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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Antigen on April 29, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
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http://sltrib.com/utah/ci_2695093 (http://sltrib.com/utah/ci_2695093)
Private school doesn't like state's 'therapeutic' label
By Kirsten Stewart
The Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake Tribune
A private Utah school is fighting against state regulation, arguing it is not a "therapeutic" facility - which are covered by a new law that seeks to crack down on the state's thriving teen help industry.
Administrators at Whitmore Academy in Nephi say they run a boarding school, not a treatment facility catering to troubled teens. They are asking for an exemption to the new licensing category, which goes into effect on May 2.
But state Human Services licensing director Ken Stettler believes "they're hiding behind the moniker of a boarding school" to avoid state oversight.
"All the information they've provided to parents of kids there is they provide counseling for emotional growth and behavioral changes. They cater to kids who have failed in their settings at home," said Stettler.
The new law defines "therapeutic schools" as serving students "who have a history of failing to function at home or public school" and that offer "room and board and specialized structure or treatment related to a disability or emotional development."
Matt Sudweeks, who owns Whitmore with his wife, Cheryl, says he has gotten out of the teen-help business. Whitmore formerly also operated a residential treatment center. But Sudweeks surrendered the center's license last December after a student alleged he was physically and verbally abused at Whitmore.
Utah's Division of Child and Family Services substantiated eight counts of abuse and neglect. The facility is still under criminal investigation by the Juab County Attorney's Office.
Whitmore's attorney, Matt Hilton in Kaysville, says the school - now enrolling 32 students, ages 12 to 17 - employs an educational counselor, but does not submit students to therapy.
Said Sudweeks, "We're licensed with state Board of Education as a boarding school. We cater to kids having trouble in public school system."
Stettler says Whitmore is the only one of five schools under review for regulation to balk at the new rules.
Whitmore, located in a historic mansion on Nephi's Main Street, also was recently cited with numerous fire code violations.
Brent R. Halladay, assistant state fire marshal, says the school has until mid-May to update its automatic sprinkler and fire alarm systems, build a new set of stairs to provide more than one exit, install fire extinguishers and repair electrical problems. Halladay says the Sudweeks have "been very cooperative." But violations were such that, until they are corrected, Sudweeks is required to have someone keep fire watch over the building every day from 7 p.m. until 7 a.m.
The Christian faith from the beginning, is sacrifice: the sacrifice of all freedom, all pride, all self-confidence of spirit; it is at the same time subjection, a self-derision, and self-mutilation.
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher
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On 2005-04-29 10:23:00, Antigen wrote:
Utah's Division of Child and Family Services substantiated eight counts of abuse and neglect. The facility is still under criminal investigation by the Juab County Attorney's Office.
Guess that answers all the crap I keep hearing about the investigation being over.
How can Sue justify continuing to refer to a place that has substantiated counts of abuse? :scared:
Whitmore's attorney, Matt Hilton in Kaysville, says the school - now enrolling 32 students, ages 12 to 17 - employs an educational counselor, but does not submit students to therapy.
Really? What about the Scripting and having Group on someone?
Whitmore, located in a historic mansion on Nephi's Main Street, also was recently cited with numerous fire code violations.
Brent R. Halladay, assistant state fire marshal, says the school has until mid-May to update its automatic sprinkler and fire alarm systems, build a new set of stairs to provide more than one exit, install fire extinguishers and repair electrical problems. Halladay says the Sudweeks have "been very cooperative." But violations were such that, until they are corrected, Sudweeks is required to have someone keep fire watch over the building every day from 7 p.m. until 7 a.m.
:eek: :eek:
When an innocent Californian millionaire gets killed by a drug squad
trying to seize his house with a bogus search warrant, people better ask themselves if they really want to turn their cops into money-makers.
--Vancouver Police Const. Gil Puder
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[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-03-31 19:51 ]
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Cayo,
How can Sue Scheff "justify continuing to send kids to Whitmore?" Guess as they continue to say on this forum--YOU'D HAVE TO ASK HER!!!
[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-03-31 19:52 ]
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So kiddies....who's on FireWatch tonight?? Hmmmmm? Let's see, in my family home (which I consider to be somewhat normal) the smoke detector is on FireWatch. In the Bed and Breakfast (which I would assume is somewhat similar to the Whit mansion) I'll be staying at in a week or so for a business trip the smoke detectors, sprinkler systems etc. will be on FireWatch. Who's on FireWatch at the Whit tonight? Hope they don't fall asleep!!!
When an innocent Californian millionaire gets killed by a drug squad
trying to seize his house with a bogus search warrant, people better ask themselves if they really want to turn their cops into money-makers.
--Vancouver Police Const. Gil Puder
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[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-03-31 19:54 ]
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On 2005-04-29 10:23:00, Antigen wrote:
"http://sltrib.com/utah/ci_2695093
Private school doesn't like state's 'therapeutic' label
By Kirsten Stewart
The Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake Tribune
A private Utah school is fighting against state regulation, arguing it is not a "therapeutic" facility - which are covered by a new law that seeks to crack down on the state's thriving teen help industry.
Administrators at Whitmore Academy in Nephi say they run a boarding school, not a treatment facility catering to troubled teens. They are asking for an exemption to the new licensing category, which goes into effect on May 2.
But state Human Services licensing director Ken Stettler believes "they're hiding behind the moniker of a boarding school" to avoid state oversight.
"All the information they've provided to parents of kids there is they provide counseling for emotional growth and behavioral changes. They cater to kids who have failed in their settings at home," said Stettler.
The new law defines "therapeutic schools" as serving students "who have a history of failing to function at home or public school" and that offer "room and board and specialized structure or treatment related to a disability or emotional development."
Matt Sudweeks, who owns Whitmore with his wife, Cheryl, says he has gotten out of the teen-help business. Whitmore formerly also operated a residential treatment center. But Sudweeks surrendered the center's license last December after a student alleged he was physically and verbally abused at Whitmore.
Utah's Division of Child and Family Services substantiated eight counts of abuse and neglect. The facility is still under criminal investigation by the Juab County Attorney's Office.
Whitmore's attorney, Matt Hilton in Kaysville, says the school - now enrolling 32 students, ages 12 to 17 - employs an educational counselor, but does not submit students to therapy.
Said Sudweeks, "We're licensed with state Board of Education as a boarding school. We cater to kids having trouble in public school system."
Stettler says Whitmore is the only one of five schools under review for regulation to balk at the new rules.
Whitmore, located in a historic mansion on Nephi's Main Street, also was recently cited with numerous fire code violations.
Brent R. Halladay, assistant state fire marshal, says the school has until mid-May to update its automatic sprinkler and fire alarm systems, build a new set of stairs to provide more than one exit, install fire extinguishers and repair electrical problems. Halladay says the Sudweeks have "been very cooperative." But violations were such that, until they are corrected, Sudweeks is required to have someone keep fire watch over the building every day from 7 p.m. until 7 a.m.
The Christian faith from the beginning, is sacrifice: the sacrifice of all freedom, all pride, all self-confidence of spirit; it is at the same time subjection, a self-derision, and self-mutilation.
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher
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Thanks Ginger ... good info ... though for the life of me I don't understand how a facility that is not in compliance with fire protection codes is allowed to remain open? With kids? Sheesh. Guess the state of Utah doesn't believe in Murphy's Law, eh?
FYI
See thread on the now-defunct Maximum Life Skills Academy which as I recall, was not in compliance with state licensing codes requiring them to have 2 counselors on duty at all times. That's just one example .. there are others ... such as Red Rock where Katie Lank died from severe head injuries after she fell down a deep crevice on an under-supervised hiking expedition.
Question?
Are the parents of these programs notified when a program in not in compliance with health and safety standards set by the state of Utah?
Seems to me the least they could do is send a letter to all parents disclosing this information so as to ensure the parent is aware????
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Serious Question:
If this "Mansion" catches on fire, and kids are injured, or worse yet someone dies...and the fire marshal has already issued NUMEROUS fire code violations----who will be hed accountable?
Who is watching out for the safety of these kids locked up in this fire trap? WHO?
Why is this place not closed down until the Fire Marshal says: OK the Sudweeks are in compliance with EACH AND EVERY REQUIREMENT....NOW THEY CAN RE-OPEN.
WHY WHY WHY?
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The more I think about this, the more it bothers me. WTF is wrong with the officials in Utah?? I mean this is crazy! Even if you don't believe what former "students" are saying about the place, THIS cannot be denied. How can anyone justify allowing this place to remain open when violations are apparently so aggregious that someone has to stay awake all night to keep FIRE WATCH????
Wonder if this new student's parents are aware of this??A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of your unit.
-- In the August 1993 issue, page 9, of PS magazine, the Army's magazine of preventive maintenance
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[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-03-31 19:54 ]
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On 2005-04-29 13:50:00, Joyce Harris wrote:
WHY WHY WHY?
Cause it's UTAH! :skull: Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author
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Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.
Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality.
DEFEND THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>???????????>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Hear Cheryl likes to act like a teeny-bopper with the Whitmore kids. Wouldn't it be fun for her to put on the boxing gloves with Rob and go a 'round with him? Just for entertainment? She thought it was funny watching gangland Rob box the heck outta Joey--why not a fun-filled 'round with her to start out the morning?
constant reminder........I'LL BE BACK...............
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I believe "UTAH"--the Attorney Generals Office,
the Licensing Office...a lot of people in Utah are taking this new Boarding School Law a lot more seriously than people think.
I really do believe that.
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Tweaker
Tweaker is a slang term for someone who abuses Methamphetamine, Cocaine or other stimulants. The term comes from tinkering behaviors associated with methamphetamine use. For example, taking apart a bicycle or stereo while under the influence of methamphetamines would be phrased "tweaking on a bicycle or stereo." Tweaking denotes a compulsive behavior. See also: insult
Cheryl TWEAKS about anything....GROUP....no eat...I tweak....kick him with feet.MARK...you peeking on the girls again?.......take a shower for another hour............rub it out of you.......dancing in my underwear........send all your kids her...we care...share........walk around with out a care..........we will help heal...........$50K will seal the deal.............GROUP...get out...make his year hell...........OH...the baby kangaroo is lying..........were sweet.......come join us at the gates of hell.....upon ASYLUM HILL................AMF
Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.
Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality.
DEFEND THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>???????????>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Hilton, Matthew Fenn P.C.
Address: P.O. Box 781
Springville, UT 84663-0781
Phone: (801) 489-1111
Fax: (801) 489-6000
EMAIL: [email protected]
Tweaker and Peek er's attorney........watch as he gets a little to close..........money will blind you.............ooooppps..........xoxoxo
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Tweaker
Tweaker is a slang term for someone who abuses Methamphetamine, Cocaine or other stimulants. The term comes from tinkering behaviors associated with methamphetamine use. For example, taking apart a bicycle or stereo while under the influence of methamphetamines would be phrased "tweaking on a bicycle or stereo." Tweaking denotes a compulsive behavior. See also: insult
Cheryl TWEAKS about anything....GROUP....no eat...I tweak....kick him with feet.MARK...you peeking on the girls again?.......take a shower for another hour............rub it out of you.......dancing in my underwear........send all your kids her...we care...share........walk around with out a care..........we will help heal...........$50K will seal the deal.............GROUP...get out...make his year hell...........OH...the baby kangaroo is lying..........were sweet.......come join us at the gates of hell.....upon ASYLUM HILL................AMF
Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.
Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality.
TORI...........sell out for CHERYL'S favor..........oh poor child........sell what next..........your body????........your soul??????
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Did I read the Tribune article correctly: Will Ken Stettler make his decision today, May 2nd about the "therapuetic" issue and Whitmore?
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How come Tori the Whitmore Spokesperson wasn't quoted in this article? excuse me, I meant Victoria.
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Cheryl and mark are probably the best people i have ever met in my life. not because they are perfect but because i know they would never lower themselves to act like a bunch of you do. you really are pathetic. i couldnt believe it when i saw this subject. you have been hitting below the belt on just about every subject on this site, but this is ridiculous. everyone knows mark sudweeks is just not like what you are trying to say. then someone like tori sticks up for them and look what you do to her no wonder nobody opens their mouths. . go ahead you loosers tear this one apart. oh well it was worth it to just say how much they mean to me, and alot of other kids out there.
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oooooouuuu you sound mad joyce why dont you talk to your friends on the phone. do you have friends you are so hard up. you just look like a rich old lady who is stuck in her pity party because her little adopted girl she couldnt handle loved someone more than her. when are you going to start beating her again. remember. "mommmy does the beating and daddy does the spanking". pooor little Zita that you continue to mentally abuse. joyce go find a friend. someone who knows you. its hard to see what people are like on these forums. but you are becomeing very obvious you nasty nasty old lady. excuse me pornographic old wrinkled lady. with a pussy whipped husband hard up enough for sex that you play with your daughter. leave her alone you bad people she was my good friend.
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oh HELL joyce since when did you care so much? go take care of your abused little girl and let us take care of our abused children.
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Hello there. Joyce does have a friend. Mike Godfrey. the fine state of Utah flew him to Joyces house so he could interview zita. the first time because she couldnt remember anything in utah. in fact she told his office how she liked the place the kids and cheryl and mark. this pissed off joyce so she had them come to texas after she got it through zitas head "earls gotta die" then she concurred up some cockamainie storie about mark and cheryl being petifiles. and they needed to spend more money on another interview. he you gotta friend Joyce. go call Mike Godrey. Soapies just arent entertaining enough these days
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excuse the hell out of all of you you know what kind of place the whitmore is you know the hell hole that your in. not knowing what kind of a mood cheryl will be in each morning so you have to wait till your done with your jobs and she comes up from the basement stairs to see if she's gonna call group on some thing or she'll be happy and laughing. all joyce and gmom are trying to do is bring these people to justice. what they're doing is wrong and no one deserves to go there, no matter what they've done. :smile:
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Could it be the wacky whitmore warriors have returned to offer their intellect to these conversations?
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On 2005-05-03 08:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Could it be the wacky whitmore warriors have returned to offer their intellect to these conversations?"
It would appear so :roll: Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't.
-- Anonymous
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On 2005-05-03 03:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"oh HELL joyce since when did you care so much? go take care of your abused little girl and let us take care of our abused children. "
freudian slip???
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Well hello Whitmore, Cheryl.....
First of all Mr. Mike Godfrey works for the State of Utah, and is not my "friend," and he has never been to my house.
Secondly, I am not rich, tho I wish I were, so whoever the Sudweeks are sharing any of my family's financial information with---as usual they are LIARS.
As for the remainder of the obnoxious LIES about me and my husband: it is the Sudweeks normal game of DEFLECTION---the Sudweeks are being investigated for ABUSING Joey and my daughter...so they TRY to DEFLECT the issue and accuse parents of physical and sexual abuse. CHEAP CHEAP shot, that does not work. NO authorities or agencies are investigating US. Bet the Sudweeks only wish they could dream or say the same.
Have no idea what "earl must die" means. We do not know ANYONE named EARL...and we do not make statements about anyone who must die. That is sick!
And interviewing VICTIMS and Witnesses is the job of AUTHORITIES. They do not interview people by "invitation." You people are just showing your absolute stupidity, as usual.
Thank you for another posting and IP address that the FBI can follow up with. You people are absolutely mind boggling.
Feeling a bit of pressure with all these May "deadlines" are you?
Juab Planning Commission? that should be a cake walk!!!
Gotta meet all those fire code requirements!!!
The Judge needs to rule on Mark's SLAPP suit against Leah!!!
Mr. Ken Stettler wants to License your so-called Boarding School....since Mark opened his whimpy mouth to the press and says "we're out of the teen-help business." AS IF YOU TWO EVER HELPED A TEEN IN YOUR PITIFUL LIVES!!!!!
Meeting with the ole Lawyer a lot these day???....these criminal allegations, and investigation of fraud, etc. is still hanging in there, huh?
You people have a whole lot more to worry about than ME. So to quote YOU PEOPLE: Get a life!
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Who just posted about "...our abused children?"
Now who is admitting that there ARE abused children at the Whitmore, HUH?
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HELLO CHERYL:
Does MATT BOY ATTORNEY know you have gone back to posting??? He might be mad!
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What makes the fire danger worse is the fact that the facility is locked down. In California residential facilities can not be locked. What type of abuse took place at Whitmore?
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Matt's to busy these days...suits being filed.plus criminal charges most probably to be filed...PLUS breach of contract to numerous parties...........let the Festivities began..........................LOL
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only he can see...hours in the shower.power from she.........can say.she led the attacks.told her to stop...thats my story...don't believe her.we a team.you see?can't just be me..gorilla needs to leave ASYLUM HILL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Most probably true....right: true love of the Sudweeks...lol lol. She better take keys to the plane..he might fly off into the sunset and leave her high and dry. lol lol Remember he tried to blame the girls up in Canada!!! True love. right! He will blame her, for sure. Or true team players may blame the hired help! Watch out fine followers!
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Markie Boy speaks out in public always "That's enough Cheryl." HE'S COVERED.
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another $30K, maybe we can get this all to go away///////wrong...dong!!! the bell tolls.......can't bury the truth....MATT going to get a gold tooth..lots of fees.of no use..TWEAKER and PEEK ER going to pay dearly for all the abuse..............fancy talk.MORMON CLAN.of no use.they all sick of the ASYLUM abuse..no excuse you see....JOEY going to have his day in court.....tweaker to plea........last resort.................lol
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Nah, Tweaker will never plea....cause liars don't know how to stop the lies...think the clan can save them...or lining a lawyer's pockets will work....sad tale Tweaker begins to believe her own tales...wails and cries as she lies.
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unable to unwind........just a nasty ball of twine....TWEAKER angry.....sends MATT more dimes....not going to help...CLAN can't find..no time.STATES involved.jury finds all need prison jobs....TWEAKER and PEEK ER can only sob...........gangland ROB did all the punching jobs....baby kangaroo went to another school...TORI speaks for all the zoo.......................AMF
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Tweaker and Peeker sob? Why they're running a fine academic boarding school so well...it only requires a part-time principal that's employed elsewhere...what's to cry about? And what could Tweaker be angry about as she goes about God's work just loving all the children there? But they are both hard workers, and filled with gratitude....they'll do fine working for the State of Utah!
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she keeps him close....can't even lift his leg...learn how to beg........we pay you to stir up the bottom.muddy the water........say were a good mother and father...........need more like TORI.....MATT!!!she will stick to the story............TORI is a fine employee....tetify to your story..........she did not hit the baby kangaroo............EMPLOYEE'S HAVE A DUTY....HANG TORI............ITS HER STORY...................LOL
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Every state has laws, assume Utah is included....that employees are required to report incidents of abuse. IF Tori witnessed abuse of Joey, or any other student at Whitmore Academy--and this can be proven: this young lady needs to come forward and stop protecting the Sudweeks. She is not doing herself any favors, LEGALLY, by trying to cover up abuse for her EMPLOYERS.
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Tori, lots of people know what you have witnessed. You are being set up by expert manipulators. A court of law is very different than chatting on Fornit's. Are you willing to jeopardize your whole future????
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Tori- Tell the authorities the TRUTH then run as fast and you can- and you know this. You are operating on fear and this mansion and these people are your security and you are afraid to jeopardize that at this point. Do the right thing now or it will plague you the rest of your life.
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You'd think this would be advice this girl would be getting from her mother, who is suppose to be in the legal field. But this mother is a volunteer for P.U.R.E, remember!
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heads up...pay attention...need I mention...reporters to call for patronage....watch your words.curse the day....TWEAKER and PEEK ER searching for an exit.don't allow them to find a way.........savos fired...more than across hull...rather nailed them through the skull...only weeks away..criminal and civil tasts.hold them accountable for all their wrongful twists....SUDS going to wish///they never messed with this zoo......SUDS//should have ran an honorable school..........AMF
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Suds run an honorable school? What a laugh. They do not know the meaning of HONORABLE? They are liars, crooks, child abusers. There is no honor among thieves. They stole parents's money and childen's trust.
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The Suds hired their part-time Math Teacher as the "new Principal." Think he has the proper credentials to serve in this honorable post at the Whitmore Academy? Perhaps Ms. Loutensock at the Utah Office of Education can provide that answer.
But, since the Sudweeks proclaim, they are "out of the teen help business" gotta make sure they keep these academics WAY UP THERE to attact the BEST OF THE BEST academic students RIGHT?
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Noticed that Mark Sudweeks is no longer on the Whitmore staff sheet as PE TEACHER...what happened MARKIE...couldn't you pass that little test to get certified????
Now Markie Boy is listed as teacher of "aviation." WOW!!!!
Imagine that! An AVIATION CLASS at ole Whitmore High.
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MARK, now what FAA Certified School gave YOU a " teaching certificate?"
Not trying to pull a fast one on Mr. Ken Stettler now are you?
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AVIATION? Right up there with "Woodshop" "Horsemanship" "Mechanics"
"Home Economics" "Dance"
What a bunch of mind-bending classes for an ACADEMICS-ONLY Boarding School!
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Gee, I wonder where he'll get access to planes and stuff?
"Hinton plans to offer courses in aviation, food handling, CPR and other areas of vocation training. "How great will it be for our kids to go home with a high school diploma and a pilot's license," he said. "That'd be awesome."
source: http://www.boonvilledailynews.com/artic ... /news2.txt (http://www.boonvilledailynews.com/articles/2005/04/09/news/news2.txt)
"J. Ralph Atkin, the founder of SkyWest Airlines, is listed in Commerce
Department records as the registered agent for Cross Creek Manor, Red Rock
Academy, the two limited partnerships that own Teen Help, R & B Billing (which
provides financial services for the programs) and Browning Academy. The state
also lists him as a trustee of WWASP, although he has denied that recently. And
he has been quoted by Associated Press as saying that he was a co-owner of
Morava Academy, the Czech Republic program that was shut down last year."
source: http://isaccorp.org/wwasps/wwaspreport.pdf (http://isaccorp.org/wwasps/wwaspreport.pdf)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=30#95611 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=9116&forum=9&start=30#95611)
A free man must be able to endure it when his fellow men act and live otherwise than he considers proper. He must free himself from the habit, just as soon as something does not please him, of calling for the police.
Ludwig Von Mises
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SURE DOES SOUND LIKE AN "ACADEMICS ONLY" Boarding School plan for Whitmore Academy to me...wonder why Ken Stettler, and all those licensing people are so worried, and don't just leave these fine Sudweeks people alone???
I think these kids at Whitmore could be trusted to fly about the skies of UTAH if they darn well please! Especially if someone as stable as the Sudweeks are teaching them.
So these kids MIGHT have a bit of behavior problems...some anger issues...a bit defiant...a little shady pasts with the law:
THEY DON'T NEED NOT THERAPY!!!!
Let's just teach them AVIATION! Let them fly those planes, and be FREE!!!
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Could the Suds and their friend the referral diva be BUZZING about and playing friendly with their use-to-be-declared-enemies the WWASPS????
But they all go way way back together, let's not forget that.
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Anyone heard if the State Fire Marshal has come back to Whitmore and completed his final inspection? Maybe some of the parents can stand FIRE WATCH when they come for "Parents Weekend." That can make them feel a PART OF THE SCHOOL!
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The parents with kids at Whitmore should be "up in arms" about the safety of thier kids at this "school." HOW can these parents have their heads so buried in the sand?
Why would any reputable school fight so hard to avoid licensing and regulation?
One that has a lot to hide, maybe?
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Hinton's deal at Kemper Academy fell thru---think Mark could call on his ex-WWASPie connections and hire Hinton to come-on-over to Whitmore and get these Whitmore kids a pilot's license?
Might have to ask Hinton to leave his pepper spray at home tho---
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It is actually simple: The Sudweeks must follow the law. If they offer therapy--whatever they choose to call it-- for the students, they must be licensed and regulated by the State of Utah. This is what the parents enrolling their children ask for, pay for and expect. It is simple. If the Sudweeks want to be in business, then they must follow the rules!
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The Sudweeks calling THERAPY "school counseling" can not avoid the State of Utah's therapeutic label, and Whitmore will be licensed and regulated....
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Perhaps if the Suds don't want to follow the rules set by the State of Utah, they could just move the Whitmore Academy to their locations in Canada or Mexico.
Are the Sud welcome in these two countries still?
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Don't think they want them in Canada or Mexico. They just might be thinking about Paraguay -- far away from the rules in the U.S., Canada and Mexico.
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Paraguay sounds like a nice place for the Sudweeks--JUST DON'T ALLOW THEM TO TAKE ANY KIDS WITH THEM!!! Now that's a solution!
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Whether or not Tweek and Peek like the "theapeutic label or not" they will have to be licensed and regulated, and follow the RULES...or close their doors. That is how it works. Simple as that.
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How are Tweek and Peek going to explain this "therapeutic label" to the parents at this PARENTS WEEKEND event? More of the same? Just tell the parents: "As long as we call it SCHOOL COUNSELING, we can get around the State Licensing issue, no problem!" And, the parents are going to pay BIG BUCKS and stand for this?
There are OTHER schools who follow the rules. These parents need to WAKE UP!
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Think Dr. Bernie Farrow could do a little TALK and explain the difference between COUNSELING and THERAPY????
Also--maybe this would be a good time for him to explain exactly why he and wife were fired from Cedar Mountain Academy...and exactly what his long-time connection to Sue Scheff and PURE is all about. It seems confusing.
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Suds need to get it! Therapy, including group therapy at Whitmore Academy = licensing and regulation! That's the deal.
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Suds gonna start calling GROUP THERAPY "meetings" sort of like AA MEETINGS or NA MEETINGS....ummmmm now that should fool Ken Stettler, now shouldn't IT?
NOW Cherly can rant and rave screaming:
MEETING MEETING MEETING instead of her usual
middle of the night: GROUP GROUP GROUP
Suds trying anything to get around the licensing and regulation of Whitmore.
NICE TRY, SUDS---but that won't wash!
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Group Group Group
MEETING MEETING MEETING
Gotta be licensed and regulated!!!
Won't matter tho will it??????
Soon my dear and whimp! Soon.
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The Suds may not like the "therapeutic label" but as long as Whitmore is open, that is the label they are going to have to live with. The writing is on the wall. The Whitmore WILL BE licensed and regulated!
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Sudweeks are not out of the woods on this issue, either. Not by a long shot!
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Is Dr.Bernie still conducting "therapy" at the Whitmore?
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The student who just went home from Whitmore says Dr. Bernie is still conducting therapy at Whitmore...but that he calls it "school counseling for legal reasons."
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Who do the Sudweeks think they are kidding? Even the kids know what is going on there!
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This former student reports that Cheryl doesn't "know she needs a license to conduct group therapy." Give me a break!
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Why all the legal fighting with Ken Stettler about the licensing situation if Cheryl Sudweeks is unaware of the legalities about having, or not having a License from the State of Utah if there is to be therapy going on at the Whitmore?
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Academics only boarding school. Simple. There should be no therapy, period.
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Cheryl: that means no GROUP GROUP GROUP!
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Former student: has Cheryl Sudweeks contacted you since you posted? That's her normal tactic.
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What's going on here?
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It seems the Sudweeks still don't like the state's "therapeutic" label
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Too bad, it is what it is!
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Last chance for GROUP GROUP GROUP!!!!!
Enjoy!
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Think the Suds will apply for the license? Those new guidelines are strict.
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Thought Cheryl liked talking to the media, but she seems to have stopped chatting, huh?