyce Harris bashing- KNOW PARENT that it IS NOT just Joyce Harris doing the doing- there are numbers here.  And none of us know one another. Take it from someone who was there long before any of this current crap started--the Sudweeks are devious, abusive, SCAM artist who can and will look you straight in the eye and lie  lie lie.  All they care about is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Couture- Yes, Cheryl told me about the plane crash too- it was quite awhile ago when she told me- actually mentioned it twice.  All I remember is that they came down into the water- I think it was in Canada near their Lodge.  Then she was under water and Mark had to pull her out.  Just that she seemed thankful to be alive.  Hell, I don't know- at the time it seemed believable.  But that's all I remember of it.

Earlier post asked me what I appreciated about the Whitmore---NOTHING.  As I am attempting to word things in a positive manner as so I do not offend any of the people who do like them.  

Unfortunately- I was one of the manipulated and deceived parents.  My kid told me alot of stuff about them- and I did not believe the kid because of all the lying from the past.

It wasn't until 3 years ago when I found out the truth and reported them to every agency in Utah that I could.

I am very upset with the state of Utah for letting it get this far--- as they were told and told again.  

And I was told by the powers that be- that I am from XXXXX and the County Attorney is not going to waste his time and Utah's resourses on me because I am from out of state and he has an election to think about.

Well- I guess the lovely person that told me that was right-- because- I spoke to the County Attorney one year ago personaly.  He "claims" he never got the information I gave lisensing and that there would have to be an investigation--eventho the case was investigated by licensing--and I have documents to back that up.

Thank you. Most of us parents do and did sincerely appreciate the Whitmore- the negative stuff that is being written is due to hurt and deceit that has actually been experienced.  We appreciate people who have our views because it helps to know there are others who feel as we do.  This is probably the reason for the "warm reception"  and/or the "looked down upon" as you call it.

I noticed there are over 400 views to this message board for public hearing.  Hope everyone is contacting the planning commission.  There's power in numbers.

[ This Message was edited by: Rodney on 2005-04-02 22:51 ]