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Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on August 05, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
I'll tell her she has been challenged here. I cannot say she will respond, infact I think she said she would not longer post, but I will ask.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2005, 09:58:00 PM
If you build it, they will come.

In due time, all in due time.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
karenindallas SAID

?I hate fornits so much, I am going to write my congressman a letter and tell him. Yes, I have THAT much free time and nothing better to do. You think you are all that-- let me tell you, you are not. I am a lawyer and am much smarter than everyone here. Much smarter. So much, I am surprised any of you can read, let alone type.

I will spend everyday of the rest of my life at Fornits just to counter-point all your arguments programs are bad. It is my duty. No-- the programs don't pay me, I do this all on my own merit. Why? Because I think every teen is evil and should be locked away. You damn kids--- you never learn. Soon I will have all people who post on fornits arrested, I am THAT powerful. Watch and see.

The programs will never be shut down!! Keep trying though IDIOTS!?

(Same message is posted elsewhere)

Hey KarininDallas! Guess what, I am soon to be a LAWYER TOO! As an adult, I think you are by far the most childish so-called adult I have seen in a long time. And I am not the least bit impressed by your rantings. I despise the way you insult posters here and seem to think you are some superior person because you?re a lawyer. Big deal. And I hate to break it to you?.lawyers are NOT smarter than the rest of the world.

You?ve met you match?..let me tell you what I intend to do with my legal career and the ?power? (as you call it)  that comes with it. Prove that kids are NOT evil!?That they need love, compassion, and understanding?and yes, discipline?and, parents that can accept some amount of responsibility for their children?s problems because all relationships are a two-way street. I also intend to spread the word about how damaging certain program can be, but support those few programs that DO NOT abuse, demoralize, humiliate nor engage in coercive tactics. And while you are busy trying to arrest them?I will be very busy fighting, as a lawyer, on their behalf.

I am one former ?troubled teen,? who has done time in Straight, Inc., and will not rest until the hell I went through there becomes something good. Yes, I have ?tuned my life around? as a program would say?.BUT Straight is NOT what "turned me around." It took years after getting out that hell before I could put Straight/HELL behind me and move on...Oh and one other thing?I back up all the former Straightlings (and other drug war POW?s) here that posted?.they have perfectly valid reasons to be angry and make numerous valid points?the only difference is I know how to play lawyer ?games.?  And I will spend the rest of my life supporting them and supporting and fighting for the kids who now stand in the shoes we once stood.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 10:26:00 AM
I'm used to the lawyer jokes...and completely understand why people hate lawyers so much, and the jokes reflect that.

But, some lawyers are actually awesome people...you just have to weed through a lot of nasty ones to find them...I swim in a shark tank so to speak.

I realize that my previous post was a rather long winded...

But, people like KareninDallas infuriate me because of her hateful posts and refusal to see the bad side of programs. Three Springs Waygookin, I much prefer to see your posts because they are thought provoking, even when I disagree with you. (BTW, sometimes I agree with you too). You demonstrate a willingness to look at both sides of programs, the good and bad, which is a good thing.

I do recognize that some programs are good, but hope to see that someday, good programs are the norm and bad ones no longer exist. I want kids to get the right kind of help, not the kind that makes everything worse for them.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 11:11:00 AM
OK here it goes?.hopefully, toward the goal of meaningful debate that includes AND validates both sides of the coin (I agreed with your last post to that effect).

You said on the DATELINE TONIGHT: Restraint Deaths thread:

?I have restrained alot of kids in my day as a counselor. I think the actual count in four years of counseling was over 200 restraints? Not many of my kids seemed to be scared of getting restrained as they kept doing the same crazy crap again, and again. Sometimes I would restrain them, and have to do it again 5 minutes later for the same kid?..

?.My point is I have never seen a restraint go for more than 10 minutes tops?..

?.Restraints are part of the business and should only be used for when the kid is ACTIVELY hurting himself, or another?..

I said on the DATELINE TONIGHT: Restraint Deaths thread:

?The effect: Instill fear into kids so that they submit, comply, and so that they never show any disagreement with the "program" while in the "troubled teen facility"---The Message - just do whatever they say to get out of there! (which means kids learn little because their compliance is solely to avoid restraints, humiliation, or other consequences).?

AND Now?..

For the record, In Straight, restraints were never as brief as 10 minutes?.most were for many, many hours to all day long?that said?I realize your experience as a counselor is different than this, but what I saw was downright inhumane.

What I disagree with, is that some of use WERE terrified seeing other kids restrained, which is why some appear to be ?compliant with the program.? That compliance, for many, was superficial, just to survive and get OUT! I also saw a few kids ?take the program to heart.? But I noticed something else, the kids that were restrained were usually the same ones over and over again?ever heard of the Labeling Theory? Its my opinion that it is alive an well in programs. Certain kids are labeled in the program as ?troublemakers? or in Straight, Inc., they were called ?misbehavers.? So, from my personal observations, I think restraints happen more often than not as a result of the label?.I rarely saw restraint to prevent harm to another child or to prevent self inflicted harm.

I do agree with you, although reluctantly, that restraints become needed BUT ONLY if a kid is about to inflict serious harm to another or to himself, but ONLY then. I think most situations can be diffused by other means?.and I believe you made a point on another post about the need to diffuse situations, which, in my opinion is valid (just not with restraints).

Another long winded post?.:smile:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
I could not agree more... I've observed many lawyers who absolutely feed off people creating situations....and on the other side of the coin, I also know that lawyers, once they take a case, or are told to, must advocate for the client's position (not their own personal views). So many lawyers are either shamelessly profiting off people who really dont have a case OR are obligated to advocate for a ridiculous "created" position because lawyer ethical codes bind them to do so.

So to an extent you are completely right about the legal profession. But, sadly I have seen people who really have a case get turned away because the potential client's damages aren't "high enough" to take their case on (translation, not a profitable case), which really pisses me off by the way. I have also seen people who justifiably need legal help, but just cant afford it. And in the mix of all this crap, there are lawyers like the one you mentioned in Wash. State, who are awesome people trying to help people in a very screwed up, yet sometimes noble profession.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Shortbus on August 06, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
Lawyers - restaurants - programs - toothpaste. Too many choices. Sometimes the wrong choice costs you just a couple bucks, sometimes thousands. I appreciate all the different perspectives I get to read on this site. There are some many different experiences and they are all valid. I know my thoughts on the wilderness therapy industry are changing.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 11:53:00 AM
I like all the different perspectives too and just wish that personal attacks were not a part of it. For personal attacks and refusal to recognize all sides of an issue, is what keeps people so divided, at each other's throats, and prevents finding any common ground.

If only more people could understand importance of what you just said Shortbus. "There are some many different experiences and they are all valid." I would add...all of them are valid, including "troubled kids," angry POW's, counselor's, and parents. And including "experts" and various personal experiences. (minus the name calling, narrow mindedness, and other personal attacks)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on August 06, 2005, 01:08:00 PM
Any one that said a kid should be dropped was seemingly never droped themselves. I guess they just can understand what it feels like to be attacked by 3 or 4 people bigger than you are. Its like a gang attack or something. So if any staff member ever stays anything like this and I worked there, I would get abunch of big staff members, and drop him, then ask. "Well still wanna drop the kid?"
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 01:11:00 PM
If youve been through training that was thorough, you know what its like to be in different holds or to be dropped.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on August 06, 2005, 01:52:00 PM
I was more inforcing the idea of "Walk a mile in a persons shoes." Because if something happens to a person that they dont like then they are less likely to do it to another person, at least if they have a ounce of humanity in them. I believe the entire industry would just implode if parents were required to go through a week of what these kids went through. Its idealism I know, and it would never happen, but its still the principle of the thing.[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-08-06 10:53 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on August 06, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
I decided, since there are apparently two lawyers around here, I should go by some kind of name to avoid being mistaken for KareninDallas, which I am definitely not! :exclaim:, which are very good questions by the way. I?d love to see independent research on those issues as well.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on August 06, 2005, 02:58:00 PM
Again, I think you ask very good and valid questions and I would love to see the research on them as well. ::bigsmilebounce::  ::bigsmilebounce::  ::bigsmilebounce:: here?s how I think Straight would have responded to your questions. (I've actually heard them respond to items 1 and 2 numerous times while "in the program" and 3 is a true fact, but never actually heard them have the nerve to use that line to respond to similar questions)

1)   70% success rate
2)   They all relapsed because they stopped  
        applying their program.
3)   Nancy Reagan came to visit and loved
        Straight! Why, we have the endorsement of
        the White House!!!  :eek:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nihilanthic on August 06, 2005, 03:11:00 PM
Just for kicks:

Today, on Spike TV, theres gonna be a live UFC on at about 9 pm EST (check listings to be sure).

If you wanan see what restraining someone is REALLY like, try watching this. And FWIW, Id *LOVE* to see "Randy Couture vs the staff of Tranquility Bay"  :grin:

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Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on August 06, 2005, 03:23:00 PM
This debate re: restraint goes in circles because the majority of people consider it okay to use restraint as punishment, as a deterrent to ?undesirable? behavior, and to instill fear. Progress on this issue will not happen until it is dismantled and analyzed. I think those are all the wrong reasons to use it for the same reason I think corporal punishment is wrong.

Think about it.
A kid gets angry. He is too far gone to be rational. De-escalation doesn?t calm him. He is becoming violent.
Anger and rational thought are like oil and water. Rational thought is impossible when someone is lost in anger, particularly when it has escalated to potential violence.

There would be two reasons that I can think of where restraint in this situation could be considered a therapeutic tool.
To genuinely protect him from hurting self and others.
To provide some resistance- an aid in helping him to vent the anger.

Restraint can be potentially very useful depending on the attitude of the person conducting the restraint.

While the restraint is happening the restrainer is holding the kid in the highest regard. He is always aware that the kid (or adult) is unable to think rationally due to the anger, therefore can?t control his anger. So the restrainer puts the kid in a safe hold and states the truth while the restraint is happening, ?I?m going to hold you until your anger has passed. I can?t allow you to hurt yourself or others. When you?ve calmed down we?ll discuss what upset you. Your anger may be justified, but hurting yourself or others is not.?

Not unlike what we see when a teen (or adult) gets into a confrontation that is heading for a fist fight. Four or five of the kid?s friends will come to his aid; circling around him, holding him back and trying to talk him down. It?s pretty much instinctual, common sense.  Just as when a parent swoops up a raging toddler who?s about to go ballistic on his friend, and ?holds? them until they have settled down. Those are useful restraints and there is no intention of hurting the teen/child. If the child struggles to get away, the parent does not squeeze the life out of the child. They reposition themselves to avoid being hurt or hurting the child.

That?s a whole different experience than ?I?m going to hold your ass down till you stop exhibiting anger. I?m going to cause you pain until you submit.? And so many times in programs, kids are baited because the staff enjoys restraining. They probably love to take them behind the woodshed for a whopping, but can?t. On the other hand, sadistic restraints are allowed and written-off as ?therapeutic?. If the kid dies due to the restraint, no problem, we?ll call ?Excited Delirium Syndrome? and blame the kid?s behavior for his own death.

So, in a sadistic hold the kid stops. What happened to the anger? Did it magically disappear? No. So, what might happen? It comes out more covertly in passive aggressive ways. The kid gets more clever in his attempt to seek revenge for being hurt, yet again, by a misguided authoritarian adult.

I have seen thoughtful therapeutic holds and they can actually go a long way in developing deep trust between a kid and his care giver because it is done with genuine respect, depending on what happens during and afer the restraint. It?s all about the intention and it has to clear and genuine. And don?t think that kids can?t discern the difference. If you restrain a kid for the purpose of punishment and to establish your power over the kid, you may see him ?act? better, but has anything of real therapeutic value actually occurred? No. Just another authoritarian adult who has forced their will and not made a difference at all in the kid?s perception, or addressed the kid?s real need. In this case, you may as well be beating the kid. It?s just another form of abusive punishment.

There are other ways to aid a kid in venting his anger. One way that my son found particularly useful was to get in the sauna. He was 18 and attended a voluntary rehab to avoid court ordered (ineffective) rehab. They would go to the ?box? when anger surfaced. He said it was very effective.

I used to give my kids pillows to hit/kick. Very effective for younger kids. Batakas are great. They can whack the crap out of you and it doesn?t hurt.  I wrestled with them which would eventually turn into a giggle fest. They had a punching bag and gloves. Kids love to break things when they?re angry so we had a place they could throw empty glass bottles against rocks without getting hurt.
When they got older I?d give them 5 minutes to spout off every nasty, mean thing they were thinking. Every single thing they resented me for. No holds barred. No resentment. When they were done letting off steam (letting me know what a shit I was), they?d return to their normal reasonable selves, capable of having a discussion or negotiating. I didn?t require an apology, but most times got one.
There are sooo many ways to let them safely vent their frustration and anger, these are but a few.
When my younger son was incarcerated in the TBS he?d tell me how angry he'd get due to the petty BS and baiting. I?d ask him if there was any activity available that might be useful to vent his anger, like throwing a ball as hard as he could against the side of a building, etc. These discussion were difficult to have with him since someone was always listening. I felt sure that they would do everything in their power to interfere with him gaining access to a ball, or whatever.

If you are conducting restraints for any other purpose than genuine protection or to aid the kid in venting anger, you are doing it for the wrong reasons, and it has no ?therapeutic? value.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on August 06, 2005, 04:01:00 PM
Oh man! I love UFC! it rocks!!! the matches are bit to short some times though, and yes, that is something I would like to see, a match like that. haha.  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on August 06, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
I agree with every word 100%. I just wanted to add one thing to what Deborah said.

---"When they got older I?d give them 5 minutes to spout off every nasty, mean thing they were thinking. Every single thing they resented me for. No holds barred. No resentment. When they were done letting off steam (letting me know what a shit I was), they?d return to their normal reasonable selves, capable of having a discussion or negotiating. I didn?t require an apology, but most times got one."---

I've done this exact same thing myself as a mentor, except that I dont limit the time ---I give them as long as they need, especially with the ones I mentored in juvenile detention centers. I think its effective because kids get to express/vent anger. And, by allowing the child to rant on and on for a while...someone is finally listening to them, showing them respect and validating their feelings....Kids constantly complain that adults wont listen to anything they have to say. And to a large extent, they are often right, that no one is listening. So, by listening to their anger and various rantings, I'm convinced that most kids become a lot more willing to listen to the adult, because its mutual cooperation, without coercion.

That said, some kids just are not interested in being reached in any way, period. And that is their choice. But showing genuine interest in kids, their anger, frustrations, pain, etc, can go a long way, for those who are interested in being reached.

Anyway, I agree that this kind of venting/validation should be a huge part of therapy, parent/child relationships, friendships, heck all relationships! ::rainbow::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nihilanthic on August 06, 2005, 04:19:00 PM
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On 2005-08-06 13:01:00, OverLordd wrote:

"Oh man! I love UFC! it rocks!!! the matches are bit to short some times though, and yes, that is something I would like to see, a match like that. haha.  :rofl: "


Vitor Belfort sprinting out into the ring and kneeing Jay Kay in the forehead and splitting it open would be absolutely awesome :grin:

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Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on August 06, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
I certainly would not cut it off at 5 minutes if more were needed. I'm extremely patient with the process and took nothing personally. 5 minutes was usually more than enough for my kids, probably because they had always had that outlet and didn't have years of resentment stored up. The longer periods would flucuant between anger, crying, laughing, rationalizing. Most times it turned out to be some stupid thing that happened at school or some stupid thing I did and had to cop to.

I do this with adults in my life too. If it's obvious that someone is angry with me, I invite them to let it rip. You'd be surprised how many people can't, when given the opportunity. I have just found that there is not going to be any useful dialogue until they have vented their anger. Part of this is strictly selfish. I like efficiency, and do not like to waste my time trynig to rationalize with an angry person. It's just as useless as trying to talk sense to someone when they're two sheets to the wind.


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Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Shortbus on August 06, 2005, 05:24:00 PM
I try to remind myself that when a student is acting out its not usually about me, its about something thats going on with them. I listen to them, try to understand whats going on with them and wait. The hardest part for me is to not take it personally especially when youve been with them a few weeks and they know your buttons. Its also hard because as staff you just cant walk away. You have to be there to make sure everyone stays safe. Respect goes a long way, and when appropriate so does some humor. Its hard to be really really pissed off when youre laughing.[ This Message was edited by: Shortbus on 2005-08-06 15:59 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on August 06, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
I did not mean to suggest that you limit your kids to a 5 minute time limit as a definite cut off.  :smile: I think in your role as a parent, since you have consistently allowed your children to vent as you said, then 5 minutes or so (sometimes longer)might be all they need.

For kids in juvenile detention, since most of these kids never seem to have had any healthy outlet, I give them free rein on the venting because of their circumstances. And I occasionally throw in my thoughts, or ask a question to keep them going, but the vast majority of the time, they have the floor. For them it may take hours, days, weeks, months, etc. to express years of pent up rage and to learn to express their anger in words, not by acting out. I suspect kids in "programs" would also need free rein as well.

Anyway, I applaud the parenting/therapy "venting technique." I was really just elaborating on your point with my experience doing the same thing. I wish "programs" would give the idea serious consideration. It stands a chance of making a difference whereas coercion will only create more anger, that a kid will need to vent later, one way or another.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on August 06, 2005, 05:46:00 PM
Yeh, I didn't get that you were implying that.
It was refresing too to hear that someone was doing this in the JJ system. Those were some lucky kids!! And I'd imagine that for some of them it might take hundreds of hours.

What did your peers/superiors think? Was it accepted or did you have to fly under the radar?

When my older son returned from a program with 'PTSD' I was frequently up til the wee hours of the morning. Listening and listening and listening. Not so much venting anger, as crying and sorting out confusion.

I don't know if it would ever be adopted by a program. It's time consuming, would require special training, but most of all... it goes against the current erroneous belief that- If you can make a person ACT OK, then they ARE OK. Feelings are to be suppressed and controlled, with BM, and drugs if need be. Wrong.


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Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on August 06, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
Shortbus,
My guess, in your situation you had assumed the role of authority in their lives, therefore all their pent up resentments and anger toward their parents, teachers, judges, etc got laid on you. Plus man, you were participating in their incarceration by 'colluding' with the 'enemy'.

Not taking things personally is essential, but hard to do sometimes.

Your comment about humor is soo true. I always hated the constant, unrelenting somber tone of the staff at the facility. Enough to depress the most happy person. Laughing alters brain chemistry in a positive way. Why would they keep kids in a constant state of seriousness. It's like a convent or something. Like it's a sin to be happy. You're not 'working your program' OR 'you're not looking at your issues' if you're the least bit happy. Happiness only allowed at group assemblies with choreographed performances always of a 'therapeutic' nature. A smile could be covering a lie or run plan. Best break out a restriction.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on August 06, 2005, 07:01:00 PM
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Vitor Belfort sprinting out into the ring and kneeing Jay Kay in the forehead and splitting it open would be absolutely awesome  

Then again, Id rather just let Vanderlei Silva go 1v1 with everyone one after another and have a ton of mops on hand  


Dude, as long as there are some submission holds tossed in I'm happy. "What, you want to tap out, no you still seem like you might get up and hurt some one or your self, sorry."
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Shortbus on August 06, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
THere were times that I got sooooo sick of therapy... and I could never dish out consequences that had no purpose. That doesnt teach anything. If a student doesnt want to build a shelter, fine but if it rains youll get wet. I had better things to do than punish. As far as I was concerned that wasnt my job. If Suzies job tonight is to build a fire and she doesnt then you guys work it out. THe students I had were pretty good at calling bullshit and policing each other. Not always but if they were, then great, it made my job easier. And fun, theres absolutely no reason why a certain amount of time every day should not be dedicated to fun.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 07:53:00 PM
Well, I guess you could say it was under the radar when I did some JJ detention mentoring, but after doing it twice, I gave a program proposal to the Juvenile Judge who had given me permission to talk to detention kids in the first place (I took several classes in undergrad from this particular judge who taught on the side). And since I was not an employee of the system, what I did was strictly voluntarily...I was just lucky know the right person at the right time.

The judge gave me the go ahead for the mentoring proposal and instructed her staff (primarily the probation dept.) to work with me and make it happen. Then, while in the midst of working out the details, along came law school. I had to move three hours away from home to attend, so it was impossible to continue the project. But I have not forgotten it and will revive it at the first opportunity I get, after graduation, the bar exam, and moving back home.

As far as the reception the idea received from those in the JJ system...mixed...I saw both enthusiam, total support, skepticism and out right rejection of the idea. The judge and the supervisory probation officers were the ones enthusiastic and supportive...while the "lower" probation officers/staff generally were pessimistic and very negative.

Another interesting thing....I notice the same combination of attitudes, positive and negative in the juvenile court where I externed last year. (I didnt get to propose that idea while there...at that time I was focused on abuse, neglect, and dependency). Both my home town and the place where I attend law school have what they call Model Courts (See, National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges-- http://www.ncjfcj.org (http://www.ncjfcj.org)) Although by no means perfect, and while there are still plenty of problems with the JJ system, the Model Courts seem to have one thing with potential going for them...willingness to try new ideas and then share those ideas, both their successes and failures, with other juvenile courts around the country....In my opinion, these courts are the most ideal place in the JJ system for trying to get mentoring off the ground again. And the juvenile justice system may have the potential to influence private programs, especially because the juvenile courts routinely refer kids and parents to them.

One of the obstacles to getting mentoring off the ground is finding people that would be happy to spend hours on end with these kids. Because after hours of sifting through the anger, next comes all the emotions, if you can get a kid to that point, which then takes more endless hours with kids. And for mentoringing to work it does take time. The challenge is to convince people in the system that its worth every minute, that those kids desperately need the attention. If money were not an issue I would love to mentor full time, but gotta pay the astronomical school debt.

And you are right, it would take convincing a lot of people do steer away from what I call "bandaid solutions" that try to correct outward behavior, and do  nothing to help kids through the cause of theirs actions....the pain, whatever the source of their pain may be. And convincing the JJ system that coercive tactics are inhumane, ineffective, and exaccerbate kids "issues"
....well, thats another challenge altogether. Then, trying to convince them all these kids really are not bad and have a lot of potential if given a real chance....well, yet another obstacle...

But then again, if enough people start shaking up the system, programs, etc. with new ideas that dont involve force, maybe they'll have to take notice! Who knows , its worth a shot. And I know there are at least some out there who would take notice.

BTW, there is at least some recognition within the JJ system that coercive programs are bad news, I just dont know how common that attitude is yet, but it is a ray of hope I guess you could say.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on August 06, 2005, 07:56:00 PM
Oops, I forgot to use my user name...the previous, extremely long post about mentoring in the JJ system was from me, nonconformistlaw. :smile:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 08:45:00 PM
"karenindallas SAID

?I hate fornits so much, I am going to write my congressman a letter and tell him. Yes, I have THAT much free time and nothing better to do. You think you are all that-- let me tell you, you are not. I am a lawyer and am much smarter than everyone here. Much smarter. So much, I am surprised any of you can read, let alone type."

This post was not made by Karen. She has not posted on this board in days. This was one of you pretending to be her.
Enjoy arguing with yourselves.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Antigen on August 06, 2005, 08:54:00 PM
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On 2005-08-06 12:23:00, Deborah wrote:

While the restraint is happening the restrainer is holding the kid in the highest regard. He is always aware that the kid (or adult) is unable to think rationally due to the anger, therefore can?t control his anger. So the restrainer puts the kid in a safe hold and states the truth while the restraint is happening, ?I?m going to hold you until your anger has passed. I can?t allow you to hurt yourself or others. When you?ve calmed down we?ll discuss what upset you. Your anger may be justified, but hurting yourself or others is not.?


Deb, I think your idea depends on sane people being in charge. The above is just exactly what they said in Straight. Follow me on just a short trip into Loony Land if you want to understand it.

According to Program dogma, we all were desperate druggies who would have been deadinsaneorinjail w/o the Program. So, by not working the program or by disrupting the working of the program for others (i.e. by expressing a dissenting view of any kind, for example) was, in fact, risking your own life and the lives of others. That's not just a guess. We said it outright to each other when called upon by staff to confront the misebehaver. "Johnny, I'm so pissed off at you! I'm here to get straight and when you sing druggie songs it brings me down. You don't have the right to risk my life like that. But we love you so we're gonna keep the pressure on you till you start to see the light and start getting yourself straight!"

See how that works? If you're determined enough, you can make a threat to self or others out of something as subtle as an eye roll or an unauthorized smile or conversation.

I really don't understand what it is about families like mine and all the rest who wind up in this industry. I knew a lot of sane people who's parents regarded the whole thing as absolutely lunatic. I don't think you can pass a law requiring people to be sane about these things, far less enforce it. I think the most effective thing we can do is just to get the word out on how crazy this whole thing is. At least then maybe some of the potential marks will see them coming and pass them by.

The idea of God is the sole wrong for which I cannot forgive mankind.
--Marquis de Sade, French libertine

Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on August 06, 2005, 10:53:00 PM
Yeh Ginger, precisely. I'd rather a staff shoot my son with a sedative dart gun than restrain him, cause I know the intention and potential for injury and death, not to mention the psych/emotional damage.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
Eckerd:  MIKEY WILTSIE

Restraint Death

He was a little boy.

Another senseless death at the hands of untrained BIG PEOPLE who can literally crush the life out of a boy Mikey's size and age.

 :flame:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2005, 11:57:00 PM
A program ruined my family.

Dan in Seattle
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Antigen on August 07, 2005, 01:45:00 AM
TSW, please tell us more about Eckard. I'll tell you why I want to know. They've been around for a long time. I knew ppl in Straight who had been to STOP Camp (and wanted to return!) And I know that Jack Eckard was among the Wackenhut/Sembler/Büsh cronnies.

But I also know that, among those cronnies were ppl who had some different views about a lot of things aside from their common ground. I know very little about the Eckard camps aside from what I stated above. Would love to know more. I'm not so pesimistic as to pass on a potential ally just because they made poor choices about who to hang out with among their other youthful indiscretions. :wink:

Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.
--James Madison, U.S. President

Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 07, 2005, 10:25:00 AM
Posted: 2004-05-23 15:46:00  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Oh brother, here we go again ... Karen "not up to the details" though she does know the young man.
Perhaps Karen will share with us how it came to be that this kid ended up at ALA by way of Casa by the Sea? Also, I'd still like to know what her relationship to Strawn (the transport service) is as long as we're still playing DODGE BALL.


Professional evader.  Still trolling around after all this time...

I knew I had seen her before on the board.  

As it turns out, her son was at DUNDEE RANCH, the WWASP facility closed by the Costa Rican authorities for CHILD ABUSE. :eek:

No wonder, Karen, that you don't want to say where your kid went.  Your credibility has evaporated.  You willingly sent your child to an ABUSIVE HELL-HOLE that even a third-world country found to be so bad that they shut it down...  SAD.

How many times have you said "our program wasn't abusive," but refused to name the program?  NOW I CAN SEE WHY.

You actively support ONE OF THE WORST THAT EVER WAS!  How funny...   :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
What are you talking about? Karen's son went to a TBS in Virginia. She has been long gone from this board and is not reading or posting. My kid was in the same program and same group with hers.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2005, 11:14:00 AM
Anon, this is a different Karen, not BuzzKill, but a frequently poster at ST who dropped a few verbal bombs then fled when she was exposed.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
Someone has confused Karen in Dallas, with Karen in Kentucky.

Karen in Kentucky has been completely upfront with her situation in relation to these issues.

If Karen in Dallas has been more secretive, maybe she has her reasons.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLord on August 24, 2005, 06:53:00 PM
You know whats funny .. this anon troll whow seems to know so much about karen. seirously thanks for the laughs.. karen.

i miss you karen. i love you karen. can i be your friend karen
?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2005, 07:48:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-08-06 22:45:00, Antigen wrote:

"TSW, please tell us more about Eckard. I'll tell you why I want to know. They've been around for a long time. I knew ppl in Straight who had been to STOP Camp (and wanted to return!) And I know that Jack Eckard was among the Wackenhut/Sembler/Büsh cronnies.



But I also know that, among those cronnies were ppl who had some different views about a lot of things aside from their common ground. I know very little about the Eckard camps aside from what I stated above. Would love to know more. I'm not so pesimistic as to pass on a potential ally just because they made poor choices about who to hang out with among their other youthful indiscretions. :wink:

Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.
--James Madison, U.S. President


"


Michael Wiltsie was restrained to death at an Eckerd wilderness camp.  He was only 12.

http://teenadvocatesusa.org/MikeyW.html (http://teenadvocatesusa.org/MikeyW.html)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: alternativa on August 24, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
I think Karen in Dallas needs to be sent to Brat Camp. She obviously has a bad attitude and manipulation issues.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2005, 11:21:00 PM
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On 2005-08-24 17:55:00, alternativa wrote:

"I think Karen in Dallas needs to be sent to Brat Camp. She obviously has a bad attitude and manipulation issues."


Bawaaaaaaaaahahahaaa!

Now that's a show I'd watch ... some parent lugging around a bad-girl rock in her back pack while hiking through the desert.

ABC?  Get with the program ... BRAT CAMP FOR DEFIANT PARENTS is what American's wanna see.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 25, 2005, 07:57:00 AM
That lady, Karen, is a complete moron and as annoying as anyone I've ever seen on this board.  I'll be glad if she stays gone...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 09:20:00 AM
I think it's funny that you picked out someone to dump on who posted over here about 3 times. Good handle on all the Anons, Dysfunctional!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 25, 2005, 09:36:00 AM
Three times?  You're nuts.  Maybe you're Karen?

At least you seem to know "all the Anons," so at least you've confirmed you all "work" together.

I think your compulsion to post is hilarious.  You just can't help yourself(or yourselves) can you?   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 25, 2005, 09:41:00 AM
She's baaaaaaaack....   :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 10:33:00 AM
Even if not every post is Karen.. which is probably true.. the name Karen means so much more now. 'Karen' has become a negative term to be labeled here. It means TROLL! muahahhaha

So yes, you ARE karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on August 29, 2005, 12:51:00 AM
***I think it's funny that you picked out someone to dump on who posted over here about 3 times. Good handle on all the Anons, Dysfunctional!


How could you POSSIBLY know that she only posted here 3 times?
How could you POSSIBLY know that she is not posting now...
unless you are Karen or her side kick.

Or, Ginger posting as an anon...  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 09:06:00 AM
Deborah- I'm not Karen or a sidekick or whatever.  But you SERIOUSLY need to get a life.  Who the hell cares who these people are who post? If you disagree with them, fine. As long as registration isn't required in order to post, people are going to post as Anons. Even those who register are usually not revealing much of their identity.  So what?  Get over it, please.  I know you got burned on the other thread and made to look like a complete fool, but it's time to cease your little quest for WHO ARE THE ANONS.  No one cares.  Call them all Karen.  Call them all assholes.  But please get a life.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
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On 2005-08-29 06:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Deborah- I'm not Karen or a sidekick or whatever.  But you SERIOUSLY need to get a life.  Who the hell cares who these people are who post? If you disagree with them, fine. As long as registration isn't required in order to post, people are going to post as Anons. Even those who register are usually not revealing much of their identity.  So what?  Get over it, please.  I know you got burned on the other thread and made to look like a complete fool, but it's time to cease your little quest for WHO ARE THE ANONS.  No one cares.  Call them all Karen.  Call them all assholes.  But please get a life."


Nice try Karen. It was YOU who looked like a fool, remember?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 29, 2005, 04:30:00 PM
what's up karen?  nice to see you again!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 04:57:00 PM
I'm good--- still out of work, and spend my time hanging out on fornits trolling. I can't start my day without railing a couple no goodnick teens. GOD, I hate you people!!!
Karenindallas
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 06:15:00 PM
The previous post was not by Karen.  She does not post here.

You know, I think this is the most immature, angry and irrational group of people on the entire internet. Congratulations!  I came here looking for information on the industry and on some particular programs, and what I found was a bunch of name-calling, swearing, personal attacks against people that are basically invented and little helpful information.  Do you really want this forum to be like this?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 07:07:00 PM
:rofl:  :rofl:  :wave:  :wink:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 07:27:00 PM
The posters must think that only two people disagree with their anti-facility positions. Come on folks! YOu can't honestly think that can you?  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on August 29, 2005, 08:41:00 PM
Be nice guys...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 09:38:00 PM
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On 2005-08-29 16:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The posters must think that only two people disagree with their anti-facility positions. Come on folks! YOu can't honestly think that can you?  :rofl: "


Of course not! We konw theres a HUGE market of ignorant, propogandized parents who faithfully buy into the program's cult. Why do you think they are in business? They are harvesting YOUR stupidy, and are reaping a neverending bounty of middle class savings.

Yes, we know there are plenty of you people out there. The ones who troll fornits are especially pathetic.  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 09:49:00 PM
I agree. Those who spend hours and hours every single day on message boards blasting programs they have no experience with and spouting off at the mouth about how everybody who doesn't think like them are evil child abusing money grubbers are pathetic indeed.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 10:27:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-08-29 18:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I agree. Those who spend hours and hours every single day on message boards blasting programs they have no experience with and spouting off at the mouth about how everybody who doesn't think like them are evil child abusing money grubbers are pathetic indeed. "


You are the sucker in the deal, not the program.  :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-08-29 18:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"child abusing money grubbers "


Nobody used these terms, but it's interesting this is how you think of yourself.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 10:40:00 PM
Ive never spent a cent on tuition for any program for any child, nor have I sent my children to participate in any program, nor have I owned a program, been a consultant, or been a counselor. Nor do I condone abusive behavior on any level. I am someone who is interested in preserving the reputation and integrity of the counselors and teachers who truly care about their charges. The ones who spend months trying to help those in their care. The sins of a few should not allow the whole lot to be condemned.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 10:53:00 PM
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Ive never spent a cent on tuition for any program for any child, nor have I sent my children to participate in any program, nor have I owned a program, been a consultant, or been a counselor.

And you were complaining about people uninvolved in the issue commenting? I was at a program, several in fact.

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Nor do I condone abusive behavior on any level.

Nor do I. Since I was abused (according to the LAW) at two different facilities, commonly discussed here, I feel I have the right to comment as I wish. As do you. Thank you for being honest about where you are coming from-- seemingly someone uninvolved in the industry?

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I am someone who is interested in preserving the reputation and integrity of the counselors and teachers who truly care about their charges

:???: Is there a friend of yours who's name appears on this website? What charges? Good people can work at abusive programs, what does this prove? Good intentions don't mean squat to me.

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The ones who spend months trying to help those in their care.

Admirable, but even those with the best intentions can do harm.

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The sins of a few should not allow the whole lot to be condemned.


Everyone has a right to speak up around here, it's a completely free forum. Those who have had good experiences can post their stories, those of us who had dreadful experiences can post ours. Wouldn't you agree? The horrible sins you do read about here almost always go unpunished. So yes, they do need to be condemned. We have every right to speak out, and never chose to be placed in this situation [hell] in the first place.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on August 29, 2005, 11:43:00 PM
Okey dokey Anon ST troll who "came here looking for information on the industry and on some particular programs".[wink, wink]
And who KNOWS Karen doesn't post here...

How could you know she doesn't post here, yet know nothing of Fornits before you arrived to have your sensibilities assaulted?

Speaking of:
"...name-calling, swearing, personal attacks against people that are basically invented..."
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 190#120038 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10963&forum=37&start=190#120038)

Fortunately, they're moderated over there and on their best behavior. Good Thing.. see how they act without consequences.... They've really been acting out over here. You should post this URL so the other STs can read it for themselves.

Curious why you guys picked this particular thread to bombard and side track. Is SW a highly prefered program at ST?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 30, 2005, 08:39:00 AM
invented?  what the fuck do you know about it?  remember you just SENT your kid there, YOU didn't go.  

fuck you, you dirty, money grubbing, evil, child abuser.   :lol:


don't you have some teens to hate or something? anything else to do but troll, troll, troll?

see ya later, karen!!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on August 30, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
Which post says "invented?"
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on August 30, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
I am the person who posted about trying to point out the good people in the industry. I am not the same person who Deborah is referring to in her post below. I have not sent any of my children to a program. I have never abused a child in my care. I do not work for any program, nor am I being asked or paid to come on this board from the Struggling Teens website or any other website. There is more than one person on this board who does not agree with the blind hatred of all programs. There are many, many Anonymous souls on this board and most are not named Karen.  :roll:  Save the insults for the ones insulting you. I did not.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 30, 2005, 12:55:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-08-29 15:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The previous post was not by Karen.  She does not post here.



You know, I think this is the most immature, angry and irrational group of people on the entire internet. Congratulations!  I came here looking for information on the industry and on some particular programs, and what I found was a bunch of name-calling, swearing, personal attacks against people that are basically invented and little helpful information.  Do you really want this forum to be like this?"

this tupid bitch, Karen, said it here.  "invented"
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 03:46:00 PM
If the true-believer-posters here really hate anons so much--why not just ignore them?  

We anons can get just as much amusement or publicity for other points of view out of this site whether or not any of you respond.  Apparently (based on the numerous rants and frequent paranoid thinking that everyone is "Karen") it really takes an emotional toll on some of you to respond to the anons---so why not just let it go?

And for heaven's sake try to really comprehend that it is not ONE but MANY people who are posting anonymously.  Every now and then one of you says that you realize there are many anons but then that particular poster usuallygoes right back to interpreting every anon post as one particular boogy man---which may differ on the basis of which true believer is ranting.

It was funny but it's getting painful to watch---why don't you do what you can to preserve your mental health---try just ignoring unidentified posters adn see if that doesn't make you feel a whole lot calmer and rational
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 30, 2005, 04:21:00 PM
shut your pie-hole, karen.  shut it now.  you need to focus on getting your lame unemployed ass a job and on shutting your pie-hole.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on August 30, 2005, 04:41:00 PM
Now there is a mature response to someone you don't agree with. Sounds like someone has some growing up to do.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
Do you Fornits regulars-who seem to also post as Anons much of the time- I guess they must be Karen- know how ridiculous you look and how childish you are?  What is the point of this entire thread? You continue to bash some woman who apparently doesn't even post on this forum- perhaps never did. You can't go more than one post without insulting and foul language.  Boy, you sure make a good case for ALL teens being in programs.  Your parents sure fucked up with you!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 05:25:00 PM
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On 2005-08-30 12:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"If the true-believer-posters here really hate anons so much--why not just ignore them?  



We anons can get just as much amusement or publicity for other points of view out of this site whether or not any of you respond.  Apparently (based on the numerous rants and frequent paranoid thinking that everyone is "Karen") it really takes an emotional toll on some of you to respond to the anons---so why not just let it go?



And for heaven's sake try to really comprehend that it is not ONE but MANY people who are posting anonymously.  Every now and then one of you says that you realize there are many anons but then that particular poster usuallygoes right back to interpreting every anon post as one particular boogy man---which may differ on the basis of which true believer is ranting.



It was funny but it's getting painful to watch---why don't you do what you can to preserve your mental health---try just ignoring unidentified posters adn see if that doesn't make you feel a whole lot calmer and rational





"


 ::fuckoff::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 05:28:00 PM
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On 2005-08-30 14:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Your parents sure fucked up with you!"


Yes, that's true. That's why I found this forum in the first place, they sent me to an abusive program. So, yes, they did fuck up... bigtime.

::both::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 30, 2005, 06:08:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-08-30 14:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Do you Fornits regulars-who seem to also post as Anons much of the time- I guess they must be Karen- know how ridiculous you look and how childish you are?  What is the point of this entire thread? You continue to bash some woman who apparently doesn't even post on this forum- perhaps never did. You can't go more than one post without insulting and foul language.  Boy, you sure make a good case for ALL teens being in programs.  Your parents sure fucked up with you!"

what did i just tell you about your pie-hole, karen?  i said shut your pie-hole, not run it.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
What about you? When are you going to shut yours?

 :wstupid:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 12:48:00 AM
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On 2005-08-30 17:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What about you? When are you going to shut yours?



 :wstupid: "


Great response.  :roll: Stupid.  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 01:54:00 AM
You know what--- I know for a FACT Karen does not post here. You are bunch of spoiled brats, and your parents should have kept you in the program longer. Obviously you haven't been helped enough. This is why ALL teens need to be in programs. You are all scum!
karen?

(http://http://www.clipartreview.com/_gallery/_LG/15328883.jpg)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 08:10:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-08-30 17:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What about you? When are you going to shut yours?

 "

never.  i'm never going to shut it.  that's not the issue.  stop trying to shift the focus off YOUR pie-hole.

you were told shut your pie-hole, karen.  now shut it.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on August 31, 2005, 11:45:00 AM
And what makes your opinion better than someone else's? why would you be allowed to post your comments and someone else can't post theirs? Just because they don't agree? You seriously expect people to listen to you when you tell them to shut up? How delusional!!! Funny too!  :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 11:58:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-08-31 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"And what makes your opinion better than someone else's? why would you be allowed to post your comments and someone else can't post theirs? Just because they don't agree? You seriously expect people to listen to you when you tell them to shut up? How delusional!!! Funny too!  :wave: "

Hey, Karen!  Long-time, no talk.  Nice to see you lurking around insulting people.

Your opinion takes on serious gravitas!

How's things under the bridge?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 12:16:00 PM
That would be  "How ARE things under the bridge?"
Nice grammar, DJ.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 12:16:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-08-31 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"And what makes your opinion better than someone else's? why would you be allowed to post your comments and someone else can't post theirs? Just because they don't agree? You seriously expect people to listen to you when you tell them to shut up? How delusional!!! Funny too!  :wave: "


sometimes i get the feeling this troll is a middle school student.. possibly elementary.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 12:18:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 09:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"That would be  "How ARE things under the bridge?"

Nice grammar, DJ."


you think its funny to post this here, dont you?

hahaha- we are laughing at ya - dont ya hate people who correct grammar in person? in rela life? you know .. reality?

you just showed me what a scumbag you are by posting that. thanks!

try doing that in reali life.. youd get a swift punch in the mouth from me!  :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 09:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"That would be  "How ARE things under the bridge?"

Nice grammar, DJ."

It's a colloquialism, dopey.  "How's things?"

I'm not here to write a dissertation.  I'm here to second the motion that your pie-hole be shut forthwith.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
"How's things" is not an expression educated people use.  Sorry, stupid.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 12:32:00 PM
2005-08-31 08:45:00, Anonymous Wrote:

"And what makes your opinion better than someone else's?"

*Beginning a sentence with a conjunction is grammatically incorrect.

"why would you be allowed to post your comments and someone else can't post theirs?"

*You forgot to capitalize the first word of the sentence.  

"Just because they don't agree?"

*This is an ambiguous reference.  What doesn't agree, the opinions or the people?
 
"You seriously expect people to listen to you when you tell them to shut up?"

*This should have been phrased "Do you seriously expect..."

"How delusional!!! Funny too!"

*You completely forgot verbs.  Complete sentences require verbs.  These are sentence fragments.  Only one punctuation mark is required at the end of a sentence in the English language.  Then again, this scarcely qualifies as English.

It's no wonder you're out of work, darling.  How could you possibly write an understandable brief?

Have a great day, Karen!

_________________
"Compassion is the basis of morality"

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-08-31 09:44 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 12:35:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 09:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

""How's things" is not an expression educated people use.  Sorry, stupid."

I write in a vernacular style.  

Educated people use complete sentences.  "Sorry, stupid" is another fragment.

I can see you are not learning your lessons.  I'm disappointed in your lack of understanding.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on August 31, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
1) I am not Karen

2) I am not unemployed

3) I can spell perfectly, type perfectly, and use grammar perfectly.

However, this is a message board. Where is the rule that says that messages on a message board have to be in perfect English and grammatically correct? What was important was my message, not its grammar. Sometimes I wonder about the level of moronic commentary from some on this board. Who cares how grammatically correct the poster is? All some of you care about is telling some person named Karen to shut up, and for all I know, Karen doesn't exist anyway. Where is the intelligent debate? All I see is immaturity.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
" That would be "How ARE things under the bridge?"
Nice grammar, DJ."


Well, how are they?  :wave:

_________________
"Compassion is the basis of morality"

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-08-31 09:54 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 09:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"1) I am not Karen



2) I am not unemployed



3) I can spell perfectly, type perfectly, and use grammar perfectly.



However, this is a message board. Where is the rule that says that messages on a message board have to be in perfect English and grammatically correct? What was important was my message, not its grammar. Sometimes I wonder about the level of moronic commentary from some on this board. Who cares how grammatically correct the poster is? All some of you care about is telling some person named Karen to shut up, and for all I know, Karen doesn't exist anyway. Where is the intelligent debate? All I see is immaturity."

Just before you stated you can type and use grammar perfectly, you forgot periods at the end of statements #1 and #2.  Perfect!  

You're the one who started on the grammar topic, not me, Karen.  Please, go get a job.  You've got too much time on your hands...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on August 31, 2005, 01:01:00 PM
D.J. I did not post anything to you. That was some other anonymous person. My last comment on the board before the grammar issue came up was this one:
"And what makes your opinion better than someone else's? why would you be allowed to post your comments and someone else can't post theirs? Just because they don't agree? You seriously expect people to listen to you when you tell them to shut up? How delusional!!! Funny too!  "

That was directed at the person who keeps telling someone named Karen to shut their pie-hole, but they were directing that comment to me, although, I am not Karen, sorry.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 01:02:00 PM
"You know what--- I know for a FACT Karen does not post here."


How do you know?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 01:12:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 10:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"D.J. I did not post anything to you. That was some other anonymous person. My last comment on the board before the grammar issue came up was this one:

"And what makes your opinion better than someone else's? why would you be allowed to post your comments and someone else can't post theirs? Just because they don't agree? You seriously expect people to listen to you when you tell them to shut up? How delusional!!! Funny too!  "



That was directed at the person who keeps telling someone named Karen to shut their pie-hole, but they were directing that comment to me, although, I am not Karen, sorry.





"

Maybe you should get a login name to avoid any confusion.

I wholeheartedly agree: Karen's pie-hole should be shut.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 02:43:00 PM
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Karen doesn't exist anyway


Hello Karen!

Only Karen posts that 'she doesn't exist'. Who else would know? Are you Karen's husband? Lesbian lover? Cunt cheese eater? HOd wo you know ?   :rofl:  :rofl:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 03:37:00 PM
What makes you think this Karen does post? Anything signed with her name is so ignorant that it has to be one of you wonderful Fornits kids- or supposed adults.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 03:43:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 12:37:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What makes you think this Karen does post? Anything signed with her name is so ignorant that it has to be one of you wonderful Fornits kids- or supposed adults."

You hit it on the head there, anon.  Everything she writes is so ignorant that it could only be our favorite troll, Karen.

I know for a fact she posts because I've had discussions with her on this very board.  She's extremely ignorant, self-righteous, bellicose, degrading, hateful and, most of all, hates teenagers, especially her own.  

Yeah, that's her alright.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
Yeah, we all believe you DJ. Like you have a clue. Show me where this Karen has signed her name and you know it's her and not 4 or 5 other people.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on August 31, 2005, 04:52:00 PM
"self-righteous, bellicose, degrading, hateful"

I know someone who fits that and it's not Karen

 :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
Maybe all this stuff about Karen---illogical and paranoid as it sounds---is just some kind of a stab by the site regulars at trying to get everyone to use a user name.

Maybe they think by accusing everyone of being Karen they can get other anon posters so exasperated that they will say "OK just to prove I'm not Karen, I'll post as such and such a name".

I know that this user name thing has been something that certain posters have obsessed over in the past, and maybe I'm giving these people way too much credit (by suggesting that they're actually displaying logical goal-oriented behavior here).  

It's just so hard to believe that so many people intelligent enough to read and write (to a degree at least) can really be imagining that every other anon poster is from this one person Karen who others say doesn't even post here
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 06:44:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 13:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

""self-righteous, bellicose, degrading, hateful"



I know someone who fits that and it's not Karen



 :rofl:



"

yeah, because you forgot "stupid cunt"

now it does describe karen
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 31, 2005, 06:46:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 12:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yeah, we all believe you DJ. Like you have a clue. Show me where this Karen has signed her name and you know it's her and not 4 or 5 other people. "

ha ha ha.  "we all" as in "karen" :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 06:53:00 PM
You know, I have been a supporter of this site and the underlying goal of exposing some of these dangerous programs.  I am really disappointed at the direction you have taken it and I am going to leave. Is this really what you want people seeing when they come to this site? Are you proud of this language and immaturity?  It is really a shame you have destroyed your credibility with this obscene language and angry attacks.
Please take a look at yourselves and perhaps think before you post.  If I were the owner/moderator of this site I would remove some of these posts simply because they are so ignorant and mean.
Gone.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 11:19:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 15:25:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Maybe all this stuff about Karen---illogical and paranoid as it sounds---is just some kind of a stab by the site regulars at trying to get everyone to use a user name.



Maybe they think by accusing everyone of being Karen they can get other anon posters so exasperated that they will say "OK just to prove I'm not Karen, I'll post as such and such a name".



I know that this user name thing has been something that certain posters have obsessed over in the past, and maybe I'm giving these people way too much credit (by suggesting that they're actually displaying logical goal-oriented behavior here).  



It's just so hard to believe that so many people intelligent enough to read and write (to a degree at least) can really be imagining that every other anon poster is from this one person Karen who others say doesn't even post here"


Duh! You should know where Karen came from! She was a troll who accidentely gave a little too much info about herself out. THAT is the lesson here. IF ya gunna troll, try not to get caught!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 11:21:00 PM
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On 2005-08-31 15:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You know, I have been a supporter of this site and the underlying goal of exposing some of these dangerous programs.  I am really disappointed at the direction you have taken it and I am going to leave. Is this really what you want people seeing when they come to this site? Are you proud of this language and immaturity?  It is really a shame you have destroyed your credibility with this obscene language and angry attacks.

Please take a look at yourselves and perhaps think before you post.  If I were the owner/moderator of this site I would remove some of these posts simply because they are so ignorant and mean.

Gone."


LOL! This has to be one of the best posts ever. Since your gone, I know youre not reading this... and won't respond, (actually I suspect you ARE reading this- liar), but anyways... nobody cares if you stay or go. Hell, you dont even have a username-- you think anyone will notice. NOPE! Nor does anyone care.

The trolls who try the old 'ill pretend im one of them' posts always forget that ... nobody gives a shit what you think.

plus its pretty obvious you are karen. hehe
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on August 31, 2005, 11:28:00 PM
Yeh, kinda goes with the territory on an unmoderated forum.
Anon should've stopped reading this thread somewhere around page 5 or 6.
Why would s/he, or anyone else for that matter, continue to read messages they consider 'unpleasant', then blame others for their discomfort?
I wonder why the anon had no comment about the rude/mean/ignorant contributions made by the ST trolls???
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
"She was a troll who accidentely gave a little too much info about herself out. THAT is the lesson here. IF ya gunna troll, try not to get caught!"

Uh- I don't exactly think that is what happened. Seems like some Fornits kid did a witch hunt, decided she was the parent from ST who was posting, and posted her email address and a supposed phone number which turned out to not even be correct. There was no real proof that she ever had posted on this forum.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 01, 2005, 09:41:00 AM
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All this was not exactly what I had in mind when I started the thread.


Its fornits, its got a mind of its own.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
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On 2005-09-01 06:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

""She was a troll who accidentely gave a little too much info about herself out. THAT is the lesson here. IF ya gunna troll, try not to get caught!"



Uh- I don't exactly think that is what happened. Seems like some Fornits kid did a witch hunt, decided she was the parent from ST who was posting, and posted her email address and a supposed phone number which turned out to not even be correct. There was no real proof that she ever had posted on this forum.  "

Hey, Karen!  Nice to have you back again.

Good thing that we don't operate needing "absolute proof."  

We operate by "preponderance of evidence" and it suggests that Karen was posting, was insulting people unprovoked, being nasty, making ad hominem arguments, etc.  

The problem was that she got "busted" by a "dumb fornits kid" who was able to forensically compare her verbiage, punctuation and even personal information she stupidly posted on both sites.  

If she were smarter than the person who blew up her spot, she'd be fine.  It appears she wasn't nearly as smart as those whom she chose to disparage and was furiously and rightfully ridiculed for it.

She didn't like that at all and consequently turned up the rhetoric.  She brought it on herself and deserved every bit of it.

If you're not Karen, what's your vested interest in supporting that coke-sniffing, teen-hating drunken sot?

Love ya!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
"If you're not Karen, what's your vested interest in supporting that coke-sniffing, teen-hating drunken sot?"

Well, I'm not Karen but I suppose it doesn't matter much if you believe that or not.

And as far as supporting her, it's not her personally, I just think it's a misuse of this site to "out" people when you really are not sure that you've named the correct name---a little evidence just isn't enough to slander someone.  

And about the posting of "Karen in Dallas"'s phone number that happened here: what if some poor woman in Dallas got harassed because a fuck nut here listed her phone number---and it hadn't occur to said fuck nut that there might be more than one person in Dallas with that name. It's not a responsible, ethical way to act, period.

The terms "coke-sniffing" and "drunken" used by a previous poster to describe this woman may or may not be slanderous, I don't know.  They do sound like descriptive terms that by personal admission would apply to many of her opponents at this site.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 12:26:00 PM
Anon- I am not Karen, either, but I am very familiar with her from the other, more reputable site. She is an extremely intelligent lawyer and an excellent parent whose kid has bounced back after his wilderness and TBS stints to be a super-star in every way.  She told me she posted a few times on this site and then got out when she realized there was no rational discussion going on.
She also told me she was harassed by instant message and email after her contact information was made public on this forum- by Deborah among others.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 12:44:00 PM
So it WAS the correct information and she DID post here.

That's what I suspected.  Thank you for validating my opinion.

By the way, you can't slander an anonymous person.  Who's going to sue for saying "Joe in St. Louis is a cocksucker."  Get real, stupid.

I heard about the coke-sniffing and excessive drinking from one of your "buddies" at the "more reputable site."  I'd be careful what I said to those people under the guise of "confidence."  They'll sell ya down the river in a heartbeat.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on September 01, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
If Karen ceased to be "anonymous" anymore because someone posted her name, phone number and email address, then YES she can sue for slander. If you will notice, the "hearing" about coke sniffing and excessive drinking is just that, "hearing". It's not like you have a positive drug test or a conviction for DUI or possession. So you can't assume that info you "heard" about is true, nor can you accuse someone of that and discredit their reputation based on lies someone else told about someone they don't like.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 12:57:00 PM
Whose reputation, "Karen in Dallas"?  I don't know her last name, her address or anything else.

All I know is that she came on this board, ranted, raved, acted like a total ass, pissed some kids off and they started fucking with her using her own tactics.

I also heard that this lady, "Karen in Dallas," has a drinking and cocaine problem.  If any over-reaching shyster attorney tries to engage me over "slander" I'll just forward them the email I received from another ST parent describing the same.  Maybe she shouldn't discuss personal stuff with the miscreants at ST.

I have no problem dropping you morons in the shit.  I will be glad to reacquaint you with your limitations.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on September 01, 2005, 12:59:00 PM
Takes one to know one

 :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on September 01, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
Excuse me...
I challenge either of you to show where I posted Karen's contact information. In fact, I disagreed and commented that I would remove it if I were the moderator.
Who's fabricating? You or Karen?

What's that ST motto:
Better to get it 'right' than get it first.

Even better. While I was posting you wrote:
So you can't assume that info you "heard" about is true, nor can you accuse someone of that and discredit their reputation based on lies someone else told about someone they don't like.

Hmmm.




[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2005-09-01 10:17 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on September 01, 2005, 01:28:00 PM
I personally never said you posted Karen's information Deborah. Maybe someone else said that.All I know is someone posted it. I don't recall who.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
Anonymity - carefully crafted plausible deniability.

"It wasn't me, it must have been some other anon."

Pretty sad...

BTW, Deborah, these folks want to MAKE the rules, not PLAY BY THEM.

_________________
"Compassion is the basis of morality"

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-09-01 10:43 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 02:46:00 PM
Uh- if we are talking about the same Karen, she is a competitive runner and has been all her life. She doesn't drink or do cocaine.  Her kid didn't even do drugs.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
"All I know is that she came on this board, ranted, raved, acted like a total ass, pissed some kids off and they started fucking with her using her own tactics."

That seems to be a major exaggeration. You can not even identify her posts- many anons (including me) were posting. They replied, in kind, to the nasty, ranting posts you were putting out there.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
Dysfunction Junction says ; "I have no problem dropping you morons in the shit. I will be glad to reacquaint you with your limitations."  

We "morons" apparently are the legion of anon posters at this site---all or most of whom are to be considered "Karen" by the more delusional true believers among us including Dysfunctional.

DJ, you've got problems alright and it had nothing to do with dropping anyone in the shit...you can't...you've got no power over me or any other anon.  You're just some aging computer geek with a yen for acting like and sympathetizing with the rowdy usually-not-too-bright miscreants who post here.

You're going to "reacquaint" us with our limitations. Sonny boy--you couldn't reacquaint yourself with your mama---you obviously know nothing about the law as it applies to slander---just like you know nothing about teens or their problems.

So full yourself and yet to wrong on all counts---an amusing though unfortunate combination.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
More blah, blah, blah about how it's okay when you do it and shameful when others do.

It's no wonder you people fucked your kids up so bad.  It's all very clear:  Do as I SAY, not as I DO.

And, yes, Karen is a competitive MOUTH runner.  Maybe it's a symptom of the cocaine and alcohol abuse.  Drunks and coke-heads love to prattle on...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
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On 2005-09-01 12:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Dysfunction Junction says ; "I have no problem dropping you morons in the shit. I will be glad to reacquaint you with your limitations."  



We "morons" apparently are the legion of anon posters at this site---all or most of whom are to be considered "Karen" by the more delusional true believers among us including Dysfunctional.



DJ, you've got problems alright and it had nothing to do with dropping anyone in the shit...you can't...you've got no power over me or any other anon.  You're just some aging computer geek with a yen for acting like and sympathetizing with the rowdy usually-not-too-bright miscreants who post here.



You're going to "reacquaint" us with our limitations. Sonny boy--you couldn't reacquaint yourself with your mama---you obviously know nothing about the law as it applies to slander---just like you know nothing about teens or their problems.



So full yourself and yet to wrong on all counts---an amusing though unfortunate combination.





"

So bring on the lawsuit, genius, and see what happens.

You people are so full of vitriol you don't even read before you spew.  You must really have some deep-seated issues.

An "aging computer geek"?  Too funny.  If 35 is "aging," then Karen, the cokehead is "ancient"! :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 03:23:00 PM
I am Karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 03:24:00 PM
No,I AM KAREN
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 03:27:00 PM
Now, now, ladies...  There's plenty of room for more Karens.  We already have about six of 'em, each one dumber than the last.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 03:29:00 PM
I am Karen- but I don't like coke.  I drink Pepsi.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 03:50:00 PM
I am Karen. You  may have heard the rumor that i was involved with Dysfunctional on the sly last year for a couple of weeks---and that he's, well let's just say, MUCH less impressive than his ego would suggest.

Hope that sheds some light on why he's so cranky
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 04:04:00 PM
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On 2005-09-01 12:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am Karen. You  may have heard the rumor that i was involved with Dysfunctional on the sly last year for a couple of weeks---and that he's, well let's just say, MUCH less impressive than his ego would suggest.



Hope that sheds some light on why he's so cranky"

Karen, please.  If you could just give me another chance... I know I can make you happy.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 04:42:00 PM
See DJ---you really can be funny without being a jerk. But don't keep us in suspense---is the rumor true?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 04:43:00 PM
HI!  Are You still working for your "personal-guru"????   Did ALA open at Europe?? or Craig is in a new crisis....  keep in contact!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 05:33:00 PM
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On 2005-09-01 12:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am Karen. You  may have heard the rumor that i was involved with Dysfunctional on the sly last year for a couple of weeks---and that he's, well let's just say, MUCH less impressive than his ego would suggest.



Hope that sheds some light on why he's so cranky"

I'm Karen's significant other.  Yes, I know she likes to sleep around with computer jerks, sniff a little cocaine here and there, get drunk, blow bikers in the parking lot of the bar and smells like low tide at Coney Island, but I have to draw the line where you say she hates teens.  That's just not fair.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 05:39:00 PM
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On 2005-09-01 13:43:00, Anonymous wrote:

"HI!  Are You still working for your "personal-guru"????   Did ALA open at Europe?? or Craig is in a new crisis....  keep in contact!"

No, unfortunately I've hit some hard times.  I'm working for my pimp now.  That damn kid made me go broke.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 06:08:00 PM
No, I AM the real Karen--- really.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 06:17:00 PM
I fucked a Karen once in Dallas, it was mediocre at best.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 06:42:00 PM
you better be careful.  

using the name "karen" and the words "dallas" and "fucked" in the same sentence is slander!  

you gonna get yo' ass sued off, sonny! :mad:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 07:05:00 PM
I stand by my statement.  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 07:56:00 PM
don' git smart wit' me, sonny.  you gon' cry fo' yo' mama when i'm dun wit' ya.

you gon' git sued.  dat's right, boy, sued up real nice like.  you obviously don' know nuthin' 'bout the law, sonny!

my girl karen gon' git ya fer slanda!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 07:57:00 PM
::mecry::  ::mecry::  ::mecry::

You aren't very nice, Karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
oops- I mean.. Karen's friend.  :rofl:  


:wink:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 01, 2005, 08:01:00 PM
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On 2005-09-01 15:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

"No, I AM the real Karen--- really. "

Mind if I slam my hard drive up your expansion slot one more time for old times' sake?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
Slam away...  ::blushing::

Karen
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 08:56:00 PM
But the poor guy doesn't have much to slam with---isn't that the problem Karen?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 02, 2005, 07:54:00 AM
Actually, the problem is that the expansion slot is 5 1/4" wide and 1 1/2" high.  Takes a hell of a big drive fill that bay.

I believe an earlier poster described it as "gaping."  Banging Karen is like waving a wiffle-ball bat in a garbage can.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 01:52:00 PM
You're a classy guy, Dysfunction. Why don't you back off now.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 02, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
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On 2005-09-01 17:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"But the poor guy doesn't have much to slam with---isn't that the problem Karen?"

Why would you post this and then tell me to "back off"?  Why don't you back off?  It's you that keeps the the thread alive.  If you don't like it, don't post...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
You still seem to think that there is only one anon posting at this site.

The prior poster is not the one who made the slam comment that you reference in your recent post

It's almost incomprehensible that you seem not to be able to process that the anon label is being used by many, many posters---is that scary to you, what can't you seem to take that in??
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 02, 2005, 03:54:00 PM
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On 2005-09-02 12:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You still seem to think that there is only one anon posting at this site.



The prior poster is not the one who made the slam comment that you reference in your recent post



It's almost incomprehensible that you seem not to be able to process that the anon label is being used by many, many posters---is that scary to you, what can't you seem to take that in??"

I've told you before: you're ALL THE SAME TO ME.  Nameless, faceless jackasses.

Would you be happier if I asked the previous anon (moron) why he/she selectively admonishes me when I only responded to the crude comment of the "other" anon?  Why wouldn't this person, if they're so concerned about "decency" tell the person who posted degrading comments about me?

I'll tell you why.  You are not concerned with decency, fair play, academic discussion or anything else like it.  You are only concerned with "one-upmanship" and "gotchaisms."  So take your feigned appeal to decency and pound it directly up your ass.  No doubt it will fit without even touching the sides.

Does that make you happy?  Of course it doesn't.  Then again, I couldn't care less, so the end result is the same.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 04:13:00 PM
DJ, take the anger elsewhere. You are destroying this forum. I am not an adult, and I am posting as an anon because I don't feel like being the brunt of your foul language, but please just knock off this whole thing. It is disgusting to everyone but you- so take it somewhere else. There is simply no point. It is just vulgar and there is no reason to attack this person -or these people. They haven't done anything to you and you really need to just stop.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 04:38:00 PM
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On 2005-09-02 13:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"DJ, take the anger elsewhere. You are destroying this forum. I am not an adult, and I am posting as an anon because I don't feel like being the brunt of your foul language, but please just knock off this whole thing. It is disgusting to everyone but you- so take it somewhere else. There is simply no point. It is just vulgar and there is no reason to attack this person -or these people. They haven't done anything to you and you really need to just stop."


another 'ill post as one of them' posts... haha.. jesus. i read this thread and it obviously IS the same anon posting day after DAY after DAY your hate and puke like posts. if anyone needs to give it a rest its you.. your life must suck. its a nice day, try going outside maybe/?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on September 02, 2005, 06:20:00 PM
I am also anonymous but I haven't posted in two days. So this cannot be the same Anonymous person posting all the anonymous posts day after day can it? The way I see it, there are probably 6 to 8 different anonymous individuals posting at different times of the day or evening hours.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 02, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
i'm not sure what's worse.  one retarded anon or 6 or 8 of 'em.  if it's 6 or 8, that's a bunch of people who only have one thing in common - no life.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 02, 2005, 06:49:00 PM
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On 2005-08-05 17:39:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"So where are these amazing counter-points Karen? I am going to ask you three questions, and I would hope you could provide good answers with supporting documentation. Please feel free to cite your sources, and or applicable links.



1) What are the success rates demonstrated over a 5 and 10 year period for programs you sent your child?



2)Of the relapse rate how many are due to post-tramuatic stress disorders? In that number if at all possible please include a break down of the types of relapses. For example, suicide, self mutilation, substance abuse, and violence towards others would be very helpful.



3) What reputable body of psycologists certified both of the programs? NATSAP, WWASP, NATWC, and other such gentleman's organizations need not apply to this catergory. I am refering to state liscensing bodies, and more specifically national leagues of reputable psycologists. The APA would be a good place to start.



I only ask you these questions as I wish to give you the benifit of the doubt that you are not the troll so many are making you out to be.

 "

karen, you may open your pie-hole for the express purpose of answering the question.  otherwise, shut it.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 02, 2005, 06:51:00 PM
Quote

On 2005-09-02 13:15:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"A wiffle ball bat in a garbage can??



 :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 07:00:00 PM
Yes I agree. Some of you not so anonymous posters have no life. I see your posts all hours of the day or night. Mine, on the other hand, are only when I have free time, which isn't often.  :silly:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 10:52:00 PM
Well I post as about 5 different anons.. so actually theres only 2 of us.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 11:05:00 PM
"karen, you may open your pie-hole for the express purpose of answering the question. otherwise, shut it." And on and on and on!!!

I've been watching this comedy for weeks now--- this looking for "karen"---ascribing this or that to her---imagining her in disguise in various posts---building scenarios around her.  

Don't you get it people, there is no karen at this site anymore---if she ever was here she's long gone.  I mean, wouldn't you be, if you were in her position??  What reason in the world would she have to continue posting here---if she likes to internet she can easily go to strugglingteens and regale everyone with stories about what goes on at fornits, what lowlifes post here, how immature they are, etc, etc, for about a hundred years, just on the basis of the "karen in dallas" thread.

It's over i would imagine as far as karen is concerned--maybe. in the interest of some slight amount of dignity on the part of fornits posters--it should be over in terms of this thread as well.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 11:16:00 PM
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What reason in the world would she have to continue posting here


Because she is hate filled, and enjoys taking it out on 'teens', even though she doesn't realize most posters here are adults.   :rofl:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 11:25:00 PM
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it should be over in terms of this thread as well.


LOL! You can't help but respond though, can you. If you really wanted to drop it, you wouldn't respond. But, you can't help yourself, can you, Karen?  :wink:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 11:38:00 PM
But....as far as I know NONE of these anonymous posters are Karen. I know my name doesn't even begin with a K. So keep on living the fantasy about Karen if it blows your skirt up I guess. But at least one of these anonymous posters (me) isn't Karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 01:38:00 AM
I am Karen. :em:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 01:39:00 AM
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But....as far as I know NONE of these anonymous posters are Karen.


Wow- did you figure that out all by yourself! I am impressed!  :roll:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 01:48:00 AM
But... as far as I know, they ALL are Karen. I mean, I know who I am, but how do I know who all the other anons are. I could be Karen for all you know. The only person who knows these anons aren't Karen, is Karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 03, 2005, 08:09:00 AM
anon, remember that it is you that keeps the thread going!

sing this to the tune of queen's "keep yourself alive":

keep this thread alive!
keep this thread alive!
just keep up that bitchy whining
to keep this thread alive!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 10:13:00 AM
And this person who you don't even know and who doesn't even post here- this Karen- you know that she is filled with hate, hates teens, uses drugs etc.  YOu know all this how?
You have Dysfunction, who is obviously a fat slob who can't have real-life relationships, making vulgar remarks against this adult who you have made into a paragon on a message board.  The point is......???
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 03, 2005, 10:35:00 AM
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On 2005-09-03 07:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"And this person who you don't even know and who doesn't even post here- this Karen- you know that she is filled with hate, hates teens, uses drugs etc.  YOu know all this how?

You have Dysfunction, who is obviously a fat slob who can't have real-life relationships, making vulgar remarks against this adult who you have made into a paragon on a message board.  The point is......???"

How do you "know" what you're saying?  I know for a fact that you don't "know," especially about me.  You couldn't be further off the mark.

I have lots of relationships: a lovely wife, good friends, many social acquaintences.

I'm also 6'1", 240lbs, heavyweight bodybuilding champion, former collegiate football player, full-contact kickboxer/hybrid wrestler (jiu jitsu) and all-around healthy and fit guy today.  I'm a natural athlete and always have been.

What you're doing is called "projection."  You are more than likely a fat, sedentary, lazy woman with no life to speak of.  Don't get all hostile with me and project all over the place because you hate yourself and what you've become.  It's no reflection on me, I assure you.

Nice try though.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
How would you KNOW that person who posted to you just now is a woman? You don't KNOW do you? Nobody really KNOWS who any of these people are, well, except we know who you are.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 03, 2005, 10:52:00 AM
I don't know.  That's why I said "more than likely," signifying an educated guess.

Why don't you fill me in on the details?

Funny how you squirm like that.  That tells me, more than likely, I hit the nail on the head.

Have another twinkie and another dose of self-loathing.   :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
But I'm not even the person who posted to you, who said you didnt KNOW who that was. I dont know who that is either, but my point was, neither do you. I am neither overweight nor a woman.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 03, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
That's sort of the focus of this whole thread: Anon posters who LOVE to bash, but cravenly avoid identifying themselves to retain plausible deniability.

"It wasn't me."  "It was the other anon."  "I wasn't even online at the time."  Blah, blah, blah.

All I'm saying is if you (collectively) are so proud of your (collective) ingenious commentary, why not take credit for it?

Since you (collectively) don't want to be recognized for your (collective) distinguished achievements on this thread, I make it convenient for me by referring to you (collectively) as "Karen."  Until you (collective)give me some other way to refer to you (collective), I'll just continue to call you (collective) "Karen."
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 01:29:00 PM
DJ because of you and some others, basically tearing other people apart for their beliefs and views, just because of where their experiences are, or who they are, is the reason most post anonymously. I used to have a user name, but no more. I will not be abused verbally just because of who I am. When I posted with my user name, you trashed my very existance. Without a user name, you can't do that.  Since you don't know those anonymous posters, you cannot trash them just based on their name. Hence, the anonymity. Do you get it now? Besides, what do you care WHAT their names are anyway? I suppose it is for the very reason I stated above. To trash them just for WHO they are and not WHAT they think.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 03, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
::mecry::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
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On 2005-09-03 10:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"DJ because of you and some others, basically tearing other people apart for their beliefs and views, just because of where their experiences are, or who they are, is the reason most post anonymously. I used to have a user name, but no more. I will not be abused verbally just because of who I am. When I posted with my user name, you trashed my very existance. Without a user name, you can't do that.  Since you don't know those anonymous posters, you cannot trash them just based on their name. Hence, the anonymity. Do you get it now? Besides, what do you care WHAT their names are anyway? I suppose it is for the very reason I stated above. To trash them just for WHO they are and not WHAT they think."


Aww.. little anon got their feewings hurt by the big bad dysfunction?  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :roll:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 03, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
What I'm wondering is how fragile and pathetic these little babies must be in LIFE?  If you can't handle written words on a computer screen from someone you've never met, how the hell do you handle real-life criticism?   :cry:

Whatever I said to you before must have hit you dead between the eyes to bother you that much.  Maybe some introspection is in order.  

My experience has always been that you get the biggest reaction out of those who have just been hit flush with something they deeply believe is true about themselves.  Seems to be the case here.

Have you not noticed that your obtuse commentaries fail to get a rise out of me?  That should tell you something.  Feel free to take another poke at it though.   Your compulsion to respond is a true sickness but maybe you'll stumble onto something.  You just never know...

Love ya!

_________________
"Compassion is the basis of morality"

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-09-03 11:07 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
In life people don't have the need to say the ugly and hurtful things you, Dysfunctional, say on these boards. You hide behind your keyboard and use crude language and insult people you don't even know.
We are not babies- there is no reason for anyone to suffer the abuse you have heaped on everyone who dares to challenge any of your thinking. When you run out of arguments, you resort to nasty sexual slurs.
This thread isn't about Karen, trolls or teens. It is about your need to feel powerful and belittle others.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
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suffer the abuse


Abuse? :roll:  Try going to one of the programs discussed here.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
That's the point- there are not any programs being discussed here. There is simply an outrageous attack going on by some angry and mean people.  Previous attempts to discuss programs on other threads led to similar nastiness.
How does calling someone a "c---" further a discussion of abuses in programs? How does making unfounded accusations and slurs against one person help convince anyone that teen BM programs are bad?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 05:52:00 PM
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On 2005-09-03 13:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"That's the point- there are not any programs being discussed here. There is simply an outrageous attack going on by some angry and mean people.  Previous attempts to discuss programs on other threads led to similar nastiness.

How does calling someone a "c---" further a discussion of abuses in programs? How does making unfounded accusations and slurs against one person help convince anyone that teen BM programs are bad?  "


huh? who are you talking to? does this thread bother you THAT much? if so.. why? wtf is wrong with you?  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 05:57:00 PM
Doesn't make you feel kind of smarmy just to read this thread?  That's how it feels to me.

Also amazing is the apparent pride that DJ seems to have his mean comments and strange interpretations of other posters as Karen or as fat women or whatever---when common sense tells you that this is no way that he can know really which anon  he is interacting with.  Sad but I guess the veneer of certainty is awfully important to some people

I have a theory that whatever situation a person is in, he/she finds ways to act out previous dysfunctional patterns in the new situation, unless and until these patterns are confronted, thought about, and insightfully changed

I'm wondering if DJ ought to at least consider prior patterns of magical thinking about really "knowing" people who he actually does not, and also patterns of self-congratulatory esteem about being mean, petty and vindictive with others to build himself up---especially in times of uncertaintly
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 06:26:00 PM
"does this thread bother you THAT much? if so.. why? wtf is wrong with you?"

Yes, it does bother me.  I think it should bother anyone with any sense of decency. It is an unwarranted, crude attack by someone who has some strange sense of how to treat others.

I agree- Dysfunctional really should take a look at his posts here and try to understand what is leading him to this vicious and abnormal behavior.

Whether or not there is a Karen here- or ever was-the regulars on this forum- many of whom actually have some good information to share- should be embarassed by this thread.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 06:26:00 PM
:wstupid:  :wstupid:  :wstupid:  :smokin:  :silly:  :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 06:27:00 PM
I am embarassed for you, for continuing to come back and post... and for being serious. You can't be serious.. but you are.  :rofl:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 09:38:00 PM
Last post reads: "I am embarassed for you, for continuing to come back and post... and for being serious. You can't be serious.. but you are"

So what is your point---are you for and against the likes of Dysfunctional?  Not much explanation there in your statement, fella, which reads "...embarassed for you, for continuing to come back and post".  Even though you yourself are posting right now, correct?  

And "...for being serious"; so being serious is embarrassing to you too, now that is interesting: please elaborate.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 10:30:00 PM
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On 2005-09-03 18:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Last post reads: "I am embarassed for you, for continuing to come back and post... and for being serious. You can't be serious.. but you are"



So what is your point---are you for and against the likes of Dysfunctional?  Not much explanation there in your statement, fella, which reads "...embarassed for you, for continuing to come back and post".  Even though you yourself are posting right now, correct?  



And "...for being serious"; so being serious is embarrassing to you too, now that is interesting: please elaborate."


Um... riiiiight. Seek help fast!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLord on September 03, 2005, 10:47:00 PM
dont any of yooz know anything./. ? i am friends with karen and we talk all the tyme! she duz post here regularlie and told me so on struglging teen sight. karen i want your hot bod.. i like em chunky.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 11:07:00 PM
Last poster---for god's sake learn to use Spell Check---your post looks like gibberish (if you're drunk never mind---maybe that explains it)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLord on September 03, 2005, 11:12:00 PM
why ya got tooz bash my speling/? karen i thot we were frends?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 03, 2005, 11:16:00 PM
In case you did not know he was mocking me.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
Shows you what a nice bunch this is- making fun of Overlordd (2 Ds) because he has trouble with spelling. At least he has some intelligence and a future.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
Who says he's got some intelligence, why doesn't he use it then?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2005, 02:18:00 PM
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On 2005-09-04 06:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Shows you what a nice bunch this is- making fun of Overlordd (2 Ds) because he has trouble with spelling. At least he has some intelligence and a future. "


whoever said this was a nice bunch?  ::bigmouth::  ::unhappy::  ::fuckoff::  ::both::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 09:48:00 AM
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On 2005-09-03 15:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

""does this thread bother you THAT much? if so.. why? wtf is wrong with you?"



Yes, it does bother me.  I think it should bother anyone with any sense of decency. It is an unwarranted, crude attack by someone who has some strange sense of how to treat others.



I agree- Dysfunctional really should take a look at his posts here and try to understand what is leading him to this vicious and abnormal behavior.



Whether or not there is a Karen here- or ever was-the regulars on this forum- many of whom actually have some good information to share- should be embarassed by this thread. "

"You have Dysfunction, who is obviously a fat slob who can't have real-life relationships, making vulgar remarks against this adult who you have made into a paragon on a message board. The point is......???"

"if she likes to internet she can easily go to strugglingteens and regale everyone with stories about what goes on at fornits, what lowlifes post here, how immature they are, etc, etc, for about a hundred years"

"But the poor guy doesn't have much to slam with---isn't that the problem Karen?"

"DJ, you've got problems alright and it had nothing to do with dropping anyone in the shit...you can't...you've got no power over me or any other anon. You're just some aging computer geek with a yen for acting like and sympathetizing with the rowdy usually-not-too-bright miscreants who post here."

"I am Karen. You may have heard the rumor that i was involved with Dysfunctional on the sly last year for a couple of weeks---and that he's, well let's just say, MUCH less impressive than his ego would suggest."

"The terms "coke-sniffing" and "drunken" used by a previous poster to describe this woman may or may not be slanderous, I don't know. They do sound like descriptive terms that by personal admission would apply to many of her opponents at this site."

"What makes you think this Karen does post? Anything signed with her name is so ignorant that it has to be one of you wonderful Fornits kids- or supposed adults."

"   "How's things" is not an expression educated people use. Sorry, stupid."

"Sometimes I wonder about the level of moronic commentary from some on this board"

"Boy, you sure make a good case for ALL teens being in programs. Your parents sure fucked up with you!"

"You are bunch of spoiled brats, and your parents should have kept you in the program longer. Obviously you haven't been helped enough. This is why ALL teens need to be in programs. You are all scum! "

"You know, I think this is the most immature, angry and irrational group of people on the entire internet. "

Deborah- I'm not Karen or a sidekick or whatever. But you SERIOUSLY need to get a life. Who the hell cares who these people are who post? If you disagree with them, fine. As long as registration isn't required in order to post, people are going to post as Anons. Even those who register are usually not revealing much of their identity. So what? Get over it, please. I know you got burned on the other thread and made to look like a complete fool, but it's time to cease your little quest for WHO ARE THE ANONS. No one cares. Call them all Karen. Call them all assholes. But please get a life"
************************************************

Thanks for the advice.  I took a look at why I am so mean.  I found the above reasons.  Ones that strangely went unconfronted by the anon (Karen) who feels the need to confront "dysfunctional behavior."  

I guess that's only when the behavior isn't of service to her.  What a surprise, a hypocritical anon (Karen).  

No wonder these suckers provide so much fodder for programs.  They're the perfect target: self-righteous, ignorant and indignant.  

Just the kind of people who need their kids "fixed" because they (parents) obviously have no part in the problem...Yeah, right.



_________________
"Compassion is the basis of morality"

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-09-08 06:50 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 10:56:00 AM
This pathetic thread was on its way into eternity but then you just had to bring it back to point out that the anonymous poster(s)were being mean to you.

Point taken---you treat other people like shit in the name of debate and some other people treat you like shit also That's often how life goes, I hope that doesn't surprise you


Actually it looks like the whole board is dying---the only going concern is the Katrina section and what's that got to do with therapeutic schools?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 11:13:00 AM
Thanks for the bump.

It would be just as dead if you didn't respond.  Obsession-compulsion-obsession-compulsion.  It's a cycle.

I was on vacation and just wanted to actually answer a question posed of me.  I know you wouldn't understand that, so I expect another pithy one-liner, as your compulsion demands.

_________________
"Compassion is the basis of morality"

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-09-08 08:25 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 04:13:00 PM
So you returned from vacation----and you just had to rush to your computer and pull up this inactive thread so you could respond.   Whole new levels of OCD there DJ.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
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On 2005-09-08 07:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Actually it looks like the whole board is dying-- "


No, Karen, this forum is not dying. It is always growing because parents continue to send their children to abusive programs, as you chose to. Nice to have you back Karen, we missed you.  ::birthday::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 05:19:00 PM
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On 2005-09-08 13:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So you returned from vacation----and you just had to rush to your computer and pull up this inactive thread so you could respond.   Whole new levels of OCD there DJ."

Yeah, I was in a big rush to pull up this thread.  Where did you get that from?  

Oh yeah, you made it up in your convoluted, mixed-up, snake-filled head, just like every other misguided barb you've tried to stick me with while simultaneously trying to say I do it to "others" (you).

Not only are you an obsessive-compulsive freak, you are the ultimate projectionist.  It's been shown again and again.  Why do you continue to label me as what you are?

One thing will always be different between us though.  I spent my entire adult life caring for and mentoring young men and women to be successful in life, to be who they are and to maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses while applying themselves to the inevitable daily struggles of life.  

You, on the other hand, were an abominable failure with your own child.  Because of your own shortcomings and propensity to project and blame others for your own behavior, your child suffered.  Don't ever forget that.

No matter how you rail at me, you are, and always will be, an abject failure at the most important aspect of human relations, raising one's children.  At least I have no such burden to bear.  I can see why you get so upset when challenged about your choices and attitude.  Being an (objective and subjective)failure is simply unbearable for you.  You should have thought about that earlier - you can't change it now.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 05:21:00 PM
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On 2005-09-08 13:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So you returned from vacation----and you just had to rush to your computer and pull up this inactive thread so you could respond.   Whole new levels of OCD there DJ."

Yeah, I was in a big rush to pull up this thread. Where did you get that from?

Oh yeah, you made it up in your convoluted, mixed-up, snake-filled head, just like every other misguided barb you've tried to stick me with while simultaneously trying to say I do it to "others" (you).

Not only are you an obsessive-compulsive freak, you are the ultimate projectionist. It's been shown again and again. Why do you continue to label me as what you are?

One thing will always be different between us though. I spent my entire adult life caring for and mentoring young men and women to be successful in life, to be who they are and to maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses while applying themselves to the inevitable daily struggles of life.

You, on the other hand, were an abominable failure with your own child. Because of your own shortcomings and propensity to project and blame others for your own behavior, your child suffered. Don't ever forget that.

No matter how you rail at me, you are, and always will be, an abject failure at the most important aspect of human relations, raising one's children. At least I have no such burden to bear. I can see why you get so upset when challenged about your choices and attitude. Being an (objective and subjective)failure is simply unbearable for you. You should have thought about that earlier - you can't change it now
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
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On 2005-09-08 08:13:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"Thanks for the bump.



It would be just as dead if you didn't respond.  Obsession-compulsion-obsession-compulsion.  It's a cycle.



I was on vacation and just wanted to actually answer a question posed of me.  I know you wouldn't understand that, so I expect another pithy one-liner, as your compulsion demands.



_________________

"Compassion is the basis of morality"



-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-09-08 08:25 ]"


Karen's reaponse:
"So you returned from vacation----and you just had to rush to your computer and pull up this inactive thread so you could respond. Whole new levels of OCD there DJ."
***********************************************
End result: DJ hits it on the head YET AGAIN.

Karen, if nothing else, you make it easy for me to make predictions.  It's like I have a remote control.  You're an OCD robot waiting for instructions...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
Karen does not post on this forum. I am not Karen. Stop trying to impress us all with your cleverness.
The thought of you mentoring and caring for young men and women is truly frightening.  Plus, you have absolutely no idea whether I was a failure with my child, whether I harmed my child, or whether I even HAVE a child!  This is because you have absolutely no idea who I, or any of the other anonymous posters on this forum, are!  
You are a psychotic, warped human being with nothing better to do than go on the attack and whine when someone attacks you back.
Let go of this and go figure out what makes slamming people on a message board so attractive to you.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 06:52:00 PM
I am KareninDallas, and yes I do post here--- speak for yourself anon.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 07:10:00 PM
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On 2005-09-08 14:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Karen does not post on this forum. I am not Karen. Stop trying to impress us all with your cleverness.

The thought of you mentoring and caring for young men and women is truly frightening.  Plus, you have absolutely no idea whether I was a failure with my child, whether I harmed my child, or whether I even HAVE a child!  This is because you have absolutely no idea who I, or any of the other anonymous posters on this forum, are!  

You are a psychotic, warped human being with nothing better to do than go on the attack and whine when someone attacks you back.

Let go of this and go figure out what makes slamming people on a message board so attractive to you."

Like I said, you can say whatever you want about me.  That will never erase the suffering you inflicted on your own child.  

All of your anger toward me comes from the fact that I enumerated exactly who you are and exactly what you've done to your child.  THAT'S what makes you so angry: being exposed for the lowly cretin and program tool that you truly are.  You don't like being called a lazy and shiftless failure of a parent because it slams home with you - right between the eyes.

Only the truth creates vehemet reactions like yours.  Your distraction focuses.  Your denial confirms.  "The lady doth protest too much..."

The sad part is that if you had a chance to do it all over again, you would.  In a heartbeat.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
"All of your anger toward me comes from the fact that I enumerated exactly who you are and exactly what you've done to your child."

You know nothing about me or my family.
All of my disgust (you aren't worthy of anger) towards you comes from the fact that you are have nothing better to do than amuse yourself by attacking others.  While you were gone this thread was dead- you HAD to come back and get it going. Why?  No one needed an answer from you on anything.  No one needs to hear from you.
Exactly what is it you think anyone on this board has done to their children? Can you give specific examples of what all these Anons have done? Do you know their kids?  Do you know where they are now or what programs they were in?  
No-in your ignorance you make blanket accusations and crass comments about parents you assume have done something which offends your sense of right and wrong. You have no background, no conception of who you are blaming and no ability to make any educated comments.  So- the bottom line would be- SHUT UP.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 07:21:00 PM
Obsession-------->Compulsion

Break the chain of maladaptive thoughts and behaviors.  You can do it.  You just have to want to...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 07:25:00 PM
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On 2005-09-08 16:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

  "While you were gone this thread was dead- you HAD to come back and get it going. Why? "


Woe is me.  Poor, poor me...    ::mecry::

Quit your sniveling.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 07:26:00 PM
DJ I want you to prove that you know that anonymous poster is Karen or shut the hell up. If you don't know who they are, you can't accuse them of anything. It makes you look pathetic.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 07:30:00 PM
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On 2005-09-08 16:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"DJ I want you to prove that you know that anonymous poster is Karen or shut the hell up. If you don't know who they are, you can't accuse them of anything. It makes you look pathetic. "

If it's not obvious by now, Karen, you aren't going to get what you want.  

Just deal with the feeling of weakness.  You don't dictate the agenda here.  The day you control anything about me or what I do or say simply isn't in your future.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on September 08, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
Hey, whichever anon said------"While you were gone this thread was dead- you HAD to come back and get it going. Why? No one needed an answer from you on anything. No one needs to hear from you.....Exactly what is it you think anyone on this board has done to their children? Can you give specific examples of what all these Anons have done? Do you know their kids? Do you know where they are now or what programs they were in?"--------

I disagree anon, I like hearing from DJ...speak for yourself....

hmmmm... I want to interject my unsolicited opinion in response to some of your questions------let's see many either blindly support programs they know nothing about, or, ship kids off to various hellholes in the name of "help" without adequately investigating the prison...oops, I mean program....

Hi DJ :exclaim:  :wave:  :wave: Hope you had an awesome vacation!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 08, 2005, 07:59:00 PM
Hey NCL.  Thanks for thinking of me!  Vacation was great, and sorely needed.  

I've become a workaholic just to keep up with the "rat race" I always swore I would not get caught up in.  Doesn't it suck when reality sets in?

Anyway, Karen missed me so much I felt obligated to come on in and deny her gratification.  It's funny to watch an adult react exactly like a child when you put the program on them.  I guess that proves the program works, but not as intended.

Take away control, deny gratification, throw in some negative observations, blow them out of all sense of proportion and SHAZAM!  Adults (even supposedly "high-functioning" ones, like an attorney) turn into angry, resentful, acting-out teenagers.

What's even more twisted to me, and a bit baffling, is how these dolts expect their child is going to fare better when the program is inflicted upon them "up close and personal" with the unflinching support of their "loving parents" going to the program instead of them.  

For the parents, it's kind of like watching a firefight on TV.  Nice and antiseptic.  They never have to pull the trigger or carry the bodybags, so they simply don't understand what exactly they have done to their children.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on September 08, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
Yeah, DJ,  I know too well about the workaholic rat race and at times it really does suck...leaves so little time to enjoy any semblance of quality free time.

Funny yeah, certain anons are ridiculous to say the least, but more sad than anything....because kids really suffer when they end up in a program from hell because certain anons and/or parents refuse to accept any responsibility for their child's issues (children's problems reflect the family's problems)....and programs are experts at shifting all the blame on children. Convenient for parents dont you think? And I think a lot of the anger that trolls shovel by the truckload is a reflection of the "how dare you accuse a parent of possibly making a mistake" attitude that is far to common. God forbid if anyone correctly points out their real responsibility in all this program madness.

Maybe we should be more sympathetic towards the brainwashed trolls...NOT! :roll:

No, parents dont have the first clue about the unspeakable horrors inflicted upon their children...Not only do many parents fail to  investigate programs or ask enough questions, but programs are also masters at hiding abuse from parents....I have just recently started telling my dad bits and pieces about the abuses in Straight that I witnessed and experienced 20 years ago...he's horrified as he had no clue abuse went on. My dad also told me today that sending me there was one of the biggest mistakes in his life...and he made that mistake because he desperatly wanted to "help me"...its hard to hear my dad acknowledge that he got sucked into the lies and that he bought every last lie Straight told to parents.

So the lies to parents just keep on coming, year in year out, and parents dont wake up (if they wake up that is) til its way too late to undo the damage cause by the programs deceit.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 09:07:00 PM
Thats funny DJ, you dont even know if any of the anonymous persons have children much less send them to programs. You sure do assume alot based on no factual information. I still think you look pathetic claiming to know people when you have no clue who they are. And there is more than one anonymous poster. But go ahead and live your delusional life. It is very entertaining to watch your rants on here  :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 08, 2005, 09:13:00 PM
Your alittle behind there anon, we have had plenty of parents post as anon. We most people infact do post as anon simply because they are to lazy to get a log in, or because they are foolishly scared, or any other number of reasons. We have had anons from the programs, we have had anons frmo the staff, we have had anon parents and anon kids. If she wants to take about a anon parents that sent his or her kid way, it has most likely been posted here.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 09:27:00 PM
I would like to suggest that all anons supporting parents stop posting on this thread.  Let's leave these guys to entertain themselves with their rants.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 10:52:00 PM
Overlordd--please God use spell-check or have somebody proof your posts---they are fucking painful to even look at---I know internet posts don't have to be written perfectly, but my God, there is a limit---can't you do something about this????
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on September 08, 2005, 11:00:00 PM
Is there a rule or law that limits how often one is permitted to make spelling mistakes, use poor grammar, or make punctuation errors?  

I didnt think so.  :roll:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2005, 11:19:00 PM
No there's no fucking rule or law---that doesn't change the fact that these Overlordd posts look horrible and pathetic to anyone with a fourth grade education.

The guy is obviously not stupid---although I personally don't care much for his point of view or style.  My point is: there are aids such as spell check, remedial programs, personal attention to detail, etc, etc, etc, that ought to help a person like him to do better than this. Because his posts just are awful to look at, period.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 12:11:00 AM
I am Karen, and I support programs.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 05:29:00 AM
I am Karen, and I support child abuse.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 07:00:00 AM
You can thank the Georgia public education system for Overlordd's spelling abilities. It's probably not his fault.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 09, 2005, 08:06:00 AM
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On 2005-09-08 18:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"It is very entertaining to watch your rants on here  :wave: "

Thanks!  I will certainly continue, thanks to the undying support of my readers.  I'm here to entertain, ladies and gentlemen...

Remember, keep it positive or I'll put the program on you and have a great laugh at your regression!  That never ceases to amuse me.  I enjoy wathing you Struggling Parents behave exactly in the way that caused you to imprison your children at the warehouses.  But don't worry about me, I'll be "trusting the process" and hoping you learn to "work the program."
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 09:08:00 AM
Hey fella, it got "old fast" pointing out Overlordd's atrocious spelling, did you say?

How's your level of tolerance for the monotonous, banal "I am Karen and I molest little dogs, etc" campaign that's been going on for a while on this thread?

Sound like some of the animals are more equal than others in the "old fast" department. Maybe it's just your bias toward agreeing with Overlordd types and despising Karen types.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 09, 2005, 09:26:00 AM
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On 2005-09-09 06:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

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How's your level of tolerance for the monotonous, banal "I am Karen and I molest little dogs, etc" campaign that's been going on for a while on this thread?
"

I would guess it's pretty high.  

As you "work the program" your threshold tolerance will also expand inversely proportionate to your free will.

Wait and see.  Wait and see...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 09, 2005, 11:49:00 AM
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I think I agree with him maybe 1 time in 20 if he is lucky. Damn people get a life, and friggin Overlord! Your jockstrap is to tight again its cutting off blood to your brain. Your posts are confusing the crap out of me again.


Well ask and I will help yo understand as best I can.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 09, 2005, 11:50:00 AM
God fucking damn! You people bitch to much, fine, you win, I'll be sure to proof all my posts and not just the long ones.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 09, 2005, 05:18:00 PM
What do you mean "you people"?  It's me, Karen.  Don't give others credit for my writings---that's for me alone---and you spelled "too" wrong.

You said you were going to check your spelling---another obvious lie from a Fornitscator.  Damn Fornitscators---you should all be in prison!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 06:51:00 PM
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On 2005-09-09 06:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am Karen and I molest little dogs, etc"


That's pretty nasty, Karen!  ::noway::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 09, 2005, 09:55:00 PM
The difference between too and to is considered grammar not spelling.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 10:44:00 PM
Fine, Mr. Perfect-English.  Now---just for the hell of it---since you know what it's supposed to be, why don't you just do it right from now on---just for form's sake whether it's grammar or spelling????
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 10:51:00 PM
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On 2005-09-09 19:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Fine, Mr. Perfect-English.  Now---just for the hell of it---since you know what it's supposed to be, why don't you just do it right from now on---just for form's sake whether it's grammar or spelling????"


 ::bigmouth::  ::kiss::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
By the way, why did you delete your struggling trolls username? :???:  HAHAHAHAHA. HAHA.  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 11:00:00 PM
Uh- it isn't the parents who criticize Overlordd's spelling and grammar, it's his nice friends on Fornits.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2005, 08:09:00 AM
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On 2005-09-09 20:00:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Uh- it isn't the parents who criticize Overlordd's spelling and grammar, it's his nice friends on Fornits.  "


and you speak for all parents ... riiiiight. go back in your hole karen!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 10, 2005, 09:05:00 AM
You know---you people on this board are so screwed up!!!  All you want to talk about is bang this--hole that--molest this--blow that.

It's ridiculous!!!  Anyone who actually KNOWS me--and I don't mean from a message board--knows I haven't had sexual relations in over 17 years.  Get a clue people--you're all losers!!!

And about my pie-hole---make me shut it.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: AtomicAnt on September 10, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
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On 2005-09-09 04:18:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

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If your all going to rip on a man at least do it with class. Who gives a damn about his spelling? I mean picking on him about that got boring fast, particularly when there are so many other things to piss him off over.


Sanho Tree

"


Admit it OverLordd, you learned how to spell in a program. So for parents who wish to send their kids into one, let your spelling be a cautionary tale.  :grin:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 10, 2005, 11:13:00 AM
My spelling errors here are generally a function of being to lazy to proof and typing to quick to notice.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 10, 2005, 11:41:00 AM
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On 2005-09-10 08:13:00, OverLordd wrote:

"My spelling errors here are generally a function of being to lazy to proof and typing to quick to notice."

TOO--it's fucking TOO you idiot--not TO!!  Jesus--what does it take to get that through your thick skull???
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2005, 11:50:00 AM
Hey, Ant. Your two sentences were pretty poorly constructed and have lots of errors. I wouldn't be to(sic) critical of Overlordd.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 10, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
GRAMMER?!  What is WRONG with you people??? You're SO dumb---it's GRAMMAR---not GRAMMER!!!

You Fornitscators have no right to accuse me of anything--and if you do--I'll sue you for slander!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: AtomicAnt on September 10, 2005, 02:05:00 PM
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On 2005-09-10 08:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hey, Ant. Your two sentences were pretty poorly constructed and have lots of errors. I wouldn't be to(sic) critical of Overlordd. "


Intentionally. The post was a joke. Did you miss the stupid emoticon?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 10, 2005, 02:21:00 PM
Was that the proper use of hypens?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
Well, it's 'hyphens' actually...

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/ ... yphen.html (http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_hyphen.html)

The more you read OL the better you'll spell. It's weird, I've had some very intelligent friends who couldn't spell either.  :???:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2005, 03:13:00 PM
Maybe Overlordd has Dyslexia.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 10, 2005, 03:37:00 PM
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On 2005-09-10 11:21:00, OverLordd wrote:

"Was that the proper use of hypens?"

Don't you EVER question me Overlordd!!!  You have no right to question anything I do or say--you're just a little piss-ant!!

Question me again, Sonny Boy--we'll see how you like getting sued.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 10, 2005, 03:46:00 PM
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The more you read OL the better you'll spell. It's weird, I've had some very intelligent friends who couldn't spell either.

I do alot of reading though. Its weird because I love to read books of all kinda, and yet my spelling sucks.

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piss-ant!!


I thought piss-ant was one word. In your creation you seem to be calling me a pissing ant or something like that.[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-09-10 12:46 ]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 10, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
That's it--I've had enough!!!  Post your real name and real address so I can have you served with a goddamn subpoena--I've had it with you!

I'm going to bring you into reality, Sonny Boy--and fast!!!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2005, 07:56:00 PM
I'd love to smell your cootch, Karen. Sniffy sniffy!  :idea:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2005, 08:07:00 PM
yeah but that's cuz you're a fucking pig.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 10, 2005, 08:42:00 PM
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That's it--I've had enough!!! Post your real name and real address so I can have you served with a goddamn subpoena--I've had it with you!

I'm going to bring you into reality, Sonny Boy--and fast!!!


Your alittle behind... you would subpoena ginger for my name and address... and you dont subpoena me, the court does.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLord on September 10, 2005, 08:56:00 PM
No, I am the REAL OverLord!!!!!  :eek:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 10, 2005, 09:49:00 PM
Really where do you live TSW?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 11, 2005, 09:01:00 AM
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On 2005-09-10 17:42:00, OverLordd wrote:

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That's it--I've had enough!!! Post your real name and real address so I can have you served with a goddamn subpoena--I've had it with you!



I'm going to bring you into reality, Sonny Boy--and fast!!!



Your alittle behind... you would subpoena ginger for my name and address... and you dont subpoena me, the court does."

Listen smart ass--I said HAVE YOU SERVED--not I will serve you.  Obviously your reading comprehension is low---you need to go to therapeutic boarding school--where you can get a REAL education!!!

Now, I said GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS--so do it!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
If you were really serious about suing you would have already figured out where he is. Only the most moronic person wouldnt be able to deduce his location from his numerous posts. So, in essence, you're just spewing BS.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 11, 2005, 10:34:00 AM
Oh I AM serious, Sonny boy--and now you're on the list too.  I'm going to show you some real "power of attorney"!!!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2005, 11:26:00 AM
First of all, Im not a boy, secondly, I haven't insulted you. Others did. There is nothing you can sue me for. You don't even know me.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
Feel free to sue me, Karen! I'd love to see what you look like in person.  :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 11, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
Then give me your name and address--the real ones--and I'll add you to the lawsuit!!!

Right now I'm busy dealing with some Fornitscators in another thread---"Encouraging words for a teenager in a BM school"--but I'll check back for your address.

I'll spend every waking hour of every day--whatever it takes--to bring you all down.  This is just the beginning!!!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on September 11, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
Karen you are sooo transparent...you are just one hell of an angry and vindictive troll who wouldnt know the truth if it hit you upside the head.... :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 11, 2005, 01:09:00 PM
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On 2005-09-11 10:03:00, Nonconformistlaw wrote:

"Karen you are sooo transparent...you are just one hell of an angry and vindictive troll who wouldnt know the truth if it hit you upside the head.... :lol:  :lol: "

Now that's a true statement.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 11, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
Another one of Karen's "gems" from another thread today:

 
"I would worry about you being a parent, but I don't see much chance of that happening because no one would possibly ever be in a relationship with you. I suppose there is the horrible possibility that you could rape someone, but you probably don't leave your computer terminal long enough."

Now isn't that lovely?  It certainly raises the quality of dialogue now doesn't it?  What a jerk.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2005, 08:49:00 PM
And I suppose this Karen person signed her name to this post?  You better watch what you are attributing to people.  That was a male poster-you can be assured of that.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2005, 08:51:00 PM
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On 2005-09-11 08:44:00, Anonymous wrote:



I'll spend every waking hour of every day--whatever it takes--to bring you all down.  This is just the beginning!!!"


 :scared:  :scared:  :scared:  :scared:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 11, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
Okay, here's the thing: I've been an anon on this board for awhile (mostly just because I like to support the fact that we can post about these issue anonymously) and I've read many of Overlordd's posts.  From what I gather he seems like a bright kid, passionate about youth rights, and his heart seems in the right place.  Normally I think that people who pick on spelling and grammar errors are anal, but in this case, I kinda have to agree.  It's at the point where I give up on reading his posts halfway through because I just can't stand it.  I think that he would command a lot more attention and respect for his ideas if he just took an extra two minutes to cut and paste his posts into a word processing program and run a quick spellcheck.  Don't do it for the critical a-holes out there, do it for the kids in programs who have no voice of their own.  Just my 2 cents. =)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 11, 2005, 10:49:00 PM
You most likely noticed that I have done that on some of them, and I do it on the longer ones. Generally my posts are no longer than 2 or 3 lines on the whole, so I really don't take the effort. I guess I should.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 05:29:00 AM
you are all right in my book, Overlordd.  I respect your maturity.  =)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 07:15:00 AM
Yes, it is very mature to talk about sneaking onto a boarding school campus to cause trouble. It is very mature to talk about how well he shoots in order to intimidate someone. It is very mature to call people names. He just turned 18. How mature could he be? I don't fault him for these things because of his age. He just doesn't know any better yet. But mature? I am not so sure about that.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 12, 2005, 09:15:00 AM
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On 2005-09-11 17:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"And I suppose this Karen person signed her name to this post?  You better watch what you are attributing to people.  That was a male poster-you can be assured of that."

OR WHAT?  What are you going to do about it?  Let me give you a preview: NOTHING.

STFU already.  You're a fucking fool who make impotent threats.  It might work on your kid, but not here.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 12, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
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On 2005-09-12 04:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yes, it is very mature to talk about sneaking onto a boarding school campus to cause trouble. It is very mature to talk about how well he shoots in order to intimidate someone. It is very mature to call people names. He just turned 18. How mature could he be? I don't fault him for these things because of his age. He just doesn't know any better yet. But mature? I am not so sure about that."

What about threatening everyone who disagrees with a lawsuit?   ::deal:: What about calling people who disagree rapists?  How mature is that?  The people who do this are parents of "struggling teens"--your cronies. ::both::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 09:53:00 AM
No one was called a rapist- read what the poster wrote. The post addressed the possibility of Dysfunction being a parent and referred to the "horrible possibility....rape someone". That is not calling anyone a rapist.
He deserved every bit of it.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 12, 2005, 10:11:00 AM
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On 2005-09-12 06:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"No one was called a rapist- read what the poster wrote. The post addressed the possibility of Dysfunction being a parent and referred to the "horrible possibility....rape someone". That is not calling anyone a rapist.

He deserved every bit of it."

you're sick.  very sick.  i bet you think your kid deserved every bit of what they got too.  it's scumbags like you that justify that type of behavior that really show how awful "struggling parents" are.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 12, 2005, 10:23:00 AM
karenindallas and all her little buddies are just child abusers in struggling parents' clothing.  they abused their own children and recruit others for cash to abuse their children.  and if you don't like it, well they'll abuse you and threaten to sue you too.  real fine examples of parents.

one of them even says he's starting up a bm wildrness program.  gotta love low-lifes who cash in on suffering and abuse.  

you'll never get a debate out of these people.  the truth interferes with the cashflow.  you have to understand it's all about avoiding responsibility and cashing in on referrals or starting up a bm business.  they will never debate anything because it will only show that they are low-life, child abusing money grubbers, terrible parents and most of all terrible human beings.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
Calling people child abusers who have not abused any children of their own or children in their care is Slander. If you don't know someone personally, nor read any validated reports of child abuse by them, you cannot slander someone with those words. Slandering an anonymous person is a little harder to prove, but if you call a person who's name is known or who posts on here a child abuser, they can sue you. I would suggest you read up on the laws before accusing someone of something they are not guilty of. You could get in alot of trouble.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 12, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
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On 2005-09-12 07:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Calling people child abusers who have not abused any children of their own or children in their care is Slander. If you don't know someone personally, nor read any validated reports of child abuse by them, you cannot slander someone with those words. Slandering an anonymous person is a little harder to prove, but if you call a person who's name is known or who posts on here a child abuser, they can sue you. I would suggest you read up on the laws before accusing someone of something they are not guilty of. You could get in alot of trouble."

predictable response.  file a lawsuit then.  otherwise, shut the fuck up.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
Im not the one who was called a child abuser. I was merely pointing out a fact of law. I don't post on here that often. I mainly read and observe.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on September 12, 2005, 11:37:00 AM
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The thing I love about this thread that it was started with the purpose of actually debating Karen in Dallas. A meaningful thought filled debate that would hopefully be held in a respect filled enviroment.

Thus far we have flamed each other, flamed others with out actually knowing who they are, I claimed to be Overlordd, and the list goes on and one.

To the many of my admiring fans, ok to the one admiring fan and sweetest buttercup you know who you are, I am not Overlordd. I am TSW the mighty fallen god of Wilderness Programing. I have fallen so far I fell right of the continent, and landed in Asia. Can't say I complain, its rather nice here, and the gimbap, and mimimbap tastes great.

So all of yall OL IS OL, and I am me and no one else.

Peace out Grammar Nazi Hooligans!


Yeah, the comment about you being me was so far out of left feild I did my best not to care about it, it was hard though, haha. Wow, Asia, I hope you like it out there man, come back and see us every now and again. Anyway, its the anons, always the anons that flame, that fuck up the talk, but some of them do a good job speaking up and out.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 12:10:00 PM
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On 2005-09-12 07:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Calling people child abusers who have not abused any children of their own or children in their care is Slander. If you don't know someone personally, nor read any validated reports of child abuse by them, you cannot slander someone with those words. Slandering an anonymous person is a little harder to prove, but if you call a person who's name is known or who posts on here a child abuser, they can sue you. I would suggest you read up on the laws before accusing someone of something they are not guilty of. You could get in alot of trouble."


LMAO! are you the same fucker who's been posting legal threats for months now? hahahahha 'its not me, but if it was...' what a fucking tool. karen go back in your hole, bitch.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 01:21:00 PM
No, Im not Karen. I was trying to give whoever posted the child abuse post some legal advice. I am not for either side in this argument. But I was trying to point out that what they are saying is slander if they have no evidence of child abuse and that talk hurts the person's personal or professional reputation. and they can be sued. If they don't want to take the advice, that isnt my problem. They are on their own.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 01:32:00 PM
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On 2005-09-12 10:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"No, Im not Karen. I was trying to give whoever posted the child abuse post some legal advice. I am not for either side in this argument. But I was trying to point out that what they are saying is slander if they have no evidence of child abuse and that talk hurts the person's personal or professional reputation. and they can be sued. If they don't want to take the advice, that isnt my problem. They are on their own."



you are the same bitch-ass troll that's always been here.. threatening people with bullshit. what happened to your last threat about the phone number thing? anybody been sued yet? Hahahahaha.

man... (karen) youre pathetic.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 02:21:00 PM
Firstly, I never threatened anybody. I said someone could be sued if they call someone a child abuser. I didnt say I was going to sue anybody. I wasnt the one that was being responded to. I was giving legal advice, nothing more. I dont care who sues who. I wasnt the one who threatened anybody. I am also not the same person who mainly posts here. I see several anonymous persons who obviously are different people posting at different times. I happen to only be one of them. I am not Karen. Maybe one of these anonymous persons is Karen, but I am not. I do find it interesting that you seem SO SURE that you know who Karen is though. Don't you think there is a slight possibility that you might actually be wrong about who is posting what? I really don't care about the Karen insults since that isn't me, but I thought I would point out that since you really don't know which anonymous poster is Karen, if any, your continuing comments to that name seem strange, to say the least.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
Round and round we go, when we'll stop nobody knows!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 03:02:00 PM
Parents and supporters of parents- please stop posting on this thread.  Let them talk to each other.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
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On 2005-09-12 12:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Parents and supporters of parents- please stop posting on this thread.  Let them talk to each other. "


I am a supporter of parents ,and you['re right.. I won't post here anymore! I'll go hit up struggling trolls instead.. great idea. Im a support of parents ... what the fuck does that mean..  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 12, 2005, 03:57:00 PM
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On 2005-09-12 10:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"No, Im not Karen. I was trying to give whoever posted the child abuse post some legal advice. I am not for either side in this argument. But I was trying to point out that what they are saying is slander if they have no evidence of child abuse and that talk hurts the person's personal or professional reputation. and they can be sued. If they don't want to take the advice, that isnt my problem. They are on their own."
Are you some kind of jailhouse lawyer?  

How in the world are you giving out le3gal advice when you can't differentiate between slander and libel you fucking moron?  You obviously have no legal training and should cease and desist from offering advice because you're too stupid to help anyone.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 05:49:00 PM
Why such hostility from someone trying to help? I am not offering legal advice but that person didn't seem hostile. Why call them a fucking moron? Maybe they were giving good advice so someone doesnt get sued on here.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 07:28:00 PM
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On 2005-09-12 14:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Why such hostility from someone trying to help? I am not offering legal advice but that person didn't seem hostile. Why call them a fucking moron? Maybe they were giving good advice so someone doesnt get sued on here."


You aren't fooling anyone Karen. I am Karen's friend from struggling teens, and I have seen this go on long enough. The truth must come out, Karen has become a troll. Sad? Yes, but not unordinary. It is common for program parents to become trolls, such as the one here:

(http://http://pspbuddies.com/pspTutor/CSGreen/troll/kkshair5.jpg)

She comes over to my house everyday to post on this forum, but from now on she will not be using my computer. I told her NO MORE OF THIS. Ever since she sent her son to a program, things haven't been the same. She has no relationship with her family, so she spends her time pretending to be different characters on an internet forum. I keep telling her everyone knows it's you, Karen, but she still will not relent. Karen, please when you read this, I implore you to stop this behavior and seek help from a professional. There are plenty of ADULT programs out there, you need to enroll yourself in one. Not only for your sake, but for your family's sake as well. Karen, you know I love you, but I have seen this go on and on for months and I think it would be healthy if you stopped posting here.

D.W.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
I don't know anybody with the initials D.W. and I am not Karen. I am not even female. I am sorry you have me mistaken for Karen, but I am not her.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
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On 2005-09-12 17:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I don't know anybody with the initials D.W. and I am not Karen. I am not even female. I am sorry you have me mistaken for Karen, but I am not her. "


It's okay Karen, you can come clean, you are in a safe environment. For gosh sake, I just watched you make that post from MY computer in MY house! Maybe you should tell everyone how hurt you are, and that is why you have deleted your struggling teens username, to troll here anonymously instead. You CAN get better, I promise. All you need is to let go, and let us help you. I know of a good program where we can send you. If you want we can hire escorts. Let me know, Karen- I love you.

D.W.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 09:14:00 PM
I am sitting in my own home, on one of my own computers. I don't even live anywhere near Texas if that is where Karen "in Dallas" lives. I don't have to use your computer, whoever you are. I suppose this is some sort of humor or sarcasm you are attempting, but it comes across as being kind of sick if you ask me. I hope the real Karen doesn't really have a friend named D.W. pretending to have things ocurring in her home that aren't happening.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
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On 2005-09-12 18:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am sitting in my own home, on one of my own computers. I don't even live anywhere near Texas if that is where Karen "in Dallas" lives. I don't have to use your computer, whoever you are. I suppose this is some sort of humor or sarcasm you are attempting, but it comes across as being kind of sick if you ask me. I hope the real Karen doesn't really have a friend named D.W. pretending to have things ocurring in her home that aren't happening. "


Why are you pretending to be Karen? You are an imposter and could never replace my friend Karen. She is here on my couch, and I am petting her head in comfort. Karen is sad.  :flame: Karen tells me she still hates all you 'forniscators' and she'll be back for more. Probably once I leave for work and my computer is available. Can anyone suggest an adult program for her, and possibly reccomend the proper escorts as well? I don't think she will go willingly. I also believe she has a alcohol problem.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 09:43:00 PM
You are the one saying I am Karen, not me. I am not pretending to be anybody by that name. You are choosing to call me that and pretend that I am on your computer at your home. I have never claimed to be Karen and in fact state quite clearly that I am not Karen nor am I trying to pose as her. Obviously this is your attempt at humor, not mine. You are the joker, not me. It's not even funny, that's the sad part.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 10:08:00 PM
This thread is as stale as last night's beer.

The first post that I read was more of this old tired "Karen" routine...wasn't even motivated to look and see what else was posted since my last visit

Boring!!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 10:14:00 PM
Anon- let it go.  They are just amusing themselves.  There is no Karen. They decided a number of weeks ago that they could identify a parent from the parents' website who angered them by posting over on this site.  They put this Karen's email and a phone number on this site.  However, it came to light that this Karen was one of a number of posters and she left the site weeks ago.  They persist in slamming her and claiming all Anon posts which differ from their view are made by Karen.  
They think they are very clever and cute and you are just playing into it.
Stop answering them.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 10:35:00 PM
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On 2005-09-12 19:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Anon- let it go.  They are just amusing themselves.  There is no Karen. They decided a number of weeks ago that they could identify a parent from the parents' website who angered them by posting over on this site.  They put this Karen's email and a phone number on this site.  However, it came to light that this Karen was one of a number of posters and she left the site weeks ago.  They persist in slamming her and claiming all Anon posts which differ from their view are made by Karen.  

They think they are very clever and cute and you are just playing into it.

Stop answering them."

Anon, you sure sound a lot like this anon:

Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 140#119752 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10963&forum=37&start=140#119752)

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Uh-what you are saying bears absolutely no resemblance to the programs my son attended. I don't know where you are dreaming up all this crap, but maybe you should check out some of the programs the parents are actually sending kids to! Many of the TBSs are very similar to prep boarding schools, but with many more restrictions and lots of therapy.
Do you really think we, as parents, are stupid enough to just hand our kids over without knowing a lot about these programs and others who have been through them? Do you really think our kids are two year olds who can not communicate abuse to us? Many of our kids have been home for a year or two now, and we have NO reports of any abuse. Yep-there were lots of consequences for breaking rules. Some of these seemed silly. Lessons were learned from most of them. These are kids who are now in college, in many cases. It hink they could figure out if they had been abused.
You are a moron.


more

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 140#119785 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10963&forum=37&start=140#119785)

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 150#119831 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10963&forum=37&start=150#119831)

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 160#119840 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10963&forum=37&start=160#119840)

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 230#120128 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10963&forum=37&start=230#120128)
 http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 240#120151 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10963&forum=37&start=240#120151)

So we know you are a program parent, a regular at Struggling Trolls, and have been trolling this site since the whole Karen invasion began. There's a pretty good chance, especially based on your previous posts, YOU ARE KAREN. :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
I am Karen, and I will never leave.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 10:46:00 PM
I think the funniest is when Karen pretends to calm down the thread as another observer. You'd like this thread to dissappear, eh karen?  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 13, 2005, 07:14:00 AM
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On 2005-09-12 18:43:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are the one saying I am Karen, not me. I am not pretending to be anybody by that name. You are choosing to call me that and pretend that I am on your computer at your home. I have never claimed to be Karen and in fact state quite clearly that I am not Karen nor am I trying to pose as her. Obviously this is your attempt at humor, not mine. You are the joker, not me. It's not even funny, that's the sad part."


This post above was mine. None of the other links posted in that post below are mine. So your theory that the person who posted those is now trying to calm the thread down is the same person is incorrect. I never actually commented on schools. I commented only on the legal implications of calling someone a child abuser without proof. You think you know every anonymous poster. Obviously you are wrong. I have no idea if any of those anonymous people were Karen, but obviously I am not.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 13, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
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On 2005-09-13 04:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
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On 2005-09-12 18:43:00, Anonymous wrote:


"You are the one saying I am Karen, not me. I am not pretending to be anybody by that name. You are choosing to call me that and pretend that I am on your computer at your home. I have never claimed to be Karen and in fact state quite clearly that I am not Karen nor am I trying to pose as her. Obviously this is your attempt at humor, not mine. You are the joker, not me. It's not even funny, that's the sad part."




This post above was mine. None of the other links posted in that post below are mine. So your theory that the person who posted those is now trying to calm the thread down is the same person is incorrect. I never actually commented on schools. I commented only on the legal implications of calling someone a child abuser without proof. You think you know every anonymous poster. Obviously you are wrong. I have no idea if any of those anonymous people were Karen, but obviously I am not."


hahahahaha  :wstupid: keep saying that, Karen. we are still laughing.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 13, 2005, 03:43:00 PM
***This post above was mine. None of the other links posted in that post below are mine.

Prove it.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 13, 2005, 03:50:00 PM
Does someone actually care about any of this?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 13, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
I do.

-Karen
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 13, 2005, 04:21:00 PM
The post was ACTUALLY mine, the other anon was trying to be funny I guess. So what if I have been posting here ever since the whole Karen drama. And so what if I am from struggling teens website. You forniscators need to be taught a lesson--- and obviously got out of your programs too early. If it were up to me, you'd all be locked up. We need more teen camps, you all prove that. Damn you forniscators!! Damn you all!  :flame:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 14, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
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On 2005-09-13 13:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I do.



-Karen"

This is what I've been telling you all along...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2005, 04:26:00 PM
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On 2005-09-14 06:40:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"This is what I've been telling you all along...  :wave:
Karen
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2005, 06:17:00 PM
The real Karen would probably know how to spell.  Just a thought.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 14, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
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On 2005-09-14 13:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-09-14 06:40:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:


"This is what I've been telling you all along...  ::soapbox::  ::rocker:: said! :nworthy:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2005, 07:02:00 PM
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On 2005-09-14 13:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
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On 2005-09-14 06:40:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:


"This is what I've been telling you all along...  :skull:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on September 14, 2005, 07:34:00 PM
:wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 14, 2005, 07:44:00 PM
Holy shit!  You are one wrinkled up 'ol bitch!  Goddamn! Matches your personality perfectly!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 14, 2005, 07:51:00 PM
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On 2005-09-14 13:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
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On 2005-09-14 06:40:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:


"This is what I've been telling you all along...  :wave:

Karen "

last anyone knew you were unemployed.  what are you going to court for?  to have your son mandated to another carlbrook tour?  i bet that's what it is.  couldn't stand to see him home smoking that weed again and, god forbid, getting some ass!  mandate that punk to 18 more months at carlbrook,  yeah, right on! :lol:  :lol:

you're like the martha stewart of treatment, you mean old drunk!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
Karen does not post on this forum. She doesn't even read it.  Enjoy yourselves!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on September 14, 2005, 11:26:00 PM
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On 2005-09-14 17:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Karen does not post on this forum. She doesn't even read it.  Enjoy yourselves!"


Speak for yourself, you self-hating forniscator! I might sue you for spreading lies. Damn you all to hell!!!  :flame: I'll post here forever and your games won't stop me. You all belong in programs, you stupid little fucks.   :flame:  :flame:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2005, 09:15:00 AM
Well maybe a little cute to make up a "character" (something akin to a clay man to fight with---so not very original but worth a giggle or two.

At the same time, did you ever think that ridiculing the original Karen for her age---as a previous poster did recently---representing her with pronounced cartoonish wrinkles in the "KarenInDallas" posts symbol---doesn't this really reflect more on the people here than it does on her?  

Don't get me wrong---I think this woman' opinions (and anybody else's) are fair game---but would you make fun of anybody else for physical attributes they couldn't control---quadaparesis, facial deformities, bad acne, a lisp---maybe you would, at least some of you.  

I still think it reflects more on those of you who do than it does on her, may also says something about how you perceive and maybe treat older members of your family and communities.

PS To clarify I've got nothing against age and/or wrinkles, all part of the life process, normal if you're lucky enough to live a full span---my gripe is with people making fun---by way of cheap shots-- of this very normal part of KarenInDallas' (or anyone else's) experience
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 15, 2005, 10:34:00 AM
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On 2005-09-15 06:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Well maybe a little cute to make up a "character" (something akin to a clay man to fight with---so not very original but worth a giggle or two.



At the same time, did you ever think that ridiculing the original Karen for her age---as a previous poster did recently---representing her with pronounced cartoonish wrinkles in the "KarenInDallas" posts symbol---doesn't this really reflect more on the people here than it does on her?  



Don't get me wrong---I think this woman' opinions (and anybody else's) are fair game---but would you make fun of anybody else for physical attributes they couldn't control---quadaparesis, facial deformities, bad acne, a lisp---maybe you would, at least some of you.  



I still think it reflects more on those of you who do than it does on her, may also says something about how you perceive and maybe treat older members of your family and communities.



PS To clarify I've got nothing against age and/or wrinkles, all part of the life process, normal if you're lucky enough to live a full span---my gripe is with people making fun---by way of cheap shots-- of this very normal part of KarenInDallas' (or anyone else's) experience"

Can we make fun of your really poor writing with all the stupid dashes?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on September 15, 2005, 01:30:00 PM
Karen is hungry.. anyone got any chocolate??
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on September 15, 2005, 01:32:00 PM
To the one who appreciated my picture, thanks! It's not really me of course, I am much uglier and older in person, but it looks somewhat like me. I'm just glad you can't see any closer details if you know what I mean! I am a bit over-ripe, as they say. Ciao!

PS: FUCK ALL YOU FONISCATORS!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 15, 2005, 02:00:00 PM
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On 2005-09-15 10:32:00, KarenInDallas wrote:

"To the one who appreciated my picture, thanks! It's not really me of course, I am much uglier and older in person, but it looks somewhat like me. I'm just glad you can't see any closer details if you know what I mean! I am a bit over-ripe, as they say. Ciao!



PS: FUCK ALL YOU FONISCATORS! "

you look drunk in that picture, too.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 15, 2005, 05:21:00 PM
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On 2005-09-15 10:30:00, KarenInDallas wrote:

"Karen is hungry.. anyone got any chocolate?? "

Shut your chocolate-hole, Karen!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2005, 11:59:00 PM
Of course you can do what you want Dysfunctional--- but it would seem to me that critiquing the writing style of other posters (see DJ's astute comments several posts back)is not going to be your forte.

I mean, I get that you're a computer nerd, not a writer, but I haven't noted anything either particularly skillful or amusing to be found within the vast volume of posts that you spew out here---that would make me give a shit about your opinion of my writing.

Just a thought---instead of being a smart ass---how about addressing the content of posts you're responding to??
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 16, 2005, 07:57:00 AM
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On 2005-09-15 20:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Of course you can do what you want Dysfunctional--- but it would seem to me that critiquing the writing style of other posters (see DJ's astute comments several posts back)is not going to be your forte.



I mean, I get that you're a computer nerd, not a writer, but I haven't noted anything either particularly skillful or amusing to be found within the vast volume of posts that you spew out here---that would make me give a shit about your opinion of my writing.



Just a thought---instead of being a smart ass---how about addressing the content of posts you're responding to??



"

You write like a first grader.

Hard---to---understand--what---you're---trying---to---say---with---all---the---d-a-s-h-e-s---breaking---up---the---flow---

At least DJ can put together a coherent sentence.  Maybe you should strive to be more "nerd-like" and learn to write in English.  Maybe you fail to find value in those posts you read and re-read simply because your reading comprehension level is about equal to a spider monkey.   :wstupid:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 16, 2005, 08:19:00 AM
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On 2005-09-15 20:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Of course you can do what you want Dysfunctional--- but it would seem to me that critiquing the writing style of other posters (see DJ's astute comments several posts back)is not going to be your forte.



I mean, I get that you're a computer nerd, not a writer, but I haven't noted anything either particularly skillful or amusing to be found within the vast volume of posts that you spew out here---that would make me give a shit about your opinion of my writing.



Just a thought---instead of being a smart ass---how about addressing the content of posts you're responding to??



"

I do address the content of posts.  In case you haven't noticed yet, this thread is for the discussion of KarenInDallas, not programs.  Therefore, Karen is the subject of the discussion here.  What about Karen would you like to talk about?

I think it's funny that your posts sound--like--Captain--Kirk--talking in the original Star Trek.  Do you talk that way also, or just write that way?  You should conclude your posts with "Kirk out."
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 16, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
pointless, yes.  never-ending, also yes.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on September 16, 2005, 06:10:00 PM
If you continue posting on this thread, I will sue you all. Every damn last forniscator, you will be SUED up the wazoo! Think I am kidding? Keep posting. You'll see, I am a lawyer and I am about to sue all of you. Sue, sue, sue. Yep-- you guessed it. You're about to be sued. Want to be sued? Continue posting on this thread, because if you DO--- I will sue you.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 16, 2005, 07:31:00 PM
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On 2005-09-16 15:10:00, KarenInDallas wrote:

"If you continue posting on this thread, I will sue you all. Every damn last forniscator, you will be SUED up the wazoo! Think I am kidding? Keep posting. You'll see, I am a lawyer and I am about to sue all of you. Sue, sue, sue. Yep-- you guessed it. You're about to be sued. Want to be sued? Continue posting on this thread, because if you DO--- I will sue you. "
:nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2005, 08:52:00 PM
"I think it's funny that your posts sound--like--Captain--Kirk--talking in the original Star Trek. Do you talk that way also, or just write that way? You should conclude your posts with "Kirk out."  

So said Dysfunctional---who was reallyjust being his dysfunctional self--a post or so back.

Thanks DJ---I'll consider closing my posts with "Kirk Out"---if you"ll consider---as would be most appropriate---closing yours with "Jerk Off".
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2005, 10:29:00 PM
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On 2005-09-16 17:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

""I'll consider closing my posts with "Kirk Out"---if you"ll consider---as would be most appropriate---closing yours with "Jerk Off"."


thats just stupid ... nice try .. for a karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on September 16, 2005, 10:58:00 PM
This thread has my name on it, hence, from this point forward--- I will be taking command of this thread in ALL legal aspects. This means, IF you decide to post a reply to this statement--- you WILL be sued. I mean it! If you think I am kidding, try me-- and I will sue you for everything you got. (even though it's probably just heroin and an old mustard jar) You forniscators have caused trouble for the last time!  :flame:

I even read on here about someone 'smokin' bud'! You think I don't know what this means? I know you are smoking illegal substances, and this will not be tolerated. Soon I will be in contact with the posters parents to get them enrolled in a program, and a tidy fee in my pocket. How you ask? I will SUE! Lawyers are the most powerful creatures roaming this planet, and if you don't know this alread--- look out--- I am coming for you.
Karen
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 17, 2005, 08:30:00 AM
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On 2005-09-16 17:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

""I think it's funny that your posts sound--like--Captain--Kirk--talking in the original Star Trek. Do you talk that way also, or just write that way? You should conclude your posts with "Kirk out."  



So said Dysfunctional---who was reallyjust being his dysfunctional self--a post or so back.



Thanks DJ---I'll consider closing my posts with "Kirk Out"---if you"ll consider---as would be most appropriate---closing yours with "Jerk Off".

"

Why so testy?  I can't help but wonder what kind of feelings you harbor for me.  

You keep using my name in conjunction with graphic sexual references.  Have you been fantasizing about me?  If you're getting turned on by the exchanges that's great, but it can't go any further than this board - remember, I'm happily married...

Love ya!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2005, 08:40:00 AM
Anybody who thinks these posts by a "KareninDallas" is the original real person by the name of Karen is a little slow to say the least. I hope these people posting to her are just playing along, if not, they have some serious issues  :silly:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 17, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
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On 2005-09-17 05:40:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Anybody who thinks these posts by a "KareninDallas" is the original real person by the name of Karen is a little slow to say the least. I hope these people posting to her are just playing along, if not, they have some serious issues  :silly: "

Yeah, I think it's safe to say that everyone knows it is not KarenInDallas continuing to post, although she did post earlier and acted like a jerk.

Our latest troll, the one seemingly having very explicit sexual thoughts about me, is none other than the haggard old troll from the CEDU forums, Ottowa.  She's been trolling this board for at over a year at least and uses the same tactics over and over: flame, threaten and deny.

You should read some of the ridiculous posts she has written.  Nearly all involve coarse affrontery, name-calling, belittling, vulgarity and, most of all, her claims of having "powerful legal friends" who will initiate lawsuits against those with whom she disagrees.

Ottowa is one of the vehement "program parents" (although there is some doubt about this - she may be an employee of a program) who just can't let anyone express divergent opinions about CEDU/RMA or "EG" programs in general without penalty.  Sadly, she's been consumed by it all and has resorted to remaining anonymous now, as all of her previous threats/promises have come to naught, and the username "Ottowa5" has been stained by her own actions.

It's pretty sad to see she's kept up her bristling vigilance of this site for more than a year in her impotent attempts to discredit program survivors and critics.  She must be a seriously disturbed person to invest that much time in futility, unless, of course, she just gets off on the friction...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2005, 09:48:00 AM
How do you know it's Ottawa? By her IP?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 17, 2005, 10:14:00 AM
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On 2005-09-17 06:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"How do you know it's Ottawa? By her IP?"

You'd have to ask Ginger to confirm that.  It's the same person, the same vocabulary, the same misspelled words, the same phraseology, the same sentence construction, etc.  Go back and have a look for yourself.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 17, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
"You sound like Ottawa when you do that, and this makes it hard to take you

seriously."

How about addressing what Puma said instead of going into your normal Serb-astic

rant---which includes shooting spite at random targets---real and imagined--- and

looking for fights where there don't have to be any.

If I were Puma and the best somebody could come up with in an argument was that I

sounded like "Ottowa" (??)---well, I probably would just assume that this somebody is

an aggressive numb skull---and resolve to ignore him"

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Antigen---your head is so far up your...never mind---I don't think the quote above

even deserves a response---the tortured reasoning behind your "point" would be funny

if you weren't just being flippant about a deadly serious subject
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I know a lot of things about you. Stop kidding everyone, your two best friends are

left hand & right hand--- no one else wants to hang out with a Clueless Antisocial

Freak like You.
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 If you have all this good information and don't work at the school anymore---why not

come forward and say your name---and what you know.

I mean CEDU doesn't even exist anymore so it would be pretty paranoid of you to worry

about what they would do to you now

Unless there is something else about your leaving/dismissal (?) that you haven't told

about here yet?
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I don't see you sharing your identiity here-- ANON! Stop being such a hypocite.

Seriously, Talk about people living in glass houses--is your name GameBoy by any

chance? Hmm???
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 But you can call me Game Boy if you want to--my reason for not giving a name is that

fucking antiprogram lunatics read this board and I'm not interested in being tracked

down by one of them

No question they're dangerous lunatics, read their posts

Former CEDU Therapist is a party line man here I mean he has nothing to fear from the

lunatics--- hell he's just a cerebral version of what they are
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Your post says a lot about you--it's obvious that your highest goal is to be liked by

everyone, to be agreed with by everyone---after all, you say that since I am not,

that should be reason enough for me to leave the site.

You just don't get that I couldn't care less if some tantruming over-grown toddler-

types rant at me.

That's what happens when you're secure in who you are--hope you reach that pinnacle

someday.
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I won't say that you sound depraved, you'd probably take that as a complement,

And I don't care much about your gross language, the words and ideas aren't exactly

original or different---
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 I am the "scary" Ottawa5 "bitch" poster---and this is one of the silliest things I

have read here.

What threats? There aren't any---I hope that this Anon poster is just seeking

sympathy/attention by pretending to have weathered all these terrible assaults from

me.

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I understand the law--it is true that I have many lawyers in my family but I am not

one.
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So you haven't ever heard anything so silly----not even in your entire life??

It's hard to believe (having read some of your other illustrious posts) but then you

would be the final expert on your own existance.
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And you say that I've deleted the post in which I told you that I had printed out one

of your deleted onslaughts: no--- it is still there: in the "For Ottawa" thread on

8/2/04; 17:59:00. You'll notice that there's no reference to a legal review in it--

could that have been something you imagined, maybe a guilty conscience about your

comments which you had the eventual good sense to get rid of?
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And then there is the issue of all the pro-CEDU parents and kids that would testify

on the other side--look, they are planning a big reunion for next summer, I just got

the mailing awhile ago and you just cannot imagine how many satisfied graduates and

families there are
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Really, if you're going to be as petty as your post sounds, for penance, you might at

least stop hiding behind the Anon label and give yourself some kind of identifier

(how about "Low Blow Coward" or "Can Dish It Out But Can't Take It" or something

along thoses lines?).
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I won't talk personality disorders diagnoses on a web site---it would be pointless as

well as unethical. But just on a human basis, this person doesn't strike me as

terribly insightful or at all professional--it is more like someone using buzz-words

to try to sound professional.
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I continue to be amazed at how much effort some others must put into this, because I

really don't spend much time here at all---I just read what it is written and

respond--I suppose some people, perhaps like poor old Manchester, must be approaching

the whole thing in a much more laborious way!!
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Look, you sound like a clown to me, maybe you are a clinician--if so, I can see why

CEDU booted you out--the lack of ethics is incredible.

And talk about boundaries--what makes you think that you have any right to demand

anything at all of me?? I think I've made pretty clear that if you are really trained

to do anything in the helping sciences, I have absolutely no confidence in your

abilities or judgment (neither did the school apparently--that's why they canned you

and you've been whining about it here, and I suppose elsewhere, ever since).

So seeing as I think this way about you, why would I take your advice or your whiney

little "challenge" on anything??
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 If the best you can do in the way of writing, son, don't quit your day job.

But if your highest goal in life is to be offensive, well, I guess it isn't hard to

reach. Do drugs help, or is it alcohol these days? Ot is it just your personality to

be like that?
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My planned absence, and hiatus from this site, among other things, is delayed until

tommorrow, and I'm glad that it is, since I read your recent post, and I am just

incensed!!! "...hassling witnesses or potential witnesses"???

You have not yet, at least, crossed that line and actually accused me of a criminal

offense such as witness-tampering.

I would really advise you to think very carefully before you do---I do not know the

parameters of libel on an internet site, but I do know that there are limits, some

even currently being decided in the courts. I have four practicing attorneys, among

my closest relatives, and I have worked as a scientific analyst for a major

litigation law firm, and, believe me, if need be, I will be able to find out what my

rights in civil or criminal court are, and do something about enforcing them.
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So, tread carefully, Ginger, and do not get this poor Wyatt man, who may be a

legitimate investigator, onto a track where he believes something false that you tell

him about me and gets himself in trouble with his superiors over it.

By the way, I have saved and have hard copies of all communications, private and

public, in relation to this matter, that is, what I think is the "data" you are

talking about. So no point in trying to misrepresent it, now is there?

So, I will be checking in when I can as well as having a little legal conference with

some friends and relatives in the business, not exactly what leisure time activities

are meant to be, but it is always well to be prepared.
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It is factual that you did not use a full DSM-IV diagnosis, but what do you suppose a

licensing board would think of you, a psychologist (if your claim is correct) using

psychological terms, about me, someone you had never met, in a way that had nothing

to do with therapy, since I am not your client?
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Well, I imagine that you are out there, whether you say you only come here rarely or

not, you seem to respond pretty readily when I post about you.

The good news is that you had the insight and realization that your post of earlier

in the day was very, very unprofessional.

The bad news is that others saw it before you had the presence of mind to delete it,

and I had the presence of mind to print it out.

Have a very nice evening!
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All this concern for how much time I have to spend of the site--you must be a much

slower typer, reader, or writer than I am, I don't spend much time at this at all. It

never occurred to me before, maybe some posters are spending hours over things that

really take others a couple of minutes now and then.
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There are hundreds of posts.  I could go on (and on) quoting them, but it's a clear case of Res Ipsa Loquitur.

Welcome back, Ottowa!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
Boy DJ---you've got a lot of time on your hands--imagine spending Friday night combing this shitty forum--------------and thinking you're Perry Mason because you found a bunch of unrelated posts that use dashes for punctuation

Priceless, absolutely priceless
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 17, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-09-17 08:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Boy DJ---you've got a lot of time on your hands--imagine spending Friday night combing this shitty forum--------------and thinking you're Perry Mason because you found a bunch of unrelated posts that use dashes for punctuation



Priceless, absolutely priceless"

Oh, they're not as unrelated as you let on, now are they?  You could at least use a different computer or renew your IP address...Then again, you admit you're not "technically savvy."

Besides, even if you knew how renew your IP address, the little "bug" you have in your machine relays that information, too.  In your vigilance you didn't notice the little flash of a self-installer, did you?  

Ever heard of a Trojan (and I don't mean the condoms that you should have used before becoming a parent)?  Next time you should learn to configure your firewall properly and stealth your gaping ports...

You've been here before and gone down this road before.  You're the same dope who pretends to be a graduate student in psychology (what a joke!), threatens people with lawsuits, wants to open your own "school," sent your son to CEDU, and, in general, acts like a total bitch while bashing others.  

I'll be sure to pass on your information to the other folks you've bashed and they can do with it as they see fit.

Welcome back, Jack!  Have an enjoyable day!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 17, 2005, 12:17:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-09-17 09:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
Quote

On 2005-09-17 08:56:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Boy DJ---you've got a lot of time on your hands--imagine spending Friday night combing this shitty forum--------------and thinking you're Perry Mason because you found a bunch of unrelated posts that use dashes for punctuation





Priceless, absolutely priceless"


Oh, they're not as unrelated as you let on, now are they?  You could at least use a different computer or renew your IP address...Then again, you admit you're not "technically savvy."



Besides, even if you knew how renew your IP address, the little "bug" you have in your machine relays that information, too.  In your vigilance you didn't notice the little flash of a self-installer, did you?  



Ever heard of a Trojan (and I don't mean the condoms that you should have used before becoming a parent)?  Next time you should learn to configure your firewall properly and stealth your gaping ports...



You've been here before and gone down this road before.  You're the same dope who pretends to be a graduate student in psychology (what a joke!), threatens people with lawsuits, wants to open your own "school," sent your son to CEDU, and, in general, acts like a total bitch while bashing others.  



I'll be sure to pass on your information to the other folks you've bashed and they can do with it as they see fit.



Welcome back, Jack!  Have an enjoyable day!"

Welcome to the information age, Ottowa.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2005, 06:08:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-09-17 09:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
Quote

On 2005-09-17 08:56:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Boy DJ---you've got a lot of time on your hands--imagine spending Friday night combing this shitty forum--------------and thinking you're Perry Mason because you found a bunch of unrelated posts that use dashes for punctuation





Priceless, absolutely priceless"


Oh, they're not as unrelated as you let on, now are they?  You could at least use a different computer or renew your IP address...Then again, you admit you're not "technically savvy."



Besides, even if you knew how renew your IP address, the little "bug" you have in your machine relays that information, too.  In your vigilance you didn't notice the little flash of a self-installer, did you?  



Ever heard of a Trojan (and I don't mean the condoms that you should have used before becoming a parent)?  Next time you should learn to configure your firewall properly and stealth your gaping ports...



You've been here before and gone down this road before.  You're the same dope who pretends to be a graduate student in psychology (what a joke!), threatens people with lawsuits, wants to open your own "school," sent your son to CEDU, and, in general, acts like a total bitch while bashing others.  



I'll be sure to pass on your information to the other folks you've bashed and they can do with it as they see fit.



Welcome back, Jack!  Have an enjoyable day!"


LMAO!  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 18, 2005, 08:15:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-09-17 08:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Boy DJ---you've got a lot of time on your hands--imagine spending Friday night combing this shitty forum--------------and thinking you're Perry Mason because you found a bunch of unrelated posts that use dashes for punctuation



Priceless, absolutely priceless"

Computer, $600.00
Dialup Connection, $15.00
Your Identity, PRICELESS.

Perry Mason?  Nah.  Smarter and more resourceful than you?  Indeed.

The best part is that you posted it all yourself.  It's all for public consumption and you put it out there for everyone to see.  I just know where to look.

It has gotten awfully quiet in here.  I think I hear crickets...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on September 18, 2005, 10:12:00 AM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:   Is our troll friend actually speechless?  That's a first. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
I wish YOU were speechless, WantToBeALawyer.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on September 18, 2005, 11:19:00 AM
Why on earth would you wish I was speechless?

A wanna be lawyer would be someone WITHOUT legal training. hmmmmm

How do you define a wanna be lawyer?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 18, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
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On 2005-09-18 07:12:00, Nonconformistlaw wrote:

" :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   Is our troll friend actually speechless?  That's a first. :lol:  :lol:  :lol: "

For now, yes.  But her compulsion DEMANDS that she continue to post.  She's into "one-upsmanship" as if it were a religion.

See, the thing about hurtful, cruel, conscienceless, unaccountable, anonymous people is that their "balls" shrink when they get exposed.  

They'll do and say anything in their smug arrogance and assuredness that they're so sharp they can't be caught (like serial killers who taunt the police).  There's a psychopathic quality to these types.  Well, our troll, Ottawa5, is about as sharp as a marble, and she's been busted.

Unfortunately, the only thing these types feel sorry about is getting caught.  She has no remorse for her despicable ad hominem attacks on people who have been physically and psychologically abused at programs she blindly supports, including CEDU/RMA where she sent her son and which has been forced to close due to the lawsuits and prosecution of their staff.

Like I said, people will say and do almost any abhorrent thing as long as they feel they can't be identified.  It's actually very sad and disturbing, especially in light of the fact that a conscienceless, amoral, supremely arrogant and vain fool like her is trying to open a "program."  God help the children if she succeeds...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-09-18 05:15:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"
Quote

On 2005-09-17 08:56:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Boy DJ---you've got a lot of time on your hands--imagine spending Friday night combing this shitty forum--------------and thinking you're Perry Mason because you found a bunch of unrelated posts that use dashes for punctuation





Priceless, absolutely priceless"


Computer, $600.00

Dialup Connection, $15.00

Your Identity, PRICELESS.



Perry Mason?  Nah.  Smarter and more resourceful than you?  Indeed.



The best part is that you posted it all yourself.  It's all for public consumption and you put it out there for everyone to see.  I just know where to look.



It has gotten awfully quiet in here.  I think I hear crickets...


"


I'm just glad to know that I'm not the only one out there who is still on a dialup connection.

Hey, what can I say? I'm poor.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 18, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
Too funny.  But, hey, if you're just doing email and some bb browsing, it works...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 19, 2005, 08:16:00 AM
Wow, Ottawa5 with nothing to say.  This is a first. :smile:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 19, 2005, 10:08:00 AM
This is one of Ottawa5's posts from another site.  See how she rails against "anaon posters" and people from Fornits?  Isn't it a bit funny that she does EXACTLY what she complains about?



"Is it true that this forum has gotten rid of anons?
Gentiana

Posts: 6 Posted: Jan 12, 2005 - 09:21 PM  
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 If so, thank you Alex. I am the mother of a successful RMA grad and I am interested in a place to be in touch with the experiences of other parents (and kids) who have been in a CEDU school--- for reasons of research and technical understanding.

It seems like people are more real, as well as more decent and respectful, if they have to attach some kind of identifier to their posts. Maybe it's sad that it has to be that way, but that seems to be how it is.

Not that a name guarantees sane or decent behavior. Look for example at the Fornit's site to see some really sad behavior, with and without identifiers.

Earlier in the year, I found the Fornit's site and tried to understand the experiences of students who felt that they did not benefit from CEDU. I really wanted to comprehend why this was so---my initial thinking was that perhaps these reactions were based on isolated experiences with bad counsellors in one school or another.

Eventually, it was my conclusion that the people who responded with vehemently anti-CEDU remarks (in some cases, even with death threats directed toward me or my family), likely had "issues" that were beyond what any non-lock-down program could deal with. Of course this is useful information to have, but probably does not address any detriments or strengths that the more typical student might identify in the CEDU experience.

I would really like to hear about how CEDU (that is, the specific schools) was for anyone who reads this. I am interested in critical, as well as positive posts--omitting threats, abuse, etc. (el a Fornits') would be greatly appreciated. And facilitated by Alex's excellent plan to eliminate anons."


What a hypocritical loser.  Nobody can believe or give credence to single word that comes out of this phoney's mouth (or keyboard, as it were).
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 19, 2005, 03:44:00 PM
Topic: RMA closing hurts but it doesn't have to be the end  
Gentiana
Junior Member
Member # 4461

  posted February 12, 2005 07:16 AM                        
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"I've got to say that at first I was pretty torn up to hear that Rocky Mountain Academy closed. My child graduated from there in 1999 and it was life-changing permanent experience for our family.

I was in Mel Wassserman's last advanced work-shop---he had just sold CEDU to Brown Schools and was about to go into retirement (if anyone reading was in that last workshop on Bottle Bay Road---email me).

I remember a moment in the workshop when Mel was asked something or other about the direction that CEDU would take.

His rather brisk answer (and remember, Mel could be a bit cranky by nature) showed that he was somewhat suspicious of change for change's sake-- what he called "program masters" coming in and reinventing things just to get their own name out there. But he also addressed the fact that change is always going on and that the important thing, with CEDU or anything else) is to guard the essential truths, the core beliefs, in the midst of change.

I'm sorry for the kids and families that got caught in the middle of the closing---I'd be mad too. Maybe company management bungled the decline and closing, I don't know.

But what I do know is that everyone who really believes in the things that we learned, as parents or as kids in CEDU (at least as it was when our family were connected to it)---if we really believe, then it's up to us to keep that knowledge alive---and that can be done by simply living as a complete loving person with integrety and connected to others, or by actively being involved in a field of endeavor that allows for the actual use of what was learned there.

I think that, at first, I was sad because I was overly connected to the physical place of RMA---now I'm trying to focus on the ideals---that's really what matters, what changed our family, what currently fuels the career change that I made after those workshops---it's sad, like a death even, but it's not the end.

I'll still finish my training and I'll work with kids in trouble, and I'll apply what I learned from our experiences with the school and with Mel and Bill and others--whether or not a school specifically called Rocky Mountain Academy is in operation.

If we keep that focus---which I think was Mel was talking about--- we can build in ways, a variety of ways, that improve even what RMA was at its peak---and the memories of what it was then, can be the energy that will keep us motivated and energized to do as much or even more in the future."




Awwww, ain't that touching, Ottawa5...  Boy, you musta drank a few gallons of the Kool-Aid!

A "complete loving person" with "itegrety"?  Shit, you don't have "integrety" or integrity.  Where are your "ideals" when you post your hateful garbage?

"If we only believe enough..."  Yeah whatever, lady.  Your beliefs and $1.50 will get you on the A Train.

You, as a person, simply don't stack up against what you'd like for others to believe about you.  You're so full of shit it's not even funny.  How does it feel knowing that everyone else knows you're a complete and total fraud?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
definitely sounds like the troll thats been here for a while.

funny how quickly it shut them up!

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 20, 2005, 02:25:00 PM
it is funny, isn't it?  where's all that superiority complex now?  she's just another asshole troll trying to be a bully while hiding under the bag.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2005, 02:04:00 PM
Man, these program mother smuckers are imbeciles.

 :smokin:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 22, 2005, 11:10:00 AM
This thread should be renamed Ottawa5InMinneapolis.

It could be subtitled "A Troll No More"...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 22, 2005, 06:56:00 PM
I see you lurking, Ottawa...  I see you checking...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 24, 2005, 08:09:00 AM
Quote

On 2005-09-20 08:18:00, Anonymous wrote:

"definitely sounds like the troll thats been here for a while.



funny how quickly it shut them up!



 :skull:  :skull:  :skull:  :skull:  :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 24, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
To Woodbury personnel who approve new logins and passwords:


I stumbled across your web site recently. A few years ago, as the mother of a teenager who was having many conduct problems, I enrolledmy son in Rocky Mountain Academy (RMA) and the results were more than his father and I could ever have hoped for. He is now a student at the U of Minnesota, looking at graduate school opportunities, but more than that, he is a happy, aware individual who is connected with those around him. He just spent a college semester abroad in a program that the U of M contracts with in Amsterdam, and since he knew that I would, as a parent, be a little nervous about him being overseas and in that particular location, he set up a web site on which he posted multiple photos and information to keep us in touch with his actitivities and locations.

As a result of our family's experiences at RMA, not only has my son done well, but I was inspired to change my fown field of interest. I was a biologist and MBA ,and on the basis of my RMA interactions with Bill Valentine and with Mel Wasserman in the last Advanced Workshop that he gave at RMA, I entered the field of psychology. I was just granted my Masters' and am working on my Doctorate, and it is my hope to start a school of my own someday, keeping intact the ideas that Mel and his compatriates developed.

So, on this basis, I am very interested in your web site. I have submitted a registration and have been assigned a login (user) name and a password and am waiting to have approval, as I think that I can gain from hearing the concerns of other parents, as well as being able to contribute to the understanding of others on the basis of my own experience with an emotional growth boarding school.


A.S. Hall
[email protected]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 25, 2005, 07:47:00 AM
:scared:
very scary thought.  this person working with kids makes my stomach turn.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 25, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-09-24 10:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

"To Woodbury personnel who approve new logins and passwords:





I stumbled across your web site recently. A few years ago, as the mother of a teenager who was having many conduct problems, I enrolledmy son in Rocky Mountain Academy (RMA) and the results were more than his father and I could ever have hoped for. He is now a student at the U of Minnesota, looking at graduate school opportunities, but more than that, he is a happy, aware individual who is connected with those around him. He just spent a college semester abroad in a program that the U of M contracts with in Amsterdam, and since he knew that I would, as a parent, be a little nervous about him being overseas and in that particular location, he set up a web site on which he posted multiple photos and information to keep us in touch with his actitivities and locations.



As a result of our family's experiences at RMA, not only has my son done well, but I was inspired to change my fown field of interest. I was a biologist and MBA ,and on the basis of my RMA interactions with Bill Valentine and with Mel Wasserman in the last Advanced Workshop that he gave at RMA, I entered the field of psychology. I was just granted my Masters' and am working on my Doctorate, and it is my hope to start a school of my own someday, keeping intact the ideas that Mel and his compatriates developed.



So, on this basis, I am very interested in your web site. I have submitted a registration and have been assigned a login (user) name and a password and am waiting to have approval, as I think that I can gain from hearing the concerns of other parents, as well as being able to contribute to the understanding of others on the basis of my own experience with an emotional growth boarding school.





A.S. Hall

[email protected]



"

Say her signature slowly..."asshole"  :nworthy:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 26, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
:smokin:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2005, 09:33:00 PM
::rainbow::  ::ribbon::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 29, 2005, 12:41:00 PM
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On 2005-09-19 12:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

" Topic: RMA closing hurts but it doesn't have to be the end  

Gentiana

Junior Member

Member # 4461



  posted February 12, 2005 07:16 AM                        

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"I've got to say that at first I was pretty torn up to hear that Rocky Mountain Academy closed. My child graduated from there in 1999 and it was life-changing permanent experience for our family.



I was in Mel Wassserman's last advanced work-shop---he had just sold CEDU to Brown Schools and was about to go into retirement (if anyone reading was in that last workshop on Bottle Bay Road---email me).



I remember a moment in the workshop when Mel was asked something or other about the direction that CEDU would take.



His rather brisk answer (and remember, Mel could be a bit cranky by nature) showed that he was somewhat suspicious of change for change's sake-- what he called "program masters" coming in and reinventing things just to get their own name out there. But he also addressed the fact that change is always going on and that the important thing, with CEDU or anything else) is to guard the essential truths, the core beliefs, in the midst of change.



I'm sorry for the kids and families that got caught in the middle of the closing---I'd be mad too. Maybe company management bungled the decline and closing, I don't know.



But what I do know is that everyone who really believes in the things that we learned, as parents or as kids in CEDU (at least as it was when our family were connected to it)---if we really believe, then it's up to us to keep that knowledge alive---and that can be done by simply living as a complete loving person with integrety and connected to others, or by actively being involved in a field of endeavor that allows for the actual use of what was learned there.



I think that, at first, I was sad because I was overly connected to the physical place of RMA---now I'm trying to focus on the ideals---that's really what matters, what changed our family, what currently fuels the career change that I made after those workshops---it's sad, like a death even, but it's not the end.



I'll still finish my training and I'll work with kids in trouble, and I'll apply what I learned from our experiences with the school and with Mel and Bill and others--whether or not a school specifically called Rocky Mountain Academy is in operation.



If we keep that focus---which I think was Mel was talking about--- we can build in ways, a variety of ways, that improve even what RMA was at its peak---and the memories of what it was then, can be the energy that will keep us motivated and energized to do as much or even more in the future."









Awwww, ain't that touching, Ottawa5...  Boy, you musta drank a few gallons of the Kool-Aid!



A "complete loving person" with "itegrety"?  Shit, you don't have "integrety" or integrity.  Where are your "ideals" when you post your hateful garbage?



"If we only believe enough..."  Yeah whatever, lady.  Your beliefs and $1.50 will get you on the A Train.



You, as a person, simply don't stack up against what you'd like for others to believe about you.  You're so full of shit it's not even funny.  How does it feel knowing that everyone else knows you're a complete and total fraud?

 

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This will tell you a lot about what kind of person she is and where her "philosophy" comes from.

If you want to see how nasty and abusive she is, just read her posts as Ottawa5 and as an anon (many have been pointed out).

Have fun, but be prepared to see into the mind of ONE SICK FUCKER...It ain't pretty...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2005, 01:26:00 PM
Let's hope Ottawa is OUTTA HERE b/c her toxic philosophy is super gross.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 29, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
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On 2005-09-29 10:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Let's hope Ottawa is OUTTA HERE b/c her toxic philosophy is super gross."

She's here.  She's trying to use different verbiage and punctuation to hide her tell-tale mangling of the English language, but I follow her by IP address, so I know where she's been.

Undoubtedly she's digging around looking for lawsuit fodder.  

Good luck, Annie, you fucking nut job.  Have fun re-reading my posts (again).
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 01, 2005, 08:32:00 AM
::kiss:: Love ya, Annie!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
:flame:  :silly:  :wave:  :wave:  :wave:  :wave:  :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2005, 11:26:00 AM
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... m=11#59078 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=6415&forum=11#59078)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 08, 2005, 01:22:00 PM
Truly the ULTIMATE hypocrite.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
I think I saw Karen on ABC's 'The Swan' once. She was scary looking both before and after.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2005, 02:29:00 AM
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On 2005-09-14 20:26:00, KarenInDallas wrote:

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On 2005-09-14 17:21:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Karen does not post on this forum. She doesn't even read it.  Enjoy yourselves!"




Speak for yourself, you self-hating forniscator! I might sue you for spreading lies. Damn you all to hell!!!  :flame: I'll post here forever and your games won't stop me. You all belong in programs, you stupid little fucks.   :flame:  :flame: "


Karen smells like shit.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on November 24, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
Wow - how very clever of you - typical fornitscator.
I smell like shit for medical reasons, so if you get your jollies poking fun at disabled people, go right ahead. I think you got our of your program too early, and I will be sure to work my hardest a lawyer to keep all you crazy teens in as long as I can. I am unemployed and this gives me plenty of time to fuck with you all, both on fornits, and down the street at the local arcade. I love fucking with teens, in fact, I live for it!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2005, 01:20:00 PM
Hey Annie, why the new name? Oh you changed your writing style up a little bit, eh? Unfortunately your past posts don't go away, and I can still---recognize---this---style---anywhere. And I can't count how many times you called someone a 'typical fornitscator' or a 'typical fornits bully'. How many forums do you need to be outed in?

For anyone that has had the pleasure of a good laugh over KarenInDallas' rants, this is merely the newest in a long line of identities for great Anne Hall, aka Annie from Minneapolis. Her and her "successful son" (probably just another one of her many personalities) float through as many forums on fornits as "they" can, as well as cedualumni.com and strugglingteens.com, and who knows what else. Ottawa2, Ottawa5, gentiana, and often just a bag over the head are her many identities.

New name, same bullshit. Pretending to be a lawyer now? What happened to the doctorate? and the MBA? What about that plan to get your PsyD and open up a new boarding school?

I feel bad for your kids.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2005, 07:54:00 PM
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On 2005-11-24 06:52:00, KarenInDallas wrote:

"Wow - how very clever of you - typical fornitscator.

I will be sure to work my hardest a lawyer to keep all you crazy teens in as long as I can. "


Please excuse my many grammatical errors, we all know how easy it was for me to suck my way...OOPS I mean breeze my way through law school!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on November 26, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
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On 2005-11-26 16:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-11-24 06:52:00, KarenInDallas wrote:


"Wow - how very clever of you - typical fornitscator.


I will be sure to work my hardest a lawyer to keep all you crazy teens in as long as I can. "




Please excuse my many grammatical errors, we all know how easy it was for me to suck my way...OOPS I mean breeze my way through law school!"


 ::fuckoff::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2005, 10:15:00 PM
Shutup bitch
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2005, 09:36:00 AM
I love you karen, I want you to eat my sperm.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2005, 12:18:00 AM
You know what Karen? You make a pig look clean. Someone needs to report you to the barr. If you really are a lawyer. You are nothing but a bitch. I HATE to say this but your kids are better off away from you. Your no mother a mother fucker yes but not a mother. You sound like a very bitter person. I cant even call you a woman because a REAL woman is a mother to there children. A REAL woman doesnt speak to people the way you do. You are a piece of TRASH and everyone knows it and I think deep inside you know it too. ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2005, 12:21:00 AM
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On 2005-11-24 06:52:00, KarenInDallas wrote:

"Wow - how very clever of you - typical fornitscator.

I smell like shit for medical reasons, so if you get your jollies poking fun at disabled people, go right ahead. I think you got our of your program too early, and I will be sure to work my hardest a lawyer to keep all you crazy teens in as long as I can. I am unemployed and this gives me plenty of time to fuck with you all, both on fornits, and down the street at the local arcade. I love fucking with teens, in fact, I live for it! "
You smell like shit or is it you Are a piece of SHIT. ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
Wow. I never thought I would find a website quite like this, yet here I am. I went on an a date with someone who calls herself 'Karen in Dallas' about a week ago and it was quite the experience I must say! Not only was she butt-ass ugly, but she smelled as if she had just smeared dog shit all over herself. This is when she proceeds to explain to me she is really into SCAT and similar activities, and please to ignore the smell. (not sure you can call that 'medical' as she claimed in a previous posting) Overall I judge this woman to be completely insane. The shit thing put me off really fast, so I excused myself to the bathroom and left after about 3 mins. She only had long enough to tell me she spends her time on a place called FORNITS working on behalf of god or something weird. I googled fornits, then searched for Karen and here I am. What a small world we live in.

Avoid this psycho at all costs, otherwise, you might end up with shit on your hands.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2005, 08:37:00 PM
Lets get this up to 5000 views! woot woot  :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2005, 08:49:00 PM
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On 2005-12-13 12:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Wow. I never thought I would find a website quite like this, yet here I am. I went on an a date with someone who calls herself 'Karen in Dallas' about a week ago and it was quite the experience I must say! Not only was she butt-ass ugly, but she smelled as if she had just smeared dog shit all over herself. This is when she proceeds to explain to me she is really into SCAT and similar activities, and please to ignore the smell. (not sure you can call that 'medical' as she claimed in a previous posting) Overall I judge this woman to be completely insane. The shit thing put me off really fast, so I excused myself to the bathroom and left after about 3 mins. She only had long enough to tell me she spends her time on a place called FORNITS working on behalf of god or something weird. I googled fornits, then searched for Karen and here I am. What a small world we live in.



Avoid this psycho at all costs, otherwise, you might end up with shit on your hands."
Confirmed bullshit..This has to be...Right??
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 17, 2005, 04:09:00 PM
Karen,can I shit in your mouth baby???
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on December 17, 2005, 08:37:00 PM
Of course its bullshit. Anybody who actually thinks otherwise has to have been living under a rock most of their life.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 17, 2005, 08:44:00 PM
(http://http://chuckandvicka.tripod.com/C%20&%20V%20under%20a%20very%20delicately%20balanced%20rock.jpg)

 :???:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 17, 2005, 09:08:00 PM
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On 2005-12-17 17:37:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Of course its bullshit. Anybody who actually thinks otherwise has to have been living under a rock most of their life."
Are you positive? Im being serious, some women like that shit stuff...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 17, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
It's real.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 17, 2005, 09:53:00 PM
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On 2005-12-17 18:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"It's real. "
My dick in your ass is real too, little nigger, now go clean your works like a good junkie!!! Cock-sucker :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on December 18, 2005, 01:19:00 PM
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On 2005-12-17 18:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-12-17 18:31:00, Anonymous wrote:


"It's real. "

My dick in your ass is real too, little nigger, now go clean your works like a good junkie!!! Cock-sucker :nworthy:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 18, 2005, 04:22:00 PM
Nope, Im her side-piece...No GO CLEAN YOUR FUCKING WORKS FAGGOT
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 18, 2005, 09:11:00 PM
So Karen DOESN'T like scat partys, correct??
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 18, 2005, 09:15:00 PM
... got Karen under my chair now toying with my shitty ass... yah she likes scat... dont ya karen... donta ya... [shes looking up smilin with her shitty face] ... good girl  ::blushing::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on December 19, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
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On 2005-12-18 18:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So Karen DOESN'T like scat partys, correct??"

Wrong.  She like to lie on the floor with her mouth open while her man curls up a "soft cone" in her mouth.  She's a shit-eater.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2005, 12:02:00 PM
I can confirm, Karen is a shit-eater.




PS: Dont kiss her.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2005, 06:40:00 PM
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On 2005-12-18 18:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"... got Karen under my chair now toying with my shitty ass... yah she likes scat... dont ya karen... donta ya... [shes looking up smilin with her shitty face] ... good girl  ::blushing:: "
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2005, 06:41:00 PM
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On 2005-12-19 07:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-12-18 18:11:00, Anonymous wrote:


"So Karen DOESN'T like scat partys, correct??"


Wrong.  She like to lie on the floor with her mouth open while her man curls up a "soft cone" in her mouth.  She's a shit-eater."
Demented , I love it you sick creative fucks!! :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2005, 08:33:00 PM
Karen... do you do diarhhea?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2005, 08:36:00 PM
Oh, thats her fave, only on special occasions though!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
Play Snack or Scat

Get ready for your date with Karen!

http://www.modestypanel.com/snackorscat/ (http://www.modestypanel.com/snackorscat/)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2005, 09:01:00 PM
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On 2005-12-19 17:43:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Play Snack or Scat



Get ready for your date with Karen!



http://www.modestypanel.com/snackorscat/ (http://www.modestypanel.com/snackorscat/)"
Excellent find my sick friend, excellent!!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2005, 12:28:00 PM
Karen, why didn't you show up last night? I still got my shit floating in the toilet... but its getting mushy... hope you like that.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2005, 04:10:00 PM
(http://http://jk0.org/temp/lol/lollerbate2.gif)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2005, 07:40:00 PM
I have some more shit for you Karen!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
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On 2005-12-20 16:40:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I have some more shit for you Karen! "
:rofl:  :rofl:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on December 25, 2005, 01:54:00 AM
karen i love you so much why wont you call me. its christmas eve and im here all alone typicng at the public library computer and they tell me i have to leave for good son. why wont you love me back karen i saaid i would play with your asshole and eat your shit like you like.. why oh why karen wont you love m back. i love you karen. please take my calls i love you karen. - you know who
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on January 02, 2006, 09:13:00 PM
karen i want to finger your a-hole and then lick it. i love doing that. karen why wont you come back to me.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on January 02, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
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On 2006-01-02 18:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"karen i want to finger your a-hole and then lick it. i love doing that. karen why wont you come back to me."
:rofl:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on January 02, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
Two in the pink, one in the stink!!!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on February 06, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
420 posts... coincidence? I think not!

 :smokin:  smoke up~
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on February 07, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
Sorry to kill the 420 theory by adding 421, but this thread should never die...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2006, 01:09:00 PM
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On 2005-09-01 09:51:00, SHH Anon Classics wrote:

"If Karen ceased to be "anonymous" anymore because someone posted her name, phone number and email address, then YES she can sue for slander. If you will notice, the "hearing" about coke sniffing and excessive drinking is just that, "hearing". It's not like you have a positive drug test or a conviction for DUI or possession. So you can't assume that info you "heard" about is true, nor can you accuse someone of that and discredit their reputation based on lies someone else told about someone they don't like."


Lookie what we got here.  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Deborah on February 07, 2006, 01:18:00 PM
***So you can't assume that info you "heard" about is true, nor can you accuse someone of that and discredit their reputation based on lies someone else told about someone they don't like.

Good advice for programs, particularly Fall Out, where one is punished for the accusations of their peers. No proof necessary.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on February 17, 2006, 07:55:00 PM
This thread will NEVER DIE.  Thank ol' Carlbrookie for bringing it up! :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on February 17, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
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On 2006-02-17 16:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"This thread will NEVER DIE.  Thank ol' Carlbrookie for bringing it up! ::fuckoff::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on February 24, 2006, 07:30:00 PM
Karen is still among us.  :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2006, 07:49:00 PM
Shes a CUNT and always will be. ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on February 27, 2006, 01:34:00 PM
:wstupid:  :wstupid:  :wstupid:

Eat shit motherfucker.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2006, 06:44:00 PM
::boycott::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 11, 2006, 02:27:00 PM
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On 2006-02-26 16:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Shes a CUNT and always will be. ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed:: "


 :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:

Up yours, Karen you nasty bitch.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 03:10:00 PM
Yes, I can certainly understand why your parents sent you away.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 03:21:00 PM
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On 2006-03-11 12:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yes, I can certainly understand why your parents sent you away."


Sup Karen?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 03:36:00 PM
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On 2006-02-27 10:34:00, KarenInDallas wrote:

" ::bigmouth::  ::bigmouth::  ::bigmouth::  ::bigmouth::  ::bigmouth::  ::bigmouth::  ::bigmouth::  ::bandit::  ::bandit::  ::bandit::  ::bandit::  ::bandit::  ::bandit::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 11, 2006, 05:03:00 PM
::puke:: Karen
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 11, 2006, 05:05:00 PM
Karen  ::unhappy::

 ::fuckoff::  ::both:: Karen
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
I took Karen out on a date last summer. She was average, somewhat plump, smart - but not too smart, overall a very good date. I kissed her on the cheek and said goodnight. She never returned my calls. Karen, why won't you call me back?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 11, 2006, 05:20:00 PM
send her to fat camp, then bang her.  not the other way around. :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 05:23:00 PM
isnt Karen beautiful?

(http://http://www.iapsnj.org/nia/bikini.jpg)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 11, 2006, 05:28:00 PM
wow.  that says it all...  

no wonder she's mad all the time, is unemployed, and hangs at home posting all day every day.  this information explains a great deal.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Fake Parent Troll on March 11, 2006, 05:28:00 PM
::crybaby::  ::crybaby::  ::crybaby::  ::crybaby::

YOU GUYS CANT STOP CRYING ABOUT ME CAN YOU?!?! PATHETIC!
FUCK ALL YOU DAMN FORNISCATORS!!!
Do YOU think that YOU can post pictures of ME and not GET SUED?!?!? You must know I AM A LAWYER GOD DAMNIT! Keep posting my PICS and INFO and SEE WHAT HAPPENS --- BITCHES!
Your parents took you OUT OF THE PROGRAM WAY TOO EARLY! I know WHY you got sent away -- PUKE FILLED BASTARDS!
TO THE KAREN IMPOSTER --- FUCK YOU! You attention seeking WHOREBAG go get a personality of your own. DONT COME SUCKING UP MY GLORY CUNT! ILL SUE YOU TOO.
FUCKERS.
 ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::fuckoff::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::  ::both::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 11, 2006, 06:19:00 PM
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On 2006-03-11 14:28:00, KarenInDallas wrote:

"::crybaby::  ::blushing::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 12, 2006, 09:09:00 AM
442 posts and almost 8,000 views.  This is one of the longest lasting threads on this entire site.

Does anyone really think that someone could get this much attention by simply "disagreeing" with others?  That flies in the face of common sense.

This much attention has to be earned.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2006, 11:09:00 AM
karen is a whore  :eek:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2006, 11:09:00 AM
I work with someone named Karen Austin is this thread about her? Can you tell me more?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 12, 2006, 11:43:00 AM
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On 2006-03-12 08:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I work with someone named Karen Austin is this thread about her? Can you tell me more?"


Is she an attorney?  Was she recently unemployed? Did she send her kid away to an "emotional growth" program?  Does she brag about her kid being a superior athlete and "captain of his team"?  Are you in or near Dallas?

If you answered "yes" to all these questions, then yes, it's probably the same Karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2006, 02:04:00 PM
Wait, you left out "attends an elite Northeast boarding school."
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2006, 02:21:00 PM
:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2006, 11:51:00 PM
She cant really be a lawyer. A officer of the court dosent talk like that for one thing.Her mouth comes stright from the trailer park. Come on does any one here really know this bitch? Shes no more a lawyer then iam the  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::  ::unhappy::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2006, 11:53:00 PM
when pepole smell you they do this.. ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2006, 05:42:00 PM
I had no idea how fat you were Karen, gross!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2006, 07:47:00 PM
I --- > ::crybaby:: <--- Karen
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2006, 10:54:00 AM
You Fornitscators have no right to post pictures of me--and if you do it again--I'll sue you for slander!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
That picture is not Karen, she is much fatter.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2006, 09:06:00 PM
Yep, a real porker alright.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 24, 2006, 07:31:00 AM
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On 2006-03-23 22:06:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"wow this thread is still going on????

The Christian God can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, evil and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed, beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of the people who say they serve him. The are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat

"


This thread will NEVER die.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: 69 on March 24, 2006, 04:10:00 PM
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On 2006-03-24 04:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-03-23 22:06:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:


"wow this thread is still going on????

The Christian God can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, evil and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed, beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of the people who say they serve him. The are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat

"




This thread will NEVER die."


 :nworthy:  :smokin:  :silly:  :rofl:  :roll:  :oops:

I believe that human beings arrive on this Earth wanting to know absolutely everything, and the best thing we can do as parents is to get out of the way -- just be there to let them know what opportunities are there
-- Dorothy Werner, media liaison for the National Homeschool Association

Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on March 27, 2006, 02:14:00 PM
She says she's an "avid runner."  Maybe that was back and forth to the fridge???

:bump: :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
Karen and I went on a date last night. We had dinner, laughed, had a few drinks and then came home. Karen layed down on my floor as I unzipped my pants, squated down over her smiling face and dropped a fat load right into her mouth. Then she payed me a hundred dollars for giving her that pleasure. Then I  told the fat bitch to leave, she's sore on the eyes.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on April 01, 2006, 04:25:00 PM
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On 2006-03-31 15:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Karen and I went on a date last night. We had dinner, laughed, had a few drinks and then came home. Karen layed down on my floor as I unzipped my pants, squated down over her smiling face and dropped a fat load right into her mouth. Then she payed me a hundred dollars for giving her that pleasure. Then I  told the fat bitch to leave, she's sore on the eyes."


Awww...  She's a lovely little shit-eater.

Let me ask you, did you curl it up neatly like soft cone, or was it a splatter that gave her freckles?

I know she loves it both ways.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on April 09, 2006, 05:17:00 PM
bump-ity bump
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymis on April 09, 2006, 05:39:00 PM
:scared:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on April 09, 2006, 07:09:00 PM
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On 2006-03-11 14:23:00, Anonymous wrote:

"isnt Karen beautiful?



(http://http://www.iapsnj.org/nia/bikini.jpg)"


Karen is pretty big.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on April 09, 2006, 11:02:00 PM
::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on April 10, 2006, 11:23:00 AM
She is mighty plump.  And a huge liar, too.  All the qualities men want.  No wonder she doesn't have one (except the fecal-sex prostitues she hires  :lol:)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on April 10, 2006, 01:50:00 PM
There are a lot of crevaces to be cleaned on that beauty. She's out in a bathing suit.....it must be warm weather. Well, I take that back it could be 40 below zero?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2006, 05:52:00 PM
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On 2006-04-09 16:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-03-11 14:23:00, Anonymous wrote:


"isnt Karen beautiful?





(http://http://www.iapsnj.org/nia/bikini.jpg)"




Karen is pretty big."


 :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:

Thats so funny you were able to take a picture of Karen!!! She is so fat.... why is she outside in a bathing suit? No wonder she never leaves this forum, she's probably stuck in her chair.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on April 10, 2006, 06:10:00 PM
This is funny. I was googling names of my ex-lovers and found this site after searching for my brief yet interesting adventure known as Karen, from Dallas. Like the earlier posters, we had a normal time. She invited me to her place, and she cooked for us. We had fried twinkies with onion rings and chocalate milkshakes for dinner, and a couple drinks, natural ice in the can. She was funny, and talked a lot about her cats, she has lots of cats. After dinner, we had dessert so we split a cheesecake, with chocolate frosting. It was good, really good. It really got me in the mood for the night. We were going to go out to the movies, but we were so hot for each other after that cake and frosting we moved over to the couch. We put "Wild Wild West" DVD in the player and started watching, she says Will Smith makes her blood boil. After a few minutes of watching I asked her if she wanted to eat some more chocolate frosting. She said sure, then I asked her, not cake frosting, my chocolate frosting... are you cool with that? All of a sudden a huge smile appeared across her face. She told me normally she doesn't ask her "bears" (what she calls male lovers) to satisfy her undesirable desire for scat. I was excited, not every girl says yes, the fatties usually do 'cause they are desperate to get some. She rolled off the couch and turned over (with my help)and assumed the position. As we watched Will Smith, Kevin Kline and Salma Hayek take on the bad guys out west, I lit up a ciggarette to get the plumbing moving along. I got her started by melting some hershey bars in the microwave, and pooring them all over her enormous body. It absolutely drove her NUTS she couldn't eat it. She was now ready. I stripped naked, with only my ciggarette in my mouth. I crouched down over her smiling face, as she was making grunting noises getting ready to accept my goodness I got really excited. I took a long drag off my camel unfiltered and as I exhaled I felt a large terd coming down and release from me as I was strugging to aim. Bullseye.....right into Karen's mouth. Her muddy brown smile as she looked up at me was amazing and I immediately came all over her face. As soon as she felt my warm gooeyness all over her face her pussy exploded and a ton of liquid started pooring out, it was pretty gross. I was done and had my fun and went to the bathroom to wipe. Then I washed my hands, got dressed, took a quick picture with my digital phone camera for posterity, and walked out the door. Don't take what karen says too seriously, she's probably got shit on her face right now. If you read this karen, sorry about bailing on you, call me, we'll do it again some time!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on April 11, 2006, 08:37:00 AM
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She rolled off the couch and turned over (with my help)and assumed the position.


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Classic.  This little vignette had the genuine feel of a romance novella.  Jackie Collins, eat your heart out...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on April 12, 2006, 02:13:00 AM
Karen is fat, but she could always lose weight. One thing she can never change is the fact she is a bitch, plain and simple.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: OverLordd on April 16, 2006, 01:10:00 AM
OH MY GOD!!!! You people are still harping on this!!! God Almighty! Go to bed, I mean come on! people wonder why we dont get taken seriously.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2006, 02:17:00 AM
::soapbox::  :wstupid:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on April 17, 2006, 11:04:00 AM
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On 2005-08-05 18:57:00, OverLordd wrote:

"I'll tell her she has been challenged here. I cannot say she will respond, infact I think she said she would not longer post, but I will ask."


I think we got that one covered, buddy.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on April 17, 2006, 11:06:00 AM
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On 2005-09-01 09:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Anon- I am not Karen, either, but I am very familiar with her from the other, more reputable site. She is an extremely intelligent lawyer and an excellent parent whose kid has bounced back after his wilderness and TBS stints to be a super-star in every way.  She told me she posted a few times on this site and then got out when she realized there was no rational discussion going on."


"I'm not me.  I swear!"
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2006, 03:31:00 PM
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On 2005-09-17 06:29:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"
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On 2005-09-17 05:40:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Anybody who thinks these posts by a "KareninDallas" is the original real person by the name of Karen is a little slow to say the least. I hope these people posting to her are just playing along, if not, they have some serious issues  :silly: "


Yeah, I think it's safe to say that everyone knows it is not KarenInDallas continuing to post, although she did post earlier and acted like a jerk.



Our latest troll, the one seemingly having very explicit sexual thoughts about me, is none other than the haggard old troll from the CEDU forums, Ottowa.  She's been trolling this board for at over a year at least and uses the same tactics over and over: flame, threaten and deny.



You should read some of the ridiculous posts she has written.  Nearly all involve coarse affrontery, name-calling, belittling, vulgarity and, most of all, her claims of having "powerful legal friends" who will initiate lawsuits against those with whom she disagrees.



Ottowa is one of the vehement "program parents" (although there is some doubt about this - she may be an employee of a program) who just can't let anyone express divergent opinions about CEDU/RMA or "EG" programs in general without penalty.  Sadly, she's been consumed by it all and has resorted to remaining anonymous now, as all of her previous threats/promises have come to naught, and the username "Ottowa5" has been stained by her own actions.



It's pretty sad to see she's kept up her bristling vigilance of this site for more than a year in her impotent attempts to discredit program survivors and critics.  She must be a seriously disturbed person to invest that much time in futility, unless, of course, she just gets off on the friction...
"


this is so true, even seven months later.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 02, 2006, 05:17:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-09-11 07:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Oh I AM serious, Sonny boy--and now you're on the list too.  I'm going to show you some real "power of attorney"!!!"


a karen classic! :nworthy:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 02, 2006, 05:21:00 PM
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On 2006-04-17 08:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
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On 2005-09-01 09:26:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Anon- I am not Karen, either, but I am very familiar with her from the other, more reputable site. She is an extremely intelligent lawyer and an excellent parent whose kid has bounced back after his wilderness and TBS stints to be a super-star in every way.  She told me she posted a few times on this site and then got out when she realized there was no rational discussion going on."




"I'm not me.  I swear!""


 :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2006, 07:15:00 PM
Quote
On 2006-04-10 15:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"This is funny. I was googling names of my ex-lovers and found this site after searching for my brief yet interesting adventure known as Karen, from Dallas. Like the earlier posters, we had a normal time. She invited me to her place, and she cooked for us. We had fried twinkies with onion rings and chocalate milkshakes for dinner, and a couple drinks, natural ice in the can. She was funny, and talked a lot about her cats, she has lots of cats. After dinner, we had dessert so we split a cheesecake, with chocolate frosting. It was good, really good. It really got me in the mood for the night. We were going to go out to the movies, but we were so hot for each other after that cake and frosting we moved over to the couch. We put "Wild Wild West" DVD in the player and started watching, she says Will Smith makes her blood boil. After a few minutes of watching I asked her if she wanted to eat some more chocolate frosting. She said sure, then I asked her, not cake frosting, my chocolate frosting... are you cool with that? All of a sudden a huge smile appeared across her face. She told me normally she doesn't ask her "bears" (what she calls male lovers) to satisfy her undesirable desire for scat. I was excited, not every girl says yes, the fatties usually do 'cause they are desperate to get some. She rolled off the couch and turned over (with my help)and assumed the position. As we watched Will Smith, Kevin Kline and Salma Hayek take on the bad guys out west, I lit up a ciggarette to get the plumbing moving along. I got her started by melting some hershey bars in the microwave, and pooring them all over her enormous body. It absolutely drove her NUTS she couldn't eat it. She was now ready. I stripped naked, with only my ciggarette in my mouth. I crouched down over her smiling face, as she was making grunting noises getting ready to accept my goodness I got really excited. I took a long drag off my camel unfiltered and as I exhaled I felt a large terd coming down and release from me as I was strugging to aim. Bullseye.....right into Karen's mouth. Her muddy brown smile as she looked up at me was amazing and I immediately came all over her face. As soon as she felt my warm gooeyness all over her face her pussy exploded and a ton of liquid started pooring out, it was pretty gross. I was done and had my fun and went to the bathroom to wipe. Then I washed my hands, got dressed, took a quick picture with my digital phone camera for posterity, and walked out the door. Don't take what karen says too seriously, she's probably got shit on her face right now. If you read this karen, sorry about bailing on you, call me, we'll do it again some time!"


Oh, my!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2006, 08:16:00 PM
I know from very good sources Karen does not post here anymore. She is VERY busy with work -- and her kids -- and doesn't have time to post in this disgusting forum.
Anyone who believes this shit is a scum eating baby eater.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
I met Karen's kid while I was at Carlbrook. He told me she was such a bitch, and other really gross things she does I will share more later.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on May 12, 2006, 10:01:00 AM
Shut up, I love my mom. I really love her.
Karen's Son
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 22, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
over ten and one-half thousand views and still going strong.  karen makes a strong and lasting impression.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2006, 09:01:00 AM
this thread will never die...  :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 24, 2006, 06:52:00 AM
:nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 24, 2006, 10:11:00 AM
Check out Karen's posts on StrugglingParents as "RandomWalk."  She's pretty pathetic.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 24, 2006, 10:49:00 AM
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RandomWalk
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Member # 3697

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Katfish writes: "LOL- that's the funniest sh-t I've seen in quite some time!!! ah ha ha ha ha! I think we all should just invade struggling teens- take these monthly polls and make our point on their forums- politely, of course... so as not to get the boot. WE have the stronger arguement"

ALSO, she and others have overloaded Lon's poll on bootcamps by repeated voting for anti-programs and ruined the true results.,

Any more questions?  


Yes, one more question, Karen.  Are you so obsessed with trolling program discussion sites that you can't even give it a rest while you're visiting your flunkie/junkie kid in Jersey?  Why are you holed up in a hotel room bashing Katfish when you're supposed to be seeing junior?

YOU ARE THE MOST PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A PARENT I'VE EVER SEEN, BAR NONE, KAREN.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 24, 2006, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.strugglingteens.org/cgi-bin/ ... u=00003697 (http://www.strugglingteens.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00003697)

Karen's lifetime of achievement illustrated at this link.  Pathetic loser.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 24, 2006, 11:02:00 AM
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RandomWalk
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Member # 3697

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I searched my son's room a number of times before he went to wilderness, and then after he was gone I did a thorough search- totally removing drawers, pulling everything out of the closet etc. I found some interesting things- including the top to my salt shaker ("I don't know where it went) which had been fashioned into a pot smoking apparatus. I also found a certain sexually explicit video starring my son's girlfriend at the time. Nothing like having child porn in your house.... (WAXING NOSTALGIC?  :lol: )
What I was referring to when I said the TBS wanted the kid to clean out the room was the more benign items- clothing representative of the "old" lifestyle, music that might be associated with past behaviors, pictures, etc. The TBS wanted the kids to go through the exercise of creating a room compliant with the way they live at the TBS. This meant no inappropriate pictures, language etc.  


Karen, you're dirty!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 24, 2006, 11:04:00 AM
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On 2006-05-10 12:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I met Karen's kid while I was at Carlbrook. He told me she was such a bitch, and other really gross things she does I will share more later."

Are you referring to Karen's watching her son's sex videos?  That is pretty gross.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 24, 2006, 02:30:00 PM
::blushing::  ::jawdrop::  ::puke::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on May 24, 2006, 09:04:00 PM
Priceless!  :rofl:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 25, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
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On 2006-05-24 08:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
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On 2006-05-10 12:32:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I met Karen's kid while I was at Carlbrook. He told me she was such a bitch, and other really gross things she does I will share more later."


Are you referring to Karen's watching her son's sex videos?  That is pretty gross."


Karen, why would you DO this???  Gross!!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 26, 2006, 07:00:00 AM
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On 2006-05-24 08:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

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RandomWalk

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Member # 3697



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I searched my son's room a number of times before he went to wilderness, and then after he was gone I did a thorough search- totally removing drawers, pulling everything out of the closet etc. I found some interesting things- including the top to my salt shaker ("I don't know where it went) which had been fashioned into a pot smoking apparatus. I also found a certain sexually explicit video starring my son's girlfriend at the time. Nothing like having child porn in your house.... (WAXING NOSTALGIC?  :eek:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on May 26, 2006, 12:46:00 PM
Child porn at Karens house!?   :silly:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 31, 2006, 11:19:00 AM
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On 2006-05-24 07:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

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RandomWalk

Member

Member # 3697



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Katfish writes: "LOL- that's the funniest sh-t I've seen in quite some time!!! ah ha ha ha ha! I think we all should just invade struggling teens- take these monthly polls and make our point on their forums- politely, of course... so as not to get the boot. WE have the stronger arguement"



ALSO, she and others have overloaded Lon's poll on bootcamps by repeated voting for anti-programs and ruined the true results.,



Any more questions?  




Yes, one more question, Karen.  Are you so obsessed with trolling program discussion sites that you can't even give it a rest while you're visiting your flunkie/junkie kid in Jersey?  Why are you holed up in a hotel room bashing Katfish when you're supposed to be seeing junior?



YOU ARE THE MOST PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A PARENT I'VE EVER SEEN, BAR NONE, KAREN."


Hi, Karen!  I see you're getting busy again!  Nice job in making yourself look REALLY STUPID.  I'm going to post links at StrugglingTeens to your posts here so your friends can see how mature and responsible you are.  Wait until they see who's been dispensing advice about their children.  How sad, Kare, that you're this deceitful! :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on May 31, 2006, 01:10:00 PM
Karen, why don't you troll this thread?  It seems like this is the one you'd be concerned with, not programs that you know nothing about like HLA and ASR.  Why not troll the thread that actuall has something to do with you?  Or do you only answer when you're called by "Dj" or "JulieTheGreat" or "Random Walk" or "Karen in Dallas" or "HStreet"?

You sure have a lot of aliases, Karen.  Why are you hiding?  Are you a little bit less-than-proud about acting like a child?  I would be if I were an "attorney" ( :lol: ) who loves to preach to people about what they should do with their kids and dispense all sorts of advice about parenting yet I acted so immaturely that I had to hide my identity.

Your kid must be very proud of you ( :lol:).  I just can't wait until he finds all your posts as all these different people.

Maybe you should think about deleting them before he and your friends/family/others get wind of how you act?  Just a thought.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on June 01, 2006, 11:01:00 AM
Why don't you answer, Karen?  Only interested in other people's business?  What about YOU?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on June 02, 2006, 07:48:00 AM
:idea:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2006, 01:35:00 AM
Do those parents on Struggling Teens actually listen to this POSTER?
  Hstreet, Random Walk...whichever name she is currently using?

"SHE" is a regular poster there on ST.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on June 03, 2006, 02:42:00 PM
No, everyone thinks she's a basic know-it-all blowhard.  Ever notice how nobody even responds to her up there on her soapbox?

 ::soapbox::

"I'm an attorney!  I know everything!  I'll sue you!"

 :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Curious & Willing to on June 25, 2006, 04:16:00 PM
I was just looking around and found this subject and all these postings.  Karen, you have told me to be careful on Fornits, but you  certainly have not.  Shouldn't you practice what you preach to others.  I don't think that my postings are causing any harm to anyone.  I think it is interesting reading from others on this site, sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't and sometimes I have questions.   :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2006, 11:25:00 PM
Leslie, have your reconsidered any of the "advice" you received from HSTREET (Karen, Random Walk)etc, etc.... about your placement of Gregg in that facility? Still think they were handing out the best advice?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Curious & Willing to on June 26, 2006, 06:22:00 PM
Nobody from ST gave me advice on the TBS I sent my son to.  I found it, and so did the EC I hired.  I get advice, suggestions and support from parents on ST, which I need and appreciate.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2006, 07:05:00 PM
You sure aren't listening to HStreet/Karen/Random Walk these days. She ain't happy with you. Those ST parents told you how to handle that boy, and you are not obeying.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2006, 10:18:00 PM
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On 2006-06-26 16:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You sure aren't listening to HStreet/Karen/Random Walk these days. She ain't happy with you. "


I don't think anyone is listening to HStreet/Random/Karen.  She thinks she's the authority on everything (inlcuding psychopharmacology and what medicines kids should be on.) I think people are getting tired of her bullshit.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2006, 06:26:07 PM
:P  :oops:  :evil:  :flame:  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on July 20, 2006, 01:47:21 PM
:o bump...
Title: ST Trolls Talking About Fornits... Karen Stirs the Pot
Post by: Troll Control on July 21, 2006, 03:37:42 PM
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I have had to change my ID on this forum several times due to harrassment by Fornits posters. I started as KareninDallas, then changed to HStreet and now RandomWalk. I have gotten some PMs asking me about it, so I am posting this publicly.
So-it's me, guys, and the reasons for the change had nothing to do with this forum, of course. Be careful....
Karen
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OMG ... they are a scary bunch. I too am constantly harassed. The thing is ... some of what they have to say bears some weight.... It's the delivery that needs some serious tune up.

Sorry.

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Someone is, once again, impersonating me on Fornits with the name Random Walk. In case anyone-especially parents new to this forum- wanders over there, I want to make it clear that these postings are not made by me. What you have is about 4 or 5 posters amusing each other. Have fun, kids.
Karen
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I would Change my name again.
How about "Purposeful Walker Who Used to be Random"
Then register this new name on the other site so no one else can have it.

Write to the owner of the site, see if that helps. That doesn't sound legal for someone to post impersonating you.


Take care,
Mose

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"Write to the owner of the site, see if that helps."

Surely you jest, Mose. Write to the mentally-challenged Ginger? I tried that after they posted my email address and AIM name all over their site, along with total filth. Anyone can register whatever user name they want. There is no accountability on that site. I just want to make sure the sane folks know it isn't me posting on Fornits. (P.S. Random Walk is a math/business school term- it doesn't refer to my exercise routine!  )
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Karen, I will privately e-mail you, as I don't want someone from fornits to take what I say here and post it over there, and believe me, they will.
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Karen ,
You're right.
It could even be the owner doing this nasty dirty work!!
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Someone just gave me the good news that the Fornits site is down while it is being "upgraded". We can only hope that they "upgrade" most of the contributors right off the site. Pray for a huge computer crash that eliminates all the site's data.
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As you reminded me it is the owner who is the problem.  
She sets the tone on that site and she is the one who allows and encourages nasty mean vindictive discourse on all subjects.

Have you ever exchanged private email with her?]
Oy vay! is all I can say.
She is a piece of work and completely unmoored to reality and being a good parent.

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Title: Even Though Parent Opposes Abortion, Karen Advocates It
Post by: Troll Control on July 21, 2006, 03:40:06 PM
Here's Karen trying to convince a parent to have her 17-year-old daughter get an ABORTION!  Karen, you are ONE SICK BITCH!!

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Is she willing to listen to reason and learn the truth about abortions without all the rhetoric surrounding it from religious groups, this way you can take her for abortion. The earlier the better.

I recently talked to my daughter about my abortions when I was a teenager and young adult, and it was an enlightening conversation for me since her and her boyfriend had all types of terrible misinformation and believed all the myths that are perpetuated. It allowed her to see it as a very mature decision and a medical procedure that is legal in our country!
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Mose- I agree. It is absolutely an option that should be considered unless the family's religious beliefs rule it out. That is sure the direction I would want to head in this situation.
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I am personally opposed to abortion. For a multitude of reasons ... which I don't care to debate here. I have remained very objective and asked her if she considered abortion and she flat out said "no way". She up to this point has embraced the pro-choice ideology. But, she said she can't terminate.

I am hoping she will consider an adoption plan. She will make an appointment tomorrow with an area agency that helps young girls in her situation. They will objectively present her options. My desire is that she make her own decision with lots of accurate information.

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Title: Karen Keeps on Lying About Trolling Fornits
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"Regarding Fornits, I just look at it now, and won't respond again."

Leslie- It was pointed out to me that you have registered a user name on Fornits and are posting regularly. Do as you wish, but you might want to consider your motives AND the reasons you can't seem to follow through on what you intend to do.
HOWEVER, I do NOT post on Fornits and would appreciate if you would leave my name out of your blathering over there.
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anyone from ST reading this, please be aware that Karen is a consummate liar.  she posts nasty, nasty things here all the time, only she doesn't have the onions to sign them.  she's just a cowardly, twisted little liar.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on July 22, 2006, 03:03:27 PM
That lady Karen has absolutely no shame.  She tells EVERYONE how to RUN THEIR LIFE.  What a loser.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on July 24, 2006, 11:32:25 AM
KarenInDallas, HStreet, Random Walk, whatever you're calling yourself these days, it is SICKENING to see you advise parents to force their kid (17 years old-over the age of consent AND none of your damn business) to get an ABORTION.

You are a really sick individual.  Why these morons even humor you by responding to your heinous and wrong "advice" is beyond me.  Someone ought to retroactively abort YOU, Karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on July 27, 2006, 11:05:49 AM
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Someone ought to retroactively abort YOU, Karen.


Ouch.  Maybe not a bad idea though!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2006, 04:00:54 AM
Old HStreet caught with more lies

She posts here...

loser......
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 02, 2006, 01:45:51 PM
that lady karen is one really twisted and sick person. :(
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2006, 05:20:37 PM
That is truly disgusting. Karen is known for posting all over the internet on various forums giving advice to people in subjects she knows nothing about. She is obviously a miserable and pathetic individual who is searching for more people she can drag down into oblivious depression and self loathing as she is. Karen, you have now advocated destroying a life, to people you know nothing about. Shame on you.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2006, 08:13:52 PM
"Mose- I agree. It is absolutely an option that should be considered unless the family's religious beliefs rule it out. That is sure the direction I would want to head in this situation."  Posted by RandomWalk.

How do you get an interpretation of "advising parents to force a kid to have an abortion" out of THAT?
A little bit of a stretch, don't you think?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 12:21:06 PM
no, it's not a stretch.  i read the entire conversation on ST and Karen did urge this parent to get her daughter to have an abortion even though the daughter was over the age of consent and it's none of her business anyway.

i think the point here is that Karen likes to insinuate herself into everyone else's life with her high and mighty directives about how to do quite literally everything.  she's a controlling cunt who feels the need to tell everyone else how to live their lives.  she's the prototypical program parent (despite the fact that her son was a failure at tbs and failed a year academically).

Karen, you're a stupid bitch with no business telling anyone else what to do.  your daughter, "reverend bitch" as you call her,  is a loser, your son is a loser and you can't even get or hold a job.  what gives a total and complete failure like yourself the right to tell others what to do?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 12:45:59 PM
That parent didn't come to Fornits for advice-  that parent asked for advice on ST.  Maybe, in addition to anger management classes, some reconcilliation on why you hate mothers in general and maybe finding something better to do with your time other than trolling ST,- you should mind your own business.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 12:49:19 PM
If you can't take the heat, get off the Internet.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 12:57:50 PM
My, my, my- aren't we angry and aren't we wrong.  Karen must have gotten you good.  A little jealous, are we? Of what? Of the fact that her kids are successful in all areas of their lives?  Or is it her ability to cut your ass down to size?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 12:58:58 PM
My, my, my- aren't we angry and aren't we wrong.  Karen must have gotten you good.  A little jealous, are we? Of what? Of the fact that her kids are successful in all areas of their lives?  Or is it her ability to cut your ass down to size?  Or is it because her son left  TBS early and you didn't?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
That parent didn't come to Fornits for advice-  that parent asked for advice on ST.  Maybe, in addition to anger management classes, some reconcilliation on why you hate mothers in general and maybe finding something better to do with your time other than trolling ST,- you should mind your own business.


anti-trolling advice from Karen as she trolls.  how perfect.

go get a JOB, loser.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:02:10 PM
Karen is such a loser, she is not welcome on any forum she goes to. She is a nihilist who gives advice to destroy lives, her purpose in life seems to bring shame and misery to all those around here. How sorely pathetic she is.  :(
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:03:01 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
no, it's not a stretch.  i read the entire conversation on ST and Karen did urge this parent to get her daughter to have an abortion even though the daughter was over the age of consent and it's none of her business anyway.

i think the point here is that Karen likes to insinuate herself into everyone else's life with her high and mighty directives about how to do quite literally everything.  she's a controlling cunt who feels the need to tell everyone else how to live their lives.  she's the prototypical program parent (despite the fact that her son was a failure at tbs and failed a year academically).

Karen, you're a stupid bitch with no business telling anyone else what to do.  your daughter, "reverend bitch" as you call her,  is a loser, your son is a loser and you can't even get or hold a job.  what gives a total and complete failure like yourself the right to tell others what to do?


I've read all the horrible names she calls her kids, and the casualness and humor she finds in such horrid situations. I have one word, sadistic.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 01:04:17 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
My, my, my- aren't we angry and aren't we wrong.  Karen must have gotten you good.  A little jealous, are we? Of what? Of the fact that her kids are successful in all areas of their lives?  Or is it her ability to cut your ass down to size?  Or is it because her son left  TBS early and you didn't?


Uh, you are Karen, Karen.  Only a self-important unemployed half-wit like yourself would be stupid and pompous enough to try to pass yourself off as someone else while continously posting from the same location.  

Yeah, your son left TBS early so he could go repeat wilderness and the eleventh grade, or did you forget you posted that, Karen?  Who could be jealous of that?  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:04:56 PM
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Mose- I agree. It is absolutely an option that should be considered unless the family's religious beliefs rule it out. That is sure the direction I would want to head in this situation.


How righteous of you Karen.  :roll: ::noway::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
no, it's not a stretch.  i read the entire conversation on ST and Karen did urge this parent to get her daughter to have an abortion even though the daughter was over the age of consent and it's none of her business anyway.

i think the point here is that Karen likes to insinuate herself into everyone else's life with her high and mighty directives about how to do quite literally everything.  she's a controlling cunt who feels the need to tell everyone else how to live their lives.  she's the prototypical program parent (despite the fact that her son was a failure at tbs and failed a year academically).

Karen, you're a stupid bitch with no business telling anyone else what to do.  your daughter, "reverend bitch" as you call her,  is a loser, your son is a loser and you can't even get or hold a job.  what gives a total and complete failure like yourself the right to tell others what to do?

I've read all the horrible names she calls her kids, and the casualness and humor she finds in such horrid situations. I have one word, sadistic.


BINGO!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
My, my, my- aren't we angry and aren't we wrong.  Karen must have gotten you good.  A little jealous, are we? Of what? Of the fact that her kids are successful in all areas of their lives?  Or is it her ability to cut your ass down to size?  Or is it because her son left  TBS early and you didn't?

Uh, you are Karen, Karen.  Only a self-important unemployed half-wit like yourself would be stupid and pompous enough to try to pass yourself off as someone else while continously posting from the same location.  

Yeah, your son left TBS early so he could go repeat wilderness and the eleventh grade, or did you forget you posted that, Karen?  Who could be jealous of that?  :lol:


 :oops:  :D  :P
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:09:15 PM
"Mose- I agree. It is absolutely an option that should be considered unless the family's religious beliefs rule it out. That is sure the direction I would want to head in this situation." Posted by RandomWalk.

This is Karen's only post on the whole thread. Doesn't sound quite like you are presenting it.  Have a little trouble with interpreting words?  

We do have our little tighty whities in a wad, don't we?
You probably should go back to the sandbox, little fellow.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 01:12:30 PM
Oopsie!  Someone forgot that she pasted her and her kids' entire private, personal lives on the internet while unemployed sitting around watching Dr. Phil.

BTW, Karen, are you still continuously viewing that homemade porn tape of your son corn-holing his sweetie?  Just curious.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
"Mose- I agree. It is absolutely an option that should be considered unless the family's religious beliefs rule it out. That is sure the direction I would want to head in this situation." Posted by RandomWalk.

This is Karen's only post on the whole thread. Doesn't sound quite like you are presenting it.  Have a little trouble with interpreting words?  

We do have our little tighty whities in a wad, don't we?
You probably should go back to the sandbox, little fellow.


My, referring to yourself in the third person while fantasizing about wadded juvenile drawers...you are WEIRD, Karen.  REALLY weird! :o
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:21:46 PM
Karen is a psycho. Who wants to know where karen works?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:22:58 PM
Nope, little fella, I'm not Karen.  
I do remember from ST that her son is a superstar student who is going to an Ivy League college, and certainly didn't fail 11th grade. Her daughter is also a superstar- college senior at one of the top schools in the country.  
You must really feel insecure. Do you not have a mommy?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:23:44 PM
Well, this should be fun. Stick around Karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:40:58 PM
hey karen, remember when you posted this over at the college confidential boards under the username KareninDallas?

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I went to large state U (Indiana), which was out of state for me. I chose it because I was a music major. Well, turned out the music school was too good for MY level of talent! I wound up majoring in business and going to a top law school (Chicago). In retrospect, I did not have enough "like minded peers" at Indiana. I enjoyed many things about my years there, but academically I would have been happier and more challenged at a smaller university or LAC. I did develop a passion for college basketball, which, believe it or not, has served me very well in the business world. (Lesson to all you smart kids out there- don't underestimate things like that.)
My problem is as I tour colleges with kid #2, I love them all. I was the same way with kid #1. All in all, Stanford would be my dream school because of the top academics, athletics, climate and size of the school. I couldn't have gotten in back then, of course.
Karen

you should really be careful these days about the kind of information you release on the internet, you never know when it might come back around and you might not have wanted the entire world populace to know everything about you. its a lesson learned the hard way unfortunately.

so lets start off with a little nugget of information that should excite all you googlers and researchers out htere. what if I told you that karens middle name was "SUE". Ironic isnt it? Youd think I am lying, a bitchy lawyer with the middle name SUE, what are the chances.

Do a  little research , see what you come up with.

Curious how much karen brought home in 2002? Me too...

Karen S. Austin                        
2002  
Salary                  $ 151,223      
Bonus                  $  86,650                
Stock                   $  25,000            
Other                   $   9,253

Senior Vice President and  2001        
Salary                  $  60,000    
Bonus                  $   2,307                  
Stock                   $   5,000

source:http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/0000950134-03-008230/Section3.asp

not bad karen, not bad at all. no wonder you can pay someone else to raise your kids for you when things dont work out as you planned.

now before you start saying.. how do you know thats the same karen, there could be another corporate lawyer in dallas with the same name... if only she hadn't told her life story already under the moniker karenindallas we might believe her.

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Karen S. Austin joined the Company in July 2001 as Vice President and
General Counsel. Ms. Austin was promoted to Senior Vice President and General
Counsel in July 2002. From February 1991 until February 2001 Ms. Austin was
employed by Overhead Door Corporation as Assistant General Counsel. Ms. Austin
received her B.S. in Business from Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana
and her Doctor of Law degree from the University of Chicago in Chicago,
Illinois.

source http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/ ... ction3.asp (http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/0000950134-03-008230/Section3.asp)

well there ya go. a highly trained lawyer who cannot even troll the internet without being found out. your profile keeps getting more and more detailed karen, wanna post some more information for us? :lol:

Member: KarenInDallas
Real Name: Karen Sue Austin
Location: Dallas, TX
Birth Date: September 12, 1952 (53)
Undergrad: Indiana University
Postgrad: University of Chicago
Occupation:  Corporate Attorney
Recent Employer: Overhead Door Corporation
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 01:46:09 PM
WOW!  That's AWESOME!  Holy canoli, you've done some fine work there!

Now, Karen, what were you saying?  Something about your "superstar" kid?  Only you use that term, BTW, Karen.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 01:47:57 PM
No work necessary! Karen's big mouth did it all for us. :lol:

This is for you Karen...

(http://http://www.owned.com/Owned_Pictures/checkersowned.jpg)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 01:56:05 PM
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Nope, little fella, I'm not Karen.  
I do remember from ST that her son is a superstar student who is going to an Ivy League college, and certainly didn't fail 11th grade. Her daughter is also a superstar- college senior at one of the top schools in the country.  
You must really feel insecure. Do you not have a mommy?

How does this jive with your previous posts, Karen?  Not too well I'm afraid.  I'd think a LAWYER like yourself  :lol:  would have actually read the transcripts of your previous testimony before telling a whopper like this to a jury of your peers.  Guess not.

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My son actually had to drop back and do another junior year to enter Blair.

[Just curious, isn't "entering Blair" what he was doing on that kiddie porn tape you like to watch so much?  Or was Blair not her name? :lol:  :lol:  :lol: ]

He spent a year in a very structured boarding school with good academics and a strong support system and was admitted to a top prep boarding school in the NE where he is doing a 2nd junior year and will do a senior year.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 02:00:34 PM
Oh man, this is priceless!!!! :rofl:  :rofl:

That's the only way she measures ANY success at all.  What college you did or did not get into.  :roll:  Those poor kids of hers.  I would fucking KILL my mom if she plastered my shit all over the internet.  My kids would kill ME if I did that.  Especially after she sent them to a TBS.  Who wants anyone to know that kind of shit?  I don't want ANYone knowing I was sent to one of those places.

Keep up the good work, whoever you are!!!!! :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 02:12:57 PM
Hello. I am not Karen.  It appears your EDGAR online info is quite old.  You seem quite impressed with your research abilities.  
I am not.  You seem quite uneducated and ignorant.  My sympathies.
Have a nice day.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 02:18:43 PM
Yes, that info might be old, but we both know the most important fact released today was your oh so ironic middle name.  :rofl: If one person can produce this information in thirty minutes, think of what an infinite amount of people can do with it over an infinite period of time. Don't you just love the information age? I do.  :P
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 02:20:13 PM
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Hello. I am not Karen.  It appears your EDGAR online info is quite old.  You seem quite impressed with your research abilities.  
I am not.  You seem quite uneducated and ignorant.  My sympathies.
Have a nice day.


Classic Karen here.  Man, she's FUMING over this.  Awesome!

Yes, Karen, we know the EDGAR information is somewhat out of date.  Subsequent to the data provided above, you were shit-canned and now you sit around the house unemployed spewing the details of your children's lives all over the internet. :cry:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 02:22:43 PM
I have a buddy at ISU, I wonder if he can look at the old yearbooks and find us a pic?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 02:24:25 PM
This:

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"Hello. I am not Karen."


Means this:

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"Hello. I am Karen."


I'm amazed that someone as dumb as Karen actually went to any school at all.  On the flip side, I'm not amazed that this dummy screwed her kids up so bad and then sent them away and blamed them for it all over the 'net.

She's a crazy Orwellian quack-speaking web-footed waddler.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
I have a buddy at ISU, I wonder if he can look at the old yearbooks and find us a pic?


Please, proceed.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 03:00:50 PM
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Techdad- many of our kids came out of wilderness with the same attitude your son has. My son also wanted to go back and work at the program. However, two months of sobriety or treatment is usually not enough. What TBS gets them is more time to mature and undergo intense therapy with a group of peers who will hold them accountable and call them on their "bullshit". If you can accomplish this within your family and community, go for it, but it would be VERY unusual. Keep us posted since I suspect you may be in for a rough ride.
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Here's the popous ass Karen-Sue pontificating again.  She seems not to understand that the VAST MAJORITY of people manage to raise their kids just fine and deal with their problems in their own home or community.

See how she's condescending toward this guy saying basically "if I couldn't do it, there's no way you can."

What an arrogant, condescending bitch.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 03:04:04 PM
BTW, Karen-Sue, what the heck were you doing at the Extended Stay Hotel in Franklin, Tennessee?  Getting a little action on the road? :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 03:08:00 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Hello. I am not Karen.  It appears your EDGAR online info is quite old.  You seem quite impressed with your research abilities.  
I am not.  You seem quite uneducated and ignorant.  My sympathies.
Have a nice day.


hey karen, how come you're calling this person "uneducated" when your vocabulary is so small that you use the word "quite" three times in a such a short statement?

you don't seem too smart at all...   :idea:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 03:10:32 PM
Karen seems to have a inferior complex, I notice she refers to other posters as 'small' and 'without a mommy'. She is saying these things about herself in reality, she is a sick individual. Funny thing is this page will be indexed in google eventually.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 03:16:05 PM
This is a great website for background checks.

https://www.intelius.com/background-verification.html (https://www.intelius.com/background-verification.html)

For fifty bucks you can get the complete workup.  :wink:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 03:16:09 PM
Here's the terms of Karen's firing:


Exhibit 10.10




THIS AGREEMENT, made and entered into this 19th day of January, 2004 by and
between American Building Control, Inc., a Delaware Corporation, and Ultrak
Operating, L.P. (now known as MDI Operating, L.P., a Texas limited partnership),
(collectively hereinafter referred to as "ABCX"), and Karen S. Austin, an
individual (hereinafter referred to as "Ms. Austin").


WHEREAS, Ms. Austin had been employed by ABCX in various positions, the latest
being as Senior Vice President, and General Counsel, pursuant to the terms of
that certain Employment Agreement between her and American Building Control,
Inc. and MDI Operating, L.P. dated as of July 1, 2002 (the "Employment
Agreement").


WHEREAS, pursuant to that certain Release Agreement agreed to and accepted by
Ms. Austin dated June 24, 2003, ABCX and Ms. Austin reached a final
understanding related to the separation of Ms. Austin from ABCX, including the
agreement on the part of ABCX to make the Separation Payments to Ms. Austin as
set forth therein.


WHEREAS, ABCX has paid to Ms. Austin and Ms. Austin has received all amounts
owed to her up to the date of this Agreement arising out of or as a result of
her employment with ABCX or her separation of employment.


WHEREAS, it is deemed advisable by the parties that any continuing relationship
between Ms. Austin and ABCX based on her past employment, her Employment
Agreement, her Release Agreement, her separation of employment, or any other
matter based on or arising out of her past employment relationship with ABCX, be
terminated effective as of January 20, 2004 and that a final adjustment be made
of all matters between Ms. Austin and ABCX with respect to all past, present and
future rights and obligations which now exist or may arise pursuant to Ms.
Austin's past employment by ABCX; and


WHEREAS, the parties are willing to waive unconditionally any past, present and
future claims against the other.


NOW, THEREFORE, the parties hereto mutually agree as follows:


1.  Ms. Austin will be paid the sum of U.S. $150,000.00, subject to each of the
parties signing duplicate originals of this Agreement. This amount is a net
amount and reflects the deduction by ABCX of standard withholdings and other
authorized deductions.


The above sum represents all amounts to be paid by ABCX to Ms. Austin as
"severance pay", separation allowance, retention bonuses, change of control or
alleged change of control payments, transaction bonuses, or other like
compensations which may be claimed by Ms. Austin arising out of her employment
or due to the termination of her employment with ABCX. The parties agree that
any and all additional benefits or entitlements made available to Ms. Austin by
or because of ABCX shall also be extinguished as of the date of this Agreement,
such as, but not limited to, any cell phone or automobile allowance or lease
arrangement.


Having elected to receive lump sum severance pay, Ms. Austin will not be
eligible to participate in the ABCX Medical Plan unless Ms. Austin elects COBRA
coverage, in which case Ms. Austin will


be responsible for the full cost of this coverage (normal employee and company
contribution.) If Ms. Austin decides to elect COBRA coverage, she may contact
the ABCX Human Resources Department for details on how to make such election.


If applicable, Ms. Austin's additional company provided insurance, such as life
insurance, will be terminable by ABCX on execution of this Agreement by the
parties.


2. For and in consideration of the sums paid by ABCX to Ms. Austin, as set forth
in paragraph 1 above, Ms. Austin, in full satisfaction of any and all claims of
whatever nature, hereby has remised, released and forever discharged and by
these presence does for herself, and her heirs, executors, and administrators
and assigns, release and forever discharge ABCX, and its successors and assigns,
of and from all manner of actions, suits, debts, dues, sums of money, accounts,
reckoning, covenants, contracts, agreements, promises, claims and awards
whatsoever, in law or in equity which against ABCX, Ms. Austin ever had, now has
or which she or her heirs, executors or administrators, hereafter can, shall or
may have for, upon or by reason of any matter, cause or thing whatsoever from
the beginning of the employment relationship with ABCX.


3. ABCX hereby has remised, released and forever discharged and by these
presence does for itself, and its assigns, release and forever discharge Ms.
Austin, and her successors and assigns, of and from all manner of actions,
suits, debts, dues, sums of money, accounts, reckoning, covenants, contracts,
agreements, promises, claims and awards whatsoever, in law or in equity which
against Ms. Austin, ABCX ever had, now has or which it or its assigns, hereafter
can, shall or may have for, upon or by reason of any matter, cause or thing
whatsoever from the beginning of the employment relationship with ABCX.


4. Each of the parties represents and agrees that they will not in the future
discuss with any third party (other than their representing attorney) any of the
details involved in this Agreement. Each agrees to keep confidential, and not to
disclose to anyone, except to the extent required by law or compulsory process,
any of the terms or conditions, including the dollar amounts paid pursuant to
this Agreement. This paragraph shall not prohibit either party from discussing
or disclosing the consideration provided herein with their immediate family (in
the case of Ms. Austin), accountant(s), financial advisor(s), or the Internal
Revenue Service or other state or federal taxing authority.


5. Each of the parties agree that they will not make any disparaging remarks, or
otherwise take any action that could reasonably be anticipated to cause material
damage to the reputation and goodwill of, or otherwise negatively reflect upon
the other.


6. The parties declare that each has carefully read this Agreement, that each
has reviewed its terms in conjunction with counsel, and that each agrees to the
terms and provisions of the Agreement for the purpose of making a full and final
adjustment and resolution of the matters contained herein.


7. Each party signing this Agreement acknowledges that this agreement completely
and adequately resolves all matters between the parties arising out of Ms.
Austin's employment by ABCX or Ms. Austin's separation of employment.


8. This Agreement constitutes and contains the entire Agreement and
understanding between the Parties with respect to the subject matter hereof.


9. This Agreement is made and entered into in the State of Texas and shall in
all respects be interpreted, enforced and governed by the laws of the State of
Texas.


10. Any waiver, alteration or modification of any of the provisions of this
Agreement shall not be valid unless in writing and signed by ABCX and Ms.
Austin.


11. Should Ms. Austin in any manner, whether directly or indirectly, contest or
challenge this Agreement or any of its provisions, or assert any action or cause
of action against ABCX, Ms. Austin agrees to immediately return all
consideration paid pursuant to this Agreement, and Ms. Austin further agrees to
pay ABCX for any and all attorneys' fees incurred or expended by ABCX to enforce
this Agreement or any of its provisions, or defend any action or cause of action
against ABCX brought by Ms. Austin, her agents, representatives or assigns.


12. Should any provision of this Agreement be held invalid or unenforceable,
such provision shall be ineffective to the extent of such invalidity or
unenforceability, without invalidating the remainder of such provision or the
remaining portions of this Agreement.


EACH PARTY SIGNING THIS AGREEMENT STIPULATES THAT THIS AGREEMENT COMPLETELY AND
ADEQUATELY RESOLVES ALL MATTERS BETWEEN THE PARTIES ARISING OUT OF MS. AUSTIN'S
EMPLOYMENT BY ABCX OR MS. AUSTIN'S SEPARATION THEREFROM.


IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties have duly executed this Agreement as of the day
and year first above written.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Karen S. Austin




AMERICAN BUILDING CONTROL, INC.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

By    Danny Mills:

Its:  President and Chief Executive Officer



MDI OPERATING, L.P.


By:   American Building Control L.P., Inc.
Its:  General Partner


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

By:   Chris Sharng

Its:  Senior Vice President
__________________________________________________


Looks like she was canned and sued her employer for a severance.  She got one year's salary and a fat size 12 boot up her ass.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 03:20:11 PM
::kiss::  ::cheers::  8)  :lol:  :P

 :oops: Where'd ya go, Karen? Aren't you going to threaten to "sue" anybody yet :question:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 03:25:20 PM
she's sitting on the couch shaking and angry over how some "trobled teens" outed her entire life on the board (due to her own stupidity of posting her entire life story on various message boards).  

she's probably dealing with hotflashes as well. :lol:  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 03, 2006, 03:27:34 PM
11678 views and climbing...

karen-sue is a very popular gal. :wave:  :tup:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 03:38:21 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
hey karen, remember when you posted this over at the college confidential boards under the username KareninDallas?

Quote
I went to large state U (Indiana), which was out of state for me. I chose it because I was a music major. Well, turned out the music school was too good for MY level of talent! I wound up majoring in business and going to a top law school (Chicago). In retrospect, I did not have enough "like minded peers" at Indiana. I enjoyed many things about my years there, but academically I would have been happier and more challenged at a smaller university or LAC. I did develop a passion for college basketball, which, believe it or not, has served me very well in the business world. (Lesson to all you smart kids out there- don't underestimate things like that.)
My problem is as I tour colleges with kid #2, I love them all. I was the same way with kid #1. All in all, Stanford would be my dream school because of the top academics, athletics, climate and size of the school. I couldn't have gotten in back then, of course.
Karen

you should really be careful these days about the kind of information you release on the internet, you never know when it might come back around and you might not have wanted the entire world populace to know everything about you. its a lesson learned the hard way unfortunately.

so lets start off with a little nugget of information that should excite all you googlers and researchers out htere. what if I told you that karens middle name was "SUE". Ironic isnt it? Youd think I am lying, a bitchy lawyer with the middle name SUE, what are the chances.

Do a  little research , see what you come up with.

Curious how much karen brought home in 2002? Me too...

Karen S. Austin                        
2002  
Salary                  $ 151,223      
Bonus                  $  86,650                
Stock                   $  25,000            
Other                   $   9,253

Senior Vice President and  2001        
Salary                  $  60,000    
Bonus                  $   2,307                  
Stock                   $   5,000

source:http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/0000950134-03-008230/Section3.asp

not bad karen, not bad at all. no wonder you can pay someone else to raise your kids for you when things dont work out as you planned.

now before you start saying.. how do you know thats the same karen, there could be another corporate lawyer in dallas with the same name... if only she hadn't told her life story already under the moniker karenindallas we might believe her.

Quote
Karen S. Austin joined the Company in July 2001 as Vice President and
General Counsel. Ms. Austin was promoted to Senior Vice President and General
Counsel in July 2002. From February 1991 until February 2001 Ms. Austin was
employed by Overhead Door Corporation as Assistant General Counsel. Ms. Austin
received her B.S. in Business from Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana
and her Doctor of Law degree from the University of Chicago in Chicago,
Illinois.
source http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/ ... ction3.asp (http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/0000950134-03-008230/Section3.asp)

well there ya go. a highly trained lawyer who cannot even troll the internet without being found out. your profile keeps getting more and more detailed karen, wanna post some more information for us? :lol:

Member: KarenInDallas
Real Name: Karen Sue Austin
Location: Dallas, TX
Birth Date: September 12, 1952 (53)
Undergrad: Indiana University
Postgrad: University of Chicago
Occupation:  Corporate Attorney
Recent Employer: Overhead Door Corporation


 ::bump::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
Rock on with your bad self!!  This is fucking great!! :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Can't you just see her sitting there, wringing her pasty little hands???? :flame:  ::bwahaha::  ::bwahaha2::  ::bigsmilebounce::  :nworthy:  ::cheers::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 05:00:58 PM
I suspect she pays no attention to this forum and has no idea you are having so much fun posting old information about her.  Why should she care even if she did know?  Not like it does any harm.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 05:07:30 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
I suspect she pays no attention to this forum and has no idea you are having so much fun posting old information about her.  

Uh huh.  Riiiiiiiiiight. :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:


Quote
Why should she care even if she did know?


She (you) cares alright.  It pisses her (you) right the fuck off! :flame:  :flame:  ::bwahaha::  ::bigsmilebounce::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 05:19:48 PM
It certainly begs the question, is Karen a masochist?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 11:12:43 PM
::bump::  ::read::  ::cheers::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 04, 2006, 08:10:27 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
It certainly begs the question, is Karen a masochist?


It would seem so.  She's lost every time she's played the game here.  She's been identified, busted, outed, and can't even post anonymously anymore without being caught.

HOWEVER...  That doesn't seem to stop her.  She's obsessed with "one-upmanship" to the point where she just keeps coming back for another beating.

What I do find interesting and useful though is that she consistently bashes this board at ST and talks about how everyone here is malicious and evil, but she has posted so much vile garbage that her friends at ST can now see what a two-faced, unprincipled liar and moron that she actually is.  her pretentiousness and duplicity have come full circle and bit her in her ample backside.

Well, Karen, thanks for the entertainment.  Can't wait 'til your next installment of stupidity and arrogance.  Come with it, Karen.  Bring it.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 04, 2006, 10:25:55 AM
This is the one of the greatest threads ever.  The only ones that even come close are "Say hello to our struggling teens troll" and the Anne Hall threads.

I think it's hilarious that Karen came in here looking for blood, acting like an asshole, power-tripping, threatening to sue, etc and now she's straight-up CANNON FODDER!

 ::bwahaha::  ::cheers::  :nworthy:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 04, 2006, 10:27:24 AM
and the best part is that now whenever someone googles karen they'll find her complete record of abject stupidity.  priceless.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2006, 10:32:50 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Here's the terms of Karen's firing:...................


.


 ::bwahaha::    Karen's "Exit Plan".   :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2006, 11:41:35 AM
Looks to me like she wasn't fired. If you read the Edgar docs and the company reports, the management team got change of control buyouts with long severances and then the company lump summed a few of them out the next year. Pretty good deal.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 04, 2006, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Looks to me like she wasn't fired. If you read the Edgar docs and the company reports, the management team got change of control buyouts with long severances and then the company lump summed a few of them out the next year. Pretty good deal.


looks to me like karen is back trying to defend herself over her appalling record of stupid, insentive, hateful and hurtful remarks hurled at children who were abused in emotional growth lockups.

i can see why you only choose to try to defend your employment record, karen: your personal record is a disaster.

nice try though, karen.  you're still a loser.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2006, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
hey karen, remember when you posted this over at the college confidential boards under the username KareninDallas?

Quote
I went to large state U (Indiana), which was out of state for me. I chose it because I was a music major. Well, turned out the music school was too good for MY level of talent! I wound up majoring in business and going to a top law school (Chicago). In retrospect, I did not have enough "like minded peers" at Indiana. I enjoyed many things about my years there, but academically I would have been happier and more challenged at a smaller university or LAC. I did develop a passion for college basketball, which, believe it or not, has served me very well in the business world. (Lesson to all you smart kids out there- don't underestimate things like that.)
My problem is as I tour colleges with kid #2, I love them all. I was the same way with kid #1. All in all, Stanford would be my dream school because of the top academics, athletics, climate and size of the school. I couldn't have gotten in back then, of course.
Karen

you should really be careful these days about the kind of information you release on the internet, you never know when it might come back around and you might not have wanted the entire world populace to know everything about you. its a lesson learned the hard way unfortunately.

so lets start off with a little nugget of information that should excite all you googlers and researchers out htere. what if I told you that karens middle name was "SUE". Ironic isnt it? Youd think I am lying, a bitchy lawyer with the middle name SUE, what are the chances.

Do a  little research , see what you come up with.

Curious how much karen brought home in 2002? Me too...

Karen S. Austin                        
2002  
Salary                  $ 151,223      
Bonus                  $  86,650                
Stock                   $  25,000            
Other                   $   9,253

Senior Vice President and  2001        
Salary                  $  60,000    
Bonus                  $   2,307                  
Stock                   $   5,000

source:http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/0000950134-03-008230/Section3.asp

not bad karen, not bad at all. no wonder you can pay someone else to raise your kids for you when things dont work out as you planned.

now before you start saying.. how do you know thats the same karen, there could be another corporate lawyer in dallas with the same name... if only she hadn't told her life story already under the moniker karenindallas we might believe her.

Quote
Karen S. Austin joined the Company in July 2001 as Vice President and
General Counsel. Ms. Austin was promoted to Senior Vice President and General
Counsel in July 2002. From February 1991 until February 2001 Ms. Austin was
employed by Overhead Door Corporation as Assistant General Counsel. Ms. Austin
received her B.S. in Business from Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana
and her Doctor of Law degree from the University of Chicago in Chicago,
Illinois.
source http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/ ... ction3.asp (http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/0000950134-03-008230/Section3.asp)

well there ya go. a highly trained lawyer who cannot even troll the internet without being found out. your profile keeps getting more and more detailed karen, wanna post some more information for us? :lol:

Member: KarenInDallas
Real Name: Karen Sue Austin
Location: Dallas, TX
Birth Date: September 12, 1952 (53)
Undergrad: Indiana University
Postgrad: University of Chicago
Occupation:  Corporate Attorney
Recent Employer: Overhead Door Corporation


 ::bigmouth::  ::bwahaha::  ::blushing::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2006, 03:45:07 PM
Whats wrong karen you dont want to play anymore?  :rofl:

There is MUCH more to come, stay tuned!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2006, 04:41:04 PM
You're still not really worth me fini
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2006, 05:31:55 PM
Karen is "married" to a sixty one year old man named Kenneth Young. His current address is in California, and she never took his name and the kids use a hyphon with both names, who knows how married they really are. Karen will have to fill us in. He designs computer programs for marathon runners and is a programming consultant. They run marathons together.  Kenneth was married to a marathon runner before Karen named Jennifer who had two kids before he divorced her. Karen is a step-parent to her son (28). I believe she is the biological mother of her daughter (21). Not sure about the young son (18).
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2006, 05:32:56 PM
Karen is "married" to a sixty one year old man named Kenneth Young. His current address is in California, and she never took his name and the kids use a hyphon with both names, who knows how married they really are. Karen will have to fill us in. He designs computer programs for marathon runners and is a programming consultant. They run marathons together. Kenneth was married to a marathon runner before Karen named Jennifer who had two kids before he divorced her. Karen is a step-parent to her son (28 ). I believe she is the biological mother of her daughter (21). Not sure about the young son (18 ).
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2006, 05:59:53 PM
I thought Ken was teaching at Uni of Texas at Austin in the ecology department, Karen you will have to clear this up for us.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2006, 03:14:36 PM
Huh- the mysterious karen defender (karen) suddenly dissappeared, what a shock!  :P
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 06, 2006, 08:43:34 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Karen is "married" to a sixty one year old man named Kenneth Young. His current address is in California, and she never took his name and the kids use a hyphon with both names, who knows how married they really are. Karen will have to fill us in. He designs computer programs for marathon runners and is a programming consultant. They run marathons together. Kenneth was married to a marathon runner before Karen named Jennifer who had two kids before he divorced her. Karen is a step-parent to her son (28 ). I believe she is the biological mother of her daughter (21). Not sure about the young son (18 ).


This certainly is a "strange arrangement" Karen.  Are you Ken's "beard"?  Sounds like it.  You stick around for the money and support because you can't hold a job and he stays "married" to you so he can say "I'm not gay!  I'm married!"  HOW CONVENIENT for both of you, Karen.

Maybe this is whyyour kids have had so much difficulty growning up.  Power-hungry, control freak mom and gay dad. Hmmm....

Karen, why don't you explain this strange deal?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2006, 05:39:04 PM
:D  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 07, 2006, 08:13:07 AM
Quote
Karen, why don't you explain this strange deal?


Yes, Karen.  You're very quick to try to explain away the fact that you were fired from your job, but you won't address this very, very strange arrangement with your hubby?

C'mon, Karen, tell us what's up.  Why so quiet all of a sudden???
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2006, 08:48:01 AM
Really though, who could stay married to Karen? I've seen a picture of her and she ain't nothing to write home about.
Title: Karen Tries Damage Control
Post by: Troll Control on August 07, 2006, 09:49:57 AM
RandomWalk
Member
Member # 3697

  posted August 06, 2006 07:34 AM                        
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For those of you who have sent me emails and PMs alerting me to the renewed interest in me on Fornits..... How exciting to learn that my husband is gay and lives in California. I'm sure my old severance agreement makes thrilling reading. Thanks to my defenders, but don't waste the effort. I don't.

Fornits is the Teen Help version of The National Enquirer! How sad for those people that this is their life. Ginger must be SO proud of her site.

Do rest assured that the family of my son's recently deceased classmate has no awareness of Fornits- or even StrugglingTeens. No information has been shared online that was not publicly disclosed by the family- in the interest of openness and helping others.
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Leslie6
Member
Member # 4834

  posted August 06, 2006 01:08 PM                        
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So sorry to hear you are still having problems with those "freaks"! As I promised to you and others, I have stopped posting on their site, and won't ever again. I haven't even checked to see what they are saying, until I read your message above, and frankly can't find where they are posting about you again. Take care and good luck!
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__________________________________________________

Give it a rest, Karen.  Nobody "alerted" you to this thread and its contents.  You post here almost daily defending yourself so don't try to shrug it off like you didn't know about it to your ST buddies - that dog don't hunt.

So you're surprised that your husband is gay and living in California?  Or are you just surprised that everyone knows it?  I'd bet the latter...
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 07, 2006, 10:08:47 AM
How are things in Jersey, Karen?  Junior still flunking?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 07, 2006, 01:12:14 PM
ok, karen.  we know you've read this thread at least ten times this morning.  compulsively reading isn't going to help.  it's time to respond.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2006, 06:38:36 PM
now, thats funny!  :D

Hey Karen --- up yours!   ::both::

::cheers::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2006, 06:39:25 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
hey karen, remember when you posted this over at the college confidential boards under the username KareninDallas?

Quote
I went to large state U (Indiana), which was out of state for me. I chose it because I was a music major. Well, turned out the music school was too good for MY level of talent! I wound up majoring in business and going to a top law school (Chicago). In retrospect, I did not have enough "like minded peers" at Indiana. I enjoyed many things about my years there, but academically I would have been happier and more challenged at a smaller university or LAC. I did develop a passion for college basketball, which, believe it or not, has served me very well in the business world. (Lesson to all you smart kids out there- don't underestimate things like that.)
My problem is as I tour colleges with kid #2, I love them all. I was the same way with kid #1. All in all, Stanford would be my dream school because of the top academics, athletics, climate and size of the school. I couldn't have gotten in back then, of course.
Karen

you should really be careful these days about the kind of information you release on the internet, you never know when it might come back around and you might not have wanted the entire world populace to know everything about you. its a lesson learned the hard way unfortunately.

so lets start off with a little nugget of information that should excite all you googlers and researchers out htere. what if I told you that karens middle name was "SUE". Ironic isnt it? Youd think I am lying, a bitchy lawyer with the middle name SUE, what are the chances.

Do a  little research , see what you come up with.

Curious how much karen brought home in 2002? Me too...

Karen S. Austin                        
2002  
Salary                  $ 151,223      
Bonus                  $  86,650                
Stock                   $  25,000            
Other                   $   9,253

Senior Vice President and  2001        
Salary                  $  60,000    
Bonus                  $   2,307                  
Stock                   $   5,000

source:http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/0000950134-03-008230/Section3.asp

not bad karen, not bad at all. no wonder you can pay someone else to raise your kids for you when things dont work out as you planned.

now before you start saying.. how do you know thats the same karen, there could be another corporate lawyer in dallas with the same name... if only she hadn't told her life story already under the moniker karenindallas we might believe her.

Quote
Karen S. Austin joined the Company in July 2001 as Vice President and
General Counsel. Ms. Austin was promoted to Senior Vice President and General
Counsel in July 2002. From February 1991 until February 2001 Ms. Austin was
employed by Overhead Door Corporation as Assistant General Counsel. Ms. Austin
received her B.S. in Business from Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana
and her Doctor of Law degree from the University of Chicago in Chicago,
Illinois.
source http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/ ... ction3.asp (http://sec.edgar-online.com/2003/05/15/0000950134-03-008230/Section3.asp)

well there ya go. a highly trained lawyer who cannot even troll the internet without being found out. your profile keeps getting more and more detailed karen, wanna post some more information for us? :lol:

Member: KarenInDallas
Real Name: Karen Sue Austin
Location: Dallas, TX
Birth Date: September 12, 1952 (53)
Undergrad: Indiana University
Postgrad: University of Chicago
Occupation:  Corporate Attorney
Recent Employer: Overhead Door Corporation

 ::bigmouth::  ::bwahaha::  ::blushing::

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Karen Tries Damage Control
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2006, 06:51:16 PM
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Fornits is the Teen Help version of The National Enquirer! How sad for those people that this is their life. Ginger must be SO proud of her site.

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Give it a rest, Karen.  Nobody "alerted" you to this thread and its contents.  You post here almost daily defending yourself so don't try to shrug it off like you didn't know about it to your ST buddies - that dog don't hunt.

So you're surprised that your husband is gay and living in California?  Or are you just surprised that everyone knows it?  I'd bet the latter...


that so many of them monitor this site... it makes this all the more funny.  ::bigmouth::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2006, 12:25:55 PM
::bump::  ::read::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 08, 2006, 03:41:39 PM
i think karen has had enough.  she's not smarter than anyone here and she's tired of being exposed as the lame-ass that she really is.

i bet her kids read this and have a good laugh at ol' mom's expense.
Title: Reasons Why Karen Was Shit-Canned From Her Job
Post by: Troll Control on August 08, 2006, 03:49:39 PM
Looks like she messed with the bull...  and got the horns!
_____________________________________________________

Karen Austin, general counsel of Lewisville's American Building Control Inc., found herself in a touchy situation last fall after she began to question whether the company's then-chief executive officer might have personally benefited from some corporate purchases -- allegations he denied.

Once she began to receive information, Austin says her ethical duty as a lawyer required her to investigate. But she says reporting provisions of the Sarbanes-Oxley Corporate Fraud and Accountability Act helped her obtain the authority to follow through on her concerns about some related-party transactions involving former CEO Niklaus F. Zenger. (Sarbanes-Oxley is a corporate compliance act passed by Congress in 2002 in the wake of financial scandals at major corporations.)

"We're not talking millions, but for our company, anything mattered," says Austin, who joined American Building Control as its general counsel in July 2001.

Austin says she went to the board of directors' audit committee and received authority to continue her research at American Building Control -- a security company founded in 1995 that formerly was known as Ultrak Inc. In December 2002, the company changed its name when it sold its closed circuit television business to Honeywell International Inc. for $36 million.

"I was in a very bad position. We are not a big company. This was my boss, our CEO," Austin says.

"It was very, very stressful," she says, adding that Sarbanes-Oxley would require her to first report any questionable dealings to the CEO.

Zenger, a Swiss national, resigned as CEO on Jan. 20, as chairman of the board on Feb. 5 and as a board member on March 8, according to the company's 10-k filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 4. Zenger's resignation came after a group of shareholders in the company announced in an SEC filing in November 2002 that they no longer had confidence in him, or in the majority of the board members, and intended to seek their dismissals or resignations.

Zenger -- who became co-CEO of the company in April 2002 -- could not be reached for comment. He has no telephone listing in the Dallas area. An attorney in Bern, Switzerland, who Austin says has represented Zenger, Beat Marfurt, declines to answer questions about Zenger or even confirm he represents Zenger.

Information in that SEC filing, a Schedule 13D filed on Nov. 7, 2002, raised concerns for Austin, who has spent all of her career as an in-house lawyer at various companies.
...
Austin says that around the time the 13D was filed, employees and others who knew Zenger began to come to her and raise questions about a large software purchase and the purchase of furniture for the company's office in Switzerland.
...
Austin says the investigation was authorized after Zenger left by Bryan Tate, the current CEO and board chairman.
...
Austin says she made a lot of telephone calls to Switzerland, but her fact-finding was slowed by the language barrier. Ultimately, Austin says, the company hired an investigator in Switzerland.

Austin alleges Zenger eventually told her she could no longer report to him and tried to discredit her before the board. She wasn't fearful of losing her job because she has an employment contract, but concedes it was a nerve-racking time.

During those weeks last fall, Austin says her duty was to the shareholders. The group of shareholders who filed the Schedule 13D were interested in removing Zenger and some of the board members, according to the filing.

"My wishes weren't necessarily the best thing for the company, which would be blow the thing wide open," she says.
...
But Tate adds that his "experience with Miss Austin is positive."
...
Karen Austin doesn't wait for anything to happen.
____________________________________________________

Looks like she tried a coup, a power grab, for a bigger position and ended up getting fired.  Poor Karen!  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2006, 04:07:28 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
i think karen has had enough.  she's not smarter than anyone here and she's tired of being exposed as the lame-ass that she really is.

i bet her kids read this and have a good laugh at ol' mom's expense.


i doubt her kids are laughing, they have a lot more posted on the web about them, including pictures, than karen does. she had to keep on going though... always the one uppmansship, right karen? well, anytime you feel the need again, we are all still here.  :P
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2006, 04:14:16 PM
Focusing on her career, giving little time to her family, the only thing she produces for her family is stress and a paycheck. No wonder you had to send all your kids away. Did you ever consider raising your kids yourself, or was it always part of the plan to send them away, Karen?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2006, 08:35:21 PM
Lookit those views climb!  Karen, you have a lot of fans, aparently.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 09, 2006, 10:07:33 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Focusing on her career, giving little time to her family, the only thing she produces for her family is stress and a paycheck. No wonder you had to send all your kids away. Did you ever consider raising your kids yourself, or was it always part of the plan to send them away, Karen?


This is a good point.  Well, Karen, what's your response?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 09, 2006, 04:09:07 PM
karen is angry!! :o

(http://http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/wankspanners/ugly_woman.gif)

 :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 10, 2006, 07:45:35 AM
...and has tiny tits!  she sure does look mad, though.
Title: Re: Reasons Why Karen Was Shit-Canned From Her Job
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2006, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Looks like she messed with the bull...  and got the horns!
_____________________________________________________

Karen Austin, general counsel of Lewisville's American Building Control Inc., found herself in a touchy situation last fall after she began to question whether the company's then-chief executive officer might have personally benefited from some corporate purchases -- allegations he denied.

Once she began to receive information, Austin says her ethical duty as a lawyer required her to investigate. But she says reporting provisions of the Sarbanes-Oxley Corporate Fraud and Accountability Act helped her obtain the authority to follow through on her concerns about some related-party transactions involving former CEO Niklaus F. Zenger. (Sarbanes-Oxley is a corporate compliance act passed by Congress in 2002 in the wake of financial scandals at major corporations.)

"We're not talking millions, but for our company, anything mattered," says Austin, who joined American Building Control as its general counsel in July 2001.

Austin says she went to the board of directors' audit committee and received authority to continue her research at American Building Control -- a security company founded in 1995 that formerly was known as Ultrak Inc. In December 2002, the company changed its name when it sold its closed circuit television business to Honeywell International Inc. for $36 million.

"I was in a very bad position. We are not a big company. This was my boss, our CEO," Austin says.

"It was very, very stressful," she says, adding that Sarbanes-Oxley would require her to first report any questionable dealings to the CEO.

Zenger, a Swiss national, resigned as CEO on Jan. 20, as chairman of the board on Feb. 5 and as a board member on March 8, according to the company's 10-k filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 4. Zenger's resignation came after a group of shareholders in the company announced in an SEC filing in November 2002 that they no longer had confidence in him, or in the majority of the board members, and intended to seek their dismissals or resignations.

Zenger -- who became co-CEO of the company in April 2002 -- could not be reached for comment. He has no telephone listing in the Dallas area. An attorney in Bern, Switzerland, who Austin says has represented Zenger, Beat Marfurt, declines to answer questions about Zenger or even confirm he represents Zenger.

Information in that SEC filing, a Schedule 13D filed on Nov. 7, 2002, raised concerns for Austin, who has spent all of her career as an in-house lawyer at various companies.
...
Austin says that around the time the 13D was filed, employees and others who knew Zenger began to come to her and raise questions about a large software purchase and the purchase of furniture for the company's office in Switzerland.
...
Austin says the investigation was authorized after Zenger left by Bryan Tate, the current CEO and board chairman.
...
Austin says she made a lot of telephone calls to Switzerland, but her fact-finding was slowed by the language barrier. Ultimately, Austin says, the company hired an investigator in Switzerland.

Austin alleges Zenger eventually told her she could no longer report to him and tried to discredit her before the board. She wasn't fearful of losing her job because she has an employment contract, but concedes it was a nerve-racking time.

During those weeks last fall, Austin says her duty was to the shareholders. The group of shareholders who filed the Schedule 13D were interested in removing Zenger and some of the board members, according to the filing.

"My wishes weren't necessarily the best thing for the company, which would be blow the thing wide open," she says.
...
But Tate adds that his "experience with Miss Austin is positive."
...
Karen Austin doesn't wait for anything to happen.
____________________________________________________

Looks like she tried a coup, a power grab, for a bigger position and ended up getting fired.  Poor Karen!  :lol:  :lol:


 :rofl:  :cry2:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 11, 2006, 12:33:55 PM
Karen?  Kaaaaarrreeeeen?  Karen??

 :lol:  :lol:  :P  :P  :D  :oops:  :nworthy:  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2006, 04:49:51 PM
She'll be back when she is on vacation in a hotel, so she can claim 'I am not karen, have your ip experts check that' as she likes to.  :D  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2006, 08:01:13 PM
HOMELAND INSECURITY
Who's guarding U.S. nuke secrets?
Firm with access to nuclear labs run by foreign CEO

October 31, 2002

According to the Insight report, what's now raising eyebrows is the fact that the new CEO of the Secret Service's lead contractor, Ultrak Inc. of Lewisville, Texas, is a Swiss resident with close ties to the Russian government.

In fact, he's close enough to have once been allowed access to Russia's ultra-secret nuclear-weapons command center.

Niklaus Zenger took over as Ultrak's CEO during a June shareholders meeting. He and all but one member of the company's board of directors are foreign nationals.

Said one security expert, "A foreign-controlled company whose CEO has ties close enough to the Russian government to be toured through its nuclear command center should not be anywhere near the chain of authority of a highly sensitive data system at the White House,'' according to the Insight report.

Some of Zenger's former business associates say they're also disturbed to hear he's running a company in charge of the crucial computer system used to clear those who go in and out of the White House.

These same sources say Zenger's close ties to the Russian government go back to the days of the former Soviet Union. They also claim he has a history of running away with proprietary U.S. technology after coming up short on promised cash and other commitments.

They say it's a track record that makes him untrustworthy to handle security issues for any government agency, let alone the White House.

''He's the last person I'd ever want to be involved with, let alone leading a group that's doing security for the White House,'' says Wayne Jacoby, a former business associate.

Ultrak isn't saying much about its new CEO. The company won't make Zenger available for interviews. It's also refused to provide a photo or basic biography with the date and place of his birth.

The company's general counsel, Karen Austin, says Ultrak performed a background check on Zenger before he joined the board of directors, but admitted the inquiry was cursory.

''In Europe, the privacy laws are pretty strict, and really all you can find out is whether they've had any criminal convictions,'' she says. ''He did not.''

Zenger frequently visits corporate headquarters in Lewisville, Texas. ''He has a lot of energy and a lot of real innovative ideas. Our CFO compared him to Bill Gates,'' said Austin.

Meanwhile, according to the Insight report, there's heightened concern over new business Ultrak has obtained with U.S. government agencies.

The company has just been selected to install a new system at the Los Alamos and Sandia nuclear laboratories in New Mexico. These are the same labs where alleged Chinese espionage is reported to have resulted in Communist China getting U.S. nuclear-weapons designs.

The labs had contracted with Ultrak vendors to build a new computerized fire-protection system that experts say would give the contractor sensitive data about process details and the location of important data and materials.

Austin adds Zenger probably will have little involvement with the Ultrak division handling Los Alamos and Sandia systems, but conceded that he likely would have access to the system designs if he wanted to review them.

Notra Trulock, the former director of intelligence for the Department of Energy who blew the whistle on lax security at the labs during the Clinton administration, says there should be concern about a foreign-owned company doing this type of work.

''They have to know physically where everything is. Presumably they'll have a combination of blueprints and walk-arounds and so forth. At Los Alamos there's one area where they store plutonium, for instance. That could present some interesting fire-protection problems. If there's fissile material ? highly enriched uranium or plutonium ? or something like that where you would be worried about terrorist threats, then there would be issues,'' said Trulock.

However, Trulock says the designers of the system probably will not have access to the design of nuclear weapons.

Los Alamos is currently investigating whether the Ultrak vendors are in breach of contract by violating the lab's ''Buy American'' provisions, says lab spokesman Kevin Roark. ''We direct all of our contractors not to deal with companies that are foreign-controlled,'' says Roark. ''It's part of every contract we have. ... it could be that they're in breach.''

And even if Ultrak manages to meet Los Alamos' definitions of an American company, critics say Zenger's background and business history should be enough to make the lab and other government facilities think twice before dealing with him.

Zenger's disputes with American technology companies reportedly go back to the early '90s.

According to a 1993 article in Oregon Business magazine, Zenger was CEO of a Swiss company called BCG when he made a deal with Portland, Ore.-based PC Technology and Summit Micro Design of Sunnyvale, Calif., to ship 3,000 386SX computers to the Ukraine, then a communist stronghold and part of the U.S.S.R.

The computers were shipped, but the money never came.

''They kept giving us excuses why the money wasn't there, such as the investors were holding onto it or the bank was having difficulty transferring the money,'' a PC Technology official told Oregon Business.

According to the Insight report, a similar dispute involved a company Zenger formed in the Philadelphia area called CyberNet Inc.

The company was set up to perform long-distance telephone routing services and to compile U.N. statistics for software. Zenger recruited Jacoby, who says he put $35,000 of his own money into the company.

But after almost a year, Jacoby says, Zenger still had not made good on his promise to pay Jacoby and the other associates in the company who developed the technology.

''He took the know-how and all my contributions and didn't pay for anything,'' Jacoby said.

Jacoby sued Zenger's company in the small-claims court and won a judgment of $8,500 against him in April 1997, which Jacoby says remained unpaid.

Shareholders in I-Link of Draper, Utah, also have raised concerns about Zenger being trusted with information relating to national security, according to the Insight report.

I-Link developed innovative technology that would allow its customers to receive phone calls, faxes and e-mails at the same time on the same telephone line and to engage in teleconferencing without prior arrangements with the phone company.

In May of 2000, Red Cube International, a Swiss telecommunications company whose CEO was Zenger, entered into a licensing agreement with I-Link to market its technology. It later made an agreement to acquire controlling interest in I-Link from its majority shareholder, Winter Harbor LLC, an investment firm owned by hotel magnate Richard Marriott and his family.

Then in December of 2000, Red Cube announced it would not pay Winter Harbor and it also failed to deliver the operational funding I-Link said it had promised to them. Red Cube contended in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing that it was withholding payment because I-Link had violated the terms of its agreement. I-Link disputed the claim and charged in a lawsuit that Red Cube was trying to bankrupt the company and pirate its proprietary technology without paying for it.

I-Link and Red Cube went through a long arbitration process in New York City. Winter Harbor eventually sold its controlling interest in I-Link to Counsel Corp., a Canadian firm. But in the meantime I-Link, while remaining solvent, saw its share price tank. It closed at 10 cents on Oct. 23, and shareholders who have lost almost everything they put in, blame Zenger for much of the drop.

''He tried to steal the technology and take our customers and key employees and pirate them away, so that we wouldn't have anything,'' says Paula Danieli, who bought stock in I-link in 1999.

Then in October of 2001, shortly after the I-Link controversy and just after the attacks on New York City and Washington, Zenger acquired controlling interest in Ultrak.

Although the company's share price was volatile and it wasn't in great financial shape, Ultrak could have been attractive in a time of heightened security for its prestigious security contracts with government entities such as the Secret Service.

And according to the Insight report, the Secret Service has no objections to a company headed by a foreign CEO with Russian ties handling a system that contains sensitive data about who goes in and out of the White House, when and why.

''Everybody who's worked on it has had the appropriate security clearance,'' Secret Service spokesman Marc Connolly said.

But some of those who have dealt with Zenger worry about what the United States stands to lose.

''It's totally frightening," says I-Link shareholder Danieli. ''I can't believe that our government would be so irresponsible as to put this guy into this kind of situation. It just boggles my mind. We're supposedly under heightened security, and it really bothers me that somebody not even from the United States, from a foreign country and with a dubious background, can affect the entire U.S. national security.''
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2006, 08:15:28 PM
And, what is the purpose of this post?  Anyone can "google" Karen Austin.  What exactly are you trying to prove here?  It's hard to determine whether you are defending her or not.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 14, 2006, 08:27:50 AM
karen's a bitch. :lol:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2006, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
karen's a bitch. :lol:


 :lol:  :wave:  :tup:  :em:  :oops:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on August 15, 2006, 10:18:48 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
karen's a bitch. :lol:


True dat.  Word up.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2006, 04:58:54 PM
Karen's pussy tastes like sardines doused with olive oil, she needs some serious work.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 07, 2006, 07:23:26 PM
Fornits - 1
Karen  - 0
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on September 29, 2006, 05:28:43 PM
I'm glad that dumb bitch is gone.  What an annoying fucking retard.  Did you notice how she disappeared from StrugglingTools as well?  She even deleted a bunch of posts.  She hasn't been back either.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2006, 06:21:06 PM
What's up with that, was she for real???????????????  I think she is a fucking liar! :rofl:  :flame:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 08:32:23 AM
The Karen Saga continues...  Come have a look at the most pathetic, lying, moron troll ever to be revealed on Fornits...

Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
"Probably because they were lied to like most other parents.

Here's the facts laid out for you as simply as I can put them.

This kid was at HLA for 20 months. He while there may have tried to kill himself.

Upon leaving hla he still had unresolved issues and so went to another program for an undetermined amount of time.

After that program he went home and enrolled in a community college where still having unresolved issues needed to be medicated, which apparently led to his death. "

Robert Devin Bruce:

You are making alot of assumptions here.  By saying that he 'may" have tried to kill himself while at HLA, you are only trying to stir things up.

I can just as easily say that while at HLA you may have tried to kill yourself.  You may have destroyed property.  You may have been arrested.  You may have broken the sex agreement with a variety of male and female students.  You may have snuck drugs onto campus and shared them with 13 year olds who had no prior history of drug use.  You MAY have done all of these things.

Yes, Patrick still had unresolved issues.  Doesn't everyone.

What proof do you have that Patricks death was of anything but natural causes?  I would really like to know.  How did his medication lead to his death?  The assumption that many are making is that he killed himself.  I hope to God for his family that that is not the case.

this is just the pathetic carlbrook mom troll.  still can't figure out how to do quotes, huh?  this person has nothing whatsoever to do with HLA.  move on, lady.

Just wanted to give you all a "heads-up" on this poster.  Believe it or not, this is actually KAREN, who has recently relocted to Nashville, TN (WIllieNelson on ST board, too, Karen??).

This was tipped to me by another parent with whom Karen has regular contact.

Here's the tip:

-"She has a direct link to both Max Kutch and Chad Wallace (both of whom she asked about)"

-"Max is the brother of one of her son's ex-girlfriends and Chad is someone Kiley used to hang out with prior to both of them getting sent to their respective TBSs."

-"She told me all of this when XXXXX was at HLA the same time Max and Chad were there."

So, there you have it.  It's Karen.  Or should I say "HStreet" or "KarenInDallas" or "RandomWalk" or now "MomofWildChild"??

Karen, you are a pathetic loser and a huge liar.  How dare you come on here posing as researcher and "published author" looking for information on suicide.  Your kid's friend is DEAD, and this is how you act?  Figures, though.  It fits your completely amoral profile.

BTW, your "friends" love you so much that one of them actually registered for this board to drop me a PM to tip me to your posting here (which I had already called out several times).  as I told you before, Karen, you are a pariah and a kook and everyone knows it.  

Your "friends" sell you down the river for nothing.  Maybe it's time to reevaluate the way you live your life, huh, Karen?

So, why the relocation?  Just work, or did your husband dump you now too?


Be sure to check out her posts as "MomofWildChild" on the College Confiodential boards.  Have fun, kids!  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2006, 09:24:01 AM
MomofWildChild
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,552

Holy crapola, that's a lot of posting karen!

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sea ... id=4297591 (http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/search.php?searchid=4297591)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 09:37:29 AM
yeah and her typical style goes over like a fart in church there too.  funny, ain't it??


"MomofWC,

If you review the thread, you should see you are the one that stirred things the most. First, you wrote:


Quote:
Northwestern is excellent but not in the same league  


Later, you added:


Quote:
Chicago gets you in the same doors as does HYP. Northwestern gets you in the same doors as Michigan and UCLA.  


Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But you can't deny yours is quite controversial to many on this board. It's not backed by available stats (placement to Harvard law school, Yale law schoo, # Fortune 500 CEOs...where Chicago lags far behind HYP and it's nowhere to be found in the list of schools producing the most CEOs). People say HYPMS, not HYPMS"C" (C for Chicago). There are many Chicago vs WashU vs Northwestern..threads but ther's almost never a Chicago vs Harvard thread. Just saying "you've been practicing law..blah blah for 20+ years" isn't gonna cut it. When you made a bold generalization like that, you should provide data to back it up.

Threads often turn ugly when people make blanket generalization without any hard evidence to support it."
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 09:38:36 AM
i suggest you all get usernames on that board to set karen straight!

"first string" is already on the job!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2006, 09:40:16 AM
funny how she pretends her son went to a normal school and everything and then is so intense about telling other parents to send their kids away. Your son go to drink on the weekends at his program... why do you lie Karen?

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There was little to no drinking AT my son's boarding school. When the kids were off campus on weekends, there was drinking at parties. In our former hometown, there was extensive drinking both at the public and private schools. Drug use was heavier at the private schools, with a drug "buying" cooperative formed by one junior class at the most exclusive prep school (day). Lower income kids tended to drink in cars or out at the lake. Upper income kids had the house parties which got busted and made the news. The top students at all the schools were as likely to drink as the less academically inclined kids.
The boarding school kids I have observed over the years adjusted well to college, partied hard but managed to balance their academics and outside interests and seemed to have a much easier transition than did many of the kids from regular high schools who were away from home for the first time."


She makes it seem like every kid would benefit from a program... cough cough... I mean boarding school.  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 09:40:38 AM
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Today, 08:28 AM    #158  
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10-19-2006, 07:07 AM #128
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Posts: 2,552 elsi- let it go. You are embarrassing yourself. Your first post to ME in response to my opinion (I did not direct any posts at you up to that point) was
"that's the most unsubstantiated and ridiculous thing i've ever heard. Don't post nonsense on these boards, people who don't know any better might actually believe you."

I doubt I'm the first adult to tell you to get your head out of your a$$. Get used to it.
Thank you for the compliment. I'm quite a bit over 40.
Now just let it go. I'm finished arguing with you and I'm sorry you are insecure about your transfer decision. You'll be fine if you learn to keep your mouth shut."  


Don't let this poster insult you! Read this http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=11137 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=11137) and you'll know who you're dealing with. It's not a pretty picture...


True.  It's a very ugly picture, and person (not talking physical here).  Big Mouth Karen needs to SHUT UP for once in her pathetic life.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2006, 09:42:58 AM
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When D (straight) went to Interlochen for her last two years of high school, it was gratifying to see how comfortable the gay/lesbian kids felt there. A majority of the boys at Interlochen were gay, and Interlochen was heaven for them. Being a ballet dancer or vocalist was respected and everyone's talents were nurtured. My daughter joked that there was more drama in the guys' dorms than in the girls' dorms. I was glad there was such a place for these talented kids who felt out of place at their home high schools.


Yeah... lets send all guy people to programs so they feel less out of place.  :roll: You patronizing bitch.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 10:39:17 AM
[quote[10-17-2006, 05:59 PM    #75  
elsijfdl
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 580  


MomofWildChild (Karen) wrote:
"elsijfdl - You better learn to read what people are actually saying or it isn't going to matter WHAT school you go to. Get your head out of your a$$. My opinion had nothing to do with law school. Unlike you, I am capable of understanding written words and am quite aware that we are discussing the prestige of the undergraduate degree. My opinion is different from yours. Deal with it. Prestige isn't going to get you very far anyway, so don't worry about it."

listen to you, you're a mom getting in arguments and swearing at 19 year-old kids on an internet forum [/quote]

And we thought it was just program kids who Karen likes to demean and degrade.  I guess "regular" kids are the object of her scorn, too.  Probably anyone other than her "perfect children" should keep their heads down - Karen's gunnin' for ya!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 10:40:27 AM
sorry...missed a bracket on the tag...

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[10-17-2006, 05:59 PM #75
elsijfdl
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 580


MomofWildChild (Karen) wrote:
"elsijfdl - You better learn to read what people are actually saying or it isn't going to matter WHAT school you go to. Get your head out of your a$$. My opinion had nothing to do with law school. Unlike you, I am capable of understanding written words and am quite aware that we are discussing the prestige of the undergraduate degree. My opinion is different from yours. Deal with it. Prestige isn't going to get you very far anyway, so don't worry about it."

listen to you, you're a mom getting in arguments and swearing at 19 year-old kids on an internet forum


And we thought it was just program kids who Karen likes to demean and degrade. I guess "regular" kids are the object of her scorn, too. Probably anyone other than her "perfect children" should keep their heads down - Karen's gunnin' for ya!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 12:18:59 PM
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The Beer Chronicles: 20 Signs of a Drinking Problem
K**** A*****-Y****
October 2, 2006

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If you genuinely believe the weekend starts on Wednesday and proclaim such absurdities as ?Wednesday is the new Thursday.?
If every night of drinking requires at least half the next day to reassemble the tiny pieces of the relationships you shattered while drunk.
If you find yourself consistently using the phrase, ?I?m really sorry for what I did. I don?t remember seeing you last night.?
If your main goal in attending a football game is to get drunk and start a fight with someone supporting the other team. And by other, you mean either. It really doesn?t matter.
If you subscribe to the maxim ?drunk words are sober thoughts? in order to be able to publicly insult people and take pride in your ?candor? while slurring Malcolm X quotes: ?I've had enough of someone else's propaganda. I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it's for or against.? God, if only everyone was as morally upstanding as me, you think.
If you are known not by name but by actions you perpetrated while drunk. For instance, ?the guy who started that huge fight? or ?the guy who was ass naked in Harvard Square? or simply ?the guy who peed in ?.
If you invite a girl back to your place for a bottle of wine mainly for the wine.
If you insist that you?re not really drinking. This is only wine. A wine drunk is ?different.?
If you gave a homeless man twenty bucks with the stipulation that he would spend it on booze and not ?Mickey D?s or some shit.?
If you pregame at Hillel.
If you recently had a drunken heart to heart with the security guard because everyone else had gone to bed by 7:30am.
If you decline plans with friends because you just have ?soooo much drinking to do.?
If you find breaking an empty forty on the cement the best stress reliever ever.
If you think any man who won?t freeball under his costume for the toga party is a total pussy.
If your rib still hurts from that drunken fight last weekend. But it?s totally cool because ?it doesn?t even hurt to breathe anymore.?
If you agree that if you had a chance to eat dinner with Bill Clinton, Tucker Max or Frank Kelly Rich, you would totally choose one of the latter.
If you can?t walk in any direction without running into a girl you slept with while drunk.
If it takes you more than fifteen seconds to realize where you are in the morning.
If you recently experimented with absurd alcoholic combinations, such as Sake and Jack Daniels or Merlot and Captain Morgan?s. It may be nasty, but you insist: ?It all ends up in the same place anyways. Don?t be an alcohol snob. Tool.?
If you really just can?t fucking stand being sober.

K**** A*****-Y**** is a freshman in the College. You can write to him at k****[email protected]

yeah, that 100 grand for "TBS's" sure paid off... :roll: [/quote]
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 12:48:14 PM
Karen, I wonder if your new employer would be thrilled about your use of their VPN to post all kinds of nasty stuff on the internet???

Remember when you were begging for information about my employer so you could "inform" them about my "activities"?  Wonder how the shoe feels on the other foot...?  Probably not the best way to start a new chapter in your employment, dear.  Just some friendly advice.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 01:07:11 PM
yeah.  imagine if her boss was reading through all of that disturbing stuff she posts.  man.  i don't think they'd be happy when they find out all of the lies she tells people at work and stuff.  maybe she even lied on her application.  who knows?  if i was in her position, i wouldn't push.  especially since she posts on ST and her IP address (thanks, Lon!) goes right back to her employer.  i mean, duh, karen.  how hard is it to find out you keep using the same IP addresses to post there and everywhere else?  let's just say that "LP" would not be happy knowing how you use their equipment to harass and degrade "program kids" who have already suffered at great length.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2006, 01:43:52 PM
this just keeps getting better and better. seriously good work!  :D  :P   :wave:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 23, 2006, 02:07:48 PM
yeah, it's pretty good.  what just amazes me, though, is that karen is actually that fucking stupid.  she's got to be one of the biggest idiots out there.  not only does she leave a "paper trail" everywhere she posts, but she's dumb enough to use her employers equipment to do it.  not only is it idiotic on a personal level, now she's made her corporate network vulnerable to snoops.  if her boss finds out, i'd say a quick firing is in order, thusly causing a new relocation.  she was shit-canned from the last one and she's well on the way to being shit-canned from this one.  what a fucking dope.

i bet her kid is going to get righteously angry when he finds out that she's posted all his private information all over the 'net as well.  can you imagine how embarrassing it must be to have a parent like that?  *shudders*
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 24, 2006, 12:07:16 PM
Anybody email her kid yet to let him know how mommy spews every excrutiating detail of his personal life on the internet?  He should know what she's doing.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: RobertBruce on October 24, 2006, 01:35:15 PM
Hey idiot! Come on out. We know you pore over these boards each and every day. We also know how stupid you feel for posting from work and allowing yourself to be traced. There really isnt any reason to feel ashamed though, I mean we all already knew what a complete and total moron you are, not to mention what a disgusting person and horrible mother.

With all that already out in the open there really isnt any reason to hide anymore.

See you real soon.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 25, 2006, 09:34:39 AM
My question is this:  Karen, if you're not smart enough to get away with what you do and you get caught over and over and over again lying, flaming, denying and falsifying your identity, why do you continue to do it?  Are you suffering from some untreated mental illness or something?

Let's face the facts, shall we, Karen?  You've been outsmarted at every turn by a bunch of "troubled teens."  Maybe it's time for you to grow up and move on...?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2006, 12:41:44 PM
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Are you suffering from some untreated mental illness or something?


She suffers from a severe case of parentis programitus.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 25, 2006, 01:02:42 PM
And refuses to serve in loco programis.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 27, 2006, 12:53:03 PM
Well that made her shut up fast. Kudos to the investigators who found this information, and did us all the favor. The troll levels in teen help forum have never been this low in quite some time. Will she be back?  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 27, 2006, 01:20:58 PM
She'll be back...she can't help it.  It's a sickness.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on October 29, 2006, 07:39:28 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
She'll be back...she can't help it.  It's a sickness.


well that didn't take long.  she's in the hla threads again.  what a loser.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2006, 09:10:24 PM
been awful quiet 'rounod these parts...  :rofl:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on November 24, 2006, 05:58:11 PM
have you guys seen how karen and annie(ottawa5) have teamed up again at ST?  they're now spreading all the lies about themselves as 'perfects' over there.  'well, put, anne' and 'very true, willienelson(karenindallas, etc)'...  kissing eachothers asses and bashing anti-program posters.

i pm'ed most of the ST regulars and gave them links to karen's and ottawa's threads here so they could see what kind of lunatics these two women are.  i got a lot of responses from 'deeply disturbed' ST posters who couldn't believe how phony these two are.  i did the same at college confidential where karen posts too and those people cracked up when they read all about her here.

so, just a heads-up to let you know the dynamic duo are at it again, only this time on ST and not in the HLA threads here.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 06:56:09 PM
Can you please not do that, though?

Let them have their safe haven at Struggling Trolls. Otherwise they might come back here.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006, 11:56:24 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
have you guys seen how karen and annie(ottawa5) have teamed up again at ST?  they're now spreading all the lies about themselves as 'perfects' over there.  'well, put, anne' and 'very true, willienelson(karenindallas, etc)'...  kissing eachothers asses and bashing anti-program posters.

i pm'ed most of the ST regulars and gave them links to karen's and ottawa's threads here so they could see what kind of lunatics these two women are.  i got a lot of responses from 'deeply disturbed' ST posters who couldn't believe how phony these two are.  i did the same at college confidential where karen posts too and those people cracked up when they read all about her here.

so, just a heads-up to let you know the dynamic duo are at it again, only this time on ST and not in the HLA threads here.


 :P  :rofl:  :D  :nworthy:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  ::cheers::  ::cheers::  ::cheers::  ::cheers::  ::cheers::  ::cheers::  ::armed::  ::armed::  :smokin:
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on November 26, 2006, 12:39:39 PM
gotta bump up the karen thread.  she deserves it - and more.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2006, 01:32:39 PM
Who gives a shit?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2006, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Who gives a shit?


Your mom.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Troll Control on November 26, 2006, 04:25:35 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Who gives a shit?


well, you, ('I am not')Karen. :D
Title: Post on P. 60- Guest
Post by: Charly on August 29, 2007, 02:18:41 PM
Could whoever posted The Beer Chronicles article on P. 60 of this thread please send me a PM?  I need a favor.
Ginger and Psy suggested I post and ask.  Thanks a lot.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2007, 08:18:44 PM
Trying to spy on your kid Karen?
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Charly on September 05, 2007, 10:03:06 PM
No- I am requesting that his name be removed from the fornits post and only the person who posted it can remove it.  Ginger and Psy suggested I post here and ask.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2007, 10:05:49 PM
This one? Guests can't edit posts, so someone is pulling your leg.

Quote from: "Guest"
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The Beer Chronicles: 20 Signs of a Drinking Problem
K**** A*****-Y****
October 2, 2006

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you genuinely believe the weekend starts on Wednesday and proclaim such absurdities as ?Wednesday is the new Thursday.?
If every night of drinking requires at least half the next day to reassemble the tiny pieces of the relationships you shattered while drunk.
If you find yourself consistently using the phrase, ?I?m really sorry for what I did. I don?t remember seeing you last night.?
If your main goal in attending a football game is to get drunk and start a fight with someone supporting the other team. And by other, you mean either. It really doesn?t matter.
If you subscribe to the maxim ?drunk words are sober thoughts? in order to be able to publicly insult people and take pride in your ?candor? while slurring Malcolm X quotes: ?I've had enough of someone else's propaganda. I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it's for or against.? God, if only everyone was as morally upstanding as me, you think.
If you are known not by name but by actions you perpetrated while drunk. For instance, ?the guy who started that huge fight? or ?the guy who was ass naked in Harvard Square? or simply ?the guy who peed in ?.
If you invite a girl back to your place for a bottle of wine mainly for the wine.
If you insist that you?re not really drinking. This is only wine. A wine drunk is ?different.?
If you gave a homeless man twenty bucks with the stipulation that he would spend it on booze and not ?Mickey D?s or some shit.?
If you pregame at Hillel.
If you recently had a drunken heart to heart with the security guard because everyone else had gone to bed by 7:30am.
If you decline plans with friends because you just have ?soooo much drinking to do.?
If you find breaking an empty forty on the cement the best stress reliever ever.
If you think any man who won?t freeball under his costume for the toga party is a total pussy.
If your rib still hurts from that drunken fight last weekend. But it?s totally cool because ?it doesn?t even hurt to breathe anymore.?
If you agree that if you had a chance to eat dinner with Bill Clinton, Tucker Max or Frank Kelly Rich, you would totally choose one of the latter.
If you can?t walk in any direction without running into a girl you slept with while drunk.
If it takes you more than fifteen seconds to realize where you are in the morning.
If you recently experimented with absurd alcoholic combinations, such as Sake and Jack Daniels or Merlot and Captain Morgan?s. It may be nasty, but you insist: ?It all ends up in the same place anyways. Don?t be an alcohol snob. Tool.?
If you really just can?t fucking stand being sober.

K**** A*****-Y**** is a freshman in the College. You can write to him at [email protected]

yeah, that 100 grand for "TBS's" sure paid off... :roll:
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Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2007, 10:09:38 PM
Ok, now THAT's funny!


 ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2007, 10:12:42 PM
I don't get it.
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2007, 10:13:23 PM
(http://http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/fullmulletalchemist/nelson_ha_ha.jpg)
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2007, 10:14:56 PM
Now THAT'S funny!
Title: Karen In Dallas
Post by: Charly on September 05, 2007, 10:16:23 PM
Ginger said I should ask for the author to contact me.  PM would be fine.  If the author is willing to have the name removed (my son's request), it can be done.
Thanks.