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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 26, 2004, 03:42:00 PM
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I had heard while i was at cedu that you are legally entiled to a copy of your file when you turn eighteen, is this true? and if so, how do i go about requesting it?
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Call them up and I know it will hurt but nicely ask for your records. they will send you a release form and then then will send them to you but they may charge you for copies and postage. It you were there the whole program you mayhave to set up for shipping yourself. If they give you any problems hang up call back a half hour later and let them know you just spoke to your family's extremely litigious attorney, that's even they will instantly become your friend.
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you did this?
what did it look like?
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You don't need to do it that way. You do have rights to your records - or a summary of them. Here's what you do:
1) Call CEDU and request your a) academic and b) treatment records
2) If you get any grief about this, ask for the person's name and make sure s/he spells it for you. You want them to know you're writing it down.
3) Ask, "So, Betty, are you telling me that I have no rights to my records?"
4) If the person says, "yes" ask under what law are you not privy to your records.
5) If you continue to not get cooperation, ask to speak with that person's supervisor.
You won't have to go this far. Once you ask for the spelling of the person's name, you usually get a good response. If you get to the point of asking what law prohibits you from your records, you either have have an ignorant jackass, or cause for legal action.
You do have rights to records - not necessarily photocopies of everything, but certainly a summary. It depends on the state.
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i always wonder what you people wrote about me...
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As I recall - brilliant, insightful, fabulously gifted...
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the way to deal with cedu is to tell them that u will report them to authorities if they do not give you your records. cedu has a long history of not obeying the law. it goes back to the days of mel wasserman who did not give a shit about the law if you keep calling the authorities on them they will be forced to turn over or face a legal hearing . if all of you complain they will hand it over.
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I called Cedu and requested my file when I turned 21 and they told me I could not have it.
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They may no longer have your file. I tried to get a copy of mine in 1998 (five years after I graduated). Everyone was very helpful, but at the end of the day, they had lost it. Aparently a outside company had been employed to archive and warehouse old records and some were lost. Mine was among them.
Best, Mark
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You're lucky.
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Yes, they must give you your file upon request and they must deliver it within something like 5 days. If you received school funding or if you were an employee for students receiving state/federal school funding it is federal law and a crime, subject to federal penelties, if they refuse to give it to you.
I was refused my employee records, but I am getting ready to call the GAO (General Accounting Office) fraud line. I think it is FedFraud in search engines and get them fined as a whistle blower.
If you blow the whistle on an agency using State Educational Funding (And it all comes at least partially from federal funds) and they are investigated and found to be misusing or misrepresenting services they will be fined by the DOE Department of Education. Fines run in the millions and the whistle blower gets 30%. We currently have a case between a school, and the DOE, and we will probably get 5 million. As the fine is projected to be about 15 million in this case since the school was fined before.
The process takes about two years. To start, call the Department of Education and ask for the fraud investigators. There are also lawyers in every town that specialize in DOE and other federal fraud cases - as it is lucrative.
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yeh, i think they ditch the files after 5 years... i remember having heard that.