Fornits
General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: ajax13 on September 12, 2010, 02:08:08 PM
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http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn ... 2/goldberg (http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/12/goldberg)
Jeffrey Goldberg, in the new cover story in The Atlantic, on an Israeli attack on Iran:
Israel has twice before successfully attacked and destroyed an enemy's nuclear program. In 1981, Israeli warplanes bombed the Iraqi reactor at Osirak, halting -- forever, as it turned out -- Saddam Hussein's nuclear ambitions; and in 2007, Israeli planes destroyed a North Korean-built reactor in Syria. An attack on Iran, then, would be unprecedented only in scope and complexity.
Good news! Israel can successfully end a country's nuclear program by bombing them, as proven by its 1981 attack on Iraq, which, says Goldberg, halted "forever, as it turned out -- Saddam Hussein’s nuclear ambitions."
Jeffrey Goldberg, The New Yorker, 2002, trying to convince Americans to fear Iraq:
Saddam Hussein never gave up his hope of turning Iraq into a nuclear power. After the Osirak attack, he rebuilt, redoubled his efforts, and dispersed his facilities. Those who have followed Saddam's progress believe that no single strike today would eradicate his nuclear program.
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It's time to let this go. This isn't a battle worth fighting, and you're only setting yourself up to be banned. Just post this in the open free for all and move on.
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If he wants to ban me based on the false preteneses he's put out, by all means I hope he does.
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If he wants to ban me based on the false preteneses he's put out, by all means I hope he does.
I'm banning you for 7 days because you refuse to use correct titles for threads. No other reason.
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You've got to be absolutely shitting me psy.
What a fucking crock of shit.
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You've got to be absolutely shitting me psy.
What a fucking crock of shit.
He did it four times before. I warned him. He refused again and again. You're the one who was urging me to put my foot down earlier. I'm not going to play favorites. You violate the rules, you get warned, and you still refuse...
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So you really are going to ban a guy who for the longest time was one of the sole voices of opposition against AARC over something as pissant as a "deceptive" thread label?
Please, make Danny the fucking jerk off programmie lover an admin while you are at it.
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So you really are going to ban a guy who for the longest time was one of the sole voices of opposition against AARC over something as pissant as a "deceptive" thread label?
For 7 days, yes. Just because somebody is on "my side" doesn't give them the right to violate the rules after being repeatedly warned. The law is going to be blind here.
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So you really are going to ban a guy who for the longest time was one of the sole voices of opposition against AARC over something as pissant as a "deceptive" thread label?
Please, make Danny the fucking jerk off programmie lover an admin while you are at it.
Che, When you draw a line in the sand you have to stand by it. The toughest thing to do is enforce it on a friend or someone who you agree with. But unless it is done then the rules are meaningless. Maybe it will later be determined that the rules are too strict or are written up poorly, maybe they need to be changed, some may be dropped and others added. Moderation is an ongoing process and if it turns out that the rules are too harsh or only apply to a select group or over time are determined to be ineffective then they will change and evolve.
But dont come down on Psy for enforcing rules that we all have been well aware of for a few days now. He has the shitty job right now, you dont.
As a teacher you know that when you define new rules that you will have to undergo the painful process of enforcing them..... which means detention for a student ( and time after class for you too). When you make new rules there is a reason for them and you should know they will be broken because that is all part of the learning process..... change sucks, is painful and takes time.
I see this as a cultural change which will take time to implement. Its a big step for fornits and something new.
I am not going to talk too much about this because I am sure I am on the short list of those who have a high probability of breaking the rules and will be banned very quickly if I do.
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Whooter. This topic is in Open Free For All now. It's unmoderated. Feel free to break the rules here if you want.
I am on the short list of those who have a high probability of breaking the rules and will be banned very quickly if I do.
I am not you-know-who. There is no list and you're not going to be treated differently than anybody else.
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So you really are going to ban a guy who for the longest time was one of the sole voices of opposition against AARC over something as pissant as a "deceptive" thread label?
Please, make Danny the fucking jerk off programmie lover an admin while you are at it.
Che, I know your angry and all of us know why.(China)It has nothing to do with the politics of Fornits, either. This is why I am not going to lash out at you. I know you don't really mean what your saying.
So many of you old timers keep telling us about the old times and what you have done years ago, well that is great but this industry is about, what have you done for me lately.
Busting Psy's balls over every little thing he does to your buddies is not helping at all here. It is making you look foolish because he is dealing with a personal friend of his. Take your crap to PM, cut him some slack if he (Psy) is your friend. Jesus, your part of the administration here, act like it.
Let me ask you a question, "have you ever run a Web Site such as this" I doubt it. Trust me brother with your personality and mine, we would not last 2 days.
Since when did I become a program lover?????? Yeah, I just loved Elan.
Just my 2 cents.
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So you really are going to ban a guy who for the longest time was one of the sole voices of opposition against AARC over something as pissant as a "deceptive" thread label?
Please, make Danny the fucking jerk off programmie lover an admin while you are at it.
Che, I know your angry and all of us know why.(China)It has nothing to do with the politics of Fornits, either. This is why I am not going to lash out at you. I know you don't really mean what your saying.
So many of you old timers keep telling us about the old times and what you have done years ago, well that is great but this industry is about, what have you done for me lately.
Busting Psy's balls over every little thing he does to your buddies is not helping at all here. It is making you look foolish because he is dealing with a personal friend of his. Take your crap to PM, cut him some slack if he (Psy) is your friend. Jesus, your part of the administration here, act like it.
Let me ask you a question, "have you ever run a Web Site such as this" I doubt it. Trust me brother with your personality and mine, we would not last 2 days.
Since when did I become a program lover?????? Yeah, I just loved Elan.
Just my 2 cents.
Danny, you are quite possibly the stupidest motherfucker to walk the planet earth. I'm going to encourage you to fall off the wagon as quickly as you can. At least crawling into the nearest bottle will make you sound semi-lucid for a change. Ajax never has been one of my "little" buddies. Don't even presume to lecture me on what I can and have done when you know that little about me.
That last sentiment alone is why nearly everyone here on this forum holds you in absolutely utter contempt as a complete walking sack of fucking shit who ought to be tossed with the nearest trash.
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So you really are going to ban a guy who for the longest time was one of the sole voices of opposition against AARC over something as pissant as a "deceptive" thread label?
Please, make Danny the fucking jerk off programmie lover an admin while you are at it.
I never in a million years thought I would say this, but CHE is absolutely correct. Fully correct. I cannot believe you suspended someone when you allow others to run around with no leashes daily.
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I bet I am next on the hit list because I will not tolerate Crazy Jane and Froderik to throw up all over me...Fornits keeps ruining its own reputation daily, just daily. The most insane thing of them all is I actually agreed with Che which is a miracle within itself.
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Where is Whooter when you need him....good God, this place has gone nutso completely.
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I bet I am next on the hit list because I will not tolerate Crazy Jane and Froderik to throw up all over me...Fornits keeps ruining its own reputation daily, just daily. The most insane thing of them all is I actually agreed with Che which is a miracle within itself.
1. I don't see where Frod did anything to you personally. What I did see him do was post an emoticon to show his frustration at the level the attention whoring has risen to by all parties over in the Elan threads, which I think the majority of us share.
2. Fornits isn't ruining its reputation. A few posters have made it damn near impossible to carry on a conversation at all, let alone a civilized one.
3. Che is actually a pretty smart cookie. I don't always agree with the way he gets his point across, but he does make good ones quite regularly.
Have a good weekend guys.....I'm outta here! :cheers: ::poke:: :jerry: :rocker: :rofl: :beat: :o :spam: :fuckoff: :deal: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:
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How the hell do I keep getting myself mentioned in these situations?
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Also, psy and I worked out our differences in private in order not to create a larger situation over Ajax. I'm fine with how he handled things and agree that he acted correctly. He also agrees with some of my points and I owned up to speaking poorly of him on the forums. So whatever is being done here with my previous comments know that you are doing so without all of the story.
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3. Che is actually a pretty smart cookie. I don't always agree with the way he gets his point across, but he does make good ones quite regularly.
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Che wrote:
How the hell do I keep getting myself mentioned in these situations?
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Che wrote:
Danny, you are quite possibly the stupidest motherfucker to walk the planet earth. I'm going to encourage you to fall off the wagon as quickly as you can. At least crawling into the nearest bottle will make you sound semi-lucid for a change. Ajax never has been one of my "little" buddies. Don't even presume to lecture me on what I can and have done when you know that little about me.
That last sentiment alone is why nearly everyone here on this forum holds you in absolutely utter contempt as a complete walking sack of fucking shit who ought to be tossed with the nearest trash.[/color]
This is what were talking about Che. You don't think before you type. Stop reacting.
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Also, psy and I worked out our differences in private in order not to create a larger situation over Ajax. I'm fine with how he handled things and agree that he acted correctly. He also agrees with some of my points and I owned up to speaking poorly of him on the forums. So whatever is being done here with my previous comments know that you are doing so without all of the story.
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The damage you created was already done.
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Pointing out that you are a sorry sack of shit isn't at anyway at all damaging to Psy.
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Pointing out that you are a sorry sack of shit isn't at anyway at all damaging to Psy.
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Throw away the shovel.