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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: hedwigfan on October 13, 2002, 06:41:00 PM
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Does anyone remember a movie about Straight that came on TV in the mid 80's? Seems like it was called, "Not My Child" and it was about a teenage girl in a program like Straight. I remember seeing it, seems like it was really watered down. I am curious if anyone knows how that movie got made in the first place.
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enough said
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God, they made us watch it.....
Nuff said...ditto...
I Couldn't believe they showed Midnight Express to us in 1981....the thought of a movie about getting caught with hash in Turkey, sentenced to a horrendous prison, and the unjustly imprisioned Billy and his incredible story of survival and escape. An Academy award winner about the same theme as my life at that moment. If the staff only knew how much stregnth that gave me as I fought in group and stared into space....
Bill
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In Atlanta we were shown "Christianne F" about a gilr using heroin in Berlin in the 70's, they wouldn't let us see the Bowie concert that was in the film.
Does anyone know how to get a copy of the 60 Minutes report on the program that aired in 1984- we were all warned not to watch TV that night- we were told not to even turn on the TV.
Not my Kid did suck really bad, and it was really watered down.
James
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They showed Midnite Express in the VA program in 1983, along with Scared Straight, of course. I slept thru them both. LOL
As for the 60 Minutes show, we contacted them and they don't have copies of anything more than 10 years old.
Shelby
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BTW, the movies they showed us were always chopped up, like the homosexual kissing scene in Midnight express, or trimming objectionable material of any kind.
It still kills me that to any intelligent misbehavior with brains online, the Midnight Express is a cheerleading movie to NEVER give up, and take your chances to escape.
Staff were so simple as to think it was a story about where drugs could get you...
MORONS!!
Bill
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Yeah I barely remember that movie "Not My Kid" only saw it once all the way through.
We got to watch "The Little Mermaid" (joy) and another movie, but I can't remember the name of it.
We only saw 3 movies, but I appreciated them since I was only on 1st phase most of my "program" and 2nd phase only about a month of my stay there.
Watching movies meant we didn't have to relate in group and be bitched out.. it was wonderful! :smile:
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http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/det ... 05,00.html (http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/details/0,7286,VID-V++++35705,00.html)
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Dear God!!
Welcome, Adam.
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Wow I remember that not my kid movie like it was yesterday. Her being in the tent all druggied out on meth. God and her yelling coming home or some straightish bullshit ugh ::puke::
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I remember us all going into the carpet room to see Midnight Express. It was incredible. We actually got to avoid ourselves by watching a movie. I agree with you Bill, it is a movie about endurance and how to overcome the odds. I kept getting in my head about the hash and how good it taste. Yummy Turkish hashish
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"Not My Kid" showed a pro-straight anti-drug point of veiw. Some day one will be made showing the true straight, from our veiwpoint. It needs to be done. It is such a pain in the ass tring to explain that place to people that wern't there.
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that was me, forgot to sign in.
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What I remember about watching Midnight Express was the affect it was supposed to have on us. We were supposed to watch the movie and be appreciative that we were in Straight and not in some Turkish prison. Afterwards, someone always stood up to share their feelings about being in jail or another rehab, etc. I called these ?cop out raps? because staff didn?t have to do anything. All they had to do was ask, ?So how did that make you feel?? They call on some people, a few tears are shed, then they tell us how that could be us if we weren?t in the program and that was the end of rap.
Wasn?t there a scene where the girlfriend came to visit and presses her breast against the glass? We didn?t see that scene! It?s probably a good thing we didn?t because there would have been at least a dozen guys who would want to talk about themselves during lunch. You know?they watched the movie, started having fantasies, did the deed and now they feel guilty. Of course, contestant #1 stands up and gets ripped to shreds by the group then any guy that thought about wanting to talk quickly changed his mind and went back to eating his crap du jour. The only other movie I can remember seeing was a Disney movie- The Apple Dumpling Gang.
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On my program, we had two movies we could watch (without getting permission) on 1st and 2nd Phase: "Not My Kid" and "The Cross and the Switchblade" (with Pat Boone and Eric Estrada). I swear I saw them over and over just to watch something on TV. It was funny then, and I still smile when I think about those awful movies.
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Of course I wasn't there as long as most of you but I only remember getting to watch one movie and I beleive it was the "10 Comandments" on Easter of 1980. I had seen it before but enjoyed it only because I hadn't seen any TV for awhile and of course b/c we didn't have to relate in group, although I'm sure we had a discussion afterwards, I can't remember. I personally loved the movie "Midnight Express" and I think it would've given me even more courage to endure and escape.
Tina
St.Pete 1980Life may have no meaning. Or even worse, it may have a meaning of which I disapprove.
Ashleigh Brilliant
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TinaMC- How long were you in the program? I entered in June of '80 and just curious if I would remember you.
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On 2002-10-13 21:12:00, enough wrote:
"In Atlanta we were shown "Christianne F" about a gilr using heroin in Berlin in the 70's, they wouldn't let us see the Bowie concert that was in the film.
James"
I saw that movie about 10 years ago (rented it in a video store)and often have looked for it but can't find it. It is a horrific accurate portrayal of a young girl's heroin addiction in Germany.
As far as "not my kid"...it is a piece of trash about Miller Newton's program. ...it is worth discussing radical changes, not in the expectation that they will be adopted promptly but for two other reasons. One is to construct an ideal goal, so that incremental changes can be judged by whether they move the institutional structure toward or away from that ideal. The other reason is very different. It is so that if a crisis requiring or facilitating radical change does arise, alternatives will be available that have been carefully developed and fully explored."
Milton Friedman
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I remember seeing that movie while in Straight as well. Only, we didn't get to see the parts with David Bowie...
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Did Christiane X have a scean in which a skinhead jacked her rig in a bathroom and shot up in his neck. If so we saw it in Dallas. But whatever movie it was, we all got blasted for not sharing about it afterward.
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GDuncan,
I went in in March of 1980 and split on 3rd phase sometime in June. Not exactly sure of the date. We may have just missed each other. I'm sure that if you are a guy I would definitely not know you since we never could look over there and believe me I tried to do it w/o getting caught. But if you are a girl then we may have crossed paths. I wish we would have, I haven't met anyone that I knew but then again it was long ago and I wasn't there too long. Thank GOD!!
Tina McGrath(Mulroney use to be)Being sleepy can impair someone's ability to do thier job. People
can sleep at home and come to the job with sleepiness still in their system. The sleepiness can still be there long after the employee has slept. When someone is found to be sleepy on the job, they can claim that they went to sleep the night before. The only solution to this problem is to ban employees from sleeping.
--Arthur Slabosky
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Yes, in a subway station I believe. Also, i depicted her boyfriend having to turn tricks with adult men.
I saw the movie independent of the program and thought it was pretty good...
Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."
Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger, 1916, Ch.9
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You can rent the movie at blockbusters, although take my wor at spend yor money on the M&Ms instead. The movie was so far fetched from the real thing it was unreal.
thea
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Yes, I remember "Not My Child". My oldest sister was in Straight and it saved her life. That was almost 19 years ago and I was 10 years old but that movie was very accurate. I am trying to find a copy of that movie but it is nowhere to be found. It is not even mentioned on IMDB.com.
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Yes, I remember "Not My Child". My oldest sister was in Straight and it saved her life. That was almost 19 years ago and I was 10 years old but that movie was very accurate. I am trying to find a copy of that movie but it is nowhere to be found. It is not even mentioned on IMDB.com.
You were NOT in Straight. I WAS in Straight in 1984 - 1986 and that movie was shown in group one night. The biggest thing I remember about that movie?? Being told it was about Straight and being confused and wondering why it was so different from the REALITY of Straight....Not MY Kid was a huge LIE. Clearly you were NOT in Straight so you could not possbly know whether or not it was an accurate portrayal of Straight. What went on in the group was NEVER revealed to anyone...not even our parents.
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I didn't see Not My Kid; I don't think it was shown in group when i was there (earlier on), but anyone who has seen it who was in Straight has said that it was a phony representation of what went on there. If anyone wants a more accurate portrayal (although perhaps not the best since it was really about KHK, not Straight) of what the program was actually like, rent Over The G.W.; at least that film is something like the truth.
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O! Yeah! I remember ...
many movies...soothing the savage beast within, viewing "Never Cry Wolf"(still one of my favorites) and "Midnight Express" which is, as is fitting part of the all-time greats movie list.
we never saw "Not My Kid" while we were in there, at Springfield, not while I was in there anyway, but I remember bein in there in March of 85, and then at some time over the next what ?? ... less than 18 months, when group lined up and went into the carpet room to watch "Midnight Express" and I wrote a whole story about this on a earlier topic, called Rich Mullinax and the Midnight Express thread, but God help me if I could ever find it now. And I related more to the character in the movie than to anyone I knew in group, or the wider straight cult around us at the time,...or now.
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"Not My KID", what a piece. I have it and you can usually always find a copy on ebay. A couple of interesting tidbits about the flick. Nancy Cartwright, the voice of Bart Simpson, was in the movie. Shawnee Smith was also in the movie (snippet at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHxBP9oatJE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHxBP9oatJE)). She also was the murderess in the SAW series of films, is also on the "Becker" show on tv, and has a band, Fydolla Ho--the band's myspace is at http://www.myspace.com/fivedollaho (http://www.myspace.com/fivedollaho). Interesting to see this troubled teen turned right in group yelling "coming home" (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0YvFWF7oPo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0YvFWF7oPo)) and later was in the SAW movies killing the shit out of people in wicked ways.
In KIDS of El Paso, the one single movie that we were allowed to watch was also Midnight Express. Strange one of many common threads with both KIDS and STRAIGHT. I drooled seeing all the hash, but the film had no other effect on me. I guess it was yet another failed attempt to try to show us how drugs could "make our life unmanageable."