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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Scarstruck on April 07, 2005, 11:58:00 AM
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Some of you are locked into a game and dont even realize it.
20 some odd years ago, if you were abusive as a straight client/staffer you are probably playing or soon will be playing my game.
Its called Scarstrucks 2000 and beyond accountability game.
See I have about 6 friends on the boards who ferrett personal information for me. Some of you were dumb enough to give me your info.
I am very vindictive and dont appreciate the way some of you (about 17 yrs old then ) treated me (about 12 years old then)
The way the game works is I call agencies to get you in hot water for things you do today that are illegal. The statue has run out on straight stuff..true...but most of you can be ruined and exposed...and or arrested for things you do now.
Think Im bullshitting you? I have 2 ex straightlings in jail as we speak and am currently
having 2 CPS cases opened.
Just like group. I am the staff and the group are your employers, newspapers,girlfriends/boyfriends, and children.
I fight for the ones that can no longer fight. If you molested, hurt, abused, or just generally mindfucked people...chances are Im after you.
My tools are the internet, the phone,newspapers and your "friends"
I dont care how sorry you are or how much you've changed...or if youve been "cult deprogrammed". The game has started and will not stop.
Why then am I telling you the secret? Because frankly, so far this has been too easy and perhaps some of you may put a gurd up and actually make this a challenge.
When you are chosen as a player in my game, you probably wont know until its too late :scared:
:idea: Watch your backs.
(this game reserved for Richardson building Straightlings 1986 - 1990 only)
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umm, sS....umm, you spelled 'guard' rwong dyood. At least when yer tryin ta sound for serious and all like mean and vindictive you could make it be like correct grammer soundin or w/e. I mean, I was actually sorta not scared up until you spelled 'gurd' wrong. I don't ever put up my gurd for pertekshun. I leave it down. My gurd is down, my gurd is down!
No. Wait.
Now my gurd is up.
Dammit, arrgh, lost it. Now its down again. Where is that damm gurd gone to? Here gurdy gurdy. Here gurdy. You didn't mean gurdle did you? I lose that alot, too. If I put my gurdle up all the time for everyone to see, that would be silly. I leave my gurdle down alot.
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please clarify your terms, Scarstruck. otherwise it seems like a pretty dumb game. all of us "phasers" mindfucked each other at some point in time, unless we were total dedicated misbehavers. so what, we should all start going after each other? wouldn't the Semblers and the Newtons and all the Exec Crap Staff just love that? A bunch of no good Straightlings, calling the cops on each other.
that's probably not what you meant. that is serious, though, calling CPS on people. it better not be random vendetta, it better be serious child abuse that you know of first hand, or you are messing with children, getting the government involved, and that's just wrong.
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I guess now that the needle is gone Scar, you have to actually WORK to feel like a God.
Hmmm, better yet, forget all this revenge stuff and just get back to business with the smack. After all, no one changes nor do the deserve forgiveness or second chances right?
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Where?
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Texas.
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On 2005-04-07 19:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Texas."
Were you a client when it closed?
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No, not me.
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I was in St. Pete straight 13 years ago and knew people who were from Texas straight apparently because they shut it down. Just wondering.
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A person who experiences the intense humiliation and powerlessness of abuse can lash out in anger at being injured and violated. The experience of helplessness and victimization is disowned; this part of the self withdraws and cuts off in order to escape the agony of being shamed. The person fiercely defends against feelings of shame with anger and is unaware that it is the tacit underlying sense of worthlessness that is generating his or her bad feelings and maladaptive behavior.
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That last post was for you, SS
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The various states and the Federal Government have done the people a grave disservice with the Statute of Limitations bullshit. When people feel they have no other recourse to redress the wrongs done to them, they will take matters into their own hands. The crimes against us were severe and many. I am tired of hearing that justice or redress or compensation is impossible. If it is impossible, then what do they expect from the victims of such heinous crimes. The perpetrators of the crimes against us are in positions of comfort and power. Those of us who recall our unjust imprisonment and humiliation are enraged. Recalling the faces, for example, of the cop-outs who were returned and endured the abuse out of sight in the intake rooms*, well, that Mel Riddile can be named Principal of the Year and NEVER HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT HE DID... it is intolerable.
*H.F., I think about you.
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I agree with FKA, threatening to take peoples kids and put them into the governmental system after your experience with straight is not cool.
Yes the statute of limitations is up but that applies to *Straight* anyways, not the kids IN straight. If you really want revenge from straight but can't get it, maybe you could go after some of the places still open? There are plenty of them you could still do some harm, even if it's not Straight, Inc.
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On 2005-04-08 08:37:00, free wrote:
"I was in St. Pete straight 13 years ago and knew people who were from Texas straight apparently because they shut it down. Just wondering."
yes...straight, irving/dallas closed in october of 91'....luckily, i had walked just a few months prior, but others were sent to other locations
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On 2005-04-08 14:41:00, fka wrote:
"The various states and the Federal Government have done the people a grave disservice with the Statute of Limitations bullshit. When people feel they have no other recourse to redress the wrongs done to them, they will take matters into their own hands. The crimes against us were severe and many. I am tired of hearing that justice or redress or compensation is impossible. If it is impossible, then what do they expect from the victims of such heinous crimes. The perpetrators of the crimes against us are in positions of comfort and power. Those of us who recall our unjust imprisonment and humiliation are enraged. Recalling the faces, for example, of the cop-outs who were returned and endured the abuse out of sight in the intake rooms*, well, that Mel Riddile can be named Principal of the Year and NEVER HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT HE DID... it is intolerable.
*H.F., I think about you."
right on....hey there's a few i will remember...both staff and clients.....staff knows who they are, but the client i will neverr forget is a girl named nicole.....if i ever see her again...i will spit snotspit in her hair...it wuld be worth the trip to jail....hehe
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Groovy, can you spit snotspit in my hair? Sounds hot.
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So now, after all these years, your highest aspiration is to become a fucking ass kissing, snitching, soulless 5th phase mind fucker? ::noway::
Our nada who art in nada, nada be thy name. Thy kingdom nada, thy will be nada as it is in nada. Give us this nada our daily nada and nada us our nada as we nada our nadas and nada us into nada but deliver us from nada; pues nada. Hail nothing full of nothing, nothing is with thee.
--Ernest Hemingway, American author
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I recall the meanest girl phasers. They got me when I was stood up, but in general I escaped the full force of their wrath. Cleverly, Straight got children to perform their abuse against other children. Although I might feel anger toward individual girls, I truly have zero desire to see any of them suffer further, as i imagine they must feel embarassed at the very least for the way they acted in there. They were pawns and used TERRIBLY -- to encourage and reward them for abusing other girls in the intake rooms is really a terrible form of abuse that we don't even talk about that much around here.
When I am talking about the inability to redress wrong through the justice system, I am NOT talking about phasers therefore feeling justified in going after each other in the present time, and thank you for bringing to my attention that my previous post could have been misconstrued to mean that, Antigen.
Yes I have said before that I feel responsible for my own actions in Straight, and I apologize to anyone in there in my time whom I hurt, and hope and imagine others would do the same. That would make us all better than the true perpetrators of the crimes...
There is a blind rage that I feel at times toward the people who were in charge. However, as Nietzsche said, whoever fights monsters should be careful that he does not become one... The best of what the Justice System can do is provide a venue for seeking redress of wrongs, so that we do not become engaged in destructive violence.
I posted what I did about the Statute of Limitations because I think it is accurate, when people feel they have no other recourse they often turn to violence.
Alternatives:
1. venting here
2. working to rescind the Statute of Limitations
3. seeking justice in the court of public opinion by outing the TRUE perpetrators of the crimes -- that is, the people in power, the owners, the board, the executive staff, the people who knew they were using thought reform techniques, NOT THE CHILDREN.
4. working to change this society so that the form of abuse against children that we all know so painfully becomes completely unacceptable in society. "domestic violence" did not become a topic in our society until about the 1970s -- we should work to expose institutionalized child abuse and bring it front and center in the consciousness of this society in the same way so that it is visible and understood to be unacceptable. (SHAME on "Dr." Phil!)
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Call it what you like ...Its taken me 15 years to be able to look people in there eyes..My self esteem was destroyed.
And then people like Jennifer Loar come out and say "ooh Im so sorry I did that ...Ive been deprogrammed lets be friends"
Well ya know what? That isnt good enough.I am using any legal means I have to destroy ..your life as you know it. Im not breaking the law...Im not physically assaulting anyone nor am I stalking or contacting these people.
Im merely exposing them.
No its not "OK now" Its not over and you arent in the clear.You fucked with the wrong person. I watched you turn normal kids into suicidal catatonics. Like Vance Huds*n ...he had a good heart and was good guy ...by the time I left straight he just stared at the wall for months...dead inside.
He commited suicide by the way and may he RIP.
My list is limited...to about 7 people 6 of which dont know whats going on and wont till its too late.One if which is incarcerated and Im only beginning to ruin.
Your opinions dont matter to me at all...in fact I skipped over the replies. 99 % of the time I post I dont check back for responses.
If you know me from straight, and were abusive...chances are Im gonna pull your linchpin.
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On 2005-04-09 08:35:00, Scarstruck wrote:
That isnt good enough.I am using any legal means I have to destroy ..your life as you know it. Im not breaking the law...Im not physically assaulting anyone nor am I stalking or contacting these people.
No, you're just hiding behind an anonymous 1-800-bea-snitch hotline, sending up a coc on them.
Snitches SUCK!A free man must be able to endure it when his fellow men act and live otherwise than he considers proper. He must free himself from the habit, just as soon as something does not please him, of calling for the police.
Ludwig Von Mises
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On 2005-04-09 08:35:00, Scarstruck wrote:
"You fucked with the wrong person. I watched you turn normal kids into suicidal catatonics."
Who is "you"? The people pulling everyone's strings, or their puppets?
I don't think there are many 15 and 16 year olds in this world who somehow just know how to completely psychologically devestate another person. I think it is more complicated than what the normal teenager would ever come up with. Probably people who have tried systematically to get the results they got in straight, or learned how to from reading books. I can understand being angry, but to think the kids were fully aware, even responsible, for what was going on is hard to believe.
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yeah, that's why i asked Scarstruck to clarify his terms. If he is going after abusive former staff, he is doing nothing different than what people do with Newton which is try to bust him in the present time for what they can. if he is going after people who were children at the time, themselves victims of Straight's sadistic tactics, it seems way over the line.
i do appreciate his deep empathy for the people he is talking about like Vance.
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me again
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On 2005-04-08 19:00:00, fka wrote:
"I recall the meanest girl phasers. They got me when I was stood up, but in general I escaped the full force of their wrath. Cleverly, Straight got children to perform their abuse against other children. Although I might feel anger toward individual girls, I truly have zero desire to see any of them suffer further, as i imagine they must feel embarassed at the very least for the way they acted in there. They were pawns and used TERRIBLY -- to encourage and reward them for abusing other girls in the intake rooms is really a terrible form of abuse that we don't even talk about that much around here.
When I am talking about the inability to redress wrong through the justice system, I am NOT talking about phasers therefore feeling justified in going after each other in the present time, and thank you for bringing to my attention that my previous post could have been misconstrued to mean that, Antigen.
Yes I have said before that I feel responsible for my own actions in Straight, and I apologize to anyone in there in my time whom I hurt, and hope and imagine others would do the same. That would make us all better than the true perpetrators of the crimes...
There is a blind rage that I feel at times toward the people who were in charge. However, as Nietzsche said, whoever fights monsters should be careful that he does not become one... The best of what the Justice System can do is provide a venue for seeking redress of wrongs, so that we do not become engaged in destructive violence.
I posted what I did about the Statute of Limitations because I think it is accurate, when people feel they have no other recourse they often turn to violence.
Alternatives:
1. venting here
2. working to rescind the Statute of Limitations
3. seeking justice in the court of public opinion by outing the TRUE perpetrators of the crimes -- that is, the people in power, the owners, the board, the executive staff, the people who knew they were using thought reform techniques, NOT THE CHILDREN.
4. working to change this society so that the form of abuse against children that we all know so painfully becomes completely unacceptable in society. "domestic violence" did not become a topic in our society until about the 1970s -- we should work to expose institutionalized child abuse and bring it front and center in the consciousness of this society in the same way so that it is visible and understood to be unacceptable. (SHAME on "Dr." Phil!)"
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There is NO Statute of Limitations on child abuse.
I recently saw a news show (can't remember title; discovery channel or something) that featured a man in his 30's who successfully filed charges and convicted a man for molesting him as a child.
criminal = no statute of limitations
civil = statute of limitations
It might be too late to sue,
but it's not to late to press charges.
Read up and research.
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huh. last i looked into it, there was no S.O.L. on felony crimes in VA. however, there were S.O.L.s in Florida and I think in Texas too.
if you are correct, what has been the hold up then? I don't get it.
as for "Read up and research", I am trying but it gets confusing.
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Yes, very confusing. A criminal charge has to be a specfic crime commited by a specfic person with some kind of evidence. Sometimes a victoms testamony will surfice.
I think hold ups are due to the mass differences in motives of people.
some are working for
Political reasons
Money
Justice
Revenge
A better world
Something to do because their bored
Some are lonley
Who knows???? I don't...........
Plus there's state laws
and federal laws
lots to study.
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On 2005-04-09 10:36:00, Antigen wrote:
No, you're just hiding behind an anonymous 1-800-bea-snitch hotline, sending up a coc on them.
:nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
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On 2005-04-09 14:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"yeah, that's why i asked Scarstruck to clarify his terms. If he is going after abusive former staff, he is doing nothing different than what people do with Newton which is try to bust him in the present time for what they can. if he is going after people who were children at the time, themselves victims of Straight's sadistic tactics, it seems way over the line.
i do appreciate his deep empathy for the people he is talking about like Vance. "
I don't draw the line in the same place, or even nearly that shape at all. The only reason I have any interest at all in what Virgil or Mel or Calvina are up to these days is because I'm convinced that they're still working the same cause.
If you want to talk about firsthand/seconhand experience w/ sadistic SOBs, I'd say Charles Pendergrast comes pretty near the top of the list for me. Then there's that mindfucker, Chris Casselor, who did an awful lot of damage.
I understand that Charles is selling automatic garage doors for a living down around Naples or Ft. Meyers somewhere and Chris was last seen playing piano in some seedy bar for tips.
I don't care what happened 20 years ago, so long as they've found a new line of work.
That's where and how I draw the line.
"The FARC is part of the history of Colombia and a historical phenomenon", (President Pastrana) says, "and they must be treated as Colombians". ... They come and ask for bread [aid from Washington], and you give them stones.
Robert White is a former American ambassador to Paraguay and El Salvador, and former No. 2 man with the U.S. Embassy in Bogota, is president of the Centre for International Policy in Washington D.C.
Robert White
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On 2005-04-09 17:18:00, Antigen wrote:
"The only reason I have any interest at all in what Virgil or Mel or Calvina are up to these days is because I'm convinced that they're still working the same cause."
Adamantly disagree. Newton is a child abusing scum who should spend the rest of his days in prison. He should die in a prison cell.
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I don't disagree w/ that. The thing is, I really don't give a shit about him one way or the other. I do care if he has influence over people now. It bugs me more to think of some parent group reading his books like scriptures and acting on his sage advice to permanently fuck up their kids a WHOLE lot more than it bugs me to think he might have a good day once in awhile. Except, of course, that a "good day" for him is one when he gets to make someone suffer.
Locate the blind spot in the culture--the place where the culture isn't looking, because it dare not--because if it were to look there, its previous values would dissolve.
Terence McKenna
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:question: :???:
"There is NO Statute of Limitations on child abuse.
I recently saw a news show (can't remember title; discovery channel or something) that featured a man in his 30's who successfully filed charges and convicted a man for molesting him as a child.
criminal = no statute of limitations
civil = statute of limitations
It might be too late to sue,
but it's not to late to press charges.
Read up and research."
This is not true. It varies from state to state. Here in NY there IS a criminal statute of limitations on all crimes save for murder.
However, since these places often have "clients" from different states, there may be an opening in FEDERAL court under title 18 "conspiracy" under which there is no statute of limitations.
You will definitely need to check your particular state laws and the laws of the state in which you were abused.
Anyway, good luck and I sincerely hope you find success. These fuckers should pay.
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On 2005-04-09 17:18:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-04-09 14:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"yeah, that's why i asked Scarstruck to clarify his terms. If he is going after abusive former staff, he is doing nothing different than what people do with Newton which is try to bust him in the present time for what they can. if he is going after people who were children at the time, themselves victims of Straight's sadistic tactics, it seems way over the line.
i do appreciate his deep empathy for the people he is talking about like Vance. "
I don't draw the line in the same place, or even nearly that shape at all. The only reason I have any interest at all in what Virgil or Mel or Calvina are up to these days is because I'm convinced that they're still working the same cause.
If you want to talk about firsthand/seconhand experience w/ sadistic SOBs, I'd say Charles Pendergrast comes pretty near the top of the list for me. Then there's that mindfucker, Chris Casselor, who did an awful lot of damage.
I understand that Charles is selling automatic garage doors for a living down around Naples or Ft. Meyers somewhere and Chris was last seen playing piano in some seedy bar for tips.
I don't care what happened 20 years ago, so long as they've found a new line of work.
That's where and how I draw the line.
"The FARC is part of the history of Colombia and a historical phenomenon", (President Pastrana) says, "and they must be treated as Colombians". ... They come and ask for bread [aid from Washington], and you give them stones.
Robert White is a former American ambassador to Paraguay and El Salvador, and former No. 2 man with the U.S. Embassy in Bogota, is president of the Centre for International Policy in Washington D.C.
Robert White
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I agree with Anitgen.
It's the bigger choice to fight against what is still being perpetrated against kids TODAY. Rather than fighting for self serving revenge.
Last I checked.....the majority of former phasers and staff, at least the ones from Dallas, are no longer in positions where they are abusing kids. There are a lot of jack-asses out there who ARE.
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Except, of course, that a "good day" for him is one when he gets to make someone suffer.
You've got that right!
Nothing like watching a druggie pay for his or her sins!
Their screams are like music to my ears...
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On 2005-04-10 16:21:00, Carmel wrote:
"It's the bigger choice to fight against what is still being perpetrated against kids TODAY. Rather than fighting for self serving revenge."
The reality is, there just isn't any closure for a lot of us with the criminals still at large and justice undone. Revenge, or wishing for revenge, is what we are left with when justice is gone...
'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice.
And when justice is gone, there's always force.
And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!
So hold me, Mom, in your long arms. So hold me,
Mom, in your long arms.
In your automatic arms. Your electronic arms.
In your arms.
So hold me, Mom, in your long arms.
Your petrochemical arms. Your military arms.
In your electronic arms.
laurie anderson, o superman, from big science[ This Message was edited by: fka on 2005-04-10 18:58 ]
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On 2005-04-10 18:57:00, fka wrote:
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On 2005-04-10 16:21:00, Carmel wrote:
"It's the bigger choice to fight against what is still being perpetrated against kids TODAY. Rather than fighting for self serving revenge."
The reality is, there just isn't any closure for a lot of us with the criminals still at large and justice undone. Revenge, or wishing for revenge, is what we are left with when justice is gone...
'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice.
And when justice is gone, there's always force.
And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom!
So hold me, Mom, in your long arms. So hold me,
Mom, in your long arms.
In your automatic arms. Your electronic arms.
In your arms.
So hold me, Mom, in your long arms.
Your petrochemical arms. Your military arms.
In your electronic arms.
laurie anderson, o superman, from big science[ This Message was edited by: fka on 2005-04-10 18:58 ]"
I completely understand, hence, the bigger choice. Meaning the harder one to make. But I think ultimately, the more productive one.
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What? ..
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yeah, if i had to choose between getting justice for the Straight crimes, or closing down the remaining Straight spawns (Kids Helping Kids, AARC, Pathways Family Center, Growing Together, SAFE -- tell me if I forgot one), I would choose to close down the remaining Straights (and watch them like hawks so they don't reopen). i'm not certain it has to be a choice between the two, but for now I am putting what time and energy i can into the latter.
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On 2005-04-10 19:57:00, fka wrote:
"yeah, if i had to choose between getting justice for the Straight crimes, or closing down the remaining Straight spawns (Kids Helping Kids, AARC, Pathways Family Center, Growing Together, SAFE -- tell me if I forgot one), I would choose to close down the remaining Straights (and watch them like hawks so they don't reopen). i'm not certain it has to be a choice between the two, but for now I am putting what time and energy i can into the latter."
I would have to agree. We "survived" Newton and his ilk, and it is doubtful he'll be reopening a drug rehab anytime soon, but there are still a lot of fucked up places that are abusing and torturing kids, swindling and ripping off their families, and generally fucking with people in a very sick way for fun and profit. Revenge against my personal favorite fuckheads would be nice, and I'd like to have both, but if I had to choose, I'd let go of the revenge (goddamn, that's hard to say) and go for shutting down the TCs that still exist.
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Revenge against my personal favorite fuckheads would be nice, and I'd like to have both, but if I had to choose, I'd let go of the revenge (goddamn, that's hard to say) and go for shutting down the TCs that still exist.
Ever thrown a meat cleaver into someone's forehead? ::stab::
Don't sell yourself short, Druggie Friend- you only live once!