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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 11, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
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In reference to Yahoo's "Limbaugh Seeks Help for Pill Addiction": http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... 9&ncid=716 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031011/ap_on_re_us/limbaugh_painkillers&cid=519&ncid=716)
Dear Bette,
Now that your right wing propaganda man Rush Limbaugh has been busted over DRUGS in FLORIDA, the state that you reign over so supremely, what are your recommendations going to be for him that you convey to Jebby? I just love watching your little empire on its infant stages of a total collapse. It gratifies me to no end knowing that Bradbury is ruining you and the Smelly ass putz of a husband of yours ~ LMAO, and now your propaganda man falls silent. Shoulda done ya homework Bette. All them fascist laws you made possible in the State of Florida are now coming back to bite you in the ass. We are ALL watching you here Bette, all the victims of your hell camps known as STRAIGHT, INC. Bette, we're watching you. Do yourself a favor and don't try and get Jebby to let poooooooooor Rush off Bette. It will only look worse on you, we WILL find out your tag-team was behind it and hold all those you DARE to influence with the blood money you suck off our parents accountable in court.
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Thank you, darling. ... You can dispense sheer bitchery with the best of them.....Betty's sinking
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[ This Message was edited by: kaydeejaded on 2004-03-03 08:41 ]
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I find it interesting how even the media coverage on this is a bit sterile, and not as sensationalized. I get the strong distinction that it is an attempt at making the whole thing strangely "legitimate" if you will. Poor Rush, he had surgery, he was in pain, blah blah....and it seems that because he was forced to take medication, that the evil pills grabbed hold of him and took over. Sad thing that, this is why you just say no kids....etc.
Usually the media has a field day ripping these sort of things to itty witty pieces, why are they being soft on Rush?
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Sad thing that, this is why you just say no kids....etc.
Huh? :???:
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You know....as if those are the kinds of things they are attempting to get people to say or think...."So sad for Rush"...."Just say no,kids"...etc. get my drift? Rather than taking the perspective of the typical media thrashing, it seems that the whole things smacks of pity.
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On 2003-10-12 06:44:00, Carmel wrote:
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Usually the media has a field day ripping these sort of things to itty witty pieces, why are they being soft on Rush?"
If he had taken a stand against the government's war on pain management, they would be ripping him up. But, instead, he's confessed his sins at the alter of NA and will now proceed to step two. He'll do his stint, be very contrite and come out a hero for having worked his program. Just watch. :roll: To seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.
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Ok, I'm with you. The wording there threw me off a little. Thanks.. :smile:
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Because if you are loud mouthed and nasty to Rush, you will then look like Rush. Not Fat and Intemperate, but like a Sanctimonious Ass. I think this is the mainstream media's way of telling Rush he should have shut up a long time ago.
CL
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On 2003-10-12 12:32:00, Antigen wrote:
But, instead, he's confessed his sins at the alter of NA and will now proceed to step two.
Ginger:
Isn't this step 5? I can't imagine Rush humbly asking anything! So much for step 6!
CL
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Well Rush is back on the air as of today Bette, are you fixin' to have him acquitted of his "drug crimes" in Florida? He says according to your hometown paper The St. Petersburg times, "In the past, Limbaugh had decried drug use and abuse on his bluntly conservative show, arguing that drug crimes deserve punishment."~
Here is the link to that Bette: http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... CTION=HOME (http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/RUSH_LIMBAUGH_RETURNS?SITE=FLPET&SECTION=HOME)
We are watching how you deal with Rush Bette, better let Jebby know that. What's good for the chain ganger on the side of the Florida interstate picking up trash is good enough for Rush Bette. We'd hate to see you deliver hypocrisy Bette.
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An excerpt from the Rush Limbaugh broadcast today:
All right, ladies and gentlemen. I must tell you, I'm nervous. I have butterflies in my stomach. I've been anticipating this moment since last Thursday - actually, since last Wednesday afternoon. Last Wednesday afternoon I was discharged from the treatment center which, by the way, was not in Tucson. We succeeded in fooling everybody on that. It was in Arizona but it wasn't in Tucson, and it was an intense four weeks. I'm going to tell you the truth; I didn't - well, I did read a newspaper two or three days, but didn't watch much television, kept track of no news. That would have been counterproductive to what I had to do.
I spent five intense weeks, probably the most educational and informative five weeks on myself and about me that I ever have spent, and I would have had no idea how to do this myself. Now, I've thought back and forth how much of this to talk about, and I am just going to feel my way along on this. I planned nothing. I have nothing written down here. There are some things, though, I do want to tell you, and I think in the course of the coming days a number of the things that I have learned about myself and a number of the things that I want to share with you will just come out in the normal course of conversation and executing broadcast excellence flawlessly as I am known for and still habitually capable of doing.
But I came to realize a number of things while I was away, and at the top of the list is how much I love all of you, how much I appreciate all of you, and how much this and other aspects of my life mean to me. And I know that a number of you - you ought to see the mail I've gotten, the e-mail and the phone response. The volume is beyond my ability to describe. You wouldn't believe it, and if I told you how much it is, people would think "hype." But it's so voluminous; it's so amazingly supportive that it is - it's just gratifying. I have a tremendous amount of gratitude for all that you have done for me over the course of my life.
You know, I've always told you people at holiday time, Thanksgiving or Christmas, because many of you have shared with me how much this program has meant to you over the years and I've always said to you that no matter how much it means to you, you have no idea how much it means to me, your being there - and that is as true as ever, if not more so. What I endured was a wonderful process. It's something that, at some point, I think what I went through in these last five weeks is as important as the first grade, and maybe the second grade. It's something that I don't have any regrets, but, yeah, I wish it's something I could have done 30 years ago.
I thought I was going into a treatment center to be treated for an addiction to opiates, to painkillers, and I was - but it's so much more than that. It is about so much more than that. I tried to treat myself twice for my addiction. I detoxed myself twice and tried to do it by force of will, but this is something someone cannot do alone. It's something that requires several things to change in my life - and those things are good. These things are quite necessary, and I have to put this recovery that I am in first and foremost. It's something that is new a priority for me. I cannot turn it over to anybody else. Nobody can do it for me.
It's something that I must do, but I can't do it alone, either. It's an amazing thing. Those of you who have gone through this and those of you who are in successful recovery know what you have gone through to succeed and what's ahead of you, and you know what's ahead of me, and it's not something that I want to spend a whole lot of time talking about to those of you who don't. Although, as I say, over the course of the coming weeks and days, I think it will just naturally be a part of me, these five weeks and the things that I learned about myself. You just will witness it. I don't want to sit here and start telling you, you know, "This is going to happen and this is going to happen and this is going to happen."
I think you'll just be able to decipher it and understand it as it is happening. Now, one other thing. Ladies and gentlemen, I know that because of some comments that I got many people feel and think that when you go to a rehabilitation center for addictions or other things, that the people in there turn you into a linguini-spined liberal, and that's not true. No effort was made whatsoever. There's no ideological reference whatsoever in these things. It has nothing to do with that. So I am who I am. Nobody made any attempt to change me in terms of my core and this sort of thing, other than as it relates to the problem I have, the addiction. But that's, again, something that I deal with myself, and there's a part of it that will be shared.
But, again, I'm really struggling. I want you to know that I've got mixed emotions. I'm so excited about what I've learned, I want to tell you all about it. And there's another part of me that says, "No, that's not what you want." And so that's it. I have to do what's best for me if I'm to succeed at this. I can no longer anticipate what I think people want and try to give that to them. I can no longer try to live my life by making other people happy. I can no longer turn over the power of my feelings to anybody else, which is what I have done a lot of my life. I have thought that I had to be this way or that way in order to be liked or appreciated or understood - and in the process, I denied myself who I was and I denied the other people I was talking to and relating with who I really am, and that isn't good.
You can boil it down to one real simple essence: I can't be responsible for anybody's happiness but my own, and if I allow somebody else the power to determine my happiness, then...well...that's something I don't want to do. I can't do any longer. I put myself first. Doesn't mean be rudely selfish. It just means I can't depend on other people to make me happy. I have to do that myself. I'm the only one who has control over that. And I have to admit that I am powerless over this addiction that I have. I used to think I could beat it with force of will. I used to think that I would be different, but I'm not.
I'm just like anybody else who has an addiction. I'm powerless over it, and I have to continue to recognize that and make sure that the things that I've learned continue to be practiced. It's a challenge, but it's exciting. The things that I have discovered about myself and anybody who went through what I've went through would discover about themselves is just sort of like being reborn here at age 50. Have you ever wished that you could take what you know at whatever age you are, 50, 45, 30, and go back to being a teenager? Well, that's what I guess is a good way to tell you what's happened to me, in the sense that the things I've learned - I can now not relive things, but it's going to give new meaning to the future.
What say we find out where he was, learn some of the lingo from his particular cult and then spend every Friday morning calling in and confronting him? C'Mon, it'll be fun! ::rocker::
If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.
--Thomas Paine
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Sure, why not? If you have time for that sort of thing...I have to admit, I have always had a big weakness for prank phone calls...
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You know, if he hadn't been such a shit head to crack heads and such, I'd say, "Give him a break, please." Rush, however having been a real shit-head, deserves to sleep in the bed he's made for himself. Gotta watch those opinions, they're likely to bit ones ass.
CL
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Rush is about the greatest american politico since Ronald Reagan. His truth about the war on drugs and the scumbags that deal it and the poloicies of the american president are right on!! I know this will upset people, but I think Rush would be a great VP candidate if Cheny were to die. Just my humble opinion.
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I was going to say something nasty but my computer is running really slow so by the time the window opened up I had time to reflect upon it..... so............... everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Have a nice day! :smokin: Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic. The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom.
--Abridged quote-Benjamin Rush, M.D., a signer of the Declaration of Independence
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I'm the only one who has control over that. And I have to admit that I am powerless over this addiction that I have.
Well, there you have it. The essence of all cults. You have to admit a "higher power" into your life because, if you relapse (and you will,) you can acknowledge how weak you are. beat yourself up about it then call on this "higher power" to help, and therefore abrogate all personal responsibility for your condition.
The biggest assholes about smoking are former smokers. (I know, because I'm a former smoker).
I recently met an (allegedly) former cocaine addict. When I told him I was representing a 20 yr old who'd been charged with trafficking Methamphetamine, he said, "I hope he goes to jail and they throw away the key (even though the guy is in "treatment" for his addiction). So what this member of NA is telling me is that he himself accepts NO responsibility for his own addiction but blames it on some "Pusher".
It was Steppenwolf that coined the phrase, I believe, "Goddamm the Pusher Man" Unfortunately, this stereotype has been picked up on by the drug warriors. But the majority of people who might experiment with drugs choose to do so. Nobody forces them. Some might become addicted. some for a short time and then cease on their own. But the least successful "treatment" of all for addiction is forced treatment of the AA, NA, twelve step kind. Why? because it does not distinguishe between abuse and use, because it is hypocritical, because it refutes personal responsibility in recognition of a "higher power", and because it denies that the "addict" had any control in the first place. In other words, the addict is a victim of the pusher. This is nonsense. Rush Limbaugh needs to admit that he became addicted because he LIKED what the drugs did to him. Many many people, including users of alcohol recognize early on that they can like the drug, they recognize the seductiveness, recognise the need to take personal control and moderate or eliminate its use. Rush Limbaugh is so supremely hypocritical if he denies that he was aware of the drug's seductiveness early on. He MUST have known, since he expounds so much on the subject.
But he CHOSE to ignore the warning signs that he so eloquently criticizes others for ignoring.
Education about drugs is necessary but not the sort of crap that exudes from the orifices of these inufferable, self-righteous pricks.
I'll be watching Rush to see whether he will continue his persecution of tose who fail to see the light as he sees it.
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On 2003-11-18 14:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
" His truth about the war on drugs and the scumbags that deal it and the poloicies of the american president are right on!!
What truth is that? That it's OK for white Republican men to snort a lot of coke and eat a lot of pills, but other people who do the same should be strung up? Or, worse, force fed Prozac? :roll:
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Well Bette?
Looks like yur Rush boy was "Doctor shopping" for pills. Looks like he was going to many doctors fur his "pain" and having the same scripts written and not letting one know that the other was writing the same exact script. I think that is against the law BETTE.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/12/04/limbaugh.records/ (http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/12/04/limbaugh.records/)
Are ya gittin' yur Florida cronies in line to prosecute yur main cheerleader cheeseburger eatin boy Rush Limbo yet? We ARE watching you, please don't disappoint us by making us have to add ONE more thing onto the shit list of Semblerdom. Better do the right thing and prosecute him under the laws YOU created honey.
Bwwhahahahahahah!!!!!
Seems there are others that feel the same way we do Bette: http://www.journalstandard.com/articles ... tter01.txt (http://www.journalstandard.com/articles/2003/11/30/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/letter01.txt)
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"Unfortunately, because of Mr. Limbaugh's prominence and well-known political opinions, he is being subjected to an invasion of privacy no citizen of this republic should endure,"
--Limbaugh's lawyer, famed criminal defense attorney Roy Black
So then... what about the other million or more less well known people who suffer the same humiliation every damned year? Anybody think they're better off just quietly losing their children, homes and jobs and going to prison? :roll:
Fucking open hypocrites! I hate these bastards!
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't.
-- Anonymous
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Thanks Bette, I knew you'd see 'reason", nice to see you making Rush pratice what you preach. See ya in court honey :rofl:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/23/limbaugh.hearing/ (http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/23/limbaugh.hearing/)
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WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (CNN) -- A Florida judge Tuesday ordered radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh's medical records released to prosecutors in connection with an investigation into his prescription drug purchases.
But Judge Jeffrey Winikoff ordered prosecutors to keep the conservative commentator's records under wraps while they conduct their investigation.
The ruling came a day after an attorney for Limbaugh charged that the conservative talk show host was being blackmailed by the Florida couple whose allegations triggered an ongoing investigation into his purchases of painkillers.
Limbaugh in October admitted being addicted to prescription painkillers and spent five weeks in a drug-rehabilitation clinic after his former housekeeper disclosed his habit to a supermarket tabloid.
Prosecutors are investigating whether Limbaugh obtained and used prescription painkillers illegally and want the records opened. Limbaugh has insisted he has done nothing illegal, and no charges have yet been filed against Limbaugh.
"The state has clearly demonstrated the relevance or nexus between seizing Mr. Limbaugh's medical records and this ongoing criminal investigation," Winikoff said in his Tuesday ruling.
According to court documents, the investigation centers on whether Limbaugh engaged in "doctor shopping" -- getting multiple prescriptions from several doctors that he could not have received from just one. Such an offense is a felony under Florida law.
Investigators say Limbaugh obtained about 2,000 pills during five months, sometimes getting multiple prescriptions less than a month apart, according to court documents.
Earlier this month, prosecutors executed search warrants to seize Limbaugh's medical records from two doctors. Under Florida law, a judge must give his approval before prosecutors can review those records.
At a hearing Monday afternoon, Limbaugh's attorneys argued that authorities should not be given access to the records, saying prosecutors could have used "less intrusive means" to obtain information for their investigation, such as issuing subpoenas to doctors for records and information.
But prosecutors argued that the records are relevant and necessary to an ongoing investigation into how Limbaugh obtained painkillers. Assistant State Attorney James Martz said prosecutors feared records could be altered if authorities subpoenaed them, rather than seizing them
Limbaugh attorney alleges blackmail
During a Monday hearing on access to Limbaugh's medical records, attorney Roy Black said Limbaugh paid "extreme amounts of money" to Wilma Cline, his former housekeeper, and her husband, first for pills and then for extortion. Black alleged that the Clines had threatened to go public with information about Limbaugh's drug use unless they received $4 million.
Black said Limbaugh wanted to contact the FBI, but was told by an unidentified friend that if he went to the authorities, they would target him, and his political enemies would use the information against him.
"That's exactly what happened," said Black, who also alleged that Cline's husband was a convicted drug trafficker.
Sources have told CNN that the investigation into Limbaugh's drug use began in February when Cline, who once worked as a housekeeper at his home in West Palm Beach, went to authorities.
The Clines later went public with their charges in the National Enquirer, alleging that Limbaugh's representative had paid them hush money. Sources said the couple was paid a six-figure sum for their story.
CNN Producer Allison Flexner contributed to this report.
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There will come a day Betty when you are in prison.
Merry Xmas from all the children you abused..............
God is on our side you sick example of a human being...........
SO LET IT BE WRITTEN SO LET IT BE DONE!
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His truth about the war on drugs and the scumbags that deal it
If by "the scumbags" you mean the CIA, then I agree. :scared: :lol:
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When delivering something like an important letter or other written materials, grasp it firmly in your hand as you go and do not release it once, but hand it over directly to the recipient.
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Gee Bette,
Is it true now that Rush is asking the prosecutors if they wanna.... 'make a deal'???
Isn't it funny that for some reason, the "Prosecutors decline Rush Limbaugh's plea offer"???? I guess you have a lot of face to save, right honey?? There he goes - one of your mouth pieces over to the lions who enforced all the laws you inspired, was "Betty Sembler Day" really worth it now? We'll just let your Florida inspired laws take care of Rush and someday, the Feds will be questioning you and hubby as well. :smile:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/ne ... 779434.htm (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/breaking_news/7779434.htm)
Posted on Fri, Jan. 23, 2004
Prosecutors decline Rush Limbaugh's plea offer
JILL BARTON
Associated Press
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Prosecutors rejected a deal Rush Limbaugh's attorney suggested that would have seen the conservative radio commentator enter a drug intervention program rather than face charges for illegally obtaining prescription painkillers, records show.
Instead, Palm Beach County prosecutors wanted Limbaugh to plead guilty to the third-degree felony of "doctor shopping" - visiting several doctors to receive duplicate prescriptions of a controlled narcotic.
According to records of exchanges between prosecutors and Limbaugh's attorney, the prosecutors' offer included three years' probation, participation in a drug treatment program and random drug testing. Limbaugh has been under investigation for months, has not been arrested and no charges have been filed.
Limbaugh's attorney, Roy Black, dismissed the prosecutors' offer and pointed in his letters to a state policy against prosecuting addicts. Black said Palm Beach State Attorney Barry Krischer had told him prosecutors instead go after drug dealers and doctors who illegally prescribe medications.
Limbaugh's attorneys began discussing the case with prosecutors in early October - more than a week before Limbaugh stunned listeners by admitting he was addicted to prescription painkillers and would leave his show for five weeks to enter rehab.
The letters and court records were first obtained by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel through a public records request and disclosed in a story the newspaper published Friday.
In an attempt to head off charges, Black wrote prosecutors on Dec. 11 to suggest that his client enter a court-sponsored drug intervention program without a guilty plea.
"I believe this proposal would be in keeping with the public interest," Black wrote. "The public is better served by treating addicts as patients rather than criminals."
Prosecutor James Martz wrote back on Dec. 15 that an intervention program alone was not sufficient. He said prosecutors had enough evidence to support more than 10 felony charges.
Martz said a guilty plea would allow prosecutors to drop their efforts to unseal Limbaugh's medical records.
On. Dec. 22, Limbaugh's attorneys denied to reporters that he was seeking a deal. It was unclear Friday whether the prosecution offer is still on the table.
In a statement Friday, Black called the prosecutors' offer "ludicrous." He said he was asking "for the same treatment anyone else in this situation would receive" and said the state's response was "consistent with their double standard in this case."
"The facts are: Mr. Limbaugh went to these doctors to relieve chronic, intractable pain; there was no doctor shopping," Black said.
Black criticized the letters' release, saying it violates the Florida statutes, the rules of procedure and evidence, and Florida Bar Rules. In his Dec. 11 letter marked "confidential," Black listed Florida statutes that showed why it should not be released.
"Because the state has no case against Mr. Limbaugh they continually seek to discredit him in the media," Black said in Friday's statement.
But prosecutors said they consulted with public records experts from the Florida Attorney General's office and the Florida Bar because they were worried that releasing the letter could raise questions of professional responsibility.
But those experts said that Florida's public records law takes precedence, adding that there was an ethical and legal obligation to release the letter.
Prosecutors began their investigation of Limbaugh, 53, last year, after his former maid told them she was Limbaugh's longtime supplier of prescription painkillers.
The investigation is being held up while an appeals court decides whether investigators should have access to Limbaugh's medical records. Investigators seized them in November, but courts have ordered them sealed. Limbaugh's attorneys have argued that the seizure violated his privacy rights.
Limbaugh and his attorneys argue that the investigation is politically motivated and that the medical records would only prove Limbaugh was prescribed painkillers for a serious medical condition, leading to his addiction.
Limbaugh has also repeatedly criticized the investigation during his nationwide radio show and has accused authorities of leaking information to damage his reputation. His show reaches some 600 markets and about 20 million listeners a week.
Palm Beach County State Attorney spokesman Mike Edmondson declined comment Friday.
Krischer, the state attorney, has repeatedly said prosecutors are protecting Limbaugh's rights and that he is presumed innocent.