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Are you so caught up with yourself that you can't even listen to another person's point of view?  You know what scares me, is that there are people out there as ignorant as you.  If you don't want to read what I write thats great, don't read it.  If telling me to go away and to come back in ten years makes you feel better.  Go ahead.  It doesn't really bother me.

Your right I did graduate in 14 months.  And I am proud of that.  They in no way had me "shakin' in my boots."  I chose to stay after I turned 18 because I wanted to.  I knew that by staying I would be better off.  Say whatever you want.  You call it a "psudo-cult?"  Thats cool, call it whatever you want.  It worked for me.  And it worked for a lot of the other kids that were there the same time I was.  

Keep posting under Anonymous.  It is really easy to criticise other people that way isn't it?  At least I lend a little credibility to what I am saying.  Anyone that want's to get in touch with me has an email address to contact me.  You?  All you do is come on here to do is to criticise others.  You don't actually add ANY inteligent thoughts.

Cherish Wisdom, you said that a lot of pain, suffering and even death could be avoided if these psychological evals were done before parents just "rushed in".  

I was one of those kids that was just "rushed in", and let me tell you.  If my mom had in any way hinted that i was going to be sent away, I would have bolted.  Most of the cases where it is neccesary for kids to goto these places, if the kid knew he would just run away.  That solves nothing.  

I am not opposed to the psychological evaluations, because i believe that there would still be a lot of kids out there that would still need to goto these places.  Getting the tests done at home doesn't solve the problem though.  It just gives the kid a chance to run.  And I believe that we all would agree that any kid out on his own is not a good thing.

I went to Spring Creek, and I graduated.  Why it was no walk in the park.  In no way did they ever once try to convince me that my parents didn't care.  They did quite the opposite.  When I went in, me and my mom had a really bad relationship.  Now it is completely different.  

Why is it that you will believe all of the negative stuff you read on the internet about these places, but won't even listen to anyone that says anything positive about them?  I bet you are the same people that tell your kids not to believe everything you read or see on tv.

No I have not called the BOE, but I do take your word for it.  I don't know anything about the academic side of these programs.  I do know that Spring Creek is an accredited high school, I also know the so is the New York School.  Other than that I don't know about the academics of the schools.

I don't know what the Voy is.  If you could tell me, I would be glad to go their and talk with her.

I do respect your view.  I have said all along that I don't agree with all of what the program says.  I too, know that there is some things that could be changed for the better.  And for the life of me, I don't understand why they don't let investigators come in.  It really doesn't make sense to me.(And please don't tell me it is because of the abuse).  I admit that there might have been abuse years back.  I don't know, i had no association back then.  But unfortunatly for these places because of their past they now have a reputation.  I think that there does need to be some modifications made.  But I just don't know that they need to be made on a very wide scale.

You can think whatever the hell you want.  I am not a "spammer", but I am not going to waste my time convincing you other wise.  

You first asked why have I done research on Stockholms syndrome.  I am in college, and I am psych major.  That is why.  That is also how I know all about the Bobo experiment.  

You also asked why we would talk to other kids from other facilities about abuse.  While in the program we here all sorts of rumors from other facilities.  So when we got to get together with these other facilities we would ask.  You know what we found.  The same rumors that we had heard that were happening at other facilities those other facilities heard they were happening at even another facility.

Anonymous, you were close, but a little off.

PC3 is when the parents and the child are reunited at the very end of the program.  It is the program graduation.  And during the seminar entire seminar there is almost no intervention from the staff at all.  They just guide the parents and kids as to what to talk about.  The things that the kids and parents talk about is things like what is going to be the kids schedule when the kids go home.

I agree with you.  Most do.  But how long would you wait?  Could you just sit their and watch your son or daughter throw away their entire life?  It may take to long for them to realize their "mistakes", and by that point they might have already dropped out of school and have nothing for their life.  Could you wait that long?  I don't believe that you or any other decent human could wait like that just hopeing that things get better.  

I also don't think that every kid in the world needs to goto a program.  I do believe that there are a large number of kids that do.  And if they are given the chance to graduate, I think that it will become clear that they needed some sort of intervention.