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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: tommyfromhyde1 on June 25, 2004, 02:41:00 PM

Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: tommyfromhyde1 on June 25, 2004, 02:41:00 PM
http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July ... aug04.html (http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July-August-2004/feature_labi_julaug04.html)

Clancy's Law: The perceived role of governments is to deploy ever increasing resources to the attainment of  ever diminishing end results.
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Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2004, 04:14:00 PM
The guy kicks a teenaged girl in the twat, molests his nieces. . .this is what people send into their bedrooms.  Book mark this article, it's a keeper!
Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Antigen on June 25, 2004, 07:00:00 PM
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"Working with these kids is like working a 12-step," [Strawn] said before a recent transport. "Behavior is as addictive as any drugs or alcohol. I plant the seed of recovery."


Fuckin' stepcraft!

Men seldom, or rather never for a length of time, and deliberately, rebel against anything that does not deserve rebelling against.

--Thomas Carlyle

Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2004, 07:06:00 PM
Hey Girl -
I know your out there. . .
You should not have dropped charges.
You should not have dropped charges.
One more time
You should not have dropped charges.
Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Helena Handbasket on June 26, 2004, 06:25:00 PM
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On 2004-06-25 11:41:00, tommyfromhyde1 wrote:

"http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July-August-2004/feature_labi_julaug04.html

Clancy's Law: The perceived role of governments is to deploy ever increasing resources to the attainment of  ever diminishing end results.
--Home Page (http://ozinfo.com/)

"


Well at least it was semi-truthful... just have to read between the lines.  :cry:
Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2004, 07:04:00 PM
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Three years ago, Strawn escorted Valerie Ann Heron, a 17-year-old from Montgomery, Ala., to Tranquility Bay. The school is the most hardcore in the WWASP system, the one to which students are sent when they repeatedly cause trouble at other schools. The trip went smoothly, according to Heron's mother, Nell Orange, and Strawn played his role well. "He made her feel comfortable with him. She trusted him. He talked to her about what to expect, where she was going," Orange said. "She gave him a hug when she left him."

The day after that hug, Valerie rushed out of a second-floor classroom and jumped to her death off a 35-foot-high balcony.

The suicide didn't faze Strawn. He didn't ask himself whether he should have taken Valerie to Tranquility Bay and left her there, or whether she needed more help and tenderness than the tough-love school provides. He doesn't even acknowledge that she might have been upset or unhinged enough to kill herself. "We had a really good trip. We were laughing and cutting it up," Strawn recalled. "Was she suicidal? Till the day I die, I won't believe that." Without any evidence, Strawn says that Valerie must have jumped in an effort to run away or in hopes of hurting herself so that she would be sent home. She landed on her head instead of her feet, he thinks, because one foot got caught in the balcony. "My feeling is that the majority of kids who talk about suicide, they're not suicidal," Strawn said. "What they are is manipulative."


Who ruled that this girl's death was a suicide?  If Strawn is right, that she wanted to run away or injure herself to get sent home, seems to me that is a fairly common ideation and that precautions should be taken to prevent kids from "jumping" off balconies (no matter what the reason).  

Also,the article said Strawn had transported something like 700 kids.  Anybody know what kind of money these people make "per escort"?
Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
If I recall correctly, it is about 1500 plus expenses. The artical mentioned two grand, I believe.
Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Deborah on June 27, 2004, 02:28:00 AM
CALIFORNIA IS THE ONLY STATE WITH A SEMBLANCE OF OVERSIGHT FOR ESCORTS. In response to news accounts in 1997 of a teenage boy from Oakland, Calif., who was transported against his will to Tranquility Bay, the state's legislature developed a bill to protect kids like him. The legislation would have barred escorts from using restraints that interfere with a child's "ability to see, hear, or move freely." By the time it passed, however, the bill had been amended into a toothless licensing scheme.
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CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY VOTES TO TIE PARENT?S HANDS
(June 15,1999) The California Assembly passed Bill 705, with the stated intention of establishing reasonable standards for regulating the private transport/escort of at-risk youth. It now goes to the state Senate. A section at the end of the bill would ensure that the only way an out-of-control youngster could be transported to a program to get the kind of help that is needed, is with that youngster?s permission. The result: elimination of a resource that desperate parents sometimes need in order to save their child from his/her own negative decision.

NATSAP AND OBHIC AGAINST BILL 705
(June 19, 1999) The National Association of Therapeutic Schools and Programs (NATSAP), 805-687-5825, a national organization of schools and programs for at-risk teens, and the Outdoor Behavioral Health Industry Council (OBHIC), 562-467-5519, a national association of wilderness programs, both came out strongly against California Assembly Bill 705. Both organizations are hard at work developing standards of quality and safety for private residential programs for at-risk teens, and feel strongly that passage of this bill into law in the State of California would have the effect of denying badly needed help for out-of-control teens.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een03.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1999/7/seen03.html)


Who is NATSAP
In 1998, John Reddan wrote a paper outlining the size and scope of a possible association and asked for and received $5500 from Len Buccellato
and Hidden Lake Academy [TBS] in Dahlonega, Georgia
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 22&forum=9 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=5722&forum=9)
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 68&forum=9 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=3368&forum=9)
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 26&forum=9 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2826&forum=9)

to travel to ten programs in nine states and to host an exploratory meeting in Atlanta. An organizational meeting in Albuquerque followed in 1999.

Redden pointed out there has been a six-fold increase in the number of these schools and programs since 1970. These schools and programs currently are working with more than 7,000 students annually with 1/3 of a billion dollars in revenue. Noting that the six-fold increase shows this new industry is rising to meet the increased demand, he estimated there are "at least
200,000 adolescents in America right now who need our programs and can afford them."

The highest priorities of those in attendance were annual conference, workshops, and setting industry-wide standards. http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/nat ... iples.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/natsapprinciples.html)

Bill 705 Who Wins? By Lon Woodbury
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe02.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1999/7/oe02.html)
Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Anonymous on June 28, 2004, 05:21:00 AM
you asked how much do escorts cost?
well I was escorted to casa by the sea and it was $2,200.
Thank god I am out!!!!!!!!!!!
I am FREE!!!! ::bandit::
Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: Anonymous on June 28, 2004, 01:45:00 PM
Any word on that grandfather with a kid in there?
Title: just found this about the escort biz
Post by: White Cracker Man on June 28, 2004, 09:51:00 PM
I read the Strawn atricle. I noticed the 16 year old boy had a 9PM curfew on the weekend. When I Was 13 , My foster mother gave me a 9PM curfew. I can definitely understand the teen's point of view. They were not letting their teen son be a teen. Definitely seems to me that his parents were of the unreasonably overly strict variety. Very sad story there.