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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: HandsOutLight on March 19, 2004, 01:43:00 PM
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:silly: :wave: Goodbye Dark, Dark Evil CEDU. :grin: :razz:
Eighty Million In The Hole
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Who's hole, is what I wanna know...
Psychedelics often produce psychotic and even violent behavior in those who have never used them.
--Timothy Leary
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This is music to my ears!!!!!
Mel Wasserman was one smart sadistic,psyco, cult leader to sell to Brown Schools, for at least $80 million, when he did.
The Brown Schools got screwed royally, and I hope Paul Hart, the heartless bastard, lost his job over it.
Mel was Frankenstien, and CEDU was the angry, mean, disfunctional monster he created, and the Brown Schools were dooped like the doops they are.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PS I hope La P cries all the way to the poor house. Where will she get the money to support her hungry drug habit?
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What is even better is that Brown schools sold half their company all ready to pay their mounting debts from CEDU.
Now it is way worse - they have nothing to sell but what's left of their dark souls. Of course they already sold their souls(ethics)and that is why they are where they are now.
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Antigen Asks: Whose Hole?
MORONI - The Satanic
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I'd like to know what their census is right now. When I left in 2000 their numbers were dropping substatially. Did they ever go back up? Does anybody know what their numbers are like now?
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hahahahahahahahahahahahah
LaTeresa with "no drug money" - now that is funny. hahahahaahahahah
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[ This Message was edited by: Roy on 2004-04-16 10:43 ]
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The numbers Kept Going Down. RMA actually got down into the 40's the last time I heard. BCA was around that level too. They used to get 90 or so, It's probably down in the 30's now. The problem is that Brown doesn't know how to run a facility that is basically a cult, so they kept it the same and added therapists. But the therapists hated it because the staff would never act in the best interests of the child - basic human rights, you know? So, the therapists just come and go, come and go, come and go because they really can't overcome the staff's stupidity and bad ethics left over from the Wasserman days. They won't listen, or they pretend to listen. The key is that the directors don't make them change their mindset. They don't have to listen to the therapists because Brown Schools won't fire them for negligence and child abuse. They hide child abuse by only allowing staff to report it to "risk management" instead of the proper authorities. If you get caught reporting to child protective services - your job is gone. Instead of accepting professional practice and ethics the Mormons spy on the therapists, listen to sessions through walls, try to initiate conflict and make the thjerapist look bad. Eventually, they all gang up on the therapist and make her life so miserable that she quits. Then, they say that the therapist didn't "buy in." That means didn't follow the beliefs of the cult. If people don't "buy in" its curtains. No intelligent person will suspend his right to think. So, all the intelligent and educated people are moved out - over and over again. After leaving the therapists and unhappy staff talk and this destroys the reputation of the school. And they should have a bad reputation. I wouldn't expect them to last long.
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That's a great assessment of the Brown School's mismanagement. I remember when they bought CEDU and stated that they had no intentions of changing anything about the program. Boy were they stupid. They just wanted the dough to keep flowing in. What they didn't know is that CEDU had reached the peak of its cycle. Wasserman played it perfectly.
I don't feel sorry for The Brown Schools because I saw the quality of management they brought to the table. The only thing they knew how to do was point fingers and blame everyone but themselves. If they would have intercepted the school from the degenerates who were running it, (and we all know who I'm speaking of teamleaders), they could have salvaged something.
I also remember the many therapist who came to the program eager to help. It was pathetic to see them time and time again be told by some psychotic, unstable teamleader that their PHD or Master's degree meant nothing. Therapist were just another long line of CEDU staff for the Teamleaders to verbally abuse and ignore. We had some great therapists at BCA.
I knew when I left CEDU that the cancer had metastisized. The Brown Schools should have cut it out as soon as they bought it. I, for one, expressed this to them, but they did not listen, in fact, they turned on me. Now they are rotting away from the inside out, and I'm living my dream. I love the perfectness of the universe!!!!
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Well,
that is about as well stated as I have ever heard. You obviously know the place very well.
They did indeed turn on all of us.
Thet was an exact and articulate statement. If they had listened The school would have survived to be a place of compassion.
Hats off to you.
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I Miss You Jenny - you are a fine person - live that dream and don't look back - you might throw up.
Peace
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On 2004-03-23 15:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
"That's a great assessment of the Brown School's mismanagement. I remember when they bought CEDU and stated that they had no intentions of changing anything about the program. Boy were they stupid. They just wanted the dough to keep flowing in. What they didn't know is that CEDU had reached the peak of its cycle. Wasserman played it perfectly.
I don't feel sorry for The Brown Schools because I saw the quality of management they brought to the table. The only thing they knew how to do was point fingers and blame everyone but themselves. If they would have intercepted the school from the degenerates who were running it, (and we all know who I'm speaking of teamleaders), they could have salvaged something.
I also remember the many therapist who came to the program eager to help. It was pathetic to see them time and time again be told by some psychotic, unstable teamleader that their PHD or Master's degree meant nothing. Therapist were just another long line of CEDU staff for the Teamleaders to verbally abuse and ignore. We had some great therapists at BCA.
I knew when I left CEDU that the cancer had metastisized. The Brown Schools should have cut it out as soon as they bought it. I, for one, expressed this to them, but they did not listen, in fact, they turned on me. Now they are rotting away from the inside out, and I'm living my dream. I love the perfectness of the universe!!!!
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The secret is out. hahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Thanks for your well-wishes. I have been looking back, and I have been doing some puking, but I also want to make sure that parents looking to these sites have some information. My suggestion to any parent looking at CEDU as an option for their flailing child, (DON"T DO IT, DON"T DO IT, DON"T DO IT) is that they visit the school and ask about the issues they read about here. Who will be running your child's program, the therapist or some controlling team leader with little to no education? How does the increasing loss of "heads in beds" effect the quality of the program? How does the program account for the individual needs of each student? What if my child needs more communication with his/her parents that other students? Who decides? The teamleader?????????
I don't know what the tuition is anymore. When I left it was reaching $5,000 per month not including any therapy, psychiatric, medical, clothing, transportation, ..... I have a feeling they may have had to reduce tuition in order to be competative.
CEDU took a lot from me, but I am filling myself back up with lots of love and sunshine. I hope that all of you are doing the same.
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Things are going well for me and I am living my dream too. I can only say how sorry I feel for the kids who built such strong bonds with their therapists only to have them vanish and to be told liesm viscious lies about them.
I also feel very bad for all the people - expecially therapists and staff who have been damaged so badly by this place. Expecially those who wanted healing and not power.
It ruined so many years of my life directly and indirectly. I lost my wife and part of my child. I can't get rid of this burning desire to put that fire out, to save those kids, parents and staff from from being torn apart; from being placed in emotional irons and slashed by two faced, doubled edge double binds, lies, horror, reflected self hatred, projected fear and injected false humility followed by mental torture.
I would give my life savings to make the parents and the management feel for one day the pain CEDU inflicted on so many. Stress related illness - painful, degrading and, yes, even fatal.
They could never pay for the ruined love, the pain of divorce, the false charges, the false memories, the lost dignity and development in our lives.
If they could only feel what it is like for one day. I wouldn't wish two days on them. That would be too cruel.
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CEDU has destroyed so many families and individuals. I am very sorry for your losses and pain. I do believe the people responsible for creating so much pain in our lives will suffer for their actions without us wishing it on them. That's how I move forward.
CEDU has a cancer, and it's terminal. The genetic component is Mel's psuedo philosophy and the trigger was greed. They are breathing their last breaths now. I for one don't expect any deathbed confessions. I do think that you and I and everyone on this thread owe it to the many, many injured people out there to bring validation to their pain.
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You all remember awhile back when Roseanne Bar was claiming recently recovered suppressed memories of sexual abuse by her father? I wonder now if that had anything to do with CEDU parent seminars? I know the husband, Arnold, is a devout and evangelistic practitioner of stepcraft.
Now I'm piqued. A student burst into his office. "Professor Stigler, I don't believe I deserve this F you've given me." To which Stigler replied, "I agree, but unfortunately it is the lowest grade the University will allow me to award."
--Professor Stigler
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I don't believe Rosanne attended any Parent Seminars. She was the parent from hell to work with. She did not buy into the program for herself, only for her daughters. I did not work with Rosanne, but i worked with parents as famous and as difficult as her. they put themselves way above the low-lifes at the school, though they don't mind dropping their kids off there for a couple years.
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Yep, Me too. I worked with CEOs of fortune 500 companies, famious lawyers, children of movie stars and famous musicians etc. I wouldn't put them down for not "buying in" or comming to the parent conferences to get those EST and LifeSpriing induced peak experiences and believe (wronly) that anything has changed to make them "even more perfect" than they already think they are - only and idiot would do that. But you are right. The kids got dropped of so the lousy parents could spend their time getting even richer and more grandiose and narcissistic than they already are instead of parenting their children. Which, BY THE WAY, is the whole problem in the first place. But, why change what needs to be changed when CEDU can spend two years sucking them for every penny they are willing to spend on that lesser priority - their kid and patronize them with music and love pointing out what selfless heroes they are for dumping their kids off at the SS.
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On 2004-03-26 16:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"CEDU has destroyed so many families and individuals. I am very sorry for your losses and pain. I do believe the people responsible for creating so much pain in our lives will suffer for their actions without us wishing it on them. That's how I move forward.
CEDU has a cancer, and it's terminal. The genetic component is Mel's psuedo philosophy and the trigger was greed. They are breathing their last breaths now. I for one don't expect any deathbed confessions. I do think that you and I and everyone on this thread owe it to the many, many injured people out there to bring validation to their pain. "
We will move on. Just remember, please, that it is wrong to leave a stumbling stone in the road after it has tripped you. Others will become its victim. Your speaking out to me and others accomplishes that. I hope everyone will continue to speak out and prevent more suffering being imposed on children and other innocent human beings.
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On 2004-03-27 12:02:00, Antigen wrote:
"You all remember awhile back when Roseanne Bar was claiming recently recovered suppressed memories of sexual abuse by her father? I wonder now if that had anything to do with CEDU parent seminars? I know the husband, Arnold, is a devout and evangelistic practitioner of stepcraft.
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This is a good question. I can't say for sure, but I can say that during "the repressed memory hysteria" of the 80s and 90s, many people were victimized by bad therapists and their, so called, "repressed memories" including me.
A CEDU staff who was "no more than high school graduate" but, a very certifiable "trust counselor" pulled a repressed memory from my wife - of me raping her. Oh shit, a regular incident of 12 years prior, before we were married, and when we were living together madly in love, was quietly altered very imaginatively, and suddenly a dregged up memory of middle-of- the-night sex made me rapist.
It didn't matter that my wife was molested for years by a family member and she remembered every detail. It did'nt matter that we had been married for 11 years - happily. It didn't matter that I was a die-hard faminist fighting exploitation of females; What mattered was that this 12 year old false memory was now in her pocket, and all of her anger and self loathing could now be blamed on me and directed toward me.
Thus, I became the cause of her frigidity and I suddenly became "the miserable basterd that ruined her life." What actually was I? I was the miserable basterd that was saving her brother, the child molester, from having to take hell. Now he whole issue would be projected on to me. Wonderful, isn't it.
The sordid falsely constructed version of this "alleged" incident was then broadcast across the CEDU schools and into the community by CEDU staff and eventually a CEDU therapist.
Gosh, It is fun to have your marriage and reputation destroyed by memory reconstruction. But, you know what they say, and I'm living proof of it; "What doesn't kill us" (does often) "make us stronger." Yes, strong enough to silence the real victimizers."
CEDU parents, this could happen to you if you don't get your kid out of there NOW.
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Any other horror stories out there. Come on, you can post them annomously and tell all about being called whore abd slut in the propheets and having staff vicariously humping you. You can tell all about the Post Traumatic Stress this induced and the hospitalization that cedu caused you (annonomously).
Here is one from a CEDU parent a few years ago.
It was posted on:
http://www.teenliberty.org/Liberated.htm (http://www.teenliberty.org/Liberated.htm)
SAY IT
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On 2004-03-28 18:54:00, HandsOutLight wrote:
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On 2004-03-26 16:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"CEDU has destroyed so many families and individuals. I am very sorry for your losses and pain. I do believe the people responsible for creating so much pain in our lives will suffer for their actions without us wishing it on them. That's how I move forward.
CEDU has a cancer, and it's terminal. The genetic component is Mel's psuedo philosophy and the trigger was greed. They are breathing their last breaths now. I for one don't expect any deathbed confessions. I do think that you and I and everyone on this thread owe it to the many, many injured people out there to bring validation to their pain. "
We will move on. Just remember, please, that it is wrong to leave a stumbling stone in the road after it has tripped you. Others will become its victim. Your speaking out to me and others accomplishes that. I hope everyone will continue to speak out and prevent more suffering being imposed on children and other innocent human beings."
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On 2004-03-30 08:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"A Message to Teen Helpers,
This came from another post about saving kids from Mormons. A lovely thought for CEDU too.
Kids don't need good programs, they need good parents.
Behold the Purity and the Holiness of those who hear, speak and obey the Words of God.
We have come for the program children, to free them from the enemy who threatens to destroy their innocence, their passion, their spirit.
Rejoice, the children are coming home.
It is the Word of God.
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Threatening signs, tire slashed, truck with flames and loud pipes - two encounters, a call to 911. If my last light comes. make it "last light" for the schools. My wife and others will know who's hand came to pass.
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I must say, this is music to my ears... I am a current student on a home visit, and I am thanking god for this long home visit my parents demanded, it gave me time to clear my head of the bullshit i've been fed. I've been saying for a while that the whole corporate setup is one for failure, as well as a very bad setup to supposedly help teens...corporations by nature have one purpose...to make money for stockholders, period. The whole thing is a big crock, i've been there longer than half the staff, and yea...I can't wait to see it all go down...Thank you all for your efforts at this site, it means a lot
~a current prisoner~
cykros@yahoo.com
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Hang in there. This too shall pass.
Being sleepy can impair someone's ability to do thier job. People
can sleep at home and come to the job with sleepiness still in their system. The sleepiness can still be there long after the employee has slept. When someone is found to be sleepy on the job, they can claim that they went to sleep the night before. The only solution to this problem is to ban employees from sleeping.
--Arthur Slabosky
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As always, heed Ginger's words. And go to work fighting against them whenever you are or get out. Tell the stories of sitting for weeks being brainwashed. We will "be waiting for you" and your voice. All of your voices. Spread the word. Do as all cult vets do. Cop out, when they pressure you, to some big issue and keep the other 1000 bigger issues in your underground. Develop a systematic and organized system to do this with trusted peers. This model was developed and perfected at BCA and is unbreakable.
All tyranny evokes underground resistance. This is the Achilles heel. They are Nazi and they can't dispute what they are doing - running a mind control camp using thought control. See Robert Lifton's book Thought Control and the Psychology of Totalism. Red the book "Snapping."
It is a pure function of nature and evolution to resist - The trick is to never stop - no matter what. Staff has no staying power. We students have no other choice, so we use our time well to break and unravel false trust in false and power hungry imposed socialization. Ralph Waldo Emerson said "Absolve to yourself and you shall have the suffarage of the world." Fake the loss of free will while you exersize it against them.
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Fool them while they try to brainwash you. Look closely at the staff. They are all fools - all the way to the top.
These people are hungry for power precisely because they are weak.
They are hungry for CEDU knowledge, because they wouldn't know knowledge if it bit them.
Remember, no matter how much they PUNISH and PLAY WITH YOUR EMOTIONS, that they do it out of their own weakness and stupidity.
Play the Game while you use their own stupidity against them.
Without your loyalty to their tyranny, they have nothing. Fake it while you break it. Everyone does. Don't let them drug you unless you are really depressed or psychotic. Remember, CEDU will make you depressed and psychotic. It might be better to to the hospital than to end up killing yourself. If your parents dont get it - they will when they get the hospital bills
They will keep saying that they are kinder and gentler as a program - don't believe it parents. They are just better at hiding and doing thinks that whole teams will dispute ever happened. People like to save their own skin (income). The staff "buy in" because they will be punished if they don't. It comes down to lying to parents and themselves - that is why so many leave.
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This is from another post by other people - had to get it to this post site. It explains why they remain in the red
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CEDU has had some problems with the law that they don't reveal to parents. They have been cited for abuse of students, and the local county, San Bernardino, won't place any kids there. Local clinicians know how abusive CEDU is. The local medical clinic on the mountain there is very upset with them, too.
Mel Wasserman, the founder, was such a nut case, that we had to keep him away from parents when he visited. We would organize to keep him busy so they wouldn?t ruin everything by finding out what kind of person he really was. Can you believe it?!
I worked there. I saw how parents were ripped off. It is true that some kids needed "shock" treatment - gang bangers, and so forth. Some kids are literally putting their lives in peril with the stuff they are getting into. Almost anything would be better than some kid dying in a shootout.
However, I know that there is no THERAPY happening there. There are counselors with no formal psychological training. They do have real therapists there, but the school doesn?t want them there. They have them only because they won?t be paid by the school districts if they don?t, and it looks good to the parents. We were ?supposed? to do what the therapists said if there was a problem. That?s what we presented to the parents. It was a lie. We did what our supervisors told us to do. Frequently, it was abusive.
The school tried to get us to go to their "profeets" but we all refused. We knew it was inappropriate. In the "profeets" staff and kids are supposed to bare their souls, after hours of emotional abuse, telling every bad thing they did. If a kid couldn't come up with something terrible, he was shamed. I knew kids who lied and made up stuff just to get everyone off their backs.
One staff stands out - she was a complete s_ _t. Kids told me that in the profeets, she would talk about her promiscuity. She would scream and cry. Two kids AWOL'd later - they told me they saw her in a bar dancing with men like a s_ _t. They were shocked. They told me that they would have a terrible time believing anything she said. She had no formal training at all - she had been a receptionist at a real estate office when CEDU hired her. She keep being promoted at CEDU, because she was emotionally cruel. I'm sorry to say it - that's the way it was. When I quit, she was the head of the middle school. It sickens me to think that that ignorant, cruel, mean-spirited, s_ _t is responsible for all those kids and staff. Do I sound unreasonably biased? I tell you, this is as it is.
I kept complaining about a large braided rug on the floor in the reception office. I begged them to nail it down or remove it. The edge of it kept rolling up and people would trip on it. One night, a grandfather came into the building and tripped on that rug. He could not get up. When the paramedics came, they asked what had happened. I told them that he tripped on the rug and an administrator who was in the room quickly hushed me. I know that they did not hear me because of the noise and they never reacted to what I said. I was a coward and didn't repeat it. I learned later that he died in the hospital - he had suffered a broken pelvis. CEDU killed him. And I didn't say anything. I'm deeply ashamed.
This place stimulates so much fear. You just can't imagine. I am so glad for this opportunity to post. I went to work fearful and depressed. It got to the point where I had to stop driving my car on the way to work because I was crying so hard I couldn't see to drive safely.
The school broke all manner of laws regarding confidentiality. They gave the nurse far more power than she should have had. I knew about medical problems kids had that the nurse ignored as the kids were ?attention-seeking? or ?lying.? I had to go to the parents and make them promise to not tell the school I tipped them off. That was the only way I could be sure the kids got the medical attention they needed. The nurse was angry, negative, and controlling.
I also recall a tall, psychotic and homicidal middle-schooler. He told me about fantasizing murdering his roommates by holding pillows over their faces. I was alarmed and told the administration that I felt he was a threat to the other kids. They ignored me. He eventually was removed by his parents as they observed that he continued to be psychotic. Duh.
I felt that way because CEDU was such a horrible environment. They were traumatizing and abusing kids and I could do nothing. I hated being a part of that. Staff were traumatized ? I met people who were traumatized YEARS after leaving CEDU. They said that when people quit or are fired, they get the CEDU escort. Someone tells you go now and you can?t even pack up your stuff without someone hovering around, pressuring you to leave right now. This happened to me ? I was not even allowed to say goodbye to my kids. The school lied to me, lied to the kids, and lied to the parents. I wonder how many kids are traumatized by CEDU. I?ll never know. I just hate knowing that I was a small part of it. There are excellent school that are truly therapeutic. CEDU is not. God, it feels to good to get this off my chest. I have many, many, many more horrible stories.
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Anonymous
Unregistered User Definitely Abusive
Posted: 2004-04-04 21:48:00
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These staff stories are absolutely horrifying and I feel for each and every one of you. How I wish parents could hear what goes on in these places from the perspective of counselors and therapists that no longer work in these hellish places. Why don't you all hook up and collaborate on a book? If you can get around the threat of lawsuits for "telling it like it is", and with the right literary agent, this book would be a bestseller right up there with the latest Steven King novel.
It's that nightmarish!!!! Anyway, thanks for sharing and trying to get the truth out there. Like Ginger always says, "it takes a 1,000 voices"
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[ This Message was edited by: Jack1963 on 2004-08-01 15:29 ]
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[ This Message was edited by: Jack1963 on 2004-08-01 15:30 ]
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They consistently do the same thing to the therapists in Bonners Ferry, Idaho,(BCA and RMA) Naples, North Idaho (NWA) and Coeur d'Alene at (Milestones). They escort us out, move our office out and steal what they want. It happened to five therapists including me, when I worked at one school.
They almost killed the most beloved RMA therapist of all time ,Roy, by working the old guy to death until he had a heart attack and almost died. This fellow used to dress up in costumes and hand out candy canes. They told the old man he had to take over the whole therapeutic team or he was fired. This came after 10 years off dedicated service to the kids while working under tyranny - too much good for the kids as usual. He had to leave in one day like the rest of us then the heart attack. Damn Them!
Shortly thereafter, three more were packed up and ridiculed. This site is proof that the tactics they use of escorting us (or any dissenter who sides with the parents or kids) out and slandering us has not silenced or discredited us. Rather, it has mobalized us to action, to speaking the truth about them.
For me, and several other past staff, this is a mission. And if enough people speak up, parents, kids, staff, and therapists we can do to them what they did to us. But this is not about revenge. It is about justice for haggard brainwashed parents, children and staff. Finally, after 35 years Justice.
CEDU drop outs, CEDU, former staff, Former CEDU graduates, Former therapists. Now is the time. Speak up for yourself and for the dead and tortured silenced masses. JUSTICE!!!!
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You hit the nail in the head. Now if State Attorney Generals and lew enforcement officials would believe it and gat off their duffs.
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Yeah, if they would get off their asses and do what they are supposed to be doing instead of collecting taxpayer money for nothing but supporting big business.
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CEDU drop outs, CEDU, former staff, Former CEDU graduates, Former therapists. Now is the time. Speak up for yourself and for the dead and tortured silenced masses. JUSTICE!!!!
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Well I was an ordinary staff. I am still recovering from being psychologically minipulated. I'm sure glad people are talking. It was bad for me and much worse for the kids.
I hope they go out of business. Do you think they really will?
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[ This Message was edited by: Jack1963 on 2004-08-01 15:30 ]
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So true Jack - So true!!!!!!!
Has snyone else been "minipulated" by staff?
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CEDU is a huge corporate conglomerate, while they show a large deficit, they still have more than that in solid assets, and income potential. If they can throw more money at the problem areas, shut people up , they will continue on their merry way, laying waste to god knows how many more people. I wish it weren't so, but it is, it is how this country is built. also, the economy has been down for a while, money is not tossed around quite as much as in the mid 90's, the heyday of cedu expansion
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Brown schools does not have much money anymore; and if you all keep posting the truth the kids will be free and the parents can then face their problems and become mentors to their kids.
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I disagree wholeheartedly with the below quote. CEDU / Brown will not be financially able to fund a failed program for much longer.
They already sold their behavioral health facilities to pay for debt run up in the first few years of their operation. Following this, they had operating capital that was blown on physical improvements and funding losses from the decreasing population at all of the schools.
In each case, the course they take is to fire the last round of bad people in management and replace them with worse people.
Who do they choose? They choose the old guard of the Cult Brainwashing Boarding School Movement (WWASP etc.). These are people with limited knowledge and education, people, who don't realize that their time is past and the party is over.
CEDU RMA tried to train staff in 2000 to adopt a standard social service code of ethics.
The whole staff got up and refused to follow it. Not supprizingly, one can trace the beginning of the corporate disintegration to this exact incident.
Why? Because Brown was unwilling to fire dissenters; because they pretended nothing happened; beecause from that time forward the dimwit floor staff were in charge.
Thus, a precident was established at that time that if you are old-CEDU and you believe education is irrellivant, training is outside interferance, and ethics are imposed limitations then you have all the power.
This, therefore, established the persisting myth that high school graduates can run programs better than therapists.
It solidified the notion that those who understand the legal and ethical issues of treatment are worthless. It established that those who respect human rights are pawns of the liberal establishment to be scoffed at and laughed out of the room.
No, my friends, Brown/CEDU is not financialy solvent. This is the second round of losses in the tens of millions.
And, since they continue to operate outside the boundaries of ethical practice, continue to use uneducated hicks from Bonners Ferry as "counselors," continue to use token therapists to collect state school funding while ignoreing their warnings and ethical advisement, because they let uneducated and unethical people lead and manage their programs. Sorry, there will be a third round of losses in the tens of millions.
They are already gone and are just buying time, probably by lying to investors.
On 2004-04-11 13:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"CEDU is a huge corporate conglomerate, while they show a large deficit, they still have more than that in solid assets, and income potential. If they can throw more money at the problem areas, shut people up , they will continue on their merry way, laying waste to god knows how many more people. I wish it weren't so, but it is, it is how this country is built. also, the economy has been down for a while, money is not tossed around quite as much as in the mid 90's, the heyday of cedu expansion"
This clearly can't fly in today's business climate - especially the sensitive and emotionally loaded human services climate of today.
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I hope I am wrong with that post then. I do know of one lawsuit going to court probly this year, Would be nice to get a class action. If enough people signed on that is a lot of testimony, and money. I don't caer about the money, it can't buy my happiness, I want them to feel our pain
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By all means, make them feel our pain. I'm with ya all the way.
max
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Just heard that their numbers are up. Don't be discouraged though; Population always goes down big time in the summer and spring because the main reason people enroll is to get rid of their kids that are making trouble at school.
It would be really nice to blow their state school funding. They get it under false pretences by using the therapists to legitimise what is nothing more than bad babysitting by child abusers.
I doubt that, out of the fifty or so therapists that have worked there, you could find more than two that consider what they do legitimate therapy. And, we all know the education is anything but education.
Chime in on how well we were educated at BCA RMA CEDU High and NWA. It is a joke.
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[ This Message was edited by: former CEDU therapist on 2004-08-01 22:48 ]
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This is True - They won't last the summer. Bring on the pressure. Tell the truth folks. "Tell it all Brothers and Sisters."
The Truth shall set all those suffering scapegoated kids free. Tell it
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"I used to piss CEDU off by giving the kids snacks, treats, and cocoa. They wanted me to not do that. I said it was my session, the parents were paying, and it was none of their business. I was appalled that they wanted to deny a kid a couple of cookies!"
Sounds like you did a great job of buying kids respect and undermining policies. Just what every employer looks for in a good employee.
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I know a lot of kids who recieved much needed comfort from their therapists. It was cruel and unusual punishment that the staff continuously handed out to these children. They did not want the kids to have any joy in their life except what the counselors handed out to them. And most kids got zero!!!!!
Thank you for showing kindness to those kids fortunate enough to be seen by you.
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State funding? Good, that opens them up to a federal lawsuit. Study the Milonas V. Provo Canyon School lawsuit that was filed in the late '80s, I believe.
Find a lawyer who will file a lawsuit on behalf of a couple of students (like Milonas and Rice). Deep pockets while not always the first concern, are nevertheless a top priority with lawyers considering taking on a case of this magnitude.
The legal and consitutional rights of children are nearly impossible to enforce in programs that do not accept state/federal funds, which is why civil lawsuits are almost always the only option.
Funding via Medicare/Medicaid, or IEP's also qualify the institution as being under "color of state law" and therefore, not supported entirely by private funding (meaning parents).
Good luck!
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At least someone AT cedu IS PROVIDING A VALUABLE SERVICE BESIDES ABUSE - LARRY