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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: If u want to know..then a on February 23, 2005, 06:29:00 PM
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I really wish that the majority of the people posting on here were at BCA during my time. (96-99) This was when a very powerful, passionate, HONEST, and loving man named Jackson Culotta ran the school. I don't know if anyone ever heard the saying "I would never ask you to do something I haven't done or am not willing to do myself". This was a very popular phrase, but Jackson really lived by this. The school was filled with NOTHING but drug addicts, alcoholics, VERY promisicous girls, etc. None of the kids that "couldn't make friends" were there. There were depressed kids there who wanted to cut on themselves, but Jack wouldn't have that! I just get sad when I hear stories about staff that I did know acting in a way that they never did when I was there, or new staff coming in and obviously not knowing how to deal with people in a social setting. I am truly sorry for anything traumatic that ANY of these staff members did to you, but please know that at one point of time, the man running BCA was there to serve a purpose. By the way, they fired him! Why? No one knows for sure. :???: But LaTresa was his assistant and then became the head of the school! BAD IDEA!!! I am guessing that this was when the scheming really began and the school definately took a turn for the worse![ This Message was edited by: If u want to know..then ask on 2005-02-23 15:34 ]
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Dude, i went to RMA, which by the way now no longer exists but, that was next to BCA and we all thought BCA was just a bunch of social retards, is that true?
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no, there were some cool people there. but with every school there are always some people that have no common sense and shit like that. I think the gossip that went between RMA and BCA was like playing telephone. By the time someone else hears it, it is all distorted. Some fucced up things DID happen, but it wasn't that serious! I know I'm NOT a social retard. Ha Ha!
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Is your incredibly crass and generalizing comment by any chance your small-petty way of slamming the person made the reasonable balanced and insightful post before yours??
Yeah there's a lot of "social retards" out there--in lots of places---obviously your post shows that---so apparently at the very least we know that you can get to be a "social retard" without going to BCA since you didn't
Poster before you sounds like a nice reasonable type so I guess we can also say that all BCA students are not "social retards"
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I appreciate the "back-up", but that was the KEY problem between RMA and BCA, the staff members used to talk a lot of crap about the opposite school! So, although it sounds offensive, I really don't think they were trying to be mean or vicious! Or WERE you?! ::mecry::
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yo.. fuck rma...
where my bca niggaz at?
j/k
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On 2005-02-23 15:29:00, If u want to know..then ask wrote:
"I really wish that the majority of the people posting on here were at BCA during my time. (96-99) This was when a very powerful, passionate, HONEST, and loving man named Jackson Culotta ran the school. I don't know if anyone ever heard the saying "I would never ask you to do something I haven't done or am not willing to do myself". This was a very popular phrase, but Jackson really lived by this. The school was filled with NOTHING but drug addicts, alcoholics, VERY promisicous girls, etc. None of the kids that "couldn't make friends" were there. There were depressed kids there who wanted to cut on themselves, but Jack wouldn't have that! I just get sad when I hear stories about staff that I did know acting in a way that they never did when I was there, or new staff coming in and obviously not knowing how to deal with people in a social setting. I am truly sorry for anything traumatic that ANY of these staff members did to you, but please know that at one point of time, the man running BCA was there to serve a purpose. By the way, they fired him! Why? No one knows for sure. :???: But LaTresa was his assistant and then became the head of the school! BAD IDEA!!! I am guessing that this was when the scheming really began and the school definately took a turn for the worse![ This Message was edited by: If u want to know..then ask on 2005-02-23 15:34 ]"
I would like to say this is BS. Point 1, if you ask me he was one of the staff who I questioned his motives and methods the most. There is a difference between passionate and abusive. I saw him take a flying leap over that line several times.
In terms of the school filled with drug addicts, alcoholics, permiscuous girls etc, yes there were those aspects but that was not 100% of the population, I would say that would be a minority. BTW i didnt fall into any of those categories.
I was ther from 95-98
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On 2005-02-23 16:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dude, i went to RMA, which by the way now no longer exists but, that was next to BCA and we all thought BCA was just a bunch of social retards, is that true?
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No, I don't know how that whole crap got started. most likely has something to do with the fact that there was a farm there (and yes some of the stories that followed). I first attended BCA then got transfered to RMA.
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Well, opinions are definately a good thing. Everyone had their own experience. When I knew Jack, I knew him to be who I said he was. If you had a different experience then that is all there is to it. You can't really say that someone else's experience is bullshit, just because you didn't feel the same way. Like, I said, that was the majority of the people who were there when I was, and the majority of the time only people who were friends knew their TRUE problems.
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I know who you are talking about. He was the headmaster at Cascade School from April 2000 until summer 2001. And I'm sorry if you felt that he was a decent person, because my experience with him was the complete opposite. Cascade had at least some structure before he arrived, and he totally demolished any faith that anyone had in the school. He fired some wonderful staff for no reason other then he didn't get along with them, and they didn't agree with the horrible things he did. One of the oldest staff there (who used to work at CEDU high) "retired" because he couldn't stand the way Jack was running the school. He later came back after Jack was fired. I am trying not to cuss when I talk about him, but it's definately not easy. He was the #1 worst staff there ever.
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yes. that was after they let him go from BCA. Unfortunately he probably did have a huge chip on his shoulder after he was fired. I am sorry you experienced that with him. I also think, (from talking with one of my old friends from BCA) that he had a soft spot for girls without dads. And that was me. So that is probably why I never got to see any of that. I am sorry he made things worse at your school. :cry:
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I was also at Cascade when Jack was Headmaster and i liked him a lot, he was a sweet man who made me feel safe and cared about. he was definetly a father figure to me durring his time there. I think everyone has a right to feel what they want but i dont agree.
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Jack was a wonderful man. He was probably my favorite staff at bca. i was there from 96-99. i always felt like he genuinely cared about every single person at that school. he was completely honest with you about everything. he was the best team leader of the best team (mountain lions!!!!). he is one of the very few people i would actually like to keep in touch with. i heard he is working at a school in south carolina.
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Actually, he is no longer with Cherokee Creek Boys School in South Carolina. He is now the Director of Business Development for Confident Living, INC. in Boulder, CO. I do not know this man or even know what he looks like (his latest employer has not included his photo with the rest of the staff) but I will give you the timeline of his career that I have managed to piece together.
?-? - Headmaster of Boulder Creek Academy (1)
?-? - Executive Director for the Northwest Region of CEDU (1)
June 14, 2000-September 27, 2001 - Headmaster at Cascade School , in Whitmore, California (1)(2)(3)
?-? - Consultant to Coronado Academy, Costa Rica (9)
November, 2002-November 8, 2003 - Headmaster, Co-Founder, and Owner of Cherokee Creek Boys School, Westminster, South Carolina (1)(4)(5)(6)(7)
?-? - Director of Resident Life at Brandon Hall School, Atlanta, GA (9)
October, 2004-? - Director of Business Development for Confident Living, INC, Boulder, CO (8)(9)
(1) "Leadership Staff" --- http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:zG ... r=&strip=1 (http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:zGvy115TCd4J:www.cherokeecreek.net/html/eblast-template.html+%22Jackson+Culotta%22&hl=en&lr=&strip=1)
(2) "Seen 'n Heard, 2000.07 - Page 2" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een02.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/7/seen02.html)
(3) "Seen 'n Heard, 2001.10 -Page 2" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een02.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2001/10/seen02.html)
(4) "Seen 'n Heard, 2002.12.24" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... heard.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2002/12/dec02seennheard.html)
(5) "New Perspectives, 2003.05.14 - Cherokee Creek Boys School" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... eeknp.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2003/5/cherokeecreeknp.html)
(6) "Seen 'n Heard, 2003.09.23" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... heard.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2003/9/sep03seennheard.html)
(7) "Seen 'n Heard, 2003.12.03" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... heard.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2003/12/dec03seennheard.html)
(8) "Seen 'n Heard, 2004.12.06" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... heard.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2004/12/dec04seennheard.html)
(9) "About Confident Living: The Staff" --- http://www.confidentlivinginc.com/whoweare.html (http://www.confidentlivinginc.com/whoweare.html)
I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could help me fill in the dates for his time at CEDU or the other organizations.
Thanks, John
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He was my teamleader before he was headmaster at BCA
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HMMM... He is listed at Cherokee Creek Boys School as co-founder and headmaster but lists that he was an "interm headmaster" in his bio for his new job at Confident Living? Is there something he doesn't want his new employer to know?
He wasn't a consultant at Coronado...hired as a teacher and "left"? after 3 months...
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Much of the reason for failure at RMA was financial. When the Brown Schools bought CEDU from Mel they discovered that what they were sold and what they got were not one and the same. They over paid grossly for the product and needed to find a way to be fiscally responsible. Tragically the uninspired answer is to cut back...on staff, on services. That may be good in the short-term on paper but the human toll is tremendous. Cutting staff saves money but is terrible for morale..."am I next?" No one feels safe. You can't help kids if you're worrying about your job. Good people were let go...others left...newcomers and less qualified people are left to save the ship. It doesn;t work that way. You're only as good as your weakest link...too many weak links , too much cutting of the program, and not enough money to do it right. You can't fool the customer for long...and when it is children's lives involved the word gets out fast. Once the confidence of consultants and parents is compromised it is a very big battle to get it back.
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Rachel is that you?
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Damn Rachel! Who is talking to you on here? Someone obviously knows it you! HA HA! :lol:
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yeah it's me, what? :wave:
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It's Frances! How are you?
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Jack did my Peer Group's--Peer Group 61--Brother's Keeper Propheet. I always thought that the guy was solid. He was one of the staff that I never felt power tripped or went overboard. He was just a caring, well-meaning guy. His wife was also my parent communicator, so I knew them pretty well. I vouch for the guy big time.
Adam Best 1994-96 RMA (PG61)
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I also knew Jack. He was my team leader at RMA before he went to BCA. I always knew him as a very caring man who truely want to help kids
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yeah jack helped kids alright, that is, he helped them get undressed! the guy was a pedophilic freak for fucks sake, what the hell is wrong with you people?!!!
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BCA was where the put all the REALLY fucked up kids. It was the lowest school on the totem pole at CEDU. It WAS where the "Social Retards" went. It was the brunt of all the jokes at NWA, and I bet RMA had their fair share of ripping on BCA too. Face it, if you went to BCA, you were really fucked in the head.
But then again, if you went to CEDU at all, you were pretty fucked up to begin with.
But facts still stand, BCA was where the totally fucked people went.
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Fuckin' right we were totally fucked up and crazy. That's why you punks stayed away from us at Ascent. You knew if you fucked with us we'd piss in your water bottle or smother you on course. Believe me, we had our jokes about you smush-loving, hippie queers up at NWA.
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At least we didn't fuck chickens and goats. Hell we were by far the most normal CEDU school in Idaho. When parents went to CEDU with their kids, the kids who were just bad kids went to RMA, the kids who just couldn't make any friends went to NWA and the kids who wanted to kill themselves and everyone around them went to BCA. Believe me, I would rather be a smoosh-loving hippie than a goat fucker who wanted to slit their wrists.
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Haha yeah we had some fucked up kids at BCA. I remember the goat fucker. When they told me at Ascent I was going to BCA, everyone in my course group offered to get me a cork.
But RMA kids were worse than BCA kids. They had all the wrist-slitting goat fuckers we had, but then the rest of them were angry, uncontrollable sons of bitches.
And with all the goat fuckers around me busy cutting on themselves, it was nice to be able to slip by unnoticed.
You hippie douchebag piece of shit.
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So basically you were a dumbass hippie who couldn't make any friends? And that made you better than BCA kids somehow?
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That absolutely makes me better than some goat fucking suicidal kid. I'd much rather be known as a hippie who couldn't make friends than a freak. At least hippies smoke joints, dance around in circles and listen to good music. I'm sure you at BCA were into Pantera and Megadeath, while we at NWA were into Dave Matthews and The Beatles. So you decide which was worse.
But again, ask your parents or read the description of the differences between BCA and NWA or NWA and RMA for that matter. You'll see NWA was the most "Normal" of all the Idaho schools, but still it wasn't THAT normal.
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Pantera and Megadeath? Actually, I'd rather listen to Pantera than that fagget Dave Matthews anyday. But nah, you don't have us figured out very well.
But none of that shit matters to me, I'm an athlete. And I remember kicking the shit out of you little NWA chumps in every sport. We owned you in basketball, we owned you on the soccer field...we owned RMA in baseball too but you guys didn't know how to swing a bat. It's all good...baseball's a man 's sport.
And the girls were the suicidal ones man. Not the dudes. Well, haha, a couple of dudes. Only suicide at CEDU I ever heard of was at RMA. But hey, I'm sure there was a cutter or two up at NWA. And if you guys were so happy and free, dancing in your circles, what the fuck was up with those riots?
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Hey, I'm not saying we were happy and free. Dude we did have our fair share of fucked up kids. Those "Riots" were totally blown out of proportion. A few kids went outside after "Lights Out" and played basketball. When they refused to come in, the powers that be called in escorts.
As far as kicking our asses in sports, I never recall EVER playing BCA or RMA in anything but soccer. And the soccer was part of the Sandpoint Soccer League. And we fucking destroyed RMA, BCA didn't have a team.
Face it, you guys were the most fucked up people there. Both RMA and NWA made fun of BCA. Trust me.
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They stopped filtering kids like that into the 3 schools in the late 90's. But before that, BCA had been the place for the kids with no social skills, RMA had been kids with more serious (ie. drug and legal) problems, and I suppose they just tossed the rest in with NWA. Eventually though, BCA and RMA got pretty much the same kids. Unofficially they had been doing it like that for awhile, but then the top dogs made it official that they were throwing away that whole filtering system. NWA just turned into a 17+ year old, accelerated program.
But when I was there, which was well before the NWA/RMA campus switch, NWA had a basketball team and a soccer team, and both BCA and RMA, the bigger schools, had soccer, basketball and baseball. From 1999-2002, BCA swept the floor with NWA and RMA in basketball and soccer. RMA got good towards the end actually and won once in soccer. NWA was really terrible, I played soccer and we beat them 5-1 the day after RMA beat them 8-1.
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Bullshit! Fuck that! When I was at NWA there were no Baseball and no Basketball teams. All there was was the Sandpoint adult soccer league and NWA did really good. We kicked the shit out of you faggots and most of Sandpoint. I was on the team so I would know.
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Haha, dick, when the fuck were you there? Bet it was ages before me. There was always a basketball team at BCA and RMA, and I think they played NWA too. You guys had a baseball diamond at NWA, but no team? But NWA wasn't playing in any adult league. There's no sense defending the NWA teams we played. They really were fucking terrible. RMA and BCA played in tournaments in Canada, but NWA didn't do shit. We played RMA a few times in baseball. We had some really good athletes there during those years, that's all I can say.
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There was no Basketball team at RMA man. Who the fuck did they play? The Bonners Ferry High team? Even if there was a team and it was semi-organized, you still couldn't call it a "Team." It was just a bunch of dudes getting together to play basketball against one another, and maybe play BCA. No way you played in the Idaho High School basketball league. So you're wrong, there was no official "Team." As far as baseball teams were concerned, I know there weren't any of those either. Yeah, we had a baseball diamond at NWA, but there but no team. Like I said earlier, the only official "Team" that I ever knew about was the NWA soccer team who played in an official Sandpoint adult league. Yes, we did play in an adult league. I played on the fucking team, so don't go telling me what I know and what I don't know asshole. You played tournaments in Canada? What sport?!
There were never any high school caliber sports teams at any of the Idaho schools ever. Even the NWA soccer team that played with Sandpoint people wasn't a "Real" soprts team. It was more of a club sport than anything else.
My point still stands. BCA was the joke of the Idaho schools. You guys had all the weirdest kids there and did all the weirdest things. Weren't you not allowed to have ice cubes at one point. God what a bunch of candy asses you were.
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I could care less about your point, but you gotta get your fuckin' facts straight about the sports before you start poppin' off like that. Our soccer "club" played in tournaments in Idaho and Canada. Outside of tournaments, we had an 8 game schedule against a few Canadian and a couple local teams, as well as 3 games a season each against RMA and NWA. We weren't a league-sanctioned team, but we were more than just semi-organized. We practiced together four times a week, and did our fuckin' thing.
RMA and BCA both had basketball teams. I don't give a fuck what they did at RMA, but we played them a few times, and we played local JV teams from small schools. Call them scrimmages if you like, but even the basketball team played in a couple tournaments.
And like I said, baseball was just for kicks against RMA. But who gives a fuck whether they were real leagues or not, we smoked you both! So you're wrong. Fuck, I still have my jersey from the soccer team jackass. [ This Message was edited by: dniceo7 on 2005-11-03 14:20 ]
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Right, you weren't a league sanctioned soccer team. We were! You played against some asshole rednecks in town, while we played in official leagues with real people who played real soccer, and we did pretty damn good for some high school kids.
As far as basketball, you said it yourself: games were more like scrimages.
So your sports teams sucked, just like your school.
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Are you ignorant? Can you just not read my words? We played real teams. In Canada, in tournaments. Adult sanctioned leagues in Sandpoint? Bro, you played the asshole rednecks in town, not us. We played Cranbrook HS, Creston, a couple of club teams from Calgary, and some of those shitty towns like Priest Lake and Kellogg; all high school kids, not a bunch of beer league, tractor pullin' meth heads. And we did pretty well for ourselves. In fact, I'm pretty confident I could handle you on the field any day.
Anyways man I'm tired of explaining this to you, so uh, eat a dick fairy. [ This Message was edited by: dniceo7 on 2005-11-03 14:42 ]
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you don't know shit you cocksucker
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There were never any high school caliber sports teams at any of the Idaho schools ever. Even the NWA soccer team that played with Sandpoint people wasn't a "Real" soprts team. It was more of a club sport than anything else.
I disagree with this. I was at RMA/BCA from 95-98, and was on the soccer team that played many local schools, we did very good.
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since when did club sports lose their real sports status? what the fuck - club sports were always the better teams, especially in soccer.
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On 2005-11-03 14:42:00, dniceo7 wrote:
"Are you ignorant? Can you just not read my words? We played real teams. In Canada, in tournaments. Adult sanctioned leagues in Sandpoint? Bro, you played the asshole rednecks in town, not us. We played Cranbrook HS, Creston, a couple of club teams from Calgary, and some of those shitty towns like Priest Lake and Kellogg; all high school kids, not a bunch of beer league, tractor pullin' meth heads. And we did pretty well for ourselves. In fact, I'm pretty confident I could handle you on the field any day.
Anyways man I'm tired of explaining this to you, so uh, eat a dick fairy. [ This Message was edited by: dniceo7 on 2005-11-03 14:42 ]"
He's right on. In 1995-96 I played basketball for Coach Scott Riggenbach and played in roughly 15 games including 2 3-game tournaments. I have a fucking all-tournament team trophy from a tourney in Furney, B.C. that I am looking at right now. It was real, it really happened. Sure we didn't play a full schedule and played several J.V. teams (including Bonner's Ferry), but we also played Varsity (several games and the two tournaments--Creston and Furney).
Also, I played soccer as well. We had quite a few games. I did cross country. We went to a half-dozen meets. There were sports teams there. Sure, we took a backseat to the E.G., but we competed against real high schools and usually faired pretty well. We actually lost in the championship game of the Funrey Tournament in Winter 1996, which means we got second place.
RMA was always pretty cool about allowing me to do these things. We left campus every Sunday morning to have actual practice at a gym in Bonner's too. Sports were taken fairly serious by those of us who played them there (and afterwards).
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An old post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8399#p84670) near the beginning of this thread (2005):
Actually, he is no longer with Cherokee Creek Boys School in South Carolina. He is now the Director of Business Development for Confident Living, INC. in Boulder, CO. I do not know this man or even know what he looks like (his latest employer has not included his photo with the rest of the staff) but I will give you the timeline of his career that I have managed to piece together.
?-? - Headmaster of Boulder Creek Academy (1)
?-? - Executive Director for the Northwest Region of CEDU (1)
June 14, 2000-September 27, 2001 - Headmaster at Cascade School , in Whitmore, California (1)(2)(3)
?-? - Consultant to Coronado Academy, Costa Rica (9)
November, 2002-November 8, 2003 - Headmaster, Co-Founder, and Owner of Cherokee Creek Boys School, Westminster, South Carolina (1)(4)(5)(6)(7)
?-? - Director of Resident Life at Brandon Hall School, Atlanta, GA (9)
October, 2004-? - Director of Business Development for Confident Living, INC, Boulder, CO (8)(9)
(1) "Leadership Staff" --- http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:zG ... r=&strip=1 (http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:zGvy115TCd4J:www.cherokeecreek.net/html/eblast-template.html+%22Jackson+Culotta%22&hl=en&lr=&strip=1)
(2) "Seen 'n Heard, 2000.07 - Page 2" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een02.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/7/seen02.html)
(3) "Seen 'n Heard, 2001.10 -Page 2" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een02.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2001/10/seen02.html)
(4) "Seen 'n Heard, 2002.12.24" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... heard.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2002/12/dec02seennheard.html)
(5) "New Perspectives, 2003.05.14 - Cherokee Creek Boys School" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... eeknp.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2003/5/cherokeecreeknp.html)
(6) "Seen 'n Heard, 2003.09.23" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... heard.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2003/9/sep03seennheard.html)
(7) "Seen 'n Heard, 2003.12.03" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... heard.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2003/12/dec03seennheard.html)
(8) "Seen 'n Heard, 2004.12.06" --- http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... heard.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2004/12/dec04seennheard.html)
(9) "About Confident Living: The Staff" --- http://www.confidentlivinginc.com/whoweare.html (http://www.confidentlivinginc.com/whoweare.html)
I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could help me fill in the dates for his time at CEDU or the other organizations.
Thanks, John
Update of information for link (9): Confident Living is now known as Vive! (http://http://www.vivenow.com/). Jackson Culotta appears to be no longer working for them. Here is a copy of his brief bio from an archived page (http://http://web.archive.org/web/20050208075852/confidentlivinginc.com/whoweare.html) of Confident Living:
Jack Culotta (not pictured) joined Confident Living in October of 2004, and is in charge of Business Development. Jack has over 15 years in the industry. He spent 9 years with the CEDU Family of Services in Idaho, followed by Headmaster of Cascade School in California, Consultant to Coronado Academy in Costa Rica, Consultant/Interim Headmaster at Cherokee Creek Boys School South Carolina and Director of Resident Life at Brandon Hall School in Atlanta.
See also Cherokee Creek Boys School thread: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27573 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27573)
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MY GOODNESS YOU WERE BUSY, THIS MUST HAVE TAKEN YEARS AND YEARS TO WRITE ALL OF THIS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW. YOU MUST HAVE AN EMPTY SPACE NOW THAT YOU WON'T COME BACK TO TALK TO ME
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FUCK YOU JACK! You are not SAFE Jack. Whether it be tonight or ten years from now, we will see each other again. Sweet dreams and oh make sure to lock your kids doors at night. There are some bad people who would like to do some bad things to you and your family.
The rest of you can take a number. This asshole is mine!
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The rest of you can take a number. This asshole is mine!
Reply 1: (http://http://knowyourmeme.com/i/7814/original/U2LHFUYFRSO76SHIXSUBTSJRX7CSQ3CM.jpeg?1249786714)
Reply 2:
117. No matter how much I want revenge, I will never order an underling "Leave him. He's mine!"
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There was no Basketball team at RMA man. Who the fuck did they play? The Bonners Ferry High team? Even if there was a team and it was semi-organized, you still couldn't call it a "Team." It was just a bunch of dudes getting together to play basketball against one another, and maybe play BCA. No way you played in the Idaho High School basketball league. So you're wrong, there was no official "Team." As far as baseball teams were concerned, I know there weren't any of those either. Yeah, we had a baseball diamond at NWA, but there but no team. Like I said earlier, the only official "Team" that I ever knew about was the NWA soccer team who played in an official Sandpoint adult league. Yes, we did play in an adult league. I played on the fucking team, so don't go telling me what I know and what I don't know asshole. You played tournaments in Canada? What sport?!
There were never any high school caliber sports teams at any of the Idaho schools ever. Even the NWA soccer team that played with Sandpoint people wasn't a "Real" soprts team. It was more of a club sport than anything else.
My point still stands. BCA was the joke of the Idaho schools. You guys had all the weirdest kids there and did all the weirdest things. Weren't you not allowed to have ice cubes at one point. God what a bunch of candy asses you were.
Actually, I was on the first RMA soccer team back in 1984. Technically we were not a team till 1985. We had about six serious players who wanted to play soccer who all played before or after raps, on weekends, whenever we could. We played in the snow, on ice. Then in Spring of 85, Ray Kreiter and Brian Bates (Brian having played semi-pro soccer as a goal tender) agreed to allow us to form a team. Not in a league or anything, just form up, practice together and play nobody.
So we arrived in Bonners Ferry one afternoon to practice using a local field at a park. We practiced for a couple of hours and were packing up to leave when some local kids showed up. We thought they wanted to "rumble" because they were calling it "their field" and said we couldn't use it. But they were apparently the Bonners Ferry 16-18 year old soccer team. Ray Kreiter spoke to their coach, we decided to scrimmage. Final score was RMA 11, BF 0. They thought we were amazing, asked us how long we'd been together as a team and when we said two hours, they were taken aback. We asked how long they'd been together and they said since age 7. Apparently up there the kids advance through the divisions together, gaining or losing a kid here and there as people move away or whatever. So they'd been playing together for at least nine years and we stomped them. So they invited us to join the Pacific Northwest League. RMA had to consider that because they weren't used to letting us out of our cages very often, but they agreed. So we were in the league.
League play had already started a week before so we were automatically down one game since we didn't play. But we went on to beat every team in the area, taking down Sandpoint, Couer d'alene, Green River, and some others. The only team we could not beat was Spokane. Spokane sucked, but they had the most amazing goalie in the league. I don't think any team scored off him in 1985. At the end of the game the score was 0-0. But we had the coolest guy playing goalie for us, but he was also unfortunate the worst goalie in the league. So at the end we had a shoot-off and we were doomed. Spokane beat us.
But we played again in 1986 and kicked ass then as well. I would say all told there were probably 8 to 10 teams in the league. One was from Calgary I believe so we played over the border as well, though we never traveled up there to play. But I do remember in 1986 we tried to form a scrimmage against a team so we could hone our skills before the season began. So Ray called around and got hold of a team up in Calgary. There was a language barrier. Ray was saying we wanted to play a local team, they said okay, Ray said for boys, they took this to mean men, so one day this bus arrives and these men stumble out, with beards, wedding rings, none looking younger than 25, some looking forty'ish. And we were like...um... you guys aren't 16-18. But they had traveled so damn far to play they said, who cares, let's play soccer. So we did. We got stomped but it was fun. They were a semi-pro team, with guys whose names were like Lars and Hans and Werner. Score was 7-2. So RMA was good enough to score two goals on a semi-pro team.
There was no basketball team there in the years I was at RMA, or a baseball team, but I can testify that we had a soccer team that played in a real league against real teams. And not teams representing high schools, but the actual team for the cities they represented. And it was fun. About the most fun I had in Idaho.
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I really wish that the majority of the people posting on here were at BCA during my time. (96-99) This was when a very powerful, passionate, HONEST, and loving man named Jackson Culotta ran the school. I don't know if anyone ever heard the saying "I would never ask you to do something I haven't done or am not willing to do myself". This was a very popular phrase, but Jackson really lived by this. The school was filled with NOTHING but drug addicts, alcoholics, VERY promisicous girls, etc. None of the kids that "couldn't make friends" were there. There were depressed kids there who wanted to cut on themselves, but Jack wouldn't have that! I just get sad when I hear stories about staff that I did know acting in a way that they never did when I was there, or new staff coming in and obviously not knowing how to deal with people in a social setting. I am truly sorry for anything traumatic that ANY of these staff members did to you, but please know that at one point of time, the man running BCA was there to serve a purpose. By the way, they fired him! Why? No one knows for sure. :???: But LaTresa was his assistant and then became the head of the school! BAD IDEA!!! I am guessing that this was when the scheming really began and the school definately took a turn for the worse![ This Message was edited by: If u want to know..then ask on 2005-02-23 15:34 ]
This Jackson guy was a total mother fucker. He wouldn't by any chance be YOU would he? :twofinger: