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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: SUCK IT on August 23, 2010, 12:07:41 AM
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This thread documents the process of how an admin of fornits breaks their own rules. Your IP information is supposed to be kept secret here. My IP information was released against my wishes, and used against me all because I harbor opinions contrary to the acceptable group think. I hope you read through this thread up until post 200 and see the process of how an admin will compromise their principles in order to win an argument. It's an interesting thread, enjoy.
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I never went to a program, I made it all up. I am program parent who is brainwashed, trying to convince parents on fornits to send their kids to programs, like I did. Please disregard everything I have ever said on fornits, because it's not true. Every program is abusive and program parents like me should kill themselves.
Explanation: I am taking an indefinite break from fornits starting from this point. It has been made clear to me via email and text message that somebody here is not happy with my opinions and is threatening to fax my posts about drug use and suicide to my boss, which they confirmed they know who it is. I am a new employee and this drama would likely end in me being fired, and unfortunately I cannot take this chance at this point in my life. I have stated my opinions, and you know how I truly feel. I was instructed to post this thread titled "I am a bitch" and to confirm that I am really a program parent pretending to be a troubled teen because I'm brainwashed. Well I did it, but I will not leave without an explanation. I know you are reading this. I did what you asked, if you have any semblance of a soul you will let this end now. If I get fired it's not just my life that will be ruined, people depend on me. I'd ask that all my posts are deleted but I know they have already been copied. So long, fornits.
Quoting to make sure it's not deleted.
WHOEVER THE FUCK DOXED HIM
QUIT THREATENING AND FUCKING RUIN HIS ASS
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I never went to a program, I made it all up. I am program parent who is brainwashed, trying to convince parents on fornits to send their kids to programs, like I did. Please disregard everything I have ever said on fornits, because it's not true. Every program is abusive and program parents like me should kill themselves.
Explanation: I am taking an indefinite break from fornits starting from this point. It has been made clear to me via email and text message that somebody here is not happy with my opinions and is threatening to fax my posts about drug use and suicide to my boss, which they confirmed they know who it is. I am a new employee and this drama would likely end in me being fired, and unfortunately I cannot take this chance at this point in my life. I have stated my opinions, and you know how I truly feel. I was instructed to post this thread titled "I am a bitch" and to confirm that I am really a program parent pretending to be a troubled teen because I'm brainwashed. Well I did it, but I will not leave without an explanation. I know you are reading this. I did what you asked, if you have any semblance of a soul you will let this end now. If I get fired it's not just my life that will be ruined, people depend on me. I'd ask that all my posts are deleted but I know they have already been copied. So long, fornits.
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Of course, it's probably another troll and he's probably going to go "Oh look at how much those evil fornits members want to silence my freedom of speech" and other bullshit tomorrow, but a man can dream, can't he?
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I actually don't even know who the guy is. I just made it up to troll people. However, I know what it is like being DOXed. Good luck with that.
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- SHOVE IT SUCK IT - :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker:
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Quoting to make sure it's not deleted.
WHOEVER THE FUCK DOXED HIM
QUIT THREATENING AND FUCKING RUIN HIS ASS
Yeah. I'd have to call bullshit on that. If somebody did have the info SUCK IT claims the deed would already be done. Compassion for program supporters is not exactly in great supply around here.
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A man can dream, Psy. A man can dream.
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This is almost too easy. I think i'll just leave this one alone. It's gotta' be a trap.
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Yeah, just the way he phrased it makes it obvious, although it's possible that his new owner made him do that just for irony. We'll know soon enough because this troll can't stop posting for very long even when he promises he'll be gone.
But just the idea that even more people (Proxied, perhaps?) are completely crushing these fucks out of the blue, with no hesitation? That's a happy thought and an ideal to strive for.
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Wow, SUCK IT, when I was getting death threats by telephone you dismissed it as "crank calls" and called me "paranoid." Now you're on the other end and singing a different tune. People like you can dish it out (like starting several threads calling me a 'child rapist') but you sure can't take it. SUCK IT will now be henceforth known as the biggest pansy ever to post here. Coulda grown some nuts and confronted the problem head-on like his program "taught" him but instead ran away from his problems like he has done his whole life. Later, loser.
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Look, he's supporting wwasp...
Most of us know that WWASP for the most part is hell on earth. You have to ask yourself how anyone could have a "good experience" in a WWASP program. I mean think about it...
Is there more to that user name than he lets on?
Or did he turn into one of those little sell bitches who ratted on their peers every five minutes to gain favor with staff?
The thing you clowns missed in all of this is the argument that his positive experiences are completely irrelevant. What makes them irrelevant is the sheer number of the horrid abuses suffered by kids in WWASP programs. One, ten, ten thousand positive WWASP experience do not matter. None of those experiences can wash away the horrific stains of abuse and torment suffered by the kids in the WWASP programs.
None of these positive "experiences" can change the hell of Tranquility Bay.
None of them can brush off the hell of Samoa, Costa Rica, and Spring Creek Lodge.
So really, suck it can take his positive "experience" and shove it.
The only thing he's doing is promoting for a company that is fueled by human suffering. Where is his sense of outrage at the kids locked in dog cages in Mexico? The fact that he has none shows me a lot about him as a person.
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Wow, SUCK IT, when I was getting death threats by telephone you dismissed it as "crank calls" and called me "paranoid." Now you're on the other end and singing a different tune. People like you can dish it out (like starting several threads calling me a 'child rapist') but you sure can't take it. SUCK IT will now be henceforth known as the biggest pansy ever to post here. Coulda grown some nuts and confronted the problem head-on like his program "taught" him but instead ran away from his problems like he has done his whole life. Later, loser.
QFT (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=368851#p368851)
Two things are out of bounds IMHO - going after someone's family or livelihood. I've had both done to me.
A few years ago we were getting threatening calls in the middle of the night and it scared my poor wife near to death. There has been a loaded 12 gage riot gun (7 shells in the mag and one in the hole) under the bed ever since. Some people are just plain crazy and there's no way to predict their behavior. I'm taking no chances. Invade my home and you're guaranteed to take a pair of #2 rounds first (point-and-pull) followed by as many 00's (aim steady and finish the job) as it takes.
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What's your point? I didn't DOX this idiot. All I did was point out the incredible hypocrisy shown by him. Then again, you should be familiar with it, Whooter. You are the biggest hypocrite on Fornits. You're the guy who "outs" program kids by name claiming to have access to their treatment records and then you cry like a little bitch (ala SUCK IT) when anybody says anything about you. You're just as big a loser as your sockpuppet, SUCK IT. And a bigger crybaby. :waaaa: :waaaa: :roflmao:
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Dox isn't an acronym you faggots.
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Another Classic! Just for clarity.......DJ calls SUCK IT a pansy but cant fall sleep himself without a loaded shot gun under his bed.
Wow, SUCK IT, when I was getting death threats by telephone you dismissed it as "crank calls" and called me "paranoid." Now you're on the other end and singing a different tune. People like you can dish it out (like starting several threads calling me a 'child rapist') but you sure can't take it. SUCK IT will now be henceforth known as the biggest pansy ever to post here. Coulda grown some nuts and confronted the problem head-on like his program "taught" him but instead ran away from his problems like he has done his whole life. Later, loser.
QFT (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=368851#p368851)
Two things are out of bounds IMHO - going after someone's family or livelihood. I've had both done to me.
A few years ago we were getting threatening calls in the middle of the night and it scared my poor wife near to death. There has been a loaded 12 gage riot gun (7 shells in the mag and one in the hole) under the bed ever since. Some people are just plain crazy and there's no way to predict their behavior. I'm taking no chances. Invade my home and you're guaranteed to take a pair of #2 rounds first (point-and-pull) followed by as many 00's (aim steady and finish the job) as it takes.
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I'm still here despite the threats to my life and my wife's life. I take the bull by the horns. Anyone trying to hurt my family gets the shotgun, straight up. No playing. SUCK IT, OTOH, is a pansy running from a website based on a crank email.
Anyone notice how Whooter had nothing to say for a few weeks until I posted again? This guy is obsessed with me and exists only to troll me and research my posts, day and night. He never contributes anything of value, just knee-jerk trolls of my posts. What a loser. That guy needs to get a life. Seriously. Five years of "DJ this and DJ that" without any added value whatsoever. No wonder he failed as a father and could never hold a job and spent so much time in jail. His failures are of epic proportions and on display for all to see...
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I'm still here despite the threats to my life and my wife's life. I take the bull by the horns. Anyone trying to hurt my family gets the shotgun, straight up. No playing. SUCK IT, OTOH, is a pansy running from a website based on a crank email.
Anyone notice how Whooter had nothing to say for a few weeks until I posted again? This guy is obsessed with me and exists only to troll me and research my posts, day and night. He never contributes anything of value, just knee-jerk trolls of my posts. What a loser. That guy needs to get a life. Seriously. Five years of "DJ this and DJ that" without any added value whatsoever. No wonder he failed as a father and could never hold a job and spent so much time in jail. His failures are of epic proportions and on display for all to see...
:waaaa: :waaaa: poor DJ, He never trolled anyone and always took his posting seriously. Looking for sympathy? Why not pull out Robert Bruce or a few others they usually help you out of these things.
How does it feel now that the shoe is on the other foot? lol
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On the other foot? You've been trolling me since you got here five years ago. It's nothing new. You only make yourself look like an idiot. Keep it up.
How does it feel now that the shoe is on the other foot? lol
Thanks for admitting you are a troll though. It's nice to hear you be truthful about something.
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On the other foot? You've been trolling me since you got here five years ago. It's nothing new. You only make yourself look like an idiot. Keep it up.
Yes, all the readers know, DJ, who has been trolling who all these years. Just look at your footer and past posts (lol, whoops forgot about those?)..... Its nice to see you get a little taste yourself and I am sure many people agree....
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NEWS BULLETIN: Whooter WORKS FOR ASPEN EDUCATION. See below quote from Whooter admitting his "fiduciary duty" to Aspen Education. Whooter is an industry troll and not "just a regular parent" as he would try to make people believe.
When is this supposed to take place?
Well the announcement takes place after the lawyers sign off on the deal, but they usually wait until the transfer is ready to take place.
The legal transfer typically takes place at the beginning of the new quarter (or fiscal year).
So based on this I would expect the announcement would come at anytime and the transfer could occur on Tuesday October 1, 2007 or early January 2008.
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How is it that you are in a position to have knowledge about the acquisition of HLA?
I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved, this could be misconstrued as Tipping
Still a classic... A guy who works for Aspen Education trolls relentlessly for five years trying to discredit people who work against programs and tries to blame it all on everyone else. Well, at least it's out in the open now.
I think Whooter is a just a little butt-hurt over SUCK IT's demise. Maybe also a bit paranoid that he's next.
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On the other foot? You've been trolling me since you got here five years ago. It's nothing new. You only make yourself look like an idiot. Keep it up.
Yes, all the readers know, DJ, who has been trolling who all these years. Just look at your footer and past posts (lol, whoops forgot about those?)..... Its nice to see you get a little taste yourself and I am sure many people agree....
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Whoops... Ha,Ha,Ha
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Look, he's supporting wwasp...
Most of us know that WWASP for the most part is hell on earth. You have to ask yourself how anyone could have a "good experience" in a WWASP program. I mean think about it...
Is there more to that user name than he lets on?
Or did he turn into one of those little sell bitches who ratted on their peers every five minutes to gain favor with staff?
The thing you clowns missed in all of this is the argument that his positive experiences are completely irrelevant. What makes them irrelevant is the sheer number of the horrid abuses suffered by kids in WWASP programs. One, ten, ten thousand positive WWASP experience do not matter. None of those experiences can wash away the horrific stains of abuse and torment suffered by the kids in the WWASP programs.
None of these positive "experiences" can change the hell of Tranquility Bay.
None of them can brush off the hell of Samoa, Costa Rica, and Spring Creek Lodge.
So really, suck it can take his positive "experience" and shove it.
The only thing he's doing is promoting for a company that is fueled by human suffering. Where is his sense of outrage at the kids locked in dog cages in Mexico? The fact that he has none shows me a lot about him as a person.
:notworthy:
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I never went to a program, I made it all up. I am program parent who is brainwashed, trying to convince parents on fornits to send their kids to programs, like I did. Please disregard everything I have ever said on fornits, because it's not true. Every program is abusive and program parents like me should kill themselves.
Explanation: I am taking an indefinite break from fornits starting from this point. It has been made clear to me via email and text message that somebody here is not happy with my opinions and is threatening to fax my posts about drug use and suicide to my boss, which they confirmed they know who it is. I am a new employee and this drama would likely end in me being fired, and unfortunately I cannot take this chance at this point in my life. I have stated my opinions, and you know how I truly feel. I was instructed to post this thread titled "I am a bitch" and to confirm that I am really a program parent pretending to be a troubled teen because I'm brainwashed. Well I did it, but I will not leave without an explanation. I know you are reading this. I did what you asked, if you have any semblance of a soul you will let this end now. If I get fired it's not just my life that will be ruined, people depend on me. I'd ask that all my posts are deleted but I know they have already been copied. So long, fornits.
Quoting to make sure it's not deleted.
WHOEVER THE FUCK DOXED HIM
QUIT THREATENING AND FUCKING RUIN HIS ASS
Great catch, Pile. You QFT'ed this moron just two minutes before he deleted what you quoted. Sweet.
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Is SUCK IT Whooter??
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After much consideration, I am inclined to think that Whooter and SUCK IT are one and the same. Although DannyB11 claims that they are just parts of his fragmented personality I discount that as just the ravings of a lunatic mind.
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After much consideration, I am inclined to think that Whooter and SUCK IT are one and the same. Although DannyB11 claims that they are just parts of his fragmented personality I discount that as just the ravings of a lunatic mind.
Now that you mention it, I am curious to hear DB weigh in on this. This is not meant sarcastically; I am genuinely curious to hear what he has to say about the fact that SUCK IT outted themselves as a program parent, AND stands a good chance of being identified as having been Whooter all along.
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Much confusion right now...head spinning....ears ringing.....which way to go? Meds needed, bottle empty...eyesight fuzzy. Who am I right now....cover blown? Souls to serve me....slipping away. Must post later when we are feeling better.
Peace and Powerlessness
Danny
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Much confusion right now...head spinning....ears ringing.....which way to go? Meds needed, bottle empty...eyesight fuzzy. Who am I right now....cover blown? Souls to serve me....slipping away. Must post later when we are feeling better.
Peace and Powerlessness
Danny
:roflmao: :roflmao: :notworthy:
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Quoting to make sure it's not deleted.
WHOEVER THE FUCK DOXED HIM
QUIT THREATENING AND FUCKING RUIN HIS ASS
Yeah. I'd have to call bullshit on that. If somebody did have the info SUCK IT claims the deed would already be done. Compassion for program supporters is not exactly in great supply around here.
Jeesh, it sounds so immature and stupid when you say it. Hey, how long do we have to wait until most of you folks turn 30yrs and grow up.
Fuck, I'm tired of waiting. Get married, have some kids and get a real job. Then come back in 10 years with some road wear.
Sick of you snotty bitches.
Your out of your programs.
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What's your point? I didn't DOX this idiot. All I did was point out the incredible hypocrisy shown by him. Then again, you should be familiar with it, Whooter. You are the biggest hypocrite on Fornits. You're the guy who "outs" program kids by name claiming to have access to their treatment records and then you cry like a little bitch (ala SUCK IT) when anybody says anything about you. You're just as big a loser as your sockpuppet, SUCK IT. And a bigger crybaby. :waaaa: :waaaa: :roflmao:
You just can not accept a different opinion, without resorting to name calling. Bitch, you have the audacity to call Whooter a bitch. :rofl:
DJ, you have to be the biggest one here.
Read your posts.
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What's your point? I didn't DOX this idiot. All I did was point out the incredible hypocrisy shown by him. Then again, you should be familiar with it, Whooter. You are the biggest hypocrite on Fornits. You're the guy who "outs" program kids by name claiming to have access to their treatment records and then you cry like a little bitch (ala SUCK IT) when anybody says anything about you. You're just as big a loser as your sockpuppet, SUCK IT. And a bigger crybaby. :waaaa: :waaaa: :roflmao:
You just can not accept a different opinion, without resorting to name calling. Bitch, you have the audacity to call Whooter a bitch. :rofl:
DJ, you have to be the biggest one here.
Read your posts.
So it doesn't bother you in the least that Whooter has been posing as several different people? Oh, wait.....look who I'm asking.
Color me shocked DannyBoi
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Quoting to make sure it's not deleted.
WHOEVER THE FUCK DOXED HIM
QUIT THREATENING AND FUCKING RUIN HIS ASS
Yeah. I'd have to call bullshit on that. If somebody did have the info SUCK IT claims the deed would already be done. Compassion for program supporters is not exactly in great supply around here.
Jeesh, it sounds so immature and stupid when you say it. Hey, how long do we have to wait until most of you folks turn 30yrs and grow up.
Fuck, I'm tired of waiting. Get married, have some kids and get a real job. Then come back in 10 years with some road wear.
Sick of you snotty bitches.
Your out of your programs.
:suicide: Danny I am sure you are aware that we have your IP address and can pinpoint you on a map :deal:
Stay safe..it's pretty ugly out there. :beat:
Yep, shiver me timbers. Come on over, I cook every weekend.
Please Felice, I'd snap your head off and shit in the hole after dinner.
:roflmao:
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Look, he's supporting wwasp...
Most of us know that WWASP for the most part is hell on earth. You have to ask yourself how anyone could have a "good experience" in a WWASP program. I mean think about it...
Is there more to that user name than he lets on?
Or did he turn into one of those little sell bitches who ratted on their peers every five minutes to gain favor with staff?
The thing you clowns missed in all of this is the argument that his positive experiences are completely irrelevant. What makes them irrelevant is the sheer number of the horrid abuses suffered by kids in WWASP programs. One, ten, ten thousand positive WWASP experience do not matter. None of those experiences can wash away the horrific stains of abuse and torment suffered by the kids in the WWASP programs.
None of these positive "experiences" can change the hell of Tranquility Bay.
None of them can brush off the hell of Samoa, Costa Rica, and Spring Creek Lodge.
So really, suck it can take his positive "experience" and shove it.
The only thing he's doing is promoting for a company that is fueled by human suffering. Where is his sense of outrage at the kids locked in dog cages in Mexico? The fact that he has none shows me a lot about him as a person.
:notworthy:
Frodie get it over with, just blow him. Fucking idiot.
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Oh, Danny, please don't try to hurt my feelings with your dry-drunk rages. Why would you do that, Danny? Are you going to try to drag me behind your car now, too, Danny? Please, Danny, stop being so abusive. It's unbecoming, Danny. Try not to be powerless over being abusive toward others, Danny. What happened to those PMs you sent me, Danny? Remember apologizing for your past abuses of me, Danny? Did you forget about that, Danny? Danny, are you drinking again?
There. That should satisfy the attention-whoring Danny for a little while. It's all about you, Danno. No worries.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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Oh, Danny, please don't try to hurt my feelings with your dry-drunk rages. Why would you do that, Danny? Are you going to try to drag me behind your car now, too, Danny? Please, Danny, stop being so abusive. It's unbecoming, Danny. Try not to be powerless over being abusive toward others, Danny. What happened to those PMs you sent me, Danny? Remember apologizing for your past abuses of me, Danny? Did you forget about that, Danny? Danny, are you drinking again?
There. That should satisfy the attention-whoring Danny for a little while. It's all about you, Danno. No worries.
You just proved my point. I know get it. You are a real bitch!!!!
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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Oh, Danny, please don't try to hurt my feelings with your dry-drunk rages. Why would you do that, Danny? Are you going to try to drag me behind your car now, too, Danny? Please, Danny, stop being so abusive. It's unbecoming, Danny. Try not to be powerless over being abusive toward others, Danny. What happened to those PMs you sent me, Danny? Remember apologizing for your past abuses of me, Danny? Did you forget about that, Danny? Danny, are you drinking again?
There. That should satisfy the attention-whoring Danny for a little while. It's all about you, Danno. No worries.
You just proved my point. I know get it. You are a real bitch!!!!
But Danny, what about your "olive branch" you offered me via PM? Was that not sincere, Danny? Tell me, Danny, was that just part of your steps?
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Look, he's supporting wwasp...
Most of us know that WWASP for the most part is hell on earth. You have to ask yourself how anyone could have a "good experience" in a WWASP program. I mean think about it...
Is there more to that user name than he lets on?
Or did he turn into one of those little sell bitches who ratted on their peers every five minutes to gain favor with staff?
The thing you clowns missed in all of this is the argument that his positive experiences are completely irrelevant. What makes them irrelevant is the sheer number of the horrid abuses suffered by kids in WWASP programs. One, ten, ten thousand positive WWASP experience do not matter. None of those experiences can wash away the horrific stains of abuse and torment suffered by the kids in the WWASP programs.
None of these positive "experiences" can change the hell of Tranquility Bay.
None of them can brush off the hell of Samoa, Costa Rica, and Spring Creek Lodge.
So really, suck it can take his positive "experience" and shove it.
The only thing he's doing is promoting for a company that is fueled by human suffering. Where is his sense of outrage at the kids locked in dog cages in Mexico? The fact that he has none shows me a lot about him as a person.
:notworthy:
Frodie get it over with, just blow him. Fucking idiot.
Fuck you, "Danny boy."
Fuckin' punk.
Talking loud and saying nothing, as usual.
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I never went to a program, I made it all up. I am program parent who is brainwashed, trying to convince parents on fornits to send their kids to programs, like I did. Please disregard everything I have ever said on fornits, because it's not true. Every program is abusive and program parents like me should kill themselves.
Explanation: I am taking an indefinite break from fornits starting from this point. It has been made clear to me via email and text message that somebody here is not happy with my opinions and is threatening to fax my posts about drug use and suicide to my boss, which they confirmed they know who it is. I am a new employee and this drama would likely end in me being fired, and unfortunately I cannot take this chance at this point in my life. I have stated my opinions, and you know how I truly feel. I was instructed to post this thread titled "I am a bitch" and to confirm that I am really a program parent pretending to be a troubled teen because I'm brainwashed. Well I did it, but I will not leave without an explanation. I know you are reading this. I did what you asked, if you have any semblance of a soul you will let this end now. If I get fired it's not just my life that will be ruined, people depend on me. I'd ask that all my posts are deleted but I know they have already been copied. So long, fornits.
SUCK IT, I am sorry to see you go. They did this to you because they are afraid of the truth (many posters know this). For those who opposed you if it became apparent in their minds that kids did well in programs then they would have to face the realization that they are responsible for their own path in life and they would no longer be able to blame others for their failed life. This would really suck for them. You hung in there, but being fired from your job isnt worth it and we all understand your decision. Just know that by forcing them to chase you off confirms that you made a big difference here and if they felt you were wrong they would have simply ignored you , which apparently they did not. These are the same people who whine and cry foul because they get banned from sites like Strugglingteens yet feel justified in driving away people here with opposing opinions.
Another fact that may make you smile is that you kept all the trolls and insecure posters at bay while you were here. You held their feet to the fire to the point where they couldnt post lies without being called out onto the carpet by you for it. Posters like DJ just came out of the woodwork the minute they found out you were gone and he feels secure enough, with you gone, to come back out of the shadows and start derailing threads again unopposed.
You did good while you were here, SUCK IT, and kept many people honest and I believe you made a big difference in your own way. Good luck in your endeavors. If you ever switch jobs we will look forward to you returning.
Take care
TheWho
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I was a member of the Anti-WWASP forum a while back and I still keep tabs on related groups and websites.
SUCKED IT belongs to several WWASPS related groups on facebook, which is how I found him. He posts the same crap there as he does here. SUCKED IT's facebook indicated he was posting on fornits, which is how I knew it was him.
I am NOT forcing SUCKED IT into silence.
SUCKED IT has been given a choice of whether he wants the information he posted on the public internet relayed to his employer. If I was his boss I might be interested to know he fantasizes about suicide on his drive to work, dreams about smoking methamphetamine, considers himself a 'lifelong drug addict', and has been in jail and drug rehab.
Did SUCKED IT disclose this information on his employment application? Based on his reaction so far I think we all know the answer!! :seg:
:timeout: :deal: :dose: :cry:
I know SUCKED IT is reading this, I wonder if he is thinking about :suicide: !! :nods: :roflmao:
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
Please edit out his bullshit 'explanation' as he was instructed to do.
I hold all the strings now SUCK IT, remember that!! Enjoy your minimum wage dead-end job!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: [/b]
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Ah, his owner is here!
As much as I'd like you to irrevocably (and, if necessary, repeatedly) destroy him, it's occurred to me that you can do whatever you want with your property and if you feel that blackmail is more effective than just outright ball-stomping, that's your decision.
Assuming this isn't a long-running troll, of course.
Hey, can you do the same thing to Whooter and possibly Danny?
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I was a member of the Anti-WWASP forum a while back and I still keep tabs on related groups and websites.
SUCKED IT belongs to several WWASPS related groups on facebook, which is how I found him. He posts the same crap there as he does here. SUCKED IT's facebook indicated he was posting on fornits, which is how I knew it was him.
I am NOT forcing SUCKED IT into silence.
SUCKED IT has been given a choice of whether he wants the information he posted on the public internet relayed to his employer. If I was his boss, I might be interested to know he fantasizes about suicide on his drive to work, dreams about smoking methamphetamine, considers himself a 'lifelong drug addict', and has been in jail and drug rehab. Did SUCKED IT disclose this information on his employment application? Based on his reaction I think we all know the answer to that.
:timeout: :deal: :dose: :cry:
I know SUCKED IT is reading this, I wonder if he is thinking about :suicide: !! :nods: :roflmao:
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
Please edit out his bullshit 'explanation' as he was instructed to do.
I hold all the strings now SUCK IT, remember that!! Enjoy your minimum wage dead-end job!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: [/b]
Thanks PosterX, In his own way SUCK IT has manged to show that programs are not evil or abusive. It is individual people, like yourself, who gain a little knowledge and power and use it to hurt others and suppress free speech (you just tipped your hand and showed us that by your post). That small piece of character does not make you feel happy about yourself, I would guess.
By posting what you did you showed yourself to be weak minded and in need of power. Now that SUCK IT is gone he has taken away your power and is the one laughing. You just dont realize it yet.
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I was a member of the Anti-WWASP forum a while back and I still keep tabs on related groups and websites.
SUCKED IT belongs to several WWASPS related groups on facebook, which is how I found him. He posts the same crap there as he does here. SUCKED IT's facebook indicated he was posting on fornits, which is how I knew it was him.
I am NOT forcing SUCKED IT into silence.
SUCKED IT has been given a choice of whether he wants the information he posted on the public internet relayed to his employer. If I was his boss, I might be interested to know he fantasizes about suicide on his drive to work, dreams about smoking methamphetamine, considers himself a 'lifelong drug addict', and has been in jail and drug rehab. Did SUCKED IT disclose this information on his employment application? Based on his reaction I think we all know the answer to that.
:timeout: :deal: :dose: :cry:
I know SUCKED IT is reading this, I wonder if he is thinking about :suicide: !! :nods: :roflmao:
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
Please edit out his bullshit 'explanation' as he was instructed to do.
I hold all the strings now SUCK IT, remember that!! Enjoy your minimum wage dead-end job!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: [/b]
Thanks PosterX, In his own way SUCK IT has manged to show that programs are not evil or abusive. It is individual people, like yourself, who gain a little knowledge and power and use it to hurt others and suppress free speech (you just tipped your hand and showed us that by your post). That small piece of character does not make you feel happy about yourself, I would guess.
By posting what you did you showed yourself to be weak minded and in need of power. Now that SUCK IT is gone he has taken away your power and is the one laughing. You just dont realize it yet.
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Hah, maybe people are just really fucking sick of you.
Go to hell with your bullshit about "free speech."
Kids in programs have their right to free speech ripped away, so let's deprive YOU of it, just for fun!!
:twofinger: :cheers: :roflmao: :fuckoff: :fuckoff:
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I was a member of the Anti-WWASP forum a while back and I still keep tabs on related groups and websites.
SUCKED IT belongs to several WWASPS related groups on facebook, which is how I found him. He posts the same crap there as he does here. SUCKED IT's facebook indicated he was posting on fornits, which is how I knew it was him.
I am NOT forcing SUCKED IT into silence.
SUCKED IT has been given a choice of whether he wants the information he posted on the public internet relayed to his employer. If I was his boss I might be interested to know he fantasizes about suicide on his drive to work, dreams about smoking methamphetamine, considers himself a 'lifelong drug addict', and has been in jail and drug rehab.
Did SUCKED IT disclose this information on his employment application? Based on his reaction so far I think we all know the answer!! :seg:
:timeout: :deal: :dose: :cry:
I know SUCKED IT is reading this, I wonder if he is thinking about :suicide: !! :nods: :roflmao:
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
Please edit out his bullshit 'explanation' as he was instructed to do.
I hold all the strings now SUCK IT, remember that!! Enjoy your minimum wage dead-end job!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: [/b]
:cheers: :cheers: :rasta: :notworthy:
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Would love to see a transcript (minus whatever personal info you want to edit) of the conversation that happened on Facebook that brought all this about.
:seg2:
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Would love to see a transcript (minus whatever personal info you want to edit) of the conversation that happened on Facebook that brought all this about.
:seg2:
Oh HELLZ yeah.... :rasta: :moon: :nods: :fuckoff:
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Would love to see a transcript (minus whatever personal info you want to edit) of the conversation that happened on Facebook that brought all this about.
:seg2:
Oh HELLZ yeah.... :rasta: :moon: :nods: :fuckoff:
:rofl: :rofl: :rocker: :rasta:
Srsly.......even if just for the epic LULZ!!!!
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Yeah posterx, please quit holding out!
Force SUCK IT / Whooter (if they are in fact one and the same) to tell the truth!
Show us the conversation!
THANKS!!! :tup:
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That would be freakin golden. Pretty please, post that convo and make our day.
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I don't know if SUCKED IT is Whooter, he never mentioned anything about it on his facebook page.
What I can tell you is SUCKED IT,
Works part time at a nationwide coffee shop chain. He posted that he thinks this is a 'good job'. :roflmao:
Is divorced,his ex has custody of their kid, there are pics of them on face book
Is 28 years old and single
Uses the free wifi at his work to post on fornits. I have screenshots of him bragging about on facebook that I can email his boss if I feel like it! :deal:
He posted the same crap about his life being saved on some WWASPS groups. Judging from his pictures he has some cats, all the pictures are of himself with his cats in his crap apartment.
SUCKED IT is a pitiful loser which is like all program supporters!!!! :beat:
HEY SUCKED IT! I'LL HAVE A VENTI WHITE MOCHA, NONFAT MILK AND NO WHIP. HURRY UP I'M IN A HURRY!! NO TIP!!
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
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I don't know if SUCKED IT is Whooter, he never mentioned anything about it on his facebook page.
What I can tell you is SUCKED IT,
Works part time at a nationwide coffee shop chain. He posted that he thinks this is a 'good job'. :roflmao:
Is divorced,his ex has custody of their kid, there are pics of them on face book
Is 28 years old and single
Uses the free wifi at his work to post on fornits. I have screenshots of him bragging about on facebook that I can email his boss if I feel like it! :deal:
He posted the same crap about his life being saved on some WWASPS groups. Judging from his pictures he has some cats, all the pictures are of himself with his cats in his crap apartment.
SUCKED IT is a pitiful loser which is like all program supporters!!!! :beat:
HEY SUCKED IT! I'LL HAVE A VENTI WHITE MOCHA, NONFAT MILK AND NO WHIP. HURRY UP I'M IN A HURRY!! NO TIP!!
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Nice work!!! Would still like to see the transcript of what he actually said, if you have time sometime. Again, minus whatever personal info you feel appropriate to delete. I don't want to get him fired......wouldn't want the cats to be out on the street.
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Woah, woah, woah!
This fucker actually works at Starbucks?! Serving coffee? That people drink?!
Well, I guess it's their fault for drinking Starbucks coffee, but this screams 'public health hazard' loud and clear.
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I was a member of the Anti-WWASP forum a while back and I still keep tabs on related groups and websites.
SUCKED IT belongs to several WWASPS related groups on facebook, which is how I found him. He posts the same crap there as he does here. SUCKED IT's facebook indicated he was posting on fornits, which is how I knew it was him.
I am NOT forcing SUCKED IT into silence.
SUCKED IT has been given a choice of whether he wants the information he posted on the public internet relayed to his employer. If I was his boss I might be interested to know he fantasizes about suicide on his drive to work, dreams about smoking methamphetamine, considers himself a 'lifelong drug addict', and has been in jail and drug rehab.
Did SUCKED IT disclose this information on his employment application? Based on his reaction so far I think we all know the answer!! :seg:
:timeout: :deal: :dose: :cry:
I know SUCKED IT is reading this, I wonder if he is thinking about :suicide: !! :nods: :roflmao:
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
Please edit out his bullshit 'explanation' as he was instructed to do.
I hold all the strings now SUCK IT, remember that!! Enjoy your minimum wage dead-end job!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: [/b]
I would bet money that the above poster is in fact "SUCK IT".
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I would bet money that the above poster is in fact "SUCK IT".
I won't check, but i'd have to agree with your hunch. SUCK IT wants to play the victim, make his side look good, and discourage posting by make Fornits seem somehow "dangerous" by spinning a yarn about having somebody threaten to out his identity. Like I said earlier in the thread. If somebody did have his identity and job information the deed would already be done. This is sock-puppetry.
I just checked on Facebook and I can't see anybody similar posting on any WWASP groups. SUCK IT is likely smarter than that anyway.
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Heh, like he's smarter than anything at all...
From another thread:
If I post SUCKED IT's info right now and email it to his boss he will lose his job and spend all day every day posting on fornits.
Is this what you want?????
The current situation is a win-win for everybody involved
YOU'RE WELCOME.[/b]
The change in writing style is enormous, and I'm not talking about the tone, the BB code, and the emoticons. Two trolls acting in concert? Possible. Not the same guy.
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Hey PosterX. I'm curious. What WWASP relate Facebook group was he posting on? There's really only one main WWASP group (http://http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2206196427&ref=search) and I can't find any similar postings or discussion threads. Yeah. I'm gonna have to call bullshit on your story unless you can offer a good explanation.
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Oh, Danny, please don't try to hurt my feelings with your dry-drunk rages. Why would you do that, Danny? Are you going to try to drag me behind your car now, too, Danny? Please, Danny, stop being so abusive. It's unbecoming, Danny. Try not to be powerless over being abusive toward others, Danny. What happened to those PMs you sent me, Danny? Remember apologizing for your past abuses of me, Danny? Did you forget about that, Danny? Danny, are you drinking again?
There. That should satisfy the attention-whoring Danny for a little while. It's all about you, Danno. No worries.
You just proved my point. I know get it. You are a real bitch!!!!
But Danny, what about your "olive branch" you offered me via PM? Was that not sincere, Danny? Tell me, Danny, was that just part of your steps?
I personally never offered you anything. DJ, you are a dope fiend, you act like one, you write like one and you probably smell like one. Your the kind of guy who would lie just to be right. You don't care about any of this shit, this is all ego to you.
So please, get over yourself. I never offered you anything until now, get some help with your addiction for fabricating.
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Heh, like he's smarter than anything at all...
Don't underestimate your enemy's intelligence. SUCK IT is a good writer and more than capable of emulating the style of say... other posters who shall not be mentioned. Lots of emoticons, lots of formatting, yet phrases like "relayed to his employer" and perfect grammar don't fit the poster's style.
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Heh, like he's smarter than anything at all...
Don't underestimate your enemy's intelligence. SUCK IT is a good writer and more than capable of emulating the style of say... other posters who shall not be mentioned. Lots of emoticons, lots of formatting, yet phrases like "relayed to his employer" and perfect grammar don't fit the poster's style.
I also wondered about the SUCK IT v. SUCKED IT.
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Fornits, meet SUCKED IT!!!!!
(http://http://imgur.com/RTMk0.jpg)
From his 1st day at his new job. "It was busy that day!!" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
(http://http://imgur.com/j7OQB.jpg)
I'm not going to link to his facebook or posts because then his information will get posted and he'll get fired, and then he'll spend everyday posting on fornits. SORRY BUT THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE!!!!
The proof is in the results beause from now on SUCKED IT will not be posting here unless he wants to be fired.
The decision is up to him!! I think he made the right decision![/u][/size] :fuckoff:
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I never went to a program, I made it all up. I am program parent who is brainwashed, trying to convince parents on fornits to send their kids to programs, like I did. Please disregard everything I have ever said on fornits, because it's not true. Every program is abusive and program parents like me should kill themselves.
Explanation: I am taking an indefinite break from fornits starting from this point. It has been made clear to me via email and text message that somebody here is not happy with my opinions and is threatening to fax my posts about drug use and suicide to my boss, which they confirmed they know who it is. I am a new employee and this drama would likely end in me being fired, and unfortunately I cannot take this chance at this point in my life. I have stated my opinions, and you know how I truly feel. I was instructed to post this thread titled "I am a bitch" and to confirm that I am really a program parent pretending to be a troubled teen because I'm brainwashed. Well I did it, but I will not leave without an explanation. I know you are reading this. I did what you asked, if you have any semblance of a soul you will let this end now. If I get fired it's not just my life that will be ruined, people depend on me. I'd ask that all my posts are deleted but I know they have already been copied. So long, fornits.
SUCK IT, I am sorry to see you go. They did this to you because they are afraid of the truth (many posters know this). For those who opposed you if it became apparent in their minds that kids did well in programs then they would have to face the realization that they are responsible for their own path in life and they would no longer be able to blame others for their failed life. This would really suck for them. You hung in there, but being fired from your job isnt worth it and we all understand your decision. Just know that by forcing them to chase you off confirms that you made a big difference here and if they felt you were wrong they would have simply ignored you , which apparently they did not. These are the same people who whine and cry foul because they get banned from sites like Strugglingteens yet feel justified in driving away people here with opposing opinions.
Another fact that may make you smile is that you kept all the trolls and insecure posters at bay while you were here. You held their feet to the fire to the point where they couldnt post lies without being called out onto the carpet by you for it. Posters like DJ just came out of the woodwork the minute they found out you were gone and he feels secure enough, with you gone, to come back out of the shadows and start derailing threads again unopposed.
You did good while you were here, SUCK IT, and kept many people honest and I believe you made a big difference in your own way. Good luck in your endeavors. If you ever switch jobs we will look forward to you returning.
Take care
TheWho
Ditto,
I don't see this as a act of submission, nope. I see it as you are done with your work. You made it to the end of the day, did a good days work. You left it all on the floor. Good for you. Whooter and myself will miss ya.
Take care
danny
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Anne, that's just a continuous bitchslap by the owner to his new pet.
Psy, good grammar, epic full-on ownage, and emoticon madness are not mutually exclusive traits. I've seen weirder. I don't use Failbook so I won't comment on that part of it.
I also won't continue the argument since it's de-facto unprovable without IP tracing and/or following the same logic that let posterX dox him (which is a trail likely unfollowable now as he probably deleted a lot of his Facebook stuff). However it's really tipped the scale from 'probably a troll' to 'probably not a troll'.
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Heh, like he's smarter than anything at all...
Don't underestimate your enemy's intelligence. SUCK IT is a good writer and more than capable of emulating the style of say... other posters who shall not be mentioned. Lots of emoticons, lots of formatting, yet phrases like "relayed to his employer" and perfect grammar don't fit the poster's style.
Now, I don't know, was this in jest or does this Admin really mean this statement. Suck-It is the enemy. Please elaborate if you will on a Fornits "Enemy".
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Ok. Send me his Facebook link via PM. I'll promise not to release it and if you're telling the truth then you'll be vindicated. Pictures of some guy and a cat and a photo of starbucks hardly prove anything. They could be off your own Facebook page or they could be of some random guy.
In my view this is simply a propaganda operation to manufacture "evidence" that it is not safe to post here... Evidence that can be shown to parents or other concerned citizens to prevent them from posting or freely expressing their views.
If PosterX is real (highly doubtful) he/she is doing a disservice to this forum and should allow SUCK IT to return. Force or blackmale never changed any minds. All it does is make PosterX look like a thug and lend credibility SUCK IT's "arguments" by making it seem like they couldn't be defeated otherwise.
PosterX. Please call off your threats to SUCK IT if you are telling the truth.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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SORRY But I am not going to release any more information about SUCKED IT at this time.
I have posted enough info that he knows I know for a fact who he is and where he works.
I also know the fax number to corporate human resources and have copies of his posts!!
He has been following my rules like a good little program boy so he will be rewarded with the knowledge that I can keep his information secret as long as he obeys MY RULES.
My RULES for SUCKED IT
Don't ever post here or on facebook about WWASPS again
Don't create a new username and start posting again. You WILL BE CAUGHT AND PUNISHED!
SHUT UP and live your stupid quaint modest life and STAY AWAY FROM FORNITS FOREVER
Think you can handle that, SUCKED IT???? The next time your pictures won't have the face edited out, count on it!!!
It's been a pleasure doing business with you![/b] :roflmao:
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
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Now, I don't know, was this in jest or does this Admin really mean this statement. Suck-It is the enemy. Please elaborate if you will on a Fornits "Enemy".
It's a figure of speech in the same way one attorney might refer to the opposing council. Fornits itself has no enemies any more than a piece of paper has enemies. I was speaking in terms that SUCK IT shares an opposing ideology to my personal ideology regarding programs and is to be respected in his/her competence in expressing that viewpoint. I never ever have claimed to speak for the whole of Fornits. Stop taking my words out of context and twisting them.
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Look, he's supporting wwasp...
Most of us know that WWASP for the most part is hell on earth. You have to ask yourself how anyone could have a "good experience" in a WWASP program. I mean think about it...
Is there more to that user name than he lets on?
Or did he turn into one of those little sell bitches who ratted on their peers every five minutes to gain favor with staff?
The thing you clowns missed in all of this is the argument that his positive experiences are completely irrelevant. What makes them irrelevant is the sheer number of the horrid abuses suffered by kids in WWASP programs. One, ten, ten thousand positive WWASP experience do not matter. None of those experiences can wash away the horrific stains of abuse and torment suffered by the kids in the WWASP programs.
None of these positive "experiences" can change the hell of Tranquility Bay.
None of them can brush off the hell of Samoa, Costa Rica, and Spring Creek Lodge.
So really, suck it can take his positive "experience" and shove it.
The only thing he's doing is promoting for a company that is fueled by human suffering. Where is his sense of outrage at the kids locked in dog cages in Mexico? The fact that he has none shows me a lot about him as a person.
:notworthy:
Frodie get it over with, just blow him. Fucking idiot.
Fuck you, "Danny boy."
Fuckin' punk.
Talking loud and saying nothing, as usual.
Now you just accused me of insulting you, well I did not. I told you how many times. I am not the only one writing here.
I don't threaten people. I am more of the humble servant.
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SORRY But I am not going to release any more information about SUCKED IT at this time.
Not even to me in a PM? Now I know you're lying. Even Whooter knows I can keep confidences. Since there is no danger I will share such information with anybody, the only possible explanation is that you are making this whole thing up.
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Stop taking my words out of context and twisting them.
Now you're going too far. :seg: What would Danny, Whooter and SUCK IT have to post then? That's, virtually literally, all they do.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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Now, I don't know, was this in jest or does this Admin really mean this statement. Suck-It is the enemy. Please elaborate if you will on a Fornits "Enemy".
It's a figure of speech in the same way one attorney might refer to the opposing council. Fornits itself has no enemies any more than a piece of paper has enemies. I was speaking in terms that SUCK IT shares an opposing ideology to my (http://personal) ideology regarding programs and is to be respected in his/her competence in expressing that viewpoint. I never ever have claimed to speak for the whole of Fornits. Stop taking my words out of context and twisting them.
Psy,
You know for a fact I am not your enemy, so I would not twist your words. I was questioning the context of your statement. I am not a lawyer. I do understand your rebuttal, thanks.
danny
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I would bet money that the above poster is in fact "SUCK IT".
I won't check, but i'd have to agree with your hunch. SUCK IT wants to play the victim, make his side look good, and discourage posting by make Fornits seem somehow "dangerous" by spinning a yarn about having somebody threaten to out his identity. Like I said earlier in the thread. If somebody did have his identity and job information the deed would already be done. This is sock-puppetry.
I just checked on Facebook and I can't see anybody similar posting on any WWASP groups. SUCK IT is likely smarter than that anyway.
Same here, Suck it has played these little two faced games before with DJ. He's trollin', and trollin' big time.
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SORRY But I am not going to release any more information about SUCKED IT at this time.
Not even to me in a PM? Now I know you're lying. Even Whooter knows I can keep confidences. Since there is no danger I will share such information with anybody, the only possible explanation is that you are making this whole thing up.
SORRY NOT EVEN IN A PM. I am keeping total and complete control over my new program pet!!
I get results!!! :deal:
SUCKED IT is not going to post here any more.
THAT IS RESULTS BASED EVIDENCE, YOU'RE WELCOME FORNITS!
Enjoy your new and improved SUCKED IT-free forum!!!
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SORRY But I am not going to release any more information about SUCKED IT at this time.
Not even to me in a PM? Now I know you're lying. Even Whooter knows I can keep confidences. Since there is no danger I will share such information with anybody, the only possible explanation is that you are making this whole thing up.
SORRY NOT EVEN IN A PM. I am keeping total and complete control over my new program pet!!
Have your pet ull off one more trick, then: Have SUCK IT ask me to delete his all his accounts and all his postings. At the very least have SUCK IT ask me to string all his postings together.
checkmate
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SORRY NOT EVEN IN A PM. I am keeping total and complete control over my new program pet!!
I get results!!! :deal:
SUCKED IT is not going to post here any more.
THAT IS RESULTS BASED EVIDENCE, YOU'RE WELCOME FORNITS!
Enjoy your new and improved SUCKED IT-free forum!!!
What's the deal with the SUCK IT v. SUCKed IT? Or are there two accounts for the same poster? I have no idea...I'm honestly asking.
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Anne, that's just a continuous bitchslap by the owner to his new pet.
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What's the deal with the SUCK IT v. SUCKed IT? Or are there two accounts for the same poster? I have no idea...I'm honestly asking.
PosterX is making it seem like he can't remember SUCK IT's name so he couldn't possibly be SUCK IT. Same with formatting differences. You follow? I asked Poster X to get Suck it to ask me to delete his posts and account or string all his posings together.
If PosterX is not SUCK IT, he or she has no motivation to refrain from doing what I asked. I would get a request from SUCK IT but would not honor it as it was made under duress. In such a case I would at least be able to let people know that PosterX was telling the truth (I can let people know if such a request was made). I would try to persuade PosterX to stop the blackmail and let SUCK IT return.
On the other hand, if PosterX Is SUCK IT he or she only has a few choices:
- Say nothing and by doing so expose true identity (SUCK IT). Casts doubt on credibility of SUCK IT as a whole.
- Make the request to delete and lose all postings (if the posters are the same, the duress does not exist and I will comply).
- Make the request to string accounts together and be exposed as a liar. PosterX suddenly becomes identified as "SUCK IT".
So basically if I don't hear from SUCK IT with such a request you will know for sure that SUCK IT made this whole thing up to make the anti-program side look bad by faking being blackmailed/doxed.
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^this.. lol.. nice try though Sucked It. And I'm gonna go a step further and suggest that the entire Sucked It persona is a clever troll perpetuated by a rather clever WWASP survivor we all know. Well played ol' son, very well played.
:twofinger:
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Look, he's supporting wwasp...
Most of us know that WWASP for the most part is hell on earth. You have to ask yourself how anyone could have a "good experience" in a WWASP program. I mean think about it...
Is there more to that user name than he lets on?
Or did he turn into one of those little sell bitches who ratted on their peers every five minutes to gain favor with staff?
The thing you clowns missed in all of this is the argument that his positive experiences are completely irrelevant. What makes them irrelevant is the sheer number of the horrid abuses suffered by kids in WWASP programs. One, ten, ten thousand positive WWASP experience do not matter. None of those experiences can wash away the horrific stains of abuse and torment suffered by the kids in the WWASP programs.
None of these positive "experiences" can change the hell of Tranquility Bay.
None of them can brush off the hell of Samoa, Costa Rica, and Spring Creek Lodge.
So really, suck it can take his positive "experience" and shove it.
The only thing he's doing is promoting for a company that is fueled by human suffering. Where is his sense of outrage at the kids locked in dog cages in Mexico? The fact that he has none shows me a lot about him as a person.
:notworthy:
Frodie get it over with, just blow him. Fucking idiot.
Fuck you, "Danny boy."
Fuckin' punk.
Talking loud and saying nothing, as usual.
Now you just accused me of insulting you, well I did not. I told you how many times. I am not the only one writing here.
I don't threaten people. I am more of the humble servant.
Where in my post did i accuse you of anything?
Told me how...? Wha...?
Not the only one writing where? From your account? (Perhaps I am not up on these antics.)
You don't threaten people? That's highly debatable; I would say the exact opposite.
Humble servant, now THAT'S funny! :D
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^this.. lol.. nice try though Sucked It. And I'm gonna go a step further and suggest that the entire Sucked It persona is a clever troll perpetuated by a rather clever WWASP survivor we all know. Well played ol' son, very well played.
:twofinger:
Ho, hum...believe it or not, in the back of my mind I suspected this...
I wanted to see how it played out though.. so i went with the obvious assumption, playing into their hands.
If this is in fact the case, well played, yes.
A douchebag game; another emphatic yes...survivor or no survivor.
What a waste of time, eh?
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I find it kind of amusing.
My guess here is the survivor in question doesn't like the comparison between Suck it and let's say.. Kevin August?
And again, let's be real honest with ourselves here and use our collective experience with programs. How do you have a "good" experience?
You suck it or suck up or sell out your peers every single chance you get.
Or all three at once.
Because they constitute that nebulous field of, "workin' der programme."
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I find it kind of amusing.
My guess here is the survivor in question doesn't like the comparison between Suck it and let's say.. Kevin August?
And again, let's be real honest with ourselves here and use our collective experience with programs. How do you have a "good" experience?
You suck it or suck up or sell out your peers every single chance you get.
On that level I guess it ~is amusing...
But why would this survivor (who was posting as SUCK IT) be bothered by that comparison?
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Well, it appears Psy is right about this all being a game. This very likely could be SUCK IT’s attempt to discredit fornits from the getgo.
I gotta say I’m really not a fan of the ‘sock puppet’ game, are there any better preventative measures? I’m inclined to say that fornits should adopt a ‘one account per person’ rule perhaps? There have probably been many convos about this, but just curious….
In fact, can someone explain this sock puppet crap? Can anyone just make multiple accounts on fornits? I just want to know what likely hood there is that these are the games that are going to keep happening here.
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Just not the fornit way to regulate the ol' sock drawer. Brb, trying to remember my dynamic korea account password.
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dynamic korea
:rofl:
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I find it kind of amusing.
My guess here is the survivor in question doesn't like the comparison between Suck it and let's say.. Kevin August?
And again, let's be real honest with ourselves here and use our collective experience with programs. How do you have a "good" experience?
You suck it or suck up or sell out your peers every single chance you get.
On that level I guess it ~is amusing...
But why would this survivor (who was posting as SUCK IT) be bothered by that comparison?
Because if Suck it really is who I think he is, comparison to Kevin August is like a slap to the face. Don't get me wrong, I personally don't have any problems with Kevin, though the survivor I'm think of does.
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Let me start off with saying, I am not a bitch. I thought about what I was going to do all day today while at work, and I've come to a conclusion. I am going to put my faith and trust in another human being to do the right thing in this case. That means I am going to continue to take advantage of my free speech rights and this forum that invites all opinions for a free for all discussion, and live with the consequences whatever they may be. At this point I have no control over whether my information is going to be released. It's clear that many people want access to this information for their own purposes. I believe it's only a matter of time until, as a favor, it is sent around to others than the person who has this info right now. I really need my job and the money I make, without it I will probably end up homeless. If somebody can look themselves in the face every morning after having ruined someone's life just for the opinions they hold, then there is something wrong with that person and they should wonder what will their excuse be waiting at the gates of Heaven, being judged by God? This situation has gotten out of hand, and it is out of my control. I can only hope that people can act like adults and accept another opinion rather than destroy a life in order to shut them up.
You've had you're fun. I said what you wanted me to say. But from this point on I will follow nobody else's rules, but my own. I will no longer be threatened into silence, all because some person found a link to my face book account. Let this please be a lesson to those of you who post information about yourself on the internet, some people will attempt to use this information against you. The info that is being threatened to be sent to my boss are posts in which I was overly honest, I was naive to the fact someone might me compiling these confessions to use against me. I was trying to share my own experiences and opinions about treatment and AA related topics and rather than argue with people, reach down deep into myself and pull these old memories out to share with a group of internet strangers. This process is not easy and this blackmailing attempt has not made things any easier. But it did give me a chance to think, and reassess my convictions and morals. I have been tested, and I choose to stand with truth and openness and continue to share my experiences and opinions here.
I'm sure this will result in my "punishment", but I don't care at this point in my life. I earned my right to my opinions with what I went through, and this forum invites all opinions for an "open free for all" discussion. I think it is some of you who need to do a moral inventory of yourselves and begin to question your own convictions and values. I am not a program parent, like I was blackmailed into saying earlier in this thread. I was a troubled teen who was sent to multiple treatment programs, one of which has its own forum on this website, and so I choose to speak about it. I don't lie or make things up, I am open and honest and this bothers some people here, obviously. But I think you should open your mind to allow the possibility that some people might have actually been helped in a program. I can honestly say, and I swear to God this is true, if I wasn't sent to treatment and the program I would have almost certainly died, or ended up in jail. There is no doubt whatsoever of that in my own mind. I wouldn't of admitted that a few years ago, but maturity and finally developing the ability to empathize with other's positions, such as my parents, helped me understand the larger picture. It's easier to think of yourself as a victim, and not take personal accountability for your own decisions and actions. But doing so leaves you on a level of misunderstanding your own motives and never really knowing yourself. I know myself well now, and know what is truth and what is not. I am standing up for freedom of speech and I am proclaiming right now that I refuse to be bullied into silence. Do your worst.
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What's the deal with the SUCK IT v. SUCKed IT? Or are there two accounts for the same poster? I have no idea...I'm honestly asking.
PosterX is making it seem like he can't remember SUCK IT's name so he couldn't possibly be SUCK IT. Same with formatting differences. You follow? I asked Poster X to get Suck it to ask me to delete his posts and account or string all his posings together.
If PosterX is not SUCK IT, he or she has no motivation to refrain from doing what I asked. I would get a request from SUCK IT but would not honor it as it was made under duress. In such a case I would at least be able to let people know that PosterX was telling the truth (I can let people know if such a request was made). I would try to persuade PosterX to stop the blackmail and let SUCK IT return.
On the other hand, if PosterX Is SUCK IT he or she only has a few choices:
- Say nothing and by doing so expose true identity (SUCK IT). Casts doubt on credibility of SUCK IT as a whole.
- Make the request to delete and lose all postings (if the posters are the same, the duress does not exist and I will comply).
- Make the request to string accounts together and be exposed as a liar. PosterX suddenly becomes identified as "SUCK IT".
So basically if I don't hear from SUCK IT with such a request you will know for sure that SUCK IT made this whole thing up to make the anti-program side look bad by faking being blackmailed/doxed.
I do not want my posts deleted. By the way, I got an email with this lame offer. The previous post is my response, all the haters can SUCK IT.
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Your pet's out of line posterX, time to hit the button.
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Let me start off with saying, I am not a bitch. I thought about what I was going to do all day today while at work, and I've come to a conclusion. I am going to put my faith and trust in another human being to do the right thing in this case. That means I am going to continue to take advantage of my free speech rights and this forum that invites all opinions for a free for all discussion, and live with the consequences whatever they may be. At this point I have no control over whether my information is going to be released. It's clear that many people want access to this information for their own purposes. I believe it's only a matter of time until, as a favor, it is sent around to others than the person who has this info right now. I really need my job and the money I make, without it I will probably end up homeless. If somebody can look themselves in the face every morning after having ruined someone's life just for the opinions they hold, then there is something wrong with that person and they should wonder what will their excuse be waiting at the gates of Heaven, being judged by God? This situation has gotten out of hand, and it is out of my control. I can only hope that people can act like adults and accept another opinion rather than destroy a life in order to shut them up.
You've had you're fun. I said what you wanted me to say. But from this point on I will follow nobody else's rules, but my own. I will no longer be threatened into silence, all because some person found a link to my face book account. Let this please be a lesson to those of you who post information about yourself on the internet, some people will attempt to use this information against you. The info that is being threatened to be sent to my boss are posts in which I was overly honest, I was naive to the fact someone might me compiling these confessions to use against me. I was trying to share my own experiences and opinions about treatment and AA related topics and rather than argue with people, reach down deep into myself and pull these old memories out to share with a group of internet strangers. This process is not easy and this blackmailing attempt has not made things any easier. But it did give me a chance to think, and reassess my convictions and morals. I have been tested, and I choose to stand with truth and openness and continue to share my experiences and opinions here. Lying to paint your opposition as insane is not an acceptable way to win an argument.
I'm sure this will result in my "punishment", but I don't care at this point in my life. I earned my right to my opinions with what I went through, and this forum invites all opinions for an "open free for all" discussion. I think it is some of you who need to do a moral inventory of yourselves and begin to question your own convictions and values. I am not a program parent, like I was blackmailed into saying earlier in this thread. I was a troubled teen who was sent to multiple treatment programs, one of which has its own forum on this website, and so I choose to speak about it. I don't lie or make things up, I am open and honest and this bothers some people here, obviously. But I think you should open your mind to allow the possibility that some people might have actually been helped in a program. I can honestly say, and I swear to God this is true, if I wasn't sent to treatment and the program I would have almost certainly died, or ended up in jail. There is no doubt whatsoever of that in my own mind. I wouldn't of admitted that a few years ago, but maturity and finally developing the ability to empathize with other's positions, such as my parents, helped me understand the larger picture. It's easier to think of yourself as a victim, and not take personal accountability for your own decisions and actions. But doing so leaves you on a level of misunderstanding your own motives and never really knowing yourself. I know myself well now, and know what is truth and what is not. I am standing up for freedom of speech and I am proclaiming right now that I refuse to be bullied into silence. Do your worst.
Aah. So you found a fifth option. Claim to stand up for free speech in the face of losing your job and homelessness. Good job. Too late, though. One of your friends PM'ed me earlier to let me know I was right about you being PosterX, urging me to move on because you really did feel threatened and were just trying to prove a point. Well he/she might believe that but I certainly do not. You cried wolf. If you had really been threatened or blackmaled you would have posted that rather than having to resort to making up this disgusting chirade.
You lied there, SUCK IT. How is anybody to know whether you were in a program or not. I mean it wasn't too long ago you were claiming to be richer than any of us, lounging around on the beach. I have a good guess as to who you might be (same person Che suspects) but even that person wouldn't go to such lengths to support a program that traumatized him to the point where a car approaching from behind could send him into a panic attack -- beating on the hood of the car in front of his girlfriend. No. I don't believe he would flip so far over to the other side. Then again, maybe you are him and you feel better with the illusion that somehow what you went through had some meaning, that somehow they helped you, that somehow you caused it and therefore are in total control of your future.
You are responsible for your actions, but only your actions. What happened to you, what was done to you, was wrong. There ARE victims in this life. You don't choose to be a victim. Others do that for you, which is exactly what makes it so traumatic. People who have power over others often do abuse that power and there is no shame at all in being on the receiving end. Even if in some way you put yourself "on the train tracks" as Erhard would say, it still does not excuse those who were supposed to be taking care of you for their actions. What went on and what goes on in WWASP programs is by any publicly accepted standard of decency, abuse. They hurt you. You were a victim. It doesn't mean you're powerless but you aren't god either. It doesn't mean you deserved it or caused it and no matter what the result, it was wrong. Abuse is not the way to help kids. The Hobbit, Cat 4s, cat 5s, duct tape, dog cages. These are serious criminal matters. Who cares what others such as your parents think. Empathizing with a point of view and agreeing are two different things, and if you're parents knew and approved of what went on, they're just as guilty as the program. They might show you compassion as you hit troubled times, they might show you love, but conditional acceptance and support is not love. It's simply a desire for control, sometimes borne out of love but other times it's just a desire to make you in their image.
I feel sad for you. I really do. If you are who I think you are. You were once so fragile, hurt but full of emotion and compassion. You were able to sway the views of others. You were able to convince parents of things even I couldn't dream possible. You might look back on that and see it as a sign of sickness but I saw a guy with a heart. Now all i see, all i feel, is hate. Your very name symbolizes what you have become. You're devoid of compassion, you see victims as having deserved what they god, having put themselves in the situation. I can't imagine the amount of hate you must feel towards yourself.
Someday, maybe, you'll remember who you were and find the good among the fragile.
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One of your friends PM'ed me earlier to let me know I was right about you being PosterX, urging me to move on because you really did feel threatened and were just trying to prove a point.
This is laughably inaccurate. I don't communicate with anybody here via PM or email, I have never talked to anyone other than what is posted on the forum. I have no friends here, and whoever sent you that PM was spinning the usual conspiracy theories that make up the bulk of the fornits mythology. Yesterday people were sure I was a program parent. Today they were sure I was Whooter. Now I am supposedly the very person blackmailing me, it's sad people need to construct outlandish theories rather than accept the truth staring them in the face.
You lied there, SUCK IT.
No, the person who PMed you lied. I am attacked here for being too honest, and my honesty is now being used against me. I don't need to make anything up or lie, the truth speaks for itself.
How is anybody to know whether you were in a program or not. I mean it wasn't too long ago you were claiming to be richer than any of us, lounging around on the beach. I have a good guess as to who you might be (same person Che suspects) but even that person wouldn't go to such lengths to support a program that traumatized him to the point where a car approaching from behind could send him into a panic attack -- beating on the hood of the car in front of his girlfriend. No. I don't believe he would flip so far over to the other side. Then again, maybe you are him and you feel better with the illusion that somehow what you went through had some meaning, that somehow they helped you, that somehow you caused it and therefore are in total control of your future.
You are responsible for your actions, but only your actions. What happened to you, what was done to you, was wrong. There ARE victims in this life. You don't choose to be a victim. Others do that for you, which is exactly what makes it so traumatic. People who have power over others often do abuse that power and there is no shame at all in being on the receiving end. Even if in some way you put yourself "on the train tracks" as Erhard would say, it still does not excuse those who were supposed to be taking care of you for their actions. What went on and what goes on in WWASP programs is by any publicly accepted standard of decency, abuse. They hurt you. You were a victim. It doesn't mean you're powerless but you aren't god either. It doesn't mean you deserved it or caused it and no matter what the result, it was wrong. Abuse is not the way to help kids. The Hobbit, Cat 4s, cat 5s, duct tape, dog cages. These are serious criminal matters. Who cares what others such as your parents think. Empathizing with a point of view and agreeing are two different things, and if you're parents knew and approved of what went on, they're just as guilty as the program. They might show you compassion as you hit troubled times, they might show you love, but conditional acceptance and support is not love. It's simply a desire for control, sometimes borne out of love but other times it's just a desire to make you in their image.
I feel sad for you. I really do. If you are who I think you are. You were once so fragile, hurt but full of emotion and compassion. You were able to sway the views of others. You were able to convince parents of things even I couldn't dream possible. You might look back on that and see it as a sign of sickness but I saw a guy with a heart. Now all i see, all i feel, is hate. Your very name symbolizes what you have become. You're devoid of compassion, you see victims as having deserved what they god, having put themselves in the situation. I can't imagine the amount of hate you must feel towards yourself.
Someday, maybe, you'll remember who you were and find the good among the fragile.
Rather than speculate about other people's identities and motives perhaps it would be better to open your mind, and realize the possibility that some people have different experiences in programs than others. The world is not black and white, as fornits perceives it to be. Fornits is color blind to this and I use my experiences and honesty to paint a colorful picture that enrages people here for its ability to contradict a favored narrative, but I have a right to my opinions just as anybody else does. I feel sad for the person you describe above as well, lucky for me I'm not them.
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Yesterday people were sure I was a program parent. Today they were sure I was Whooter.
But these suppositions could be chalked up to your own doing, to a certain extent. And actually, the two suppositions occurred simultaneously; I presumed you were Whooter because you outted yourself as a program parent on that "I am a bitch" thread last night. Even under the assumption that this story about being blackmailed is true, there is a palpable cause for people to think these things about you; I'm just saying.
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Rather than speculate about other people's identities and motives perhaps it would be better to open your mind, and realize the possibility that some people have different experiences in programs than others. The world is not black and white, as fornits perceives it to be. Fornits is color blind to this and I use my experiences and honesty to paint a colorful picture that enrages people here for its ability to contradict a favored narrative, but I have a right to my opinions just as anybody else does. I feel sad for the person you describe above as well, lucky for me I'm not them.
No one really cares if you had a good program experience. Some of us do care that your shilling for WWASP in the name of trollin'. You outted yourself there with your post deletions. That was one of your trademarks back in the day. You'd delete every single one of your posts and disappear.
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You'd delete every single one of your posts and disappear.
It was sad. He wrote such great posts... Then he would suddenly become embarrassed or self conscious about what he wrote and *poof*. Program destroyed that kid's self confidence. So much potential and i'm not sure he ever really saw it in himself.
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No, the person who PMed you lied. I am attacked here for being too honest, and my honesty is now being used against me. I don't need to make anything up or lie, the truth speaks for itself.
No. The person who sent me the message has no reason whatsoever to lie. You believe that the ends justify the means and so lying about people who oppose programs is A OK. Just like staff in programs justify their actions and their lies, saying "Outsiders just wouldn't understand what's necessary to help these kids". "Honesty" has a whole other meaning to you.
You're right about one thing, though. The truth does speak for itself and everybody sees through you now. If you aren't the person I was thinking of then my guess is you were never even in a program. Doesn't really matter anyway. You're just one more propagandist here to defame, spin, and deceive parents into thinking their kids are safe in program hands... and in WWASP of all places.
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Yesterday people were sure I was a program parent. Today they were sure I was Whooter.
But these suppositions could be chalked up to your own doing, to a certain extent. And actually, the two suppositions occurred simultaneously; I presumed you were Whooter because you outted yourself as a program parent on that "I am a bitch" thread last night. Even under the assumption that this story about being blackmailed is true, there is a palpable cause for people to think these things about you; I'm just saying.
I really don't care what people think about me. If people want to think I'm Whooter or whatever, it makes no difference to me at all. People are always free to draw their own conclusions, just as I have on my own experiences in treatment.
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Rather than speculate about other people's identities and motives perhaps it would be better to open your mind, and realize the possibility that some people have different experiences in programs than others. The world is not black and white, as fornits perceives it to be. Fornits is color blind to this and I use my experiences and honesty to paint a colorful picture that enrages people here for its ability to contradict a favored narrative, but I have a right to my opinions just as anybody else does. I feel sad for the person you describe above as well, lucky for me I'm not them.
No one really cares if you had a good program experience. Some of us do care that your shilling for WWASP in the name of trollin'. You outted yourself there with your post deletions. That was one of your trademarks back in the day. You'd delete every single one of your posts and disappear.
You are constructing a conspiracy theory, just like many people on fornits seem to do. Psy knew who Whooter was, how did that work out? People should keep an open mind on fornits, and not be so quick to adopt assumptions as fact.
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No, the person who PMed you lied. I am attacked here for being too honest, and my honesty is now being used against me. I don't need to make anything up or lie, the truth speaks for itself.
No. The person who sent me the message has no reason whatsoever to lie. You believe that the ends justify the means and so lying about people who oppose programs is A OK. Just like staff in programs justify their actions and their lies, saying "Outsiders just wouldn't understand what's necessary to help these kids". "Honesty" has a whole other meaning to you.
You're right about one thing, though. The truth does speak for itself and everybody sees through you now. If you aren't the person I was thinking of then my guess is you were never even in a program. Doesn't really matter anyway. You're just one more propagandist here to defame, spin, and deceive parents into thinking their kids are safe in program hands... and in WWASP of all places.
Somebody constructed a theory and PMed you it. You adopted it as fact without any proof at all. This is exactly what is wrong with fornits. There is no possible way a "friend" of mine knows I am posterX, because the fact is I'm not. I've heard a lot of conspiracy theories about myself, this isn't new. I offer honesty in my posts, and I post here without an agenda. I don't worry about who I might offend if I say something truthful, I'm not here running political games. I'm here to share my experiences and opinions based on my time in treatment, exactly what this forum is supposedly for. The fact that this bothers people so much shows the hypocrisy in these welcoming statements, fornits users do not practice what they preach.
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Your pet's out of line posterX, time to hit the button.
posterX is Suck it..
Which is why suck it is posting now, as he knows he has nothing to worry about, unless he suffers from multiple personality disorder or some shit like that. His "Starbucks" job is safe and all that bother.
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Oh, Danny, please don't try to hurt my feelings with your dry-drunk rages. Why would you do that, Danny? Are you going to try to drag me behind your car now, too, Danny? Please, Danny, stop being so abusive. It's unbecoming, Danny. Try not to be powerless over being abusive toward others, Danny. What happened to those PMs you sent me, Danny? Remember apologizing for your past abuses of me, Danny? Did you forget about that, Danny? Danny, are you drinking again?
There. That should satisfy the attention-whoring Danny for a little while. It's all about you, Danno. No worries.
You just proved my point. I know get it. You are a real bitch!!!!
But Danny, what about your "olive branch" you offered me via PM? Was that not sincere, Danny? Tell me, Danny, was that just part of your steps?
Danny, yesterday you were denying this "olive branch" you sent me. Now you just deleted the post with your denials. So now you admit to PMing me groveling for my forgiveness??
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In my view this is simply a propaganda operation to manufacture "evidence" that it is not safe to post here... Evidence that can be shown to parents or other concerned citizens to prevent them from posting or freely expressing their views.
You know full well there is no need to manufacture any evidence that fornits is not a safe place to post. Just go ask the 15 year old girl recently came here for advice, how trusting fornits posters really are if they will use your personal information against you to blackmail you. Or did you forget about that already? Their families information was released because the parents did not bend to the will of the blackmailers and refuse to send her to treatment as the blackmailers demanded. This type of thing is a regular occurrence on fornits, it seems to be a favorite tactic of the anti treatment extremists.
Just this morning you have a former program staff post the full name, address, phone, profession, and link to their myspace account of a poster here who has opinions contrary to the acceptable group think. I also noticed that this certain ex program staff was MIA for a while prior to my information being posted, then showed up to do a victory dance the moment I was being blackmailed and made lots of posts. Coincidence? Perhaps. But I think people should be very wary of people like Dysfunction Junction who has just proven to everyone by posting a person's information under his real username. I think he is also posterX, but this time he wants the credit so he posted under his real username this time.
So is it safe to post on fornits with contrary opinions to the accepted group think? Even if you believe the conspiracy theory that I made this whole thread up, Dysfunction managed to prove the fact fornits is a gang of bullies this morning, what type of conspiracy is going to be spun to cover that up? I am now Whooter, posterX, and dysfunction junction? I await to see the construction of yet another elaborate theory to explain this all.
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SUCK IT, you really aren't that sharp, pal. DannyB II posted all of that information on Fornits himself. He even posted his cell number several times challenging people to fight. Bad example there.
Feel free to have the admins verify exactly how many screennames I have. It's one. I have used the same account for my entirety on Fornits. That's a fact. They have my permission to check and relay the results on the board for everyone to see.
You made up a whole "blackmail" story just so you could post what you're posting now. Psy knows you and "posterX" are the same person. You're not fooling anyone.
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I posted all the information about myself on facebook too. It takes people like you, and posterX to compile it, and then use it as a threat against someone simply for holding opinions that go against the acceptable group think here on fornits. This claims to be a discussion forum open to all views and opinions, and invites everyone to post here. Yet the gang of thugs that makes up the fornits regulars don't see it that way, and they will use any shady tactic necessary to silence those they disagree with. The more you guys bully people and threaten them, the weaker your argument gets and the less people will trust you.
It's clear to anybody who regularly visits this forum that it's not safe to post here. Unless you stick within the confines of the accepted group think, then you'll probably be safe. But don't stray too far away from the accepted narrative, because the consequences will be rained down upon you, no matter who you are.
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I have to give credit where it is due. SUCK IT is one of the craftiest and most cunning liars ever to post here on Fornits. That little scheme took alot of psychopathy to pull off. SUCK IT is a living example of the necessity for building yet more prisons. Society should be protected from scheming sociopaths like this. Imagine trying to work with or worse yet live with someone like SUCK IT. A person who gets a sense of power from successfuly lying for fun. Being a true blue sociopath enables him to tell very elaborate lies without the slightest bit of remorse. I would really like to see a list of his criminal convictions cause whether or not he is currently doing drugs, i do not believe he could ever stop his anti-social behaviors. Sociopaths cannot be cured - only incarcerated.
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I posted all the information about myself on facebook too. It takes people like you, and posterX to compile it, and then use it as a threat against someone simply for holding opinions that go against the acceptable group think here on fornits. This claims to be a discussion forum open to all views and opinions, and invites everyone to post here. Yet the gang of thugs that makes up the fornits regulars don't see it that way, and they will use any shady tactic necessary to silence those they disagree with. The more you guys bully people and threaten them, the weaker your argument gets and the less people will trust you.
It's clear to anybody who regularly visits this forum that it's not safe to post here. Unless you stick within the confines of the accepted group think, then you'll probably be safe. But don't stray too far away from the accepted narrative, because the consequences will be rained down upon you, no matter who you are.
That's all fine and well for you to say but it doesn't make it true. I never threatened you or anyone else. You're just some lying idiot on a message board. You mean, quite literally, nothing to me. If you get a job at a coffee shop, great for you. If you get hit by a bus, oh well. I'm ambivalent. Neither of these events would even make a blip on my radar. Try to recalibrate yourself to reality. You're just not that important, Mr. Barista. Unless you're getting my coffee.
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I have to give credit where it is due. SUCK IT is one of the craftiest and most cunning liars ever to post here on Fornits. That little scheme took alot of psychopathy to pull off. SUCK IT is a living example of the necessity for building yet more prisons. Society should be protected from scheming sociopaths like this. Imagine trying to work with or worse yet live with someone like SUCK IT. A person who gets a sense of power from successfuly lying for fun. Being a true blue sociopath enables him to tell very elaborate lies without the slightest bit of remorse.
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I agree that he's a huge liar and has some real mental issues. But he didn't "pull off" anything. He got caught lighting himself on fire and pulling the alarm. He's a total phony. None of his story even passes the smell test.
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I agree that he's a huge liar and has some real mental issues. But he didn't "pull off" anything. He got caught lighting himself on fire and pulling the alarm. He's a total phony. None of his story even passes the smell test.
Perhaps a quick re-cap would be in order, for the people just tuning in..
But anyway, yeah... just a big charade of sock-puppetry.
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You mean, quite literally, nothing to me.
That's not very nice. :waaaa:
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Yeah, well, I don't give a damn about you, SUCK IT. Deal with it. And get me a coffee. ; )
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Aww. Yeah, it's probably fake, posterX hasn't been back with the goods.
I don't understand this latest trend of programmies wanting to play the victim. You guys really want to be stomped on that badly? Okay, you got it!
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Yeah, well, I don't give a damn about you, SUCK IT.
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Aww. Yeah, it's probably fake, posterX hasn't been back with the goods.
I don't understand this latest trend of programmies wanting to play the victim. You guys really want to be stomped on that badly? Okay, you got it!
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Look at it this way: SUCK IT's arguments are so weak that he has to manufacture some "blackmail drama" in order to discredit "Fornits" and try to make people feel it's "unsafe." If he had any intellectual acuity he could make valid points that would hold up under scrutiny. Since he can't he cries "Poor me! Fornits threatened me! I feel unsafe!" It's the trademark of the loser.
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Look at it this way: SUCK IT's arguments are so weak that he has to manufacture some "blackmail drama" in order to discredit "Fornits" and try to make people feel it's "unsafe." If he had any intellectual acuity he could make valid points that would hold up under scrutiny. Since he can't he cries "Poor me! Fornits threatened me! I feel unsafe!" It's the trademark of the loser.
You, as well as every other poster here know, I don't need to manufacture a blackmail drama. If this was my intent, I would just highlight the fact that a 15 year old girl's parents were blackmailed here, and the entire family publicly humiliated. Wouldn't that be more effective in scaring off parents from posting here? I think so, but then again, I'm not theorizing about people's motives and spinning a new theory every five minutes. I have been honest about why I post here, and about what I post. People are free to believe me or not, I don't really care. People who are open minded and want a better understanding of the true reality of treatment outside of the black and white extremist thinking here probably enjoy my posts. The agenda driven extremists willing to use blackmail to silence inconvenient opinions are probably annoyed by my honesty. I think it's clear which group you belong to at this point. I haven't posted a person's information here in an attempt to blackmail, intimidate, or humiliate them. You have.
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Aww. Yeah, it's probably fake, posterX hasn't been back with the goods.
Good point. If PosterX was real he'd be back here publicly outing SUCK IT, not just (supposedly) calling his boss.
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Suck It, this is not the forum for you. This forum has an intended bias against bad programs. Some people here are extreme in their perspectives, but that does not mean we should to cater to Kool aid drinkers and shills. Many people came to this site after heavy trauma - they deserve a safe place. This place isn't what it used to be because of the Machiavellian machinations of Whooter and some dumb assed internal drama a few years ago, but it is still a haven for some.
Find another site for more moderate perspectives. And get the fuck out.
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Aww. Yeah, it's probably fake, posterX hasn't been back with the goods.
Good point. If PosterX was real he'd be back here publicly outing SUCK IT, not just (supposedly) calling his boss.
I don't know if posterX is going to post my information or follow through with their threats to contact my work. I have been in private contact with posterX and made my appeals, and they know, as we all known on some level, that there is a God and one day we will be judged for our actions. I know many people here are salivating at the chance to ruin my life, and posterX might be the new fornits hero if and when he destroys my livelihood. I appeal to posterX's decency and humanity and have asked them to please allow me the right of free speech, as given to me by this forum. I guess we'll all have to wait and see what happens.
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Suck It, this is not the forum for you. This forum has an intended bias against bad programs. Some people here are extreme in their perspectives, but that does not mean we should to cater to Kool aid drinkers and shills. Many people came to this site after heavy trauma - they deserve a safe place. This place isn't what it used to be because of the Machiavellian machinations of Whooter and some dumb assed internal drama a few years ago, but it is still a haven for some.
Find another site for more moderate perspectives. And get the fuck out.
If you think fornits is a safe place, you are just as naive and ignorant as those who have been intimidated and blackmailed by the extremist posters on this website. I could search and quote the owner of this forum specifically stating this is not a safe place for survivors, but I don't really feel like it, you can search for the multitude of explanations as to the true nature of this forum if you please. Or you can keep wishing and hope it becomes what you want it to be, keep your eyes closed and ignore the evidence proving this is hardly a safe place for anybody, even the "survivors". I will post here as I please, if you have a problem with that take it up with the admins. Thanks for being so polite and mature.
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Suck It, this is not the forum for you. This forum has an intended bias against bad programs. Some people here are extreme in their perspectives, but that does not mean we should to cater to Kool aid drinkers and shills. Many people came to this site after heavy trauma - they deserve a safe place. This place isn't what it used to be because of the Machiavellian machinations of Whooter and some dumb assed internal drama a few years ago, but it is still a haven for some.
Find another site for more moderate perspectives. And get the fuck out.
Actually you are wrong, Samara. I had this conversation with Ginger many years ago and offered to leave if the forum was intended for survivors and anti-program people. She pointed me to the shingle on the front door as you enter the forum and it is open to all posters. She didnt design the forum for any one group. I dont want to put words in her mouth but I believe she likened it to a biker bar. Maybe I dont fit in with my shirt and tie. Maybe I get the shit beat out of me because I speak against the group think here, but the bartender still serves me just as quickly as the regulars and I still do ride a bike on occasions.
If you are offended by my short hair cut and shaven face then you will have to get over it. I am not going to sit in the corner and listen to you whine about how we dont deserve to be here. Just skip over out posts or PM your friend "Pile of Dead Kids" or "Dysfunction Junction" and plan to help them with another pornography site to embarrass another 15 year old girl and her family if that is how you view sincere posting and adding value.
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Look at it this way: SUCK IT's arguments are so weak that he has to manufacture some "blackmail drama" in order to discredit "Fornits" and try to make people feel it's "unsafe." If he had any intellectual acuity he could make valid points that would hold up under scrutiny. Since he can't he cries "Poor me! Fornits threatened me! I feel unsafe!" It's the trademark of the loser.
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I'm an adult who posted things on the internet, and people found them. I talked about my job and using their internet which could get me fired. These are my mistakes, and I can live with them, even if posterX tries to get me fired. I'm a big boy, and I will live with the consequences of being naive and trusting.
If I was trying to convince parents about the lack of credibility, and danger of coming here for advice, I'm sure the recent case of a 15 year old girl's family being stalked, hacked and publicly humiliated would be a much better argument for me to make. But that's not my agenda, despite the constant guessing and theorizing about why I post here. I am just here to share my experiences, and my opinions and things I think about sometimes. I went to treatment programs, one of which has its own forum here, and I earned my right to my opinions. This forum claims to be an open free for all, I accept that. It appears many other posters do not. I suggest you take it up with the admins and beg them for your "safe place" and they might pity you enough to create your own little forum on the bottom, that gets a couple posts per year.
If my agenda was to convince parents not to post here, it really wouldn't be that difficult. But don't you think I might choose a more suitable screen name, to retain some credibility for myself? If my goal was to lie and to portray a person who loves all programs that ever existed, and sell a specific program, is this how I would really go about it? Don't you think I might post links to programs in my signature, and collect my referral fee? Better yet, don't you think I would mention the name of the program I went to? The answer to these questions does not fit in with the current conspiracy theory, so they aren't asked. People refuse to accept the simple truth that I am somebody who went through a program on this forum (no I don't call myself "survivor" ) and I have opinions that, gasp, differ from the acceptable cult speak that is rehashed again and again here by the same small group of extremists.
Think about it, how many kids have gone through various treatment programs? All the different types of programs, you know that you all love to paint with the broad brush of abuse and injustice. Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands? Fornits is probably the biggest forum that exists related to the TTI, and as people have explained, this is where the extreme anti program people like to hang out. How many of you are there? 5? 10? 15? Now divide that number by the number of kids you think went through programs. What does that equal out to? Probably close to 0.0000001% or thereabouts. You represent a extremely slim minority, who are vocal and militant about their views. Whooter's position, my views, they are very mainstream and typical. But remaining in the group think and echo chamber that fornits is, people start to assume that reality is represented here, when in fact this place is a den of angry extremists. In the political spectrum, you are the equivalent of white supremacists, the black panthers, and other political extremists groups that represent a tiny population but are militant and aggressive in their views/actions. Those people believe they are right just as much as you do. Time to look in the mirror fornits, you might not like what you see.
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:feedtrolls: SUCK IT is as phony as they come. Queer as a three dollar bill.
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With a name like "SUCK IT" I imagine it would be hard to resist.
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With a name like "SUCK IT" I imagine it would be hard to resist.
This might be funny to you, and me. But what about the "survivors" reading this that were sent away to a program all for being bisexual or gay? Do people using the gay angle to insult me, or others, think about how these people perceive their immature brand of humor?
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Again, Whooter we can agree or disagree with who belongs. I am simply nostalgic for another time here that passed. There were programmies at that time as well, so you can't tell me it's all about one sidedness.
But once again, you have purposely aligned me with an act that I protested and had nothing. You have flooded other threads with your KNOWN lies. This is indicative of your bad character. You are a liar and a defamer. I feel sorry for your family and your newborn son. Have you selected the program you intend to send him to yet?
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With a name like "SUCK IT" I imagine it would be hard to resist.
This might be funny to you, and me. But what about the "survivors" reading this that were sent away to a program all for being bisexual or gay? Do people using the gay angle to insult me, or others, think about how these people perceive their immature brand of humor?
Immature brand of humor? You call people who disagree with you "child rapist." You, SUCK IT, are a sick bastard, no matter how you cut it up or parse it. You're the worst of the bunch here.
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Aww. Yeah, it's probably fake, posterX hasn't been back with the goods.
Good point. If PosterX was real he'd be back here publicly outing SUCK IT, not just (supposedly) calling his boss.
Suck it is definitely not a survivor. It plays the same games as and writes like Expose Cedu.
Can you check if its Expose Cedu? If it is, she's banned. Please enforce the ban?
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Again, Whooter we can agree or disagree with who belongs. I am simply nostalgic for another time here that passed. There were programmies at that time as well, so you can't tell me it's all about one sidedness.
But once again, you have purposely aligned me with an act that I protested and had nothing. You have flooded other threads with your KNOWN lies. This is indicative of your bad character. You are a liar and a defamer. I feel sorry for your family and your newborn son. Have you selected the program you intend to send him to yet?
Newborn son? He only has two sons; both with over 18 years of life behind them, one is living and there's one he murdered. John D Reuben's his name, murdering his own sons is his game. Or do you know soemthing I don't? Please share.
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Immature brand of humor? You call people who disagree with you "child rapist." You, SUCK IT, are a sick bastard, no matter how you cut it up or parse it. You're the worst of the bunch here.
I'm sure you'll get over it eventually.
I already have. But you'll never live it down. People know what type of scum you are. You are the worst of the worst here. Bottom of the cesspool. I thought your program "helped" you? If you're an exemplar of the mentally ill walking wounded they turn out people should take note.
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I already have. But you'll never live it down. People know what type of scum you are. You are the worst of the worst here. Bottom of the cesspool.
Did you see the cartoon it made of you. It was really intricate. It must have taken 3 hours to create. She deleted it after she posted it. I should have Q it FT. Insane.
Why'd you take down your DJ cartoon Suckit?
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Again, Whooter we can agree or disagree with who belongs. I am simply nostalgic for another time here that passed. There were programmies at that time as well, so you can't tell me it's all about one sidedness.
But once again, you have purposely aligned me with an act that I protested and had nothing. You have flooded other threads with your KNOWN lies. This is indicative of your bad character. You are a liar and a defamer. I feel sorry for your family and your newborn son. Have you selected the program you intend to send him to yet?
I have not done any flooding. I have posted against Dysfunction Junction Toe to Toe to give him a taste of his own medicine. I havent seen you protest his actions or the fact he posted another persons personal information. These things apparently are okay with you. Personally I feel it is one of the worse things a poster can do but since he is anti-program like yourself the rules dont apply.
Think about if I posted a survivors personal information who was trying to tell their story in an attempt to get them to leave.. would you stay silent like you do with DJ and say "Oh well"?
When you choose to ignore this type of action it speak much about you and what you stand for, so dont pretend that you really care about anyone except yourself,Samara.
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He was banned for flooding. He's a liar. "Toe to toe" means I post his quotes with links to the originals and he picks up where SUCK IT left off and calls me a "child rapist" and fabricates literally hundreds of quotes trying to pass them off as me. He doesn't like to be exposed in his own words so he just lies and lies and lies and calls nasty names.
Think about if I posted a survivors personal information who was trying to tell their story in an attempt to get them to leave..
That's exactly what he did to RB. Even claimed he had RBs treatment records from HLA and that RB had "gay issues" and problems with "dog fucking." Don't let him fool you, Samara. He is as sick as they come and lives his whole life by a double standard.
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He was banned for flooding. He's a liar. "Toe to toe" means I post his quotes with links to the originals and he picks up where SUCK IT left off and calls me a "child rapist" and fabricates literally hundreds of quotes trying to pass them off as me. He doesn't like to be exposed in his own words so he just lies and lies and lies and calls nasty names.
Think about if I posted a survivors personal information who was trying to tell their story in an attempt to get them to leave..
That's exactly what he did to RB. Even claimed he had RBs treatment records from HLA and that RB had "gay issues" and problems with "dog fucking." Don't let him fool you, Samara. He is as sick as they come and lives his whole life by a double standard.
Let Samara decide for him/herself, I can provide links to original posts. Yours are all lies, DJ.:
Then ask your friend DJ if it is okay to post peoples personal information on the forum and place them in danger like they did to Morgan. This happened today take a look:
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=374870#p374870)
You only see what you want to.
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I hope that every bit of SUCK ITs elaborate lie of yesterday will be forever remembered and referred to when addressing him. It will remain as a monument to his pathological fascination with lying. Fucking A KUDOS to Psy for spotting that shit right out the door although Che seemed to be on top of it as well so kudos both. See SUCK IT is the kind of person who has thrived by lying and manipulating others for his entire parasytical existence. Whether or not he is currently using drugs has now become irrelevant because his anti-social behavioral issues are still the dominant factor in his life. He probably honed these malignant skills while in the WWASP. Yes parents who are considering a program, please look at SUCK IT and decide if you want your child to turn out like this.
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I hope that every bit of SUCK ITs elaborate lie of yesterday will be forever remembered and referred to when addressing him. It will remain as a monument to his pathological fascination with lying. Fucking A KUDOS to Psy for spotting that shit right out the door although Che seemed to be on top of it as well so kudos both. See SUCK IT is the kind of person who has thrived by lying and manipulating others for his entire parasytical existence. Whether or not he is currently using drugs has now become irrelevant because his anti-social behavioral issues are still the dominant factor in his life. He probably honed these malignant skills while in the WWASP. Yes parents who are considering a program, please look at SUCK IT and decide if you want your child to turn out like this.
Its a program parent.
And since John David Reuben "whooter" was banned, please enforce that ban.
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Suck it deleted it's post in where it confirmed it made an intricate cartoon of DJ. Why would she do that?
Didn't they teach you to be honest in those EST seminars?
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Because the first place parents considering treatment go, is fornits, right? Parents go to the professionals, educational consultants and call the programs directly, after they Google them and do research. Everyone here knows what happens to families who come looking for advice about programs, and it's not pretty. Go take a look at the last family's personal hate-website created for them, for the sin of considering sending a child of theirs to a program, never mentioned once on fornits, or anywhere else as abusive.
My life was saved by a program, I know this to be true, with everything I am. People can threaten me, blackmail me, curse me, call me scum or whatever. I will continue to post here and share my opinions. I earned my right to my opinions by what I experienced, and the hatred of people here is not going to change this. I know what is true and I am willing to be honest. I refuse to be called your cult terms like "survivor", and spout mindless black and white propaganda, and mythology and conspiracy theories about treatment and posters here. I can see why this has upset the group think cult that has emerged from this supposed "open free for all", a meaningless banner slogan if their ever was one, akin to Arbeit macht frei, since the users here don't respect any opinions contrary to the acceptable cult narrative. Well here I am posting my truth and there is nothing you can do about it. So I guess you're are just going to have to live with it. How you react, is your choice.
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Because the first place parents considering treatment go, is fornits, right? Parents go to the professionals, educational consultants and call the programs directly, after they Google them and do research. Everyone here knows what happens to families who come looking for advice about programs, and it's not pretty. Go take a look at the last family's personal hate-website created for them, for the sin of considering sending a child of theirs to a program, never mentioned once on fornits, or anywhere else as abusive.
My life was saved by a program, I know this to be true, with everything I am. People can threaten me, blackmail me, curse me, call me scum or whatever. I will continue to post here and share my opinions. I earned my right to my opinions by what I experienced, and the hatred of people here is not going to change this. I know what is true and I am willing to be honest. I refuse to be called your cult terms like "survivor", and spout mindless black and white propaganda, and mythology and conspiracy theories about treatment and posters here. I can see why this has upset the group think cult that has emerged from this supposed "open free for all", a meaningless banner slogan if their ever was one, akin to Arbeit macht frei, since the users here don't respect any opinions contrary to the acceptable cult narrative. Well here I am posting my truth and there is nothing you can do about it. So I guess you're are just going to have to live with it. How you react, is your choice.
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I hope that every bit of SUCK ITs elaborate lie of yesterday will be forever remembered and referred to when addressing him. It will remain as a monument to his pathological fascination with lying. Fucking A KUDOS to Psy for spotting that shit right out the door although Che seemed to be on top of it as well so kudos both. See SUCK IT is the kind of person who has thrived by lying and manipulating others for his entire parasytical existence. Whether or not he is currently using drugs has now become irrelevant because his anti-social behavioral issues are still the dominant factor in his life. He probably honed these malignant skills while in the WWASP. Yes parents who are considering a program, please look at SUCK IT and decide if you want your child to turn out like this.
Its a program parent.
And since John David Reuben "whooter" was banned, please enforce that ban.
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Suck it deleted it's post in where it confirmed it made an intricate cartoon of DJ. Why would she do that?
Didn't they teach you to be honest in those EST seminars?
Then continue on with Pile of Dead Kids for exposing a 15 year old girl (who came to fornits for help) and placing here picture and contact information on a porn site.
Then also Dysfunction junction for posting a survivors name,contact information and phone number on the open forum because he disagreed with him.
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Because the first place parents considering treatment go, is fornits, right? Parents go to the professionals, educational consultants and call the programs directly, after they Google them and do research. Everyone here knows what happens to families who come looking for advice about programs, and it's not pretty. Go take a look at the last family's personal hate-website created for them, for the sin of considering sending a child of theirs to a program, never mentioned once on fornits, or anywhere else as abusive.
Two people did that, neither of which ever attended a program. I too wasn't happy with what happened. All it does is make parents even more determined that the opposition to programs is unstable. They don't listen and more kids get sent to programs. Parents need to be persuaded and talked to calmly, not bulldozed with 4chan style bullshit. Such things have their place, but not when your'e trying to win people over.
My life was saved by a program, I know this to be true, with everything I am.
No. You believe it. In order to prove a program is objectively effective you need a formal independent study with a control group. Lots of people believe in astrology, or crystals, or body thetans and so on and so forth. They too swear up and down that their ideologies saved their lives. Doesn't make it a fact.
Can you prove that if you weren't sent to a WWASP program you would be worse off? No. You can't.
People can threaten me, blackmail me, curse me, call me scum or whatever.
People may have called you names, but nobody ever blackmailed you. And you dare accuse others of playing the victim or crying wolf.
What WWASP program were you in, SUCK IT, if you even were in a program?
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Two people did that, neither of which ever attended a program. I too wasn't happy with what happened. All it does is make parents even more determined that the opposition to programs is unstable. They don't listen and more kids get sent to programs. Parents need to be persuaded and talked to calmly, not bulldozed with 4chan style bullshit. Such things have their place, but not when your'e trying to win people over.
That is why parents with any sense avoid fornits like the plague. Only the naive and ignorant parents come here looking for advice, that's why it's such a rare occurrence. It doesn't take long for them to learn the true nature of the extremists who post here. Yet you wonder why people like me don't willingly give up more personal info about ourselves, you know, to "help our credibility". Well it's nice you are concerned about my credibility, but I think I have learned the hard way to keep the personal details about myself to a minimum. I have stated I went to a program that has its own forum on this forum, and that's the only information I feel like sharing at this point. Some people might be impressed by your red title and give up information believing in your "trustworthiness", I know better.
No. You believe it. In order to prove a program is objectively effective you need a formal independent study with a control group. Lots of people believe in astrology, or crystals, or body thetans and so on and so forth. They too swear up and down that their ideologies saved their lives. Doesn't make it a fact.
Can you prove that if you weren't sent to a WWASP program you would be worse off? No. You can't.
I'll take you more seriously when you ask "survivors" for proof when they say they were abused, and studies that prove that programs are all abusive and should be avoided. Until then we have to go on our personal experiences, I have stated that my life was saved by a program and that is true. I can't speak for other people, but I know what happened to me.
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Quite an elaborate charade you had going there.
Too bad it's over.
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I'll take you more seriously when you ask "survivors" for proof when they say they were abused, and studies that prove that programs are all abusive and should be avoided.
You're reversing the burden of proof. When a drug company releases a drug they have to prove that it is effective and safe in many trials. They don't get to release whatever snake oil they want and demand proof it's harmful.
Until then we have to go on our personal experiences, I have stated that my life was saved by a program and that is true. I can't speak for other people, but I know what happened to me.
You avoided the question I asked. What program were you in, if you were in fact in a program, which i'm starting to doubt. You claim a WWASP program. Which WWASP program? You lied about being blackmailed, why not show there is some truth in your words.
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Hey SUCK IT. Why not just prove you're telling the truth by asking Psy to check the IPs and see for sure if you're telling the truth about not being PosterX. Seems to me the only reason you wouldn't do that is if you're lying as everybody already knows.
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Oh, Danny, please don't try to hurt my feelings with your dry-drunk rages. Why would you do that, Danny? Are you going to try to drag me behind your car now, too, Danny? Please, Danny, stop being so abusive. It's unbecoming, Danny. Try not to be powerless over being abusive toward others, Danny. What happened to those PMs you sent me, Danny? Remember apologizing for your past abuses of me, Danny? Did you forget about that, Danny? Danny, are you drinking again?
There. That should satisfy the attention-whoring Danny for a little while. It's all about you, Danno. No worries.
You just proved my point. I know get it. You are a real bitch!!!!
But Danny, what about your "olive branch" you offered me via PM? Was that not sincere, Danny? Tell me, Danny, was that just part of your steps?
Danny, yesterday you were denying this "olive branch" you sent me. Now you just deleted the post with your denials. So now you admit to PMing me groveling for my forgiveness??
I did not delete anything of the sort. Half the time I don't know where my posts go nor care either. Well, that is not true. I do care.
DJ, what do you want from me?? I never sent you a olive branch personally, why would I have to, I really don't have a problem with you.
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I'll take you more seriously when you ask "survivors" for proof when they say they were abused, and studies that prove that programs are all abusive and should be avoided.
You're reversing the burden of proof. When a drug company releases a drug they have to prove that it is effective and safe in many trials. They don't get to release whatever snake oil they want and demand proof it's harmful.
Until then we have to go on our personal experiences, I have stated that my life was saved by a program and that is true. I can't speak for other people, but I know what happened to me.
You avoided the question I asked. What program were you in, if you were in fact in a program, which i'm starting to doubt. You claim a WWASP program. Which WWASP program? You lied about being blackmailed, why not show there is some truth in your words.
It doesn't bother me in the least that you question my credibility, or think everything I write is fiction. You aren't the first person to claim this. Questioning my credibility to get me to release more personal information about myself is a worn tactic that will not work. My opinions have always been regarded as untrue to the extremists who post here, I feel no obligation to prove myself to anyone here. Believe me, or not. I could care less.
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" I feel no obligation to prove myself to anyone here. Believe me, or not. I could care less."
Then why not just go the fuck away?
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Hey SUCK IT. Why not just prove you're telling the truth by asking Psy to check the IPs and see for sure if you're telling the truth about not being PosterX. Seems to me the only reason you wouldn't do that is if you're lying as everybody already knows.
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The thing about posters like Psy and Dysfunction Junction is, they think you're stupid. They think everybody that reads fornits is stupid, and that they are smart. So they go around the forum telling other people what to think. Think about it like this, if we were in a debate club in high school. When we get to a debate the topic is are teen programs abusive? Your opposing team is on the opposite side of the stage, and you win the coin toss. In your opening statement, instead of arguing the point that programs are abusive, but you instead start to berate the other team with personal questions. "Where did you go to school!? What makes you credible to answer this?! I think you are lying!!" Then your opponents get their turn, and they make a logical,well reasoned and rational argument about why programs are safe, in a confident and well mannered way. Which side would you vote to win?
Psy felt the need to interject himself into this debate, because he believes I was fooling people in some elaborate game, by blackmailing myself and posting my own pictures. He makes up lies about having proof, yet offers nothing but guesses, and theories sent to him via private message. If you make an accusation, you should be able to prove it. All you have is a guess, and your questioning of me. Well I refuse to answer your absurd questions, or allow myself to be digitally stripped searched and have my IP information revealed. If you have proof, then post it. Until then, all you have is another theory. People have told me I am Whooter, I am a program parent, I am this, I am that. This isn't the first time, and it won't be the last. But the specific way people like Psy and Dysfunction try to herd the crowd of loyal cult followers here shows what this forum is truly like. They believe it because Psy says it's so, all hail our mighty red named cult God.
I'm here to tell it like it is, and get honest. I don't care to fit in with the crowd here, or participate in group think and outlandish theorizing. I went through a program that has its own forum here, and since this forum claims to welcome all opinions, then I have every right to post here and will continue to. If people want to ignore me, great. It will leave my threads less cluttered and easier to navigate. But don't assume everybody other than yourself is stupid, and you need to police my reputation for other people, or enlighten them as to what is really going on (everyone seems to have their own theory). If I am full of shit, then people are smart enough to figure that out for themselves. Also, consider this, if I was really concerned with what people thought of me don't you think I might have chosen a different username? One that doesn't insult a person every time they think of me? I don't have an agenda other than offering my opinions based on my experiences in treatment, and that's what I'll continue to do. I post what I believe and I won't withhold my opinions simply to fit in with the group cult here and to save myself from it's wrath.
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Hey SUCK IT. Why not just prove you're telling the truth by asking Psy to check the IPs and see for sure if you're telling the truth about not being PosterX. Seems to me the only reason you wouldn't do that is if you're lying as everybody already knows.
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Put up or shut up, SUCK FEST.
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I usually ignore conspiracy theories but I'll humor you for a moment. I have dial up internet. That means my IP address changes every time I sign in here. So even if I was another poster, it would be from a different IP address. You are asking for proof of something you really dont' want the answer to. But, let me make clear, I refuse to have this information made public, as a matter of principle. I will not cede my personal information to an angry mob of cult extremists demanding proof to negate their outlandish theories of the moment. A lot of people demand Obama birth certificate be released, you sound just like them. So go right ahead and believe in bullshit theories if you wish, that's your choice. Remaining ignorant and assumptions of facts seems to be the way of things on fornits. Why break with tradition?
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The thing about posters like Psy and Dysfunction Junction is, they think you're stupid. They think everybody that reads fornits is stupid, and that they are smart. So they go around the forum telling other people what to think. Think about it like this, if we were in a debate club in high school. When we get to a debate the topic is are teen programs abusive? Your opposing team is on the opposite side of the stage, and you win the coin toss. In your opening statement, instead of arguing the point that programs are abusive, but you instead start to berate the other team with personal questions. "Where did you go to school!? What makes you credible to answer this?! I think you are lying!!" Then your opponents get their turn, and they make a logical,well reasoned and rational argument about why programs are safe, in a confident and well mannered way. Which side would you vote to win?
You aren't stupid, but you certainly aren't that good of a troll either. Don't quite your day job at starbucks.
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I usually ignore conspiracy theories but I'll humor you for a moment. I have dial up internet. That means my IP address changes every time I sign in here. So even if I was another poster, it would be from a different IP address. You are asking for proof of something you really dont' want the answer to. But, let me make clear, I refuse to have this information made public, as a matter of principle. I will not cede my personal information to an angry mob of cult extremists demanding proof to negate their outlandish theories of the moment.
Oh well. But I figure you're probably bullshitting about the blackmail thing, so I'll assume that's the case since it's the more likely explanation.
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The thing about posters like Psy and Dysfunction Junction is, they think you're stupid. They think everybody that reads fornits is stupid, and that they are smart. So they go around the forum telling other people what to think. Think about it like this, if we were in a debate club in high school. When we get to a debate the topic is are teen programs abusive? Your opposing team is on the opposite side of the stage, and you win the coin toss. In your opening statement, instead of arguing the point that programs are abusive, but you instead start to berate the other team with personal questions. "Where did you go to school!? What makes you credible to answer this?! I think you are lying!!" Then your opponents get their turn, and they make a logical,well reasoned and rational argument about why programs are safe, in a confident and well mannered way. Which side would you vote to win?
You aren't stupid, but you certainly aren't that good of a troll either. Don't quite your day job at starbucks.
That is good advice, some people should listen to it. If they want to convince all the invisible parents coming to fornits everyday for advice on where to send their teen, the one's they are worried suck it or Whooter might influence, posting disgusting pictures and short posts questioning other people's credibility probably won't do the trick.
Oh well. But I figure you're probably bullshitting about the blackmail thing, so I'll assume that's the case since it's the more likely explanation.
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You are free to question my credibility, and I'm glad you do. Everybody should take everything they read with a grain of salt, and think about things for themselves and draw their own conclusions. I share my experiences and opinions and I'll let other people conclude what they want about me, and what I say. Even if every other poster on fornits hated what I was saying, questioned it and said I was a liar, I would still say it, because it's my truth and nothing will change that.
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You have no cred..
You faked this whole thing with your posterX persona to create some sort of drama for yourself. You refuse to identify which WWASP program you attended and your posts are awfully evasive, much like the whooters posts in style and in empty content.
Odd that.
I suggest you let psy prove it once and for all with an IP check.
Oh wait, you won't do that now will you, of course not.
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I usually ignore conspiracy theories but I'll humor you for a moment. I have dial up internet. That means my IP address changes every time I sign in here. So even if I was another poster, it would be from a different IP address.
Psy could verify or disprove that as well. Why not ask him to do it?
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You have no cred..
You faked this whole thing with your posterX persona to create some sort of drama for yourself. You refuse to identify which WWASP program you attended and your posts are awfully evasive, much like the whooters posts in style and in empty content.
Odd that.
I suggest you let psy prove it once and for all with an IP check.
Oh wait, you won't do that now will you, of course not.
I really, really don't care what people think about me here. I'll continue to post here even if everyone posts I have no credibility. If only you would release more personal information, they say, you might gain some of that valuable credibility back for yourself. I'm not an idiot, I don't fall for this sort of tactic. But good try everyone, for as much as you complain about LGAT tactics here, you sure are good at it. Irony is not in short supply on this forum. I don't fit in with a band of extremist cult group thinker's who believe in outlandish conspiracy theories and unrealistic idealistic goals based on mythology and generalizations. I think I'll live.
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I usually ignore conspiracy theories but I'll humor you for a moment. I have dial up internet. That means my IP address changes every time I sign in here. So even if I was another poster, it would be from a different IP address.
Psy could verify or disprove that as well. Why not ask him to do it?
Why won't Obama release his birth certificate?
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I really, really don't care what people think about me here. I'll continue to post here even if everyone posts I have no credibility. If only you would release more personal information, they say, you might gain some of that valuable credibility back for yourself. I'm not an idiot, I don't fall for this sort of tactic. But good try everyone, for as much as you complain about LGAT tactics here, you sure are good at it. Irony is not in short supply on this forum. I don't fit in with a band of extremist cult group thinker's who believe in outlandish conspiracy theories and unrealistic idealistic goals based on mythology and generalizations. I think I'll live.
Asking Psy to check the IPs is not releasing personal information. It's confirming or disproving a whale of a blackmale tale you've already released publicly. You demand proof from survivors of abuse yet hold yourself to some special standard. This is not an LGAT or an attack therapy session. You can leave at any time. You are not being verbally abused. You are simply being held to the same standard you demand of others after making serious accusations. The only reason why you would not ask this of Psy is if you are lying and you are in fact PosterX.
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I really, really don't care what people think about me here. I'll continue to post here even if everyone posts I have no credibility. If only you would release more personal information, they say, you might gain some of that valuable credibility back for yourself. I'm not an idiot, I don't fall for this sort of tactic. But good try everyone, for as much as you complain about LGAT tactics here, you sure are good at it. Irony is not in short supply on this forum. I don't fit in with a band of extremist cult group thinker's who believe in outlandish conspiracy theories and unrealistic idealistic goals based on mythology and generalizations. I think I'll live.
Asking Psy to check the IPs is not releasing personal information. It's confirming or disproving a whale of a blackmale tale you've already released publicly. You demand proof from survivors of abuse yet hold yourself to some special standard. This is not an LGAT or an attack therapy session. You can leave at any time. You are not being verbally abused. You are simply being held to the same standard you demand of others after making serious accusations. The only reason why you would not ask this of Psy is if you are lying and you are in fact PosterX.
You are free to believe in bullshit conspiracy theories if that's what you choose. I choose not to cede to the whims of an angry mob of extremists demanding I pull my digital pants down to let their cult leader take a look. I've had enough personal information of mine released, I will not willingly authorize anyone to pry any further. Enough. If you don't understand the principle of this, then I can offer no further explanation that will make it any clearer. What you are arguing is the same as saying the government should have every right to spy on citizens, after all, if you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about? The principle of freedom is important, and to stand up to group of angry demands being hurled by conspiracy theorists is important in my view. In time, I really believe you will eventually get over this thread. Or you can get angry and keep asking the same question again and again, just like the people claiming Obama was born in Kenya and he needs to release his birth certificate. There is no reasoning with conspiracy theorists, because the theory just morphs when burdened with reality. From this point on I am not going to address this bullshit, but you are, of course, free to post as much as you want about it. Knock yourself out.
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This is all pretty entertaining for me.
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Since I can sense people are going to continue talking about this, let me offer you a preemptive thought before you post. Let's say I do authorize my IP information to be scrutinized, and Psy comes back and says suck it and posterX have different IP's. What will people say then?
Will people suddenly believe everything I say, and find me totally "credible" and stop harassing me with personal questions after every post I make? Unlikely. Or would people then conclude that I was telling the truth about dial up service with random IP each use, and still accuse me of being posterX? Likely. Or would people conclude that I am able to use a simple tool within my web browser to switch my IP? Also likely. You see, if I participate in this mob induced exercise in futility, all that will happen is that more personal information about me will be released, to somebody I consider untrustworthy and likely to share that information. I will regain no credibility amongst the extremists here, it will not change my standing or make me any more believable to those demanding this information, so what's the point?
So what do I get out of this exercise? Nothing, it's a lose, lose situation for me no matter what I do. So I choose not to play this game, and I will retain what little privacy I have left. If people want to keep using the equation that lack of personal information equals less credibility, that's fine with me, I'd rather have privacy than fornits version of credibility. You will not get me to reveal information I don't want to using these manipulative tactics. As far as my posts are concerned, you can take it or leave it. You are also free to ignore me, and the threads I start, consider it if this type of honest discussion bothers you. I do get a kick out of all the various conspiracy theories, though, and how often they change, seemingly by the day. Fornits is amusing in that way.
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Since I can sense people are going to continue talking about this, let me offer you a preemptive thought before you post. Let's say I do authorize my IP information to be scrutinized, and Psy comes back and says suck it and posterX have different IP's. What will people say then?
People would still disagree with your opinions about programs but at least they would consider you a little more honest.
Will people suddenly believe everything I say, and find me totally "credible" and stop harassing me with personal questions after every post I make? Unlikely. Or would people then conclude that I was telling the truth about dial up service with random IP each use, and still accuse me of being posterX? Likely. Or would people conclude that I am able to use a simple tool within my web browser to switch my IP? Also likely.
Maybe. You've nothing to lose, however, and possibly something to gain. At least you could prove everybody wrong. Why not do that if you are telling the truth?
You see, if I participate in this mob induced exercise in futility, all that will happen is that more personal information about me will be released, to somebody I consider untrustworthy and likely to share that information. I will regain no credibility amongst the extremists here, it will not change my standing or make me any more believable to those demanding this information, so what's the point?
Well. Right now it's not just the opinions of the "extremists" to worry about. I assume you post here to speak to more than just them. Right now, as it stands, there is very strong evidence that you are a liar and you attempted to frame the other side of the arguent to make them look bad. That damages your credibility on all sides. I haven't heard a peep out of Whooter or Danny Benisson recently to defend you. Even they most likely frown on what you've done. At least if you did ask me to prove you innocent, you could regain some honor in their eyes, or the eyes of the parents you likely speak to. Like iJust said, the only reason you wouldn't do this is because you are in fact PosterX and fabricated this whole blackmail story.
As it stands know, you're refusal to defend yourself or back up your allegations is more than enough proof anybody needs to show you a liar. You're right in the sense that you lose no matter what you do. You are PosterX. It's not a conspiracy theory. You were caught. You might as well give up now because any time you post in a thread, i'm going to make sure to post a link to this thread along with a detailed walkthrough as to exactly how you are a liar and what depths you were willing to sink to. You cried wolf, and nobody will ever believe you again. At this point I don't even believe you were in a program (at least not as a detainee/client/student/whatever).
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People would still disagree with your opinions about programs but at least they would consider you a little more honest.
I think you are wrong about this. I think that people would realize that two posters having different IP addresses doesn't really prove anything, and continue to hurl the same theory indefinitely.
Well. Right now it's not just the opinions of the "extremists" to worry about. I assume you post here to speak to more than just them. Right now, as it stands, there is very strong evidence that you are a liar and you attempted to frame the other side of the arguent to make them look bad. That damages your credibility on all sides.
I speak to whoever wants to read what I write. I am not going to work hard to answer every little nitpicking question someone throws my way just because they question my credibility.
I haven't heard a peep out of Whooter or Danny Benisson recently. Even they frown on what you've done.
Oh no. Perhaps that's why they didn't pick up the phone for our regularly scheduled nightly phone chat? We were all planning on a weekend cruise this weekend to discuss fornits strategy and planning, I hope I didn't ruin things with them, I was really excited about that.
At least if you did ask me to prove you innocent, you could regain some honor in their eyes, or the eyes of the parents you likely speak to.
You are a good manipulator, I'll give you that much credit. But me and posterX having different IP does not "prove me innocent", and you know that Psy. It only proves that I use dial up, know how to change my IP address, or any number of possibilities other than the truth that I am not them. You know this, but are using this credibility angle to try to get me to allow you to find out more information about me. It won't work, sorry.
Like iJust said, the only reason you wouldn't do this is because you are in fact PosterX and fabricated this whole blackmail story.
I've explained in detail why I refuse to pull my pants down on command in front of the enraged mob here. I can't believe you actually can say something like "prove your innocent" with a straight face, this is America, innocent until proven guilty. This sounds more like a commie court room, or is it a cult group think session?
As it stands know, you're refusal to defend yourself or back up your allegations is more than enough proof anybody needs to show you a liar. You're right in the sense that you lose no matter what you do. You are PosterX. It's not a conspiracy theory. You were caught. You might as well give up now because any time you post in a thread, i'm going to make sure to post a link to this thread along with a detailed walkthrough as to exactly how you are a liar and what depths you were willing to sink to. You cried wolf, and nobody will ever believe you again. At this point I don't even believe you were in a program (at least not as a detainee/client/student/whatever).
Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting. That's right, it's just a guess, a theory of yours. I know you desperately need to convince your cult followers that you're right. But you picked a losing battle here, because all you have is more conspiracy theories and assumptions. If you think linking to a 200 post thread to people helps your position, go right ahead, see if it helps. My posts and opinions speak for themselves, I don't need to stalk other posters trying to discredit them. You can act just like the people obsessed with Whooter, who make elaborate conspiracy threads quoting him dishonestly and trying to discredit him. You think anybody other than the extremist regulars read that crap? Feel free to waste your time as Whooter's stalkers do, it doesn't bother me in the least. I'll continue to post here, and share my opinions and experiences. I went through a treatment program with its own forum here, and I earned my right to my opinions. I will not be bullied into revealing more personal information about myself, or into silence by anyone, even the leader of the cult with a special red name.
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You are a good manipulator
How typical of a program supporter to call the truth "manipulation".
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Perhaps you don't even realize it, or probably likely not comfortable admitting it to yourself. But only a true Orwellian could ever come up with something as twisted as "ask me to prove you innocent".
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No, what absolutely proves that this is a troll is the fact that posterX never got back here with your information. You did realize that there were only two ways this could end, right? Either he goes through with his threat, or it's proven to be bullshit.
And no, we're not about to buy that he suddenly had a change of heart.
(http://http://www.unforgivingminute.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/mario.jpg)
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Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting.
Ok then. Good choice. I'm glad you came to your senses and decided to let me check. Aha. Seems everybody was right. You are most definitely PosterX. Proof attached. It's a screenshot of the post info for your above post. I've blurred out your IP (not a dialup ISP) and your (many) other usernames.
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People would still disagree with your opinions about programs but at least they would consider you a little more honest.
I think you are wrong about this. I think that people would realize that two posters having different IP addresses doesn't really prove anything, and continue to hurl the same theory indefinitely.
Well. Right now it's not just the opinions of the "extremists" to worry about. I assume you post here to speak to more than just them. Right now, as it stands, there is very strong evidence that you are a liar and you attempted to frame the other side of the arguent to make them look bad. That damages your credibility on all sides.
I speak to whoever wants to read what I write. I am not going to work hard to answer every little nitpicking question someone throws my way just because they question my credibility.
I haven't heard a peep out of Whooter or Danny Benisson recently. Even they frown on what you've done.
Oh no. Perhaps that's why they didn't pick up the phone for our regularly scheduled nightly phone chat? We were all planning on a weekend cruise this weekend to discuss fornits strategy and planning, I hope I didn't ruin things with them, I was really excited about that.
At least if you did ask me to prove you innocent, you could regain some honor in their eyes, or the eyes of the parents you likely speak to.
You are a good manipulator, I'll give you that much credit. But me and posterX having different IP does not "prove me innocent", and you know that Psy. It only proves that I use dial up, know how to change my IP address, or any number of possibilities other than the truth that I am not them. You know this, but are using this credibility angle to try to get me to allow you to find out more information about me. It won't work, sorry.
Like iJust said, the only reason you wouldn't do this is because you are in fact PosterX and fabricated this whole blackmail story.
I've explained in detail why I refuse to pull my pants down on command in front of the enraged mob here. I can't believe you actually can say something like "prove your innocent" with a straight face, this is America, innocent until proven guilty. This sounds more like a commie court room, or is it a cult group think session?
As it stands know, you're refusal to defend yourself or back up your allegations is more than enough proof anybody needs to show you a liar. You're right in the sense that you lose no matter what you do. You are PosterX. It's not a conspiracy theory. You were caught. You might as well give up now because any time you post in a thread, i'm going to make sure to post a link to this thread along with a detailed walkthrough as to exactly how you are a liar and what depths you were willing to sink to. You cried wolf, and nobody will ever believe you again. At this point I don't even believe you were in a program (at least not as a detainee/client/student/whatever).
Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting. That's right, it's just a guess, a theory of yours. I know you desperately need to convince your cult followers that you're right. But you picked a losing battle here, because all you have is more conspiracy theories and assumptions. If you think linking to a 200 post thread to people helps your position, go right ahead, see if it helps. My posts and opinions speak for themselves, I don't need to stalk other posters trying to discredit them. You can act just like the people obsessed with Whooter, who make elaborate conspiracy threads quoting him dishonestly and trying to discredit him. You think anybody other than the extremist regulars read that crap? Feel free to waste your time as Whooter's stalkers do, it doesn't bother me in the least. I'll continue to post here, and share my opinions and experiences. I went through a treatment program with its own forum here, and I earned my right to my opinions. I will not be bullied into revealing more personal information about myself, or into silence by anyone, even the leader of the cult with a special red name.
qft
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Wow, that's a lot of alts.
And a lot of massive self-ownage.
In other words... he's his own bitch! :rofl:
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Wow, that's a lot of alts.
And a lot of massive self-ownage.
In other words... he's his own bitch! :rofl:
Well he demanded I provide proof of his innocence or guilt. People should be careful what they ask for.
Now that you've proved yourself beyond a doubt to be a liar, SUCK IT, do you have any proof you were actually in a program or should we take your refusal to talk about that under similar suspicion.
My guess is right about now SUCK IT is going back to delete all his posts, one by one. Too bad most of them are quoted or screenshot.
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Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting.
Ok then. Good choice. I'm glad you came to your senses and decided to let me check. Aha. Seems everybody was right. You are most definitely PosterX. Proof attached. It's a screenshot of the post info for your above post. I've blurred out your IP (not a dialup ISP) and your (many) other usernames.
Well now we can both accept the fate of diminished credibility. You know I wasn't authorizing my IP information to be released, you misquoted me, out of context and now attempt to make it seem like I gave you permission. Psy, I was hoping for this precise outome. To anyone with half a brain, they realize this thread was a joke. I have made many joke threads, tongue in cheek, to point out hypocrisy on this website in a humor filled way. This thread was over the top, tongue in cheek fun. The forum was dead slow when I posted this, and look how it kicked it into gear. I enjoy agitating discussion with out of the box techniques to get people to share their opinions and views. Isn't this a discussion forum? Where in the rules does it say you cannot have more than one username?
Yes I lied about not being posterX. I continued with the lie well passed the point of it being funny, in the hope Psy would do something like this. He in fact, has now proven that if you agitate the cult leaders here enough, they will break their own principles, bend their own rules, to win an argument and prove themselves right. Congratulations, you figured out this tongue wide in cheek thread was a joke. You have earned yourself a cookie. But you also have committed an action against your own principles, another reason people should not trust this forum, and definitely not trust the supposed "trustworthy" admin. You can keep claiming you didn't quote me asking for proof out of context, but it's pretty clear what I meant. You said you had proof before you checked, and I specifically did not authorize you to reveal my IP information. You chose to do it anyway. Now people have a clearer understanding of how fornits leadership truly works. I never had credibility on this forum, people know i joke around, and post tongue in cheek. So nothing new learned there. But we did learn an invaluable lesson about Psy and his leadership style today. I think this exercise has been positive, overall. Thank you everyone for participating, it's been an interesting 36 hours.
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Wow, that's a lot of alts.
And a lot of massive self-ownage.
In other words... he's his own bitch! :rofl:
Well he demanded I provide proof of his innocence or guilt. People should be careful what they ask for.
Now that you've proved yourself beyond a doubt to be a liar, SUCK IT, do you have any proof you were actually in a program or should we take your refusal to talk about that under similar suspicion.
My guess is right about now SUCK IT is going back to delete all his posts, one by one. Too bad most of them are quoted or screenshot.
No deletions tonight, Psy. You did exactly what I expected you to do. I lied and I know this made you angry, and knew you checked IP already and knew I was lying, yet you had no way of proving it. How frustrating that must have been for you. You had no proof other than the IP and finally pounced when you could plausibly take a quote of mine out of context. Slick, Psy, I'll give you that. But you just ruined your credibility amongst people believing this is a safe place to post, and I feel sad for you for doing that to yourself.
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Desperate desperation is desperate. :roflmao:
Light Yagami, you're not.
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Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting.
Ok then. Good choice. I'm glad you came to your senses and decided to let me check. Aha. Seems everybody was right. You are most definitely PosterX. Proof attached. It's a screenshot of the post info for your above post. I've blurred out your IP (not a dialup ISP) and your (many) other usernames.
Well now we can both accept the fate of diminished credibility. You know I wasn't authorizing my IP information to be released, you misquoted me, out of context and now attempt to make it seem like I gave you permission. Psy, I was hoping for this precise outome. To anyone with half a brain, they realize this thread was a joke. I have made many joke threads, tongue in cheek, to point out hypocrisy on this website in a humor filled way. This thread was over the top, tongue in cheek fun. The forum was dead slow when I posted this, and look how it kicked it into gear. I enjoy agitating discussion with out of the box techniques to get people to share their opinions and views. Isn't this a discussion forum? Where in the rules does it say you cannot have more than one username?
Yes I lied about not being posterX. I continued with the lie well passed the point of it being funny, in the hope Psy would do something like this. He in fact, has no proven that if you agitate the cult leaders here enough, they will break their own principles, bend their own rules, to win an argument and prove themselves right. Congratulations, you figured out this tongue wide in cheek thread was a joke. You have earned yourself a cookie. But you also have committed an action against your own principles, another reason people should not trust this forum, and definitely not trust the supposed "trustworthy" admin. You can keep claiming you didn't quote me asking for proof out of context, but it's pretty clear what I meant. You said you had proof before you checked, and I specifically did not authorize you to reveal my IP information. You chose to do it anyway. Now people have a clearer understanding of how fornits leadership truly works. I never had credibility on this forum, people know i joke around, and post tongue in cheek. So nothing new learned there. But we did learn an invaluable lesson about Psy and his leadership style today. I think this exercise has been positive, overall. Thank you everyone for participating, it's been an interesting 36 hours.
Didn't break any rules. You asked me for proof after we just discussed the exact definition of what "proof" meant. And accusing the opposing side in an argument of blackmailing you is not a joke. An hour or so ago you edited the thread's first post to say:
This thread documents the failed attempt to blackmail me into silence. This is a common occurrence on this forum, beware releasing personal information to people here, say the wrong thing, and that info might be used against you.
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"ha ha, this was a joke and you fell for it, ha ha".
It was a serious attempt to spread lies about others to cause harm. Now you can attempt to edit that post again and make this sound like a joke but anybody who reads the thread, especially a condensed version pointing to certain key points in the thread, will know the truth about you.
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I have decided to allow SUCKED IT to post here because we have reached a private, undisclosed financial settlement.
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Really, really desperate desperation is really, really desperate. :rofl: :roflmao:
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I have decided to allow SUCKED IT to post here because we have reached a private, undisclosed financial settlement.
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
Nice try, but it's far too little too late.
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Didn't break any rules. You asked me for proof after we just discussed the exact definition of what "proof" meant. And accusing the opposing side in an argument of blackmailing you is not a joke. An hour or so ago you edited the thread's first post to say:
People reading this thread can figure out for themselves whether you revealing my personal information against my expressed wishes was a good move or not. I , personally, think it hurts the credibility of the supposedly trustworthy adminship I heard so much about when you were trying to get me to agree to the IP check. To me it appears you got angry, knew I was lying because you already checked, and used my post out of context to make your point. This will make you popular amongst the extremist faithful here, this is good leadership skills, I understand that. But we both know what happened, Psy. Your convictions are not as strong as your desire to be proven right. But that's ok, it's typical of fornits, and to be expected. I expected this outcome, because I know how fornits really operates.
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"ha ha, this was a joke and you fell for it, ha ha".
It was a serious attempt to spread lies about others to cause harm. Now you can attempt to edit that post again and make this sound like a joke but anybody who reads the thread, especially a condensed version pointing to certain key points in the thread, will know the truth about you.
Who did I spread lies about? A fictitious personality that doesn't exist? This thread has a valid point, real people have been blackmailed here, and this thread was authored in a tongue in cheek manor familiar to anybody who reads my posts. Go ahead and link to this thread after all my posts, or post it in your signature like Whooter's stalker does. Your questioning my credibility doesn't faze me. i will continue to post my opinions, and post threads I want to until you finally make up an excuse to ban me. I'm sure that isn't that far off in the future, right? What will it be, spam? It's been fun Psy, good detective work. But I am disappointed you didn't uphold the convictions of keeping my IP info private as I asked. Apparently free speech is not as important as winning an argument for you, shame.
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I have decided to allow SUCKED IT to post here because we have reached a private, undisclosed financial settlement.
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
Nice try, but it's far too little too late.
It's called a joke. Like this entire thread? Of course, some people have no sense of humor and turn everything into a political battle. I am right! You are wrong! Don't you extremist cult freaks get bored with that eventually?
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Not to mention that posterX suddenly appeared out of nowhere just as this troll was getting extra-special owned, at early AM in the US.
Yeah, might as well pack it in at this point. But he'll probably just keep on posting more bullshit.
Time to go back to your WWASPS-approved dog cage.
(http://http://www.caica.org/STARTLING%20FACTS_files/image008.jpg)
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200 posts in 48 hours.Lots of action for a total load of bullshit, don't you think?
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Recognize this?
(http://http://www.wwaspinfo.com/images/hobbit.jpg)
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Not to mention that posterX suddenly appeared out of nowhere just as this troll was getting extra-special owned, at early AM in the US.
Yeah, might as well pack it in at this point. But he'll probably just keep on posting more bullshit.
Time to go back to your WWASPS-approved dog cage.
(http://http://www.caica.org/STARTLING%20FACTS_files/image008.jpg)
I am postrerX. There is no need to continue speculating. Psy was right all along. To be honest, I got bored with this thread a long time ago, but once Psy got involved and was pressuring me to reveal IP I knew how this would end if I kept up a bold face lie, unprovable using any technique other than an admin breaking their own principles. Psy knew I was lying, I knew he knew I was lying, and it was only a matter of time until he felt the urge to prove me wrong. It's very clear in my posts I was not authorizing the release of my IP infomration. Yet he did it anyways, quotes me completely out of context, and chalks up another win. But really, fornits loses tonight. It loses the credibility necessary for you to get parents or people with opinions like mine to trust posting here. I already know fornits operates like this, I expected this much. But some posters might actually be naive enough to believe it when Psy says "trust me" like he did several pages ago when attempting to convince me to "prove myself innocent".
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It was a serious attempt to spread lies about others to cause harm. Now you can attempt to edit that post again and make this sound like a joke but anybody who reads the thread, especially a condensed version pointing to certain key points in the thread, will know the truth about you.
Who did I spread lies about?
The safety of the forum itself:
This thread documents the failed attempt to blackmail me into silence. This is a common occurrence on this forum, beware releasing personal information to people here, say the wrong thing, and that info might be used against you.
You manufactured evidence to try and make it seem like it's somehow dangerous to post here, as if blackmail is a common occurrence when in reality I can't recall a single time it's ever happened here. Of course you knew that so you had to make shit up.
But I am disappointed you didn't uphold the convictions of keeping my IP info private as I asked.
No. You were already seen as a liar so you thought you'd try and make yourself a martyr by giving me an excuse to post proof you are PosterX (after which you would claim you didn't really mean it). Why else would you post "Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting."? You even admitted it was your motive after the fact, stating "I was hoping for this precise outcome". You KNEW I would never tie your identity to PosterX unless you permitted me to do so, so you did... Your admitted intent, combined with the words, only justifies my action. You wanted me to do it and asked me to do it. That's consent.
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once Psy got involved and was pressuring me to reveal IP
Go back through my posts. You won't find one post by me where I ask you to consent. I merely argued the potential benefits in a single post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30972&start=165#p375166) only after others first made the suggestion.
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as if blackmail is a common occurrence when in reality I can't recall a single time it's ever happened here.
Ooh! I can! Although it's not blackmail in the legal sense at all.
Trying to prove that Fornits isn't a safe place for program parents and staff is like trying to prove salt dissolves in water; um, no shit, Sherlock? Those people shouldn't be safe anywhere, let alone Fornits. Of course someone's going to fucking dox/ruin/etc them given a chance. Fornits is chock-full of the abused, the vengeful, and the hate-filled, of which your precious programs are usually the cause. It's been like that since day one. Why would you expect anything else?
Instead of going through so much bullshit, maybe you should have just asked the locals: "Is Fornits a safe place for parents who are about to place, are currently placing, or have placed them in a program?" We would have given you a straight answer. While laughing.
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You manufactured evidence to try and make it seem like it's somehow dangerous to post here, as if blackmail is a common occurrence when in reality I can't recall a single time it's ever happened here. If course you knew that so you had to make shit up.
Manufactured evidence? What is this Night Court or something? I wasn't aware that tongue in cheek, satire posts were not allowed. A certain family comes to mind. Don't send your daughter to a program, or we'll publish a humiliating page with all your personal details. Does that sound familiar to anybody around here? Huh, Psy must of just missed that whole drama, I guess. What about all the threats against Whooter? Conveniently forgotten, like it never even happened.
No. You were already seen as a liar so you thought you'd try and make yourself a martyr by giving me an excuse to post proof you are PosterX (after which you would claim you didn't really mean it). Why else would you post "Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting."? You even admitted it was your motive after the fact, stating "I was hoping for this precise outcome". You KNEW I would never tie your identity to PosterX unless you permitted me to do so, so you did... Your admitted intent, combined with the words, only justifies my action. You wanted me to do it. That's consent.
You know that's not true. But if it helps retain your credibility amongst the forum faithful, I understand why you need to hold up the pretense. Or maybe you actually believe your own bullshit? Who knows.
Here is the post in which you claim I authorized my IP information be released:
People would still disagree with your opinions about programs but at least they would consider you a little more honest.
I think you are wrong about this. I think that people would realize that two posters having different IP addresses doesn't really prove anything, and continue to hurl the same theory indefinitely.
Well. Right now it's not just the opinions of the "extremists" to worry about. I assume you post here to speak to more than just them. Right now, as it stands, there is very strong evidence that you are a liar and you attempted to frame the other side of the arguent to make them look bad. That damages your credibility on all sides.
I speak to whoever wants to read what I write. I am not going to work hard to answer every little nitpicking question someone throws my way just because they question my credibility.
I haven't heard a peep out of Whooter or Danny Benisson recently. Even they frown on what you've done.
Oh no. Perhaps that's why they didn't pick up the phone for our regularly scheduled nightly phone chat? We were all planning on a weekend cruise this weekend to discuss fornits strategy and planning, I hope I didn't ruin things with them, I was really excited about that.
At least if you did ask me to prove you innocent, you could regain some honor in their eyes, or the eyes of the parents you likely speak to.
You are a good manipulator, I'll give you that much credit. But me and posterX having different IP does not "prove me innocent", and you know that Psy. It only proves that I use dial up, know how to change my IP address, or any number of possibilities other than the truth that I am not them. You know this, but are using this credibility angle to try to get me to allow you to find out more information about me. It won't work, sorry.
Like iJust said, the only reason you wouldn't do this is because you are in fact PosterX and fabricated this whole blackmail story.
I've explained in detail why I refuse to pull my pants down on command in front of the enraged mob here. I can't believe you actually can say something like "prove your innocent" with a straight face, this is America, innocent until proven guilty. This sounds more like a commie court room, or is it a cult group think session?
As it stands know, you're refusal to defend yourself or back up your allegations is more than enough proof anybody needs to show you a liar. You're right in the sense that you lose no matter what you do. You are PosterX. It's not a conspiracy theory. You were caught. You might as well give up now because any time you post in a thread, i'm going to make sure to post a link to this thread along with a detailed walkthrough as to exactly how you are a liar and what depths you were willing to sink to. You cried wolf, and nobody will ever believe you again. At this point I don't even believe you were in a program (at least not as a detainee/client/student/whatever).
Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting. That's right, it's just a guess, a theory of yours. I know you desperately need to convince your cult followers that you're right. But you picked a losing battle here, because all you have is more conspiracy theories and assumptions. If you think linking to a 200 post thread to people helps your position, go right ahead, see if it helps. My posts and opinions speak for themselves, I don't need to stalk other posters trying to discredit them. You can act just like the people obsessed with Whooter, who make elaborate conspiracy threads quoting him dishonestly and trying to discredit him. You think anybody other than the extremist regulars read that crap? Feel free to waste your time as Whooter's stalkers do, it doesn't bother me in the least. I'll continue to post here, and share my opinions and experiences. I went through a treatment program with its own forum here, and I earned my right to my opinions. I will not be bullied into revealing more personal information about myself, or into silence by anyone, even the leader of the cult with a special red name.
In large letters is where you claimed, now that was pre-IP check, that you knew I was posterX for a fact. You said it with certainty, and said I was caught. Well that wasn't true, so I asked you for proof of how you came to that conclusion. You didn't provide it, you just went ahead and checked my IP, against my wishes, as indicated three times in bold. How had I been caught before your IP screen shot image? How were you so certain I was posterX? At that point, it was only a guess, only a theory, if you were being honest about having not checked IP. But you already had checked, right? So you knew I was lying, and decided to use a few words out of context from my post as an excuse to go against my wishes, and check my IP info to make your point. I know some people here will fall for this type of charade, Psy, but many people are smarter than you think. Your credibility was hurt just as much, or possibly more than my own tonight. But then again, I chose the username SUCK IT so I'm not overly concerned with what people think about me. You , on the other hand, are the supposedly "trustworthy" admin capable of playing referee to anyone "ask Whooter", you said to me. Well I insisted you were not trustworthy in earlier posts, you have only confirmed this much. People can read this thread and see the posts in context and how you reacted, and come to their own conclusions. They don't need me to explain it to them, the truth is plain to see. What a sad day for fornits leadership, but I have to say I'm not surprised at all.
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once Psy got involved and was pressuring me to reveal IP
Go back through my posts. You won't find one post by me where I ask you to consent. I merely argued the potential benefits in a single post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30972&start=165#p375166) only after others first made the suggestion.
You posted my IP information against my wishes tonight. People should know this is how fornits admins operate, especially when they claim to be trustworthy referees. You know what happened tonight, it's sad to see your principles are not as important as winning an argument and proving somebody wrong. In the scheme of things, this thread is meaningless. But trust in fornits admins being breached will have long term effects on this forum, and whether people trust posting here or not. You, ironically, made the most important point of this entire thread by your actions tonight. Trust fornits admins at your own peril.
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Instead of going through so much bullshit, maybe you should have just asked the locals: "Is Fornits a safe place for parents who are about to place, are currently placing, or have placed them in a program?" We would have given you a straight answer. While laughing.
It is a safe place for parents to ask question about programs. It's not a safe place, nor is any other, to release personal information. Where he lied flat out was about the blackmail bit.
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once Psy got involved and was pressuring me to reveal IP
Go back through my posts. You won't find one post by me where I ask you to consent. I merely argued the potential benefits in a single post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30972&start=165#p375166) only after others first made the suggestion.
You posted my IP information against my wishes tonight.
Appeal to Ginger. There is oversight here. I can get in trouble, even "fired", as other admins have been in the past for breaking the rules. I think she'll agree, however, that you did consent. It was your stated intent for me to post proof you were PosterX and you flat out asked me to do it. The "letter of the law" is clear here, as is the spirit.
The whole thing really boils down to this: Did you, or did you not want me to post proof you were poster X? "ha, ha, I wanted you to do that" doesn't really help your case.
I for one am done with you. You've been exposed as a liar. I seriously doubt you were even in a program (at least as a kid). Maybe you were staff, perhaps but given the fact that you're somewhat literate I'm leaning more towards parent or program executive.
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once Psy got involved and was pressuring me to reveal IP
Go back through my posts. You won't find one post by me where I ask you to consent. I merely argued the potential benefits in a single post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30972&start=165#p375166) only after others first made the suggestion.
You posted my IP information against my wishes tonight.
Appeal to Ginger. There is oversight here. I think she'll agree, however, that you did consent. It was your stated intent for me to post proof you were PosterX and you flat out asked me to do it. The "letter of the law" is clear here, as is the spirit.
I for one am done with you. You've been exposed as a liar. I seriously doubt you were even in a program (at least as a kid). Maybe you were staff, perhaps but given the fact that your'e somewhat literate I'm leaning more towards parent or program executive.
I'm not going to go crying to the cult leader, we both know what happened here Psy. It's clear in context I was asking for proof of how you were so certain I was posterX, before you ever checked my IP, you were claiming then that "I had been caught". You knew that, because I posted three times in the same post of my wishes for my personal information to remain private. Not to mention the many other posts earlier tonight in which I made this clear. I did not hope for you to post my personal IP information, but I did expect it, and it didn't really surprise me. I know how this place really operates, despite the open free for all rhetoric. Your actions simply illuminate this fact for everybody to see, and will better help them decide whether to trust the admins here or not.
You think you scored a win by exposing me as a liar, well I think most people were smart enough to know this thread was a little over the top suspicious, and most likely tongue in cheek satire. You took it upon yourself to prove this to everyone by going against my wishes, and revealing information about my IP that I specifically wanted to remain private. In doing so you broke your own privacy policy, thus eroding the credibility of this forum even further.
You have a lukewarm, barely plausible out of context quote, excuse for what you've done, and you are now going to cling to that despite the obvious fact it's not true. That's fine, Psy. People can go back and read this thread and see what really happened. Or they can just keep believing in the myth of the almighty trustworthy admin, and applaud the slaying of the pro treatment dragon. But know this. I'm not going anywhere. I went through a treatment program with its own forum here, and have earned a right to my opinions, and will continue to post here for some time to come. All the haters can SUCK IT.
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Your personal information hasn't been posted, jackass.
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Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting.
SUCK PENIS why on gods earth would you tell an admin to "post your proof?" Were you smoking horse shit joints tonight? Call your friend, tell him to bring a camcorder, instruct him to record you driving off a cliff and play the video on youtube. WOW!!!
:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
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SUCK PENIS why on gods earth would you tell an admin to "post your proof?" Were you smoking horse shit joints tonight? Call your friend, tell him to bring a camcorder, instruct him to record you driving off a cliff and play the video on youtube. WOW!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Your plan is doubly flawed; Youtube deletes suicide videos, and he doesn't have any friends.
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Fornits never has been welcoming to program parents. Go figure, that's nothing new, and I don't see why it is suddenly a big deal or anything. The entire reason for the Facility Q/A section was for parents to have a moderated place to post. It worked pretty well for that back in the day. I remember we convert Charly from her pro-program ways using that forum.
She went from being a major kool-aid swilling programmie to a woman who offered her legal services to me free of charge when I needed them. That's class on her part, love her to death for that.
I kind of miss the interviews and questions and answers of the F/QA. I think I might petition ginger to let me have it back. Lot of good information came out of those threads that showed some really sick shit about programs.
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Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting.
Ok then. Good choice. I'm glad you came to your senses and decided to let me check. Aha. Seems everybody was right. You are most definitely PosterX. Proof attached. It's a screenshot of the post info for your above post. I've blurred out your IP (not a dialup ISP) and your (many) other usernames.
Of course we all knew SUCK IT was a troll from the beginning, but now we see 10 or so usernames this a-hole has been using to disseminate false information.
PSY, Whooter asked you some time ago to post his usernames as well. While you're at it, we'd like to see you take up Whooter's request and reveal all of his usernames. I also consented to have you do the same for me. Would you kindly honor his request? It will only take you a minute.
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Post your proof I'm posterX, I'm waiting.
Ok then. Good choice. I'm glad you came to your senses and decided to let me check. Aha. Seems everybody was right. You are most definitely PosterX. Proof attached. It's a screenshot of the post info for your above post. I've blurred out your IP (not a dialup ISP) and your (many) other usernames.
Of course we all knew SUCK IT was a troll from the beginning, but now we see 10 or so usernames this a-hole has been using to disseminate false information.
PSY, Whooter asked you some time ago to post his usernames as well. While you're at it, we'd like to see you take up Whooter's request and reveal all of his usernames. I also consented to have you do the same for me. Would you kindly honor his request? It will only take you a minute.
Psy, what DJ meant was to have "all his guest posts tied to his user name". I have had this done in the past. After this is done then you can string my posts together also.
Dysfunction Junction always ran away from this request in the past and I can see he is trying to sidestep it again. I wonder what he has to hide? I have always been open to it.
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No, I said what I meant. Are you cowering away from your request to have your multiple usernames tied together now?
I have been open all along and have had my user-names exposed and all my guest posts strung together and tied to my user names every time I was asked.
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You keep sayin' that, but somehow you never actually do it. :rofl: I believe you had it done one time and that's where all these quotes I am posting came from. That was five years ago. You have A LOT of anon posts and usernames since then that you seem to want to keep secret.
Another option is to ask fornits admins to list out our user names (and string together past anon posts)and post them publicly. I have done this upon request a few times before and am willing to do it again, if it interests you (I have nothing to hide).
Why, yes, it does interest me. Please have it done right away, as you just offered to do. I'll be glad to see the results straight away.
That was several days ago and you keep repeating it. Still waiting...
You keep saying you're open and you're glad to do it, but it never happens, does it? I guess it's you that is "tucking tail and running" huh? Git 'er done, boy! Unless of course you're fibbing about that too! :deal: :jamin:
Now that's two items that won't go away (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=23299&p=283976&hilit=+fiduciary#p283976), but I have time, and so I will wait for you to deliver what you said you would. You volunteered, so put up or shut up.
Nothing to hide you said. Let's get it done. Right now.
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Attaching all usernames to a single account is a post by post task. My telling PosterX it was possible was a bluff. I'm not going to go through hundreds and hundreds of posts and change them one by one. I can, however, reveal all your usernames both of you have used quite easily if that is a suitable alternative.
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Attaching all usernames to a single account is a post by post task. My telling PosterX it was possible was a bluff. I'm not going to go through hundreds and hundreds of posts and change them one by one. I can, however, reveal all your usernames both of you have used quite easily if that is a suitable alternative.
Fine with me. Let's roll on it.
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Attaching all usernames to a single account is a post by post task. My telling PosterX it was possible was a bluff. I'm not going to go through hundreds and hundreds of posts and change them one by one. I can, however, reveal all your usernames both of you have used quite easily if that is a suitable alternative.
Fine with me. Let's roll on it.
if whooter is ok with that.
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Attaching all usernames to a single account is a post by post task. My telling PosterX it was possible was a bluff. I'm not going to go through hundreds and hundreds of posts and change them one by one. I can, however, reveal all your usernames both of you have used quite easily if that is a suitable alternative.
Fine with me. Let's roll on it.
if whooter is ok with that.
Another option is to ask fornits admins to list out our user names (and string together past anon posts)and post them publicly. I have done this upon request a few times before and am willing to do it again, if it interests you (I have nothing to hide).
Already consented previously. In fact, he requested it. Let's git 'er done.
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Let's go, Whooter. Put up or shut up time. Let's get those usernames out there as you requested.
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I have the feeling this is going to end badly.
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Attaching all usernames to a single account is a post by post task. My telling PosterX it was possible was a bluff. I'm not going to go through hundreds and hundreds of posts and change them one by one. I can, however, reveal all your usernames both of you have used quite easily if that is a suitable alternative.
No, we agreed to have our anon posts revealed, Psy, and tied to our user name.
Can you not run a query to isolate all user names under their IP (s) and then run another query listing all posts under those IP numbers.
Then simply run an "update query" replacing the username (Field) "Guest" with "Dysfunction Junction". I am sure you can do this using an "msaccess tool" or SQL. Do you know how to do this? Are you familiar with databases or writing queries.
I dont know your expertise not poking fun.
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I have the feeling this is going to end badly.
Whooter's bluffing. He's desperate to keep his aliases secret. Now that his bluff has been called, he disappears. He always runs away when it's time to get it done. Then he comes back a few weeks later and accuses me of "running away." He's a tool.
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What psy did to Suck It ought to show who has posted what under what IP addresses, anon posts included.
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Psy says it's a time-consuming task and I take his word for it. He did, however, agree to post all of Whooter's usernames and mine as well. Whooter accuses me daily of having multiple logins and now is his chanced to prove his case. Notice how he vanishes when the rubber meets the road. Very telling behavior from this phony liar.
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Attaching all usernames to a single account is a post by post task. My telling PosterX it was possible was a bluff. I'm not going to go through hundreds and hundreds of posts and change them one by one. I can, however, reveal all your usernames both of you have used quite easily if that is a suitable alternative.
Psy, This code can be used with phpBB Group. You can update an entire row in a table.
Just Run a query listing all of the IPs used under "Dysfunction Junction or Whooter
Then take those IP numbers and run a query listing "all" the posts used under those IP numbers and then use the following "Update Query" (array) to update the entire table to "Dysfunction Junction" or "Whooter".
$sql_ary = array(
'somedata' => $my_string,
'otherdata' => $an_int,
'moredata' => $another_int
);
$sql = 'UPDATE ' . SOME_TABLE . '
SET ' . $db->sql_build_array('UPDATE', $sql_ary) . '
WHERE user_id = ' . (int) $user_id;
$db->sql_query($sql);
We do this all the time, psy. There is no way that IT people sit there and update databases one line at a time or they would be fired. There are plenty of tools available. Maybe Ginger knows SQL? or Phpbb Group has a proprietary tool?
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So let's start with those usernames first while Psy works on your other request. Or are you too phony to allow it? I can guess how this will go. Now it's time to do what you yourself requested and you're going to bail out and run as usual. Your refusal to do what you requested just shows you're a lying, phony coward. I'll archive your refusal, Mr. Phony.
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Attaching all usernames to a single account is a post by post task. My telling PosterX it was possible was a bluff. I'm not going to go through hundreds and hundreds of posts and change them one by one. I can, however, reveal all your usernames both of you have used quite easily if that is a suitable alternative.
Fine with me. Let's roll on it.
if whooter is ok with that.
Another option is to ask fornits admins to list out our user names (and string together past anon posts)and post them publicly. I have done this upon request a few times before and [size]am willing to do it again, if it interests you (I have nothing to hide). [/size]
Already consented previously. In fact, he requested it. Let's git 'er done.
C'mon, Psy. Whooter already EXPLICITLY asked for you to do this. Why are we not proceeding now? Did he PM you and tell you not to do it while he pretends out here in public that he will? He said he has nothing to hide and he is willing to do it. Let's go, man.
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My guess is right about now SUCK IT is going back to delete all his posts, one by one. Too bad most of them are quoted or screenshot.
If not you should lock them, to prevent editing!
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But really, fornits loses tonight. It loses the credibility necessary for you to get parents or people with opinions like mine to trust posting here. I already know fornits operates like this, I expected this much. But some posters might actually be naive enough to believe it when Psy says "trust me" like he did several pages ago when attempting to convince me to "prove myself innocent".
Well not really, because most people aren't interested in playing sock puppet games like the ones you got busted for playing. Fornits is a safe enough place to post, and I think most people will realize that....Sorry, but the only loser here is yourself. :seg:
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So let's start with those usernames first while Psy works on your other request. Or are you too phony to allow it? I can guess how this will go. Now it's time to do what you yourself requested and you're going to bail out and run as usual. Your refusal to do what you requested just shows you're a lying, phony coward. I'll archive your refusal, Mr. Phony.
Its quicker to do it all at once in one array. It would be a waste of time to have to build the queries twice. We agreed to have all our posts strung together to our user name. Lets stay with our agreement, unless you have concerns.
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I have the feeling this is going to end badly.
Whooter's bluffing. He's desperate to keep his aliases secret. Now that his bluff has been called, he disappears. He always runs away when it's time to get it done. Then he comes back a few weeks later and accuses me of "running away." He's a tool.
Hmm.. perhaps Whooter was posting as SUCK IT after all?
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Froddy,
You are one to cry foul about sock puppetry games.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Froddy,
You are one to cry foul about sock puppetry games.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:seg: Yeah I know... but my puppets were always in good fun, don'tcha know.
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Good thing my memory is shit, I'd be listing them all.
Damn it, can't remember half of them anymore. Lucky you I guess.
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So here's the chicken-out. You know Psy won't do this so you keep asking him to do it as a way of avoiding having your usernames exposed. you're a transparent phony, Whooter. No way around that now. "I have nothing to hide" my ass. you have everything to hide and you will never do what you said you would because you're a liar, plain and simple. This exchange proves it beyond doubt.
If you have nothing to hide, let Psy do what he said he would. Then lobby for the rest. You accuse me daily of having "multiple logins" but when it's time to find out the truth you poop your pants and cower in fear.
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This thread documents the process of how an admin of fornits breaks their own rules. Your IP information is supposed to be kept secret here. My IP information was released against my wishes, and used against me all because I harbor opinions contrary to the acceptable group think. I hope you read through this thread up until post 200 and see the process of how an admin will compromise their principles in order to win an argument. It's an interesting thread, enjoy.
go fuck yourself
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Good thing my memory is shit, I'd be listing them all.
Damn it, can't remember half of them anymore. Lucky you I guess.
Well you are also one to talk about the art of sock puppetry, eh, Gookie? :D
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So here's the chicken-out. You know Psy won't do this so you keep asking him to do it as a way of avoiding having your usernames exposed. you're a transparent phony, Whooter. No way around that now. "I have nothing to hide" my ass. you have everything to hide and you will never do what you said you would because you're a liar, plain and simple. This exchange proves it beyond doubt.
If you have nothing to hide, let Psy do what he said he would. Then lobby for the rest. You accuse me daily of having "multiple logins" but when it's time to find out the truth you poop your pants and cower in fear.
Look, what are you afraid of, DJ? Lets do what we both agreed to do. Once Psy sets the code he can do it all at once.
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I'm not afraid of anything as I have said many, many times. You won't let Psy do it because you're afraid to get exposed. That's why you refuse to let him proceed. You're phony. You're a liar. You're afraid to be exposed.
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Good thing my memory is shit, I'd be listing them all.
Damn it, can't remember half of them anymore. Lucky you I guess.
I remember a couple. You had us all going pretty good for awhile with a few of them, "Three springs wagookin". lol. The best was when you got wasted and wiped out about 900 of my posts and changed my Avatar to a NAMBLA symbol with an interesting footer. Do you remember that? You were an admin then I think.
See that shit is in good fun and isnt meant to hurt anyone.
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Chicken-shit Whooter tries again to change the subject from his refusal to do what he requested. He PMed Psy and told him not to do it just so he could keep saying it here. He's a phony.
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Still waiting, Mr. Nothing To Hide. Let's go. Get those usernames posted. We're all waiting and watching your cowardice on display along with your phoniness.
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I'm not afraid of anything as I have said many, many times. ....
Then why do you keep a loaded gun under your bed at night? lol.
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Good thing my memory is shit, I'd be listing them all.
Damn it, can't remember half of them anymore. Lucky you I guess.
I remember a couple. You had us all going pretty good for awhile with a few of them, "Three springs wagookin". lol. The best was when you got wasted and wiped out about 900 of my posts and changed my Avatar to a NAMBLA symbol with an interesting footer. Do you remember that? You were an admin then I think.
See that shit is in good fun and isnt meant to hurt anyone.
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Yep, that was me, yep i was an admin.. and yep that was pretty damn funny.
Better yet was the guy who Nambla and it came up with your forum name due to the Nambla user title under your avatar.
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Whooter is still refusing to get his usernames posted. I bet it's because his is listed under SUCK IT's also. In any case, he's scared to death to have it done after he already agreed to it before. When it was time to "pull the trigger" he crapped himself and ran away. What a phony liar.
No, I said what I meant. Are you cowering away from your request to have your multiple usernames tied together now?
I have been open all along and have had my user-names exposed and all my guest posts strung together and tied to my user names every time I was asked.
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You keep sayin' that, but somehow you never actually do it. :rofl: I believe you had it done one time and that's where all these quotes I am posting came from. That was five years ago. You have A LOT of anon posts and usernames since then that you seem to want to keep secret.
Another option is to ask fornits admins to list out our user names (and string together past anon posts)and post them publicly. I have done this upon request a few times before and am willing to do it again, if it interests you (I have nothing to hide).
Why, yes, it does interest me. Please have it done right away, as you just offered to do. I'll be glad to see the results straight away.
That was several days ago and you keep repeating it. Still waiting...
You keep saying you're open and you're glad to do it, but it never happens, does it? I guess it's you that is "tucking tail and running" huh? Git 'er done, boy! Unless of course you're fibbing about that too! :deal: :jamin:
Now that's two items that won't go away (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=23299&p=283976&hilit=+fiduciary#p283976), but I have time, and so I will wait for you to deliver what you said you would. You volunteered, so put up or shut up.
Nothing to hide you said. Let's get it done. Right now.
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I'm not afraid of anything as I have said many, many times. ....
Then why do you keep a loaded gun under your bed at night? lol.
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Wait, you don't keep a loaded gun under your bed? That's so strange.. given the news broadcasts and scandal rags i thought all Americans kept at least 4 guns under their bed.
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Whooter is still refusing to get his usernames posted. I bet it's because his is listed under SUCK IT's also. In any case, he's scared to death to have it done after he already agreed to it before. When it was time to "pull the trigger" he crapped himself and ran away. What a phony liar.
I dunno DJ, if it turns out the Whooter knows what he's talking about IT wise you might come up short on this one. No clue really on my end, all that IT shit is gibberish to me. I know a thing or two about the past present progressive though, enough to know I hate teaching it.
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Good thing my memory is shit, I'd be listing them all.
Damn it, can't remember half of them anymore. Lucky you I guess.
I remember a couple. You had us all going pretty good for awhile with a few of them, "Three springs wagookin". lol. The best was when you got wasted and wiped out about 900 of my posts and changed my Avatar to a NAMBLA symbol with an interesting footer. Do you remember that? You were an admin then I think.
See that shit is in good fun and isnt meant to hurt anyone.
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Yep, that was me, yep i was an admin.. and yep that was pretty damn funny.
Better yet was the guy who Nambla and it came up with your forum name due to the Nambla user title under your avatar.
I dont remember the name. do you remember the gilligans Island program we came up with where they ship wrecked the boat and the kids swam to shore, Mary Ann taught sex ed and smoked pot on the beach?
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Whooter isn't allowed to own guns because of his previous legal problems/incarcerations.
The bigger question is why is he such a coward and phony?
@Che - Psy already told him he'll do the usernames but not the posts. I don't care either way. But Whooter now is hiding behind Psy as usual. He's afraid to get his usernames public and be proven wrong since I have only one username and he has many, some of which will be very surprising to you (and others). He knows there's no way Psy will link his posts so he sets that as a condition for getting his usernames listed which Psy said he could do with a few clicks.
Personally, I have nothing whatsoever to worry about, but you can smell the fear coming from Whooter. No way he'll ever allow Psy to do it. He already PMed him telling him that. What he does out here is just for show.
He could just cop to his usernames, too. He won't even do it without Psy's intervention. He's hiding a lot he doesn't want anyone to know. It would be a real eye-opener. Some of the most vile and disgusting things ever posted here came right from Whooter, including quite a bit of nasty "scat porn" and the like. He's really twisted.
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Whooter isn't allowed to own guns because of his previous legal problems/incarcerations.
The bigger question is why is he such a coward and phony?
@Che - Psy already told him he'll do the usernames but not the posts. I don't care either way. But Whooter now is hiding behind Psy as usual. He's afraid to get his usernames public and be proven wrong since I have only one username and he has many, some of which will be very surprising to you (and others). He knows there's no way Psy will link his posts so he sets that as a condition for getting his usernames listed which Psy said he could do with a few clicks.
Personally, I have nothing whatsoever to worry about, but you can smell the fear coming from Whooter. No way he'll ever allow Psy to do it. He already PMed him telling him that. What he does out here is just for show.
Calm down DJ, we will get it done. I posted some code for Psy to look at. You are looking for my user names to be posted and in return I am asking for your guest posts to be tied to your user name.
It might take awhile just be patient.
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The coward chickens out. You said you had nothing to hide and would have your usernames posted if I did mine. It can be done in less that five minutes, but you're too worried about what it will show. You also agreed to have your guest posts linked up which now you're running from too.
Another option is to ask fornits admins to list out our user names (and string together past anon posts)and post them publicly. I have done this upon request a few times before and am willing to do it again, if it interests you (I have nothing to hide).
This is what you agreed to. Why are you chickening out now? Why are you trying to change the "agreement" you already broke? I think everyone sees you have a lot to hide.
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So whooter, if the code you provided doesn't work or Psy isn't sure of it will you go with DJs way?
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The coward chickens out. You said you had nothing to hide and would have your usernames posted if I did mine. It can be done in less that five minutes, but you're too worried about what it will show. You also agreed to have your guest posts linked up which now you're running from too.
lol..... What I said is we can get it all done at once, DJ. Stop your crying, you are stomping your feet like a little kid. You want to see my user names and I want to see your past guest postings tied to your user name.
We cant go to the park if it is raining out, grow up, lol. Have some patience and we will eventually get it done.
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So whooter, if the code you provided doesn't work or Psy isn't sure of it will you go with DJs way?
What would you do?
If we were both hungry and I asked you to make me a pizza and you asked me for a hamburger and I said the hamburger takes too long to make just make me my pizza. Would you make me a pizza and go without your lunch?
The fair thing to do is satisfy both of our requests even if it means DJ has to get caught up in his panties and throw a fit until we get it done.
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The coward chickens out. You said you had nothing to hide and would have your usernames posted if I did mine. It can be done in less that five minutes, but you're too worried about what it will show. You also agreed to have your guest posts linked up which now you're running from too.
Another option is to ask fornits admins to list out our user names (and string together past anon posts)and post them publicly. I have done this upon request a few times before and am willing to do it again, if it interests you (I have nothing to hide).
This is what you agreed to. Why are you chickening out now? Why are you trying to change the "agreement" you already broke? I think everyone sees you have a lot to hide.
Yes, we are waiting for confirmation that we can get your past anon posts strung together.
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Fine, but let's get done what we can in the meantime. Or are you just afraid to do it? I think we know the answer. In five minutes we can have all of the information about our usernames.
And YOUR past anon posts are part of the deal. You keep trying to omit that.
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So whooter, if the code you provided doesn't work or Psy isn't sure of it will you go with DJs way?
Che, he has no intention whatsoever of doing any of this. He already told Psy he won't. This is just for show only.
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Fine, but let's get done what we can in the meantime. Or are you just afraid to do it? I think we know the answer. In five minutes we can have all of the information about our usernames.
And YOUR past anon posts are part of the deal. You keep trying to omit that.
Yes both our past anon posts, both our usernames, thats correct. Give it some time, I am sure Psy is busy.
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Fine, but let's get done what we can in the meantime. Or are you just afraid to do it? I think we know the answer. In five minutes we can have all of the information about our usernames.
And YOUR past anon posts are part of the deal. You keep trying to omit that.
Yes both our past anon posts, both our usernames, thats correct. Give it some time, I am sure Psy is busy.
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Ok folks. Should be done. Seems to have worked:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10787&p=120262#p120262 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10787&p=120262#p120262)
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I just realized something
I ran:
UPDATE post_table
SET `poster_id` = (you guys' UIDs)
WHERE `poster_ip` LIKE '(you guys' IPs)'
when I should have run:
UPDATE post_table
SET `poster_id` = (you guys' UIDs)
WHERE `poster_ip` LIKE '(you guys' IPs)' AND `poster_id` = (guest UID)
Sorry you two, but what that means is that I accidentially tied all your posts from all your accounts including guest postings into your current account. Shit... Didn't get much sleep last night. Sorry bout that. Really stupid mistake on my part. Now Ursus is pissed at me because he bought those old posts in the auction so i'd appreciate it, Whooter, if you didn't edit them. You did sell them to him fair and square. Shit.
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Well this should keep the kids busy for a while, searching through all of whooters posts right now, looking for anything to discredit him. I'm sure they'll sleep well tonight!
Overall I think this thread was a success. People got to air out their angry feelings towards me, hopefully this helped them a bit, and and we also learned Whooter is a computer genius, who would of thought that? Now the conspiracy theory about me being Whooter can finally be put to bed once and for all. People are also aware that admins will post your IP info if you get out of line, that's a good lesson for people hoping to keep their information private.
Feel free to continue to post in this thread, from this point on I'm going to open up the discussion for whatever people want to talk about. Consider this thread an open free for all from this point on. Just be careful what you say, an admin might quote you out of context and run your IP and post things about you!
My favorite quote of this thread so far "ask me to prove your innocence", that''s one for the fornits hall of shame.
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My favorite quote of this thread so far "ask me to prove your innocence", that''s one for the fornits hall of shame.
:waaaa: You got busted. :waaaa:
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My favorite quote of this thread so far "ask me to prove your innocence", that''s one for the fornits hall of shame.
:waaaa: You got busted. :waaaa:
I'm sure you'll get over this thread eventually, give it time.
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My favorite quote of this thread so far "ask me to prove your innocence", that''s one for the fornits hall of shame.
:waaaa: You got busted. :waaaa:
I'm sure you'll get over this thread eventually, give it time.
That was supposed to YOU crying. ::)
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I'm pleased with the way this thread turned out, I really am. Everything happens for a reason, there are no accidents.
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I just realized something
I ran:
UPDATE post_table
SET `poster_id` = (you guys' UIDs)
WHERE `poster_ip` LIKE '(you guys' IPs)'
when I should have run:
UPDATE post_table
SET `poster_id` = (you guys' UIDs)
WHERE `poster_ip` LIKE '(you guys' IPs)' AND `poster_id` = (guest UID)
Sorry you two, but what that means is that I accidentially tied all your posts from all your accounts including guest postings into your current account. Shit... Didn't get much sleep last night. Sorry bout that. Really stupid mistake on my part. Now Ursus is pissed at me because he bought those old posts in the auction so i'd appreciate it, Whooter, if you didn't edit them. You did sell them to him fair and square. Shit.
No harm no foul, thanks for the time and effort, psy. We were pushing you hard. In a round about way it accomplishes what we wanted. Most everyone knows that I was TheWho at one Point.
To be fair to Ursus you could put a block on edits for my account starting in 2009 or any point really going back, if this can be accomplished. If this cannot be done then I agree that Ursus needs some compensation of some type and I will take responsibility for that.
I could close Whooter today and hand it over to him and I will start a new account if that is fair.
Let me know what I can do. I know what it is like to not get sleep and then run an "update query" which is not reversible. I have done it myself a few times.
Let me know whats fair.
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I just realized something
I ran:
UPDATE post_table
SET `poster_id` = (you guys' UIDs)
WHERE `poster_ip` LIKE '(you guys' IPs)'
when I should have run:
UPDATE post_table
SET `poster_id` = (you guys' UIDs)
WHERE `poster_ip` LIKE '(you guys' IPs)' AND `poster_id` = (guest UID)
Sorry you two, but what that means is that I accidentially tied all your posts from all your accounts including guest postings into your current account. Shit... Didn't get much sleep last night. Sorry bout that. Really stupid mistake on my part. Now Ursus is pissed at me because he bought those old posts in the auction so i'd appreciate it, Whooter, if you didn't edit them. You did sell them to him fair and square. Shit.
No harm no foul, thanks for the time and effort, psy. We were pushing you hard. In a round about way it accomplishes what we wanted. Most everyone knows that I was TheWho at one Point.
To be fair to Ursus you could put a block on edits for my account starting in 2009 or any point really going back, if this can be accomplished. If this cannot be done then I agree that Ursus needs some compensation of some type and I will take responsibility for that.
Already locked. I'm going to unlock now moving forward. Sorry.
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You should be good. Old posts have been returned to TheWho account. Should all be fixed now.
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So who is next to pull their pants down for the admin to check whether you are a boy or girl? Froderik seems awfully upset that I have another username besides this one, I bet he's anxious to prove to everybody on fornits he doesn't post using any other usernames. He has been publicly accused now, so the only logical way to "prove his innocence" is to ask Psy to release his IP information. Step right up! Get in line! Let the boy wonder admin pull your digital pants down and check, it's the only way to be sure!
:roflmao: :moon:
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Well, my posts count went up by about 20. 20 anon posts in five years. Whooter's went up by over 400 in just one thread! This guy is busy now cleaning up his history. Too funny! Soon as his posts get linked up he disappears. Gotta love it.
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So who is next to pull their pants down for the admin to check whether you are a boy or girl? Froderik seems awfully upset that I have another username besides this one, I bet he's anxious to prove to everybody on fornits he doesn't post using any other usernames. He has been publicly accused now, so the only logical way to "prove his innocence" is to ask Psy to release his IP information. Step right up! Get in line! Let the boy wonder admin pull your digital pants down and check, it's the only way to be sure!
:roflmao: :moon:
If this were to happen to me (I still don't get exactly why gookie told me he'd list my other ones if he could remember them, for he's guilty of his own acts of puppetry, lol), I wouldn't care. My "puppets" were always in good fun. Your puppetry escapade obviously had malicious intentions (or will you deny those intentions like you deny everything else that is true about you?)
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If this were to happen to me (I still don't get exactly why gookie told me he'd list my other ones if he could remember them, for he's guilty of his own acts of puppetry, lol), I wouldn't care. My "puppets" were always in good fun. Your puppetry escapade obviously had malicious intentions (or will you deny those intentions like you deny everything else that is true about you?)
Oh, scary. This thread had "malicious intentions", that sounds like a bad horror movie title. Will all the people I maliciously hurt ever get over it? If not, I'm willing to pay for therapy due to their PTSD from this thread.
But, wait! All of your other usernames are in "good fun"! Well you could easily prove that by asking Psy to pull your pants down and let us all know who else you post as. Go ahead and "prove your innocence", what do you have to hide?
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no, Suck It, Fro's aliases are not for subterfuge purposes. It's not a serious alias or one created to mislead. It is total satire and would be recognized immediately. It's like an Austin Powers type thing. Comedy only, and obviously so.
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Oh, scary. This thread had "malicious intentions", that sounds like a bad horror movie title. Will all the people I maliciously hurt ever get over it? If not, I'm willing to pay for therapy due to their PTSD from this thread.
But, wait! All of your other usernames are in "good fun"! Well you could easily prove that by asking Psy to pull your pants down and let us all know who else you post as. Go ahead and "prove your innocence", what do you have to hide?
So we're to take it that the whole blackmail thing was just your idea of fun?
Or you were on this trip of trying to prove that the "rules would be bent" to out you?
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no, Suck It, Fro's aliases are not for subterfuge purposes. It's not a serious alias or one created to mislead. It is total satire and would be recognized immediately. It's like an Austin Powers type thing. Comedy only, and obviously so.
How do you know? Do you know every username Froderik posts with other than his own? Doubtful. The only way to "prove his innocence" is to allow Psy to pull his digital pants down and take a look. The double standard here is hilarious to watch, and the explanations of why I am so malicious, and other people posts are only in good fun, is very funny to me. I had plenty of good fun in this thread.
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no, Suck It, Fro's aliases are not for subterfuge purposes. It's not a serious alias or one created to mislead. It is total satire and would be recognized immediately. It's like an Austin Powers type thing. Comedy only, and obviously so.
How do you know? Do you know every username Froderik posts with other than his own? Doubtful. The only way to "prove his innocence" is to allow Psy to pull his digital pants down and take a look. The double standard here is hilarious to watch, and the explanations of why I am so malicious, and other people posts are only in good fun, is very funny to me. I had plenty of good fun in this thread.
You're a tiresome little bitch, aren't you?
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So we're to take it that the whole blackmail thing was just your idea of fun?
Or you were on this trip of trying to prove that the "rules would be bent" to out you?
People can take whatever points they want from this thread, that's up to them. We are still waiting for you to "prove your innocence", until then I'm going to have to assume your a hypocrite.
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You're a tiresome little bitch, aren't you?
More name calling, how mature. The reservoir of hatred and anger here runs very deep.
How sad for all of you.
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You're a tiresome little bitch, aren't you?
More name calling, how mature. The reservoir of hatred and anger here runs very deep.
How sad for all of you.
Desperate little bitch.
There's a party in your mouth and everyone's coming! :roflmao:
:twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger:
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That's actually pretty funny! I do enjoy a good bout of homosexual humor, thanks for posting.
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Well, my posts count went up by about 20. 20 anon posts in five years. Whooter's went up by over 400 in just one thread! This guy is busy now cleaning up his history. Too funny! Soon as his posts get linked up he disappears. Gotta love it.
Actually you are wrong, my posts went up by about 10. If you look at all the John Ruben threads or any thread which tried to discredit me or troll me your name is on all of them. You have been obsessed with me for about 5 years now, DJ, look at your footer and all the threads you dedicated in my honor. No need to to say anything, the readers know. You had about 1,400 guest posts. Most of them were trolling me, as I suspected.
I had my posts locked from editing. Unlike you, DJ, I dont have anything to hide, that was the third time I had my posts laid out. If you want to compare edited posts just let me know. We can start with all the ones you edited to fabricate your education. I am comfortable with what I say.
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Ahh yes, the mark of a true psychopath: outrage and indignation at being caught. Ever watch those vids on TV where a criminal is found guilty and then explodes in fury, yelling insults at the judge and jury. Happens every day in courthouses around America. Believe me the prisons are full of SUCK ITs' who will angrily condemn their victims as just liars and the justice system as having railroaded them. Just watch those shows on TRUtv or MSNBC Lockup and you will gain valuable insight into the mind of people like this. No shame whatsoever.
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Well, my posts count went up by about 20. 20 anon posts in five years. Whooter's went up by over 400 in just one thread! This guy is busy now cleaning up his history. Too funny! Soon as his posts get linked up he disappears. Gotta love it.
Actually you are wrong, my posts went up by about 10. If you look at all the John Ruben threads or any thread which tried to discredit me or troll me your name is on all of them. You have been obsessed with me for about 5 years now, DJ, look at your footer and all the threads you dedicated in my honor. No need to to say anything, the readers know. You had about 1,400 guest posts. Most of them were trolling me, as I suspected.
I had my posts locked from editing. Unlike you, DJ, I dont have anything to hide, that was the third time I had my posts laid out. If you want to compare edited posts just let me know. We can start with all the ones you edited to fabricate your education. I am comfortable with what I say.
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No your posts went fro 835 in TheWho thread to over 1200 in just one thread!
I had 3500 posts this morning and 3500 now. Where are those missing "1400" posts?
Crybaby is upset at his exposure. I found 7 aliases so far as well. Not pretty phony-boy!
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Well, my posts count went up by about 20. 20 anon posts in five years. Whooter's went up by over 400 in just one thread! This guy is busy now cleaning up his history. Too funny! Soon as his posts get linked up he disappears. Gotta love it.
Actually you are wrong, my posts went up by about 10. If you look at all the John Ruben threads or any thread which tried to discredit me or troll me your name is on all of them. You have been obsessed with me for about 5 years now, DJ, look at your footer and all the threads you dedicated in my honor. No need to to say anything, the readers know. You had about 1,400 guest posts. Most of them were trolling me, as I suspected.
I had my posts locked from editing. Unlike you, DJ, I dont have anything to hide, that was the third time I had my posts laid out. If you want to compare edited posts just let me know. We can start with all the ones you edited to fabricate your education. I am comfortable with what I say.
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No your posts went fro 835 in TheWho thread to over 1200 in just one thread!
I had 3500 posts this morning and 3500 now. Where are those missing "1400" posts?
Crybaby is upset at his exposure. I found 7 aliases so far as well. Not pretty phony-boy!
Ha,Ha,Ha I can tell you are mad. You never thought my code I sent Psy would work. You got outed big time my friend. You are the king of all trolls. Look at the John Reuben attack threads alone. They went up by a few hundred. Then look at the old TheWho attack threads which were all written by... drum roll..... "Dysfunction junction"!!! You single handedly trolled me for years and it is all there in the database.
Sorry buddy but you asked for it...
Oh wait lets do the test again:
Everyone look at their footers.. okay? Which one of us is obsessed?
Whoops.. looks like it is you again DJ.
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I think DJ's committment to outing/owning and just generally kicking the ass of Whooter is pretty cool actually. If your gonna have an obsession then I would think that this one is worthy of the time and effort spent. Keep up the good work DJ.
(applause here)
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Wow, TheWho's account jumped from 4200 posts to OVER SEVEN THOUSAND! Over THREE THOUSAND ANON POSTS that he was vehemently denying! Ouch, phony-boy. You got hit HARD!
Whooter's anon posts got mostly put under "TheWho" which made up over three thousand more posts.
AsTheWho, Whooter has postsed an amazing 7257 times. That count was 4200 this morning. Over three thousand anon posts, Whooter. You are really, really obsessed. 7257 as TheWho and 2000 as Whooter makes you by far and away the most prolific troll on Fornits. Psy only has 5000 posts and he's an admin!
The funny thing is that the posts of TheWho had been linked to his account previously, so these 3,000 new posts by Whooter came in just the last year or so since he sold off his TheWho account. Best part? Since they were mistakenly moved under TheWho instead of Whooter, he can't even edit them. So now he's stuck with no way to get out of it. This is too funny!
Damn, Whooter. I guess we now know what you do all day and night. Holy schnikies!
For the record, my post count went from 3526 to 3540, a whopping 14 anon posts from five years of posting.
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Actually it hardly went up at all, DJ. I gave it over to Ursus and before that I had all my posts linked together. So it has been inactive. The Whooter account went up bu 10 to 12 posts. Caught in another lie.
But yours increased but well over a thousand. Anyone can take a look for themselves and see the John Rueben threads. all those guest posts were yours.. almost every one.
Ha,Ha,Ha I can tell you are mad. You never thought my code I sent Psy would work. You got outed big time my friend. You are the king of all trolls. Look at the John Reuben attack threads alone. They went up by a few hundred. Then look at the old TheWho attack threads which were all written by... drum roll..... "Dysfunction junction"!!! You single handedly trolled me for years and it is all there in the database.
Sorry buddy but you asked for it...
Oh wait lets do the test again:
Everyone look at their footers.. okay? Which one of us is obsessed?
Whoops.. looks like it is you again DJ.
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Mine increased "well over a thousand"? So 3540 - 3526 = over a thousand? Damn, Whooter, math is not your strong suit at all! If it went up by "more than a thousand" where are those posts, huh? Why did my daily average number of posts not change at all, huh? Crybaby took a beating and was shown to be the ultimate troll and phony with over 9,000 posts to his credit. Only Antigen has more.
For those of you wondering what happened here, Whooter claimed I made thousands of guest posts and had several aliases on Fornits. I challenged him to have all of our guest posts tied to our user accounts and he finally agreed after a month or two of badgering. Guess what the results were, folks...
Wow, TheWho's account jumped from 4200 posts to OVER SEVEN THOUSAND! Over THREE THOUSAND ANON POSTS that he was vehemently denying! Ouch, phony-boy. You got hit HARD!
Whooter's anon posts got mostly put under "TheWho" which made up over three thousand more posts.
AsTheWho, Whooter has postsed an amazing 7257 times. That count was 4200 this morning. Over three thousand anon posts, Whooter. You are really, really obsessed. 7257 as TheWho and 2000 as Whooter makes you by far and away the most prolific troll on Fornits. Psy only has 5000 posts and he's an admin!
The funny thing is that the posts of TheWho had been linked to his account previously, so these 3,000 new posts by Whooter came in just the last year or so since he sold off his TheWho account. Best part? Since they were mistakenly moved under TheWho instead of Whooter, he can't even edit them. So now he's stuck with no way to get out of it. This is too funny!
Damn, Whooter. I guess we now know what you do all day and night. Holy schnikies!
For the record, my post count went from 3526 to 3540, a whopping 14 anon posts from five years of posting.
Recap:
Me - 14 anon posts and no aliases
Whooter - over 3,000 anon posts and seven aliases and counting
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Actually it hardly went up at all, DJ. I gave it over to Ursus and before that I had all my posts linked together. So it has been inactive. The Whooter account went up bu 10 to 12 posts. Caught in another lie.
But yours increased but well over a thousand. Anyone can take a look for themselves and see the John Rueben threads. all those guest posts were yours.. almost every one.
Ha,Ha,Ha I can tell you are mad. You never thought my code I sent Psy would work. You got outed big time my friend. You are the king of all trolls. Look at the John Reuben attack threads alone. They went up by a few hundred. Then look at the old TheWho attack threads which were all written by... drum roll..... "Dysfunction junction"!!! You single handedly trolled me for years and it is all there in the database.
Sorry buddy but you asked for it...
Oh wait lets do the test again:
Everyone look at their footers.. okay? Which one of us is obsessed?
Whoops.. looks like it is you again DJ.
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So who is next to pull their pants down for the admin to check whether you are a boy or girl? Froderik seems awfully upset that I have another username besides this one, I bet he's anxious to prove to everybody on fornits he doesn't post using any other usernames. He has been publicly accused now, so the only logical way to "prove his innocence" is to ask Psy to release his IP information. Step right up! Get in line! Let the boy wonder admin pull your digital pants down and check, it's the only way to be sure!
:roflmao: :moon:
go fuck your digital self
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Sorry, DJ, you brought this on yourself. The posts are all strung together under your user name. Anyone can go back and see you single handedly trolled me for 5 years. You thought we would just do user names and we exposed all your trolling instead.....
Nothing you can do about it.
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When in doubt, spam-troll, Whooter. Lols. Just keep on posting your phony figures. 14 posts, buddy. My count went up by 14 posts. Your's went up over three thousand! And you can't edit them because they were mistakenly put under "TheWho" so only Ursus has access now. Awww... Burned again.
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When in doubt, spam-troll, Whooter. Lols. Just keep on posting your phony figures. 14 posts, buddy. My count went up by 14 posts. Your's went up over three thousand! And you can't edit them because they were mistakenly put under "TheWho" so only Ursus has access now. Awww... Burned again.
Yours went up well over a thousand DJ and there is nothing you can do about. You are the king of trolls. My posts stayed the same, maybe up 10 posts.
Lets do the test again:
Everyone look at their footers.. okay? which one is obsessed?
Any reader can go back and see who trolled the John Reuben thread for years.
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(his usual bullshit)
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When in doubt, spam-troll, Whooter. Lols. Just keep on posting your phony figures. 14 posts, buddy. My count went up by 14 posts. Your's went up over three thousand! And you can't edit them because they were mistakenly put under "TheWho" so only Ursus has access now. Awww... Burned again.
So you think the numbers are a mistake?
Hmmm...
Sorry, DJ, your post count cannot be changed back. Those 1,000 plus posts added to your account were all trolling TheWho and in the John Reuben threads. Go back and look at who started most of those.
I would have loved to have seen your face when psy said he would string your posts together. You brought it on yourself.
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Our friend DJ has been a little dishonest with the readers here. He states that the account TheWho has over 7,000 posts after the update by Psy. But if you look at the count under the Avatar it says 4,300 which means it didnt change at all.
My posts under thewho only increased by 10 to 15 by adding in the guest posts.
Link to post count (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=344501#p344501)
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TheWho
Aspen's Goebbels
Posts: 4300
Joined: 02 Aug 2005, 12:02
Location: Newton, Ma
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Mine increased "well over a thousand"? So 3540 - 3526 = over a thousand? Damn, Whooter, math is not your strong suit at all! If it went up by "more than a thousand" where are those posts, huh? Why did my daily average number of posts not change at all, huh? Crybaby took a beating and was shown to be the ultimate troll and phony with over 9,000 posts to his credit. Only Antigen has more.
For those of you wondering what happened here, Whooter claimed I made thousands of guest posts and had several aliases on Fornits. I challenged him to have all of our guest posts tied to our user accounts and he finally agreed after a month or two of badgering. Guess what the results were, folks...
Wow, TheWho's account jumped from 4200 posts to OVER SEVEN THOUSAND! Over THREE THOUSAND ANON POSTS that he was vehemently denying! Ouch, phony-boy. You got hit HARD!
Whooter's anon posts got mostly put under "TheWho" which made up over three thousand more posts.
AsTheWho, Whooter has postsed an amazing 7257 times. That count was 4200 this morning. Over three thousand anon posts, Whooter. You are really, really obsessed. 7257 as TheWho and 2000 as Whooter makes you by far and away the most prolific troll on Fornits. Psy only has 5000 posts and he's an admin!
The funny thing is that the posts of TheWho had been linked to his account previously, so these 3,000 new posts by Whooter came in just the last year or so since he sold off his TheWho account. Best part? Since they were mistakenly moved under TheWho instead of Whooter, he can't even edit them. So now he's stuck with no way to get out of it. This is too funny!
Damn, Whooter. I guess we now know what you do all day and night. Holy schnikies!
For the record, my post count went from 3526 to 3540, a whopping 14 anon posts from five years of posting.
Recap:
Me - 14 anon posts and no aliases
Whooter - over 3,000 anon posts and seven aliases and counting
Where do you get all these figures DJ? Did you just make all this up? Do you have any links? How do you come up with over 7,000 posts for the user name TheWho?
TheWho has 4,300 thats about what it was when I handed it over to Ursus. so it didnt change at all.
Whooter has 1,985 Which is up about 12 posts after Psy added my anon posts.
Dysfunction junction has 3550 which is up over a 1,000 posts from this morning. I realize you have been trolling me but that is alot.
If I have had over 3,000 anon posts under "Whooter" then why does my post count say 1,985? Can you go over your education background again?
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Lols. Whooter now has an addditioal thousand posts under "Whooter". 3013.
Psy made a mistake on my account and rolled in 3 other users by accident. Ask him. He'll tell you the same.
Mine=admin error
Whooter's=over 4000 anon posts in the last year alone
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Lols. Whooter now has an addditioal thousand posts under "Whooter". 3013.
Psy made a mistake on my account and rolled in 3 other users by accident. Ask him. He'll tell you the same.
Mine=admin error
Whooter's=over 4000 anon posts in the last year alone
You are delusional, I have 1,986 under Whooter (Total).. look under my avatar. Why do you say this? no one is going to believe you now that you lie like this.
Look under my Avatar? I think you lost it, DJ.
Posts: 1987
Joined: 28 Jun 2009, 18:52
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TheWho
Aspen's Goebbels
Posts: 4300
Joined: 02 Aug 2005, 12:02
Location: Newton, Ma
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The post count stayed the same, DJ. Why do you just make up all these numbers? Anyone can see TheWho has 4,300 posts.
Your account is the only one that increased and it increased by over 1,000. I think you are losing it. Go check your numbers again or get some rest.
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All you do is just lie and try to make the readers believe you, DJ. Your posts increased by over 1,000 and mine stayed the same. Show the readers where thewho has over 7,000 posts.
While you are looking for the numbers lets run another test:
Everyone look at their footer... ready?
Okay who is obsessed?
You still take the prize DJ. Now lets see how you came up with TheWho having over 7,000 posts. TheWho's posts stayed the same at 4,300. you cant change that.
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Click on Whooter's username, then click on "search user's posts" and you will see "Search found 3018 matches".
Link To Whooter's 3018 Posts (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/search.php?author_id=5558&sr=posts)
Logged in, Whooter has 1990 posts. 3018 - 1990 = 1028 anon troll posts.
So, "Whooter" has 3018 posts with 1028 troll posts.
Whooter's first post was 9/14/2009. So in less than one year, Whooter has posted 3018 times.
The new forum rules (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29724) were implemented on 2/1/2010 the point at which anonymous posting was ended. So, between 9/14/09 and 2/1/10, a span of four months, Whooter posted anonymously 1028 times. Or a rate of about 3100 anon troll posts per year. Wow.
Now, click on the username TheWho, then click on "search user's posts" and you will see "Search found 7190 matches".
Link To TheWho's 7190 Posts. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/search.php?author_id=2760&sr=posts)
He had 4200 posts when he sold his account to Ursus. 7190 - 4200 = 2990 anon troll posts. Or about 1000 troll posts per year as TheWho.
TheWho's first post was 10/3/2005. His last post as TheWho was on or about 9/25/08. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=25894&hilit=thewho+auction+account#p315819) But a few of his recent troll posts got hooked up under TheWho instead of Whooter.
Grand Totals:
10, 208 total posts
4, 018 troll posts as an anon
Roughly 40% of all Whooter's posts are troll posts.
In the four months between his creation of "Whooter" and the new rules kicking in, he posted 1018 anon posts or 8.5 troll posts per day every day.
Stunning.
He also has about double the number of posts as anyone else who has joined Fornits since he has. He literally spends day and night, every day and night posting here.
Later we can examine his aliases and show just how many different people he has posed as.
As for me, I had zero aliases,although Whooter accused me of "dozens of aliases." Psy made a mistake updating the database and rolled up my wife's named account (now extinctified by accident) and her 2,700+ posts into mine because we have the same IP address. Psy will verify this. He also apologized to me and lamented he could not revert the DB to fix it and offered to do it post-by-post but I told him that wasn't necessary and not to worry about it. He also rolled up two coworkers that post here through our corporate default gateway to the tune of another 500-600 posts. They are not happy, but will live.
So, when all is said and done, Whooter had over 4,000 anon troll posts and I had 14.
Whooter has seven confirmed aliases so far and I have none.
That ends this transmission...
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Lol, DJ you are running queries. you have no concept of what you are doing. Look at the total posts under the avatar for an accurate count.
Try this:
Take your name "Dysfunction Junction" and
Then click on "search users posts"
What do you come up with?... 7,067 matches
Does this mean you have 7,067 posts? no it doesnt. Its a query/search result. Whats the matter with you?
Here was the accurate count about an hour ago:
Whooter…. 1985
DJ……..3550
TheWho … 4,300
Your posts increased by over 1,000 since this morning. No one has over 7,000 posts you dont understand what you are doing.
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Can you please take the dick measuring contest to PMs.
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UPDATE: TheWho has a few more added now. The total is now 7, 257.
I won't recalculate. I think everyone gets the idea. The number will just go up a little.
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He also has about double the number of posts as anyone else who has joined Fornits since he has. He literally spends day and night, every day and night posting here.
As I have said befor he is paid by the industry to do damage control so they can run their kid warehousing operation and suck the life out of the parents bank accounts...
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Don't cry, Whooter, dry your eyes. You got a fry pan upside the head. You'll live. You can post another 10,000 posts if you want.
You got your posts linked and the count went up over 4,000 posts. Tough luck.
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Can you please take the dick measuring contest to PMs.
Drama box time?
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UPDATE: TheWho has a few more added now. The total is now 7, 257.
I won't recalculate. I think everyone gets the idea. The number will just go up a little.
Then look at your own DJ:
The total number of posts for Dysfunction junction is 7,067.
Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/search.php?author_id=2271&sr=posts)
Its a query result. the total number of posts is listed under the Avatar.
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UPDATE: TheWho has a few more added now. The total is now 7, 257.
I won't recalculate. I think everyone gets the idea. The number will just go up a little.
7,070 posts for DJ as of this post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/search.php?author_id=2271&sr=posts)
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UPDATE: TheWho has a few more added now. The total is now 7, 257.
I won't recalculate. I think everyone gets the idea. The number will just go up a little.
7,070 posts for DJ as of this post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/search.php?author_id=2271&sr=posts)
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So you see that you have over 7,000 posts yourself based on your own query. do you feel stupid yet?
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Psy made a mistake and apologized. No big deal. He screwed up.
Whooter breaks 10000 like the Dow Jones!
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Psy made a mistake and apologized. No big deal. He screwed up.
But as for you...10000 plus posts. Wowie.
It's so bad for Whooter he just sent me a pm threatening to "expose your identity" and tell my "employer what you do at work". Lols. Go for it tough guy. Sore loser to the max.
After all that crying about posting private info this butt-hurt troll threatens me via PM.
Hilarious.
Oh No now I just threatened to tell your employer? and expose your identity?
I think you are losing it DJ.
In case you sober up and come back to earth here are the post counts (a few hours ago after psy updated our posts):
Whooter…. 1985
DJ……..3550
TheWho … 4,300
You can find them next to the peoples Avatar (every poster has them). I feel sorry for you a little, DJ. Maybe I should have not forced you to expose your guest posts like that and show you were trolling me for years on end.
It was classic though, DJ.... wiggle, wiggle wiggle lol.
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If that PM existed, there would be screenshots posted here already. It's funny because the mob of people demand proof from people like me, then posters within the cult make any claim they want and it's accepted as truth without question. The double standard here is obvious to everyone not a part of the group think.
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You can find them next to the peoples Avatar (every poster has them). We dont need you to lie to us and tell us I have 10,000 posts because we all know it is not true.
Actually you have 10280 posts between the two accounts. DJ has 7071. (direct from DB queries) For some reason the post counts aren't updating properly under your avatars. Compare the numbers I just gave you with what's shown currently and you should have a good idea of what percentage of guest postings each of you have. Hope that finalizes this little contest of yours.
Don't shoot the messenger. You were both wrong in your estimates.
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You can find them next to the peoples Avatar (every poster has them). We dont need you to lie to us and tell us I have 10,000 posts because we all know it is not true.
Actually you have 10280 posts between the two accounts. DJ has 7071. (direct from DB queries) For some reason the post counts aren't updating properly. Compare the numbers with what's shown currently and you should have a good idea of what percentage of guest postings each of you have. Hope that finalizes this little contest of yours.
Its a query error and may have something to do with the update and is double counting some of the posts (probably when it joins 2 tables). DJ's posts went from 2,000 to 7,071 after the update. I know he was trolling me quite a bit, but that seems excessive even for him to have 5,000 guest posts added to his account. I would have guessed more like 2,000.
The totals under the Avatars seem accurate, though. I have, as of a few hours ago:
Whooter…. 1985
DJ……..3550
TheWho … 4,300
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Can you please take the dick measuring contest to PMs.
Drama box time?
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You can find them next to the peoples Avatar (every poster has them). We dont need you to lie to us and tell us I have 10,000 posts because we all know it is not true.
Actually you have 10280 posts between the two accounts. DJ has 7071. (direct from DB queries) For some reason the post counts aren't updating properly. Compare the numbers with what's shown currently and you should have a good idea of what percentage of guest postings each of you have. Hope that finalizes this little contest of yours.
Its a query error and may have something to do with the update and is double counting some of the posts (probably when it joins 2 tables). DJ's posts went from 2,000 to 7,071 after the update. I know he was trolling me quite a bit, but that seems excessive even for him to have 5,000 guest posts added to his account. I would have guessed more like 2,000.
If you're rejecting your numbers from the DB, why accept the 7k figure for DJ? Here is a screenshot I just took several seconds ago of DJ's avatar showing 3556 posts:
[attachment=0:2orwt31e]Screen shot 2010-08-25 at 8.16.54 PM.png[/attachment:2orwt31e]
Either way, with either set of numbers, you're both about neck and neck. Why not just call it a draw or take this to the drama box?
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As the person who started this thread, I made it clear earlier today that this thread can be used as an open free for all, and people are free to post what they wish here. This still stands, consider this thread an open free for all about everything and anything you want. I do not authorize this thread to be shut, moved or censored. (it seems we must make our wishes crystal clear these days to avoid confusion)
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As the person who started this thread, I made it clear earlier today that this thread can be used as an open free for all, and people are free to post what they wish here. This still stands, consider this thread an open free for all about everything and anything you want. I do not authorize this thread to be shut, moved or censored. (it seems we must make our wishes crystal clear these days to avoid confusion)
No one cares what you "authorize."
"It's over, Johnny." :roflmao: :moon: :fuckoff: ::poke:: :rofl: :rofl:
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You can find them next to the peoples Avatar (every poster has them). We dont need you to lie to us and tell us I have 10,000 posts because we all know it is not true.
Actually you have 10280 posts between the two accounts. DJ has 7071. (direct from DB queries) For some reason the post counts aren't updating properly under your avatars. Compare the numbers I just gave you with what's shown currently and you should have a good idea of what percentage of guest postings each of you have. Hope that finalizes this little contest of yours.
Don't shoot the messenger. You were both wrong in your estimates.
Except for the fact you hosed up my account, Psy. It would be nice if you could just come out and say it in public.
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whatever it's name is today wrote
"I do not authorize this thread to be shut, moved or censored."
Just who the fuck do you think you are to "authorize" anything?
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Except for the fact you hosed up my account, Psy. It would be nice if you could just come out and say it in public.
Sorry. Just to let people know, DJ's wife's posts are rolled into his account.
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Except for the fact you hosed up my account, Psy. It would be nice if you could just come out and say it in public.
Sorry. Just to let people know, DJ's wife's posts are rolled into his account.
Thanks, Psy, The post counts did jump up more than we expected. All posts that were posted from the same IP's would have been together. So anyone who posted from the same Ip's that DJ posted from (including his aliases) were gathered together under his user name "Dysfunction Junction" and those that posted from my IP's were gathered together under "Whooter" and "TheWho".
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Except for the fact you hosed up my account, Psy. It would be nice if you could just come out and say it in public.
Sorry. Just to let people know, DJ's wife's posts are rolled into his account.
Thank you for saying that, Psy. I and she appreciate it. Knock off 2,700+ off my tally and we're close to the target.
7071 - 2700 = 4371 total posts over five plus years for me.
10280 total posts over just under five years for Whooter.
Whooter has 5,909 more posts than me over a little bit shorter period.
There you have it. Now, Whooter, please stop spamming my PM box with your drivel.
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Except for the fact you hosed up my account, Psy. It would be nice if you could just come out and say it in public.
Sorry. Just to let people know, DJ's wife's posts are rolled into his account.
Thank you for saying that, Psy. I and she appreciate it. Knock off 2,700+ off my tally and we're close to the target.
7071 - 2700 = 4371 total posts over five plus years for me.
10280 total posts over just under years for Whooter.
Whooter has 5,909 more posts than me over a little bit shorter period.
There you have it. Now, Whooter, please stop spamming my PM box with your drivel.
DJ, the code was run the same way for both of us. He didnt run yours any differently than mine. All the posts made by my wife or anyone else would be gathered the same way.
The same rules applied to both of us equally, You can ask Psy if you like.
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My wife had a registered account with close to 3,000 posts. Your posts are yours, bro. Unless you are going to "pull a Danny" and start claiming there are sevral of you using your account. Fornits is literally all you do. You spam every thread I post in and my f'ing PM box constantly.
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My wife had a registered account with close to 3,000 posts. Your posts are yours, bro. Unless you are going to "pull a Danny" and start claiming there are sevral of you using your account. Fornits is literally all you do. You spam every thread I post in and my f'ing PM box constantly.
Oh yeah! My wife posted all the time (could be 3,000 posts, maybe more. lol) and there were probably about 10 or 15 which were my daughters posts. She didnt have much interest in posting though.
Psy used the same code on both of our updates, ask him. He gathered by IP address. It was partly my fault because I supplied the code to him. I apologize.
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My wife had a registered account with close to 3,000 posts. Your posts are yours, bro. Unless you are going to "pull a Danny" and start claiming there are sevral of you using your account. Fornits is literally all you do. You spam every thread I post in and my f'ing PM box constantly.
My wife posted all the time (could be 3,000 posts, maybe more) and there were probably about 10 or 15 which were my daughters posts. She didnt have much interest in posting though.
Psy used the same code on both of our updates, ask him. He gathered by IP address. It was partly my fault because I supplied the code to him. I apologize.
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Nice attempt, but you'd have to have Psy tell me you informed him of this before he did the update in order for me to believe you. Otherwise you're just trying to use my situation as cover for yourself. I can't take your word for it, sorry. Your word is no good here.
Your story just doen't pass the smell test and I think you already know that. Maybe if you mentioned it to Psy yesterday or posted about it yesterday, but not now.
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My wife had a registered account with close to 3,000 posts. Your posts are yours, bro. Unless you are going to "pull a Danny" and start claiming there are sevral of you using your account. Fornits is literally all you do. You spam every thread I post in and my f'ing PM box constantly.
My wife posted all the time (could be 3,000 posts, maybe more) and there were probably about 10 or 15 which were my daughters posts. She didnt have much interest in posting though.
Psy used the same code on both of our updates, ask him. He gathered by IP address. It was partly my fault because I supplied the code to him. I apologize.
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Nice attempt, but you'd have to have Psy tell me you informed him of this before he did the update in order for me to believe you. Otherwise you're just trying to use my situation as cover for yourself. I can't take your word for it, sorry. Your word is no good here.
Your story just doen't pass the smell test and I think you already know that. Maybe if you mentioned it to Psy yesterday or posted about it yesterday, but not now.
Ask Psy how he did the update, DJ. He ran both of ours the same way. All the posts which were under the same Ip's were brought together. That means both our spouses and my daughters posts would be tied to my user name. Your wifes posts would be tied to yours.
I apologize because I supplied the code and feel partially responsible, but the code was applied to both our accounts the same way.
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Only you never mentioned your wife had an account and always maintained your daughter never posted here. Nobody can take your word on this, sorry. If you reported this to the admins yesterday before the update and can supply the PM, I'll let you slide. Psy obviously acknowledged my situation, but all I have to go on here is your word, which is worthless. Those posts are yours until an admin says otherwise. Those are the rules we play by here now. Get back to me when you have some evidence.
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Only you never mentioned your wife had an account and always maintained your daughter never posted here. Nobody can take your word on this, sorry. If you reported this to the admins yesterday before the update and can supply the PM, I'll let you slide. Psy obviously acknowledged my situation, but all I have to go on here is your word, which is worthless. Those posts are yours until an admin says otherwise. Those are the rules we play by here now. Get back to me when you have some evidence.
Yeah, my daughter didnt take much interest in fornits, which was her choice. You never spoke to me about your wife's account or what her log in name was. The first time I heard of it was when you told me about it today. I never spoke to anyone here or mentioned myself that my wife posted. Like you I never gave it any thought that her posts would be combined with mine. But either way it doesnt matter to me.
The code that psy used was applied to both of our accounts so we both had the same issues.
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Why the hell would I ever mention anything to you? Who the fuck are you to be privy to my marriage?
Come back with an admin to verify your story. Otherwise, step off. Nobody buys anything your selling, dude.
No way you can deny your logged posts, either. Over 1,700 in the past 60 days. All made by you under your login name "Whooter." Almost every one is a troll post.
Whooter has been a very busy troll here lately. Take a look at this screenshot of my PM box from June 28, 2010. (http://http://s1014.photobucket.com/albums/af262/dysfunction_junction/?action=view¤t=WhooterLies.jpg)
At that point in time Whooter only had 203 posts under his username. In July and part of August, less than two months time, he posted an amazing, incredible 1793 times.
He has 1996 "logged posts" as of today (over 1,000 anon posts under his "Whooter" ID, but they were from between 9/25/09 and 2/1/10 when he was still allowed to guest post) so subtract the 203 that he had less than 60 days ago and you have 1,793 posts in less than 60 days!
Get your mind around that pathology, folks. 30 posts per day, every day. Gotta love those screenshots, eh? They do come in handy when quantifying the most prolific troll in Fornits history.
With evidence like that, you'll need a good lawyer to plead your case.
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Well according to your own math you had 3,550 posts before the update and after the update you have over 7,000.
That is 3,500 guest posts trolling against me! lol Almost ever other post you made you pretended to be a guest. you hide in the shadows and attacked me. We can finally see who started all those threads against me and the John Reuben Garbage:
take a look:
Thread 1 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903&p=336332&hilit=john+reuben#p336336)
Thread 2 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27934&start=0&hilit=john+reuben)
Thread 3 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=29342&hilit=john+reuben)
You have a sickness, DJ, look at all the posts in those threads they are all yours, almost every one. Those are just a quick look I am sure you dedicate another thousand or 2 else where.
Now take a look at your footer....... You have a problem buddy.
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Here's Whooter posting anon getting pinched trolling himself pretending to be "RobertBruce." Fantastic!
As for accusing RobertBruce of being the anonymous poster, it wasn't. It was me and I'm not him. Don't let Reuben turn this into a petty flame war, as he's prone to do when he's lost the argument on the merits, as has happened in this thread for the umpteenth time.
Awww, are we a little upset that I spotted your style, RB? We can pretend that it wasn’t you and that you really spent 2 years in a program instead of the couple of weeks that is on your record at HLA. I still recognize you as a survivor even thought the only abuse you incurred was self inflicted. It is still considered abuse, right?
Fuck you Cindy, you child killer. That information about me was covered by HIPAA and Function Junction gave that to you illegally and you didnt have the balls to come forward because you are a coward. Go back under the rock where you came from.
Dude, you troll YOURSELF. Fucking whacko.
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Aspen swore under oath that it is NOT ,in any legal sense, a treatment center for "drug and alcohol or mental health therapy", that the "phases" Aspen offers are, in no legal sense of the term, "therapeutic," and that the counseling Harless offered and the confessions she took were not part of any form of therapeutic process
Is there any link that can be provided to support this? I didnt see where Aspen made the statements you listed above. But I can find where the court sided with Aspen that Matthews treatment team included a licensed therapist.
Are you able to cut and paste and exact quote and provide a link?
Who, if thats who you are. I read the first post on this thread and the person confused Harless with being Matthews therapist. They stated she was unlicensed but she is the director and therefore doesn’t need to be licensed. Matthews parents never signed Matthew up for individual Therapy (which costs extra) and that is why he never received those services. So that is where all of this is coming from. They cant post a link because there isn’t any.
You LOVE trolling yourself! Are you sure you want to keep linking to these threads that show how mental you are? Fine with me if you want.
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DJ, you finally are getting the message that you are a nut case. I see you have started to disassemble your footer. I think we all can agree it makes you look a little obsessed..... good move!
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Xcellent work DJ. Your pissing contest with Whooter has not only proven him to be a liar but it also distracted him from program recruiting for awhile as well. You probably helped save a kid from abuse by keeping Whooter tied down here. A most satisfying outcome to this battle. Keep up the good work DJ.
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Xcellent work DJ. Your pissing contest with Whooter has not only proven him to be a liar but it also distracted him from program recruiting for awhile as well. You probably helped save a kid from abuse by keeping Whooter tied down here. A most satisfying outcome to this battle. Keep up the good work DJ.
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Thanks, shaggy. The whole aim is to keep sick bastards like this from getting their hands on kids to feed into The Machine for fun and profits.
Sometimes you have to wrestle with the pig. Sometimes you get dirty.
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I can tell you're probably his spawn. You seem to have similar cognitive defects. Have a nice evening.
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I can tell you're probably his spawn. You seem to have similar cognitive defects. Have a nice evening.
Leave DB II out of this. I have been the one who has done most of the rough posting when the dirt needed to fly. As a matter of fact, DB II does not even post here that much anymore. He has already created another username, T-Rex, as in Teddy Roosevelt.
Which if you noticed he doesn't post that much on. I believe he will be closing this (DB II) user name. There is to much animosity connected to it.
I called him when Suck-It started carrying on with the "black mail" business. Danny happened to like Suck-It for what he felt was a genuine moral conviction. He is not that sure anymore what to make of anything concerning suck-it or whooter. He understood there was a fine line to walk with suck it and whooter but that line was washed away the past couple of days.
Anyways I'm sure if you were to talk with Danny, he would accept all responsibility for actions committed under this user name.
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Ok. Fair enough. Take care.
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Come on DJ, out of all those posts you have to be able to find more trolling then that. Look at what I found in just ten minutes:
Thread 1 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903&p=336332&hilit=john+reuben#p336336)
Thread 2 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27934&start=0&hilit=john+reuben)
Thread 3 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=29342&hilit=john+reuben)
That is total obsession!! Almost every post in that thread was yours lol
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Eliscu2 wrote
" I WISH I HAD MY 2 GUITARS BACK"
What kind did you have?
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
Joel, get a set of balls, post it. This is over two weeks ago and this post is from a dude we call "E", he in fact was posting the rough stuff and can back it up. Whatever.
He no longer as others post on my username. Period.
They also don't post on this web site under any other username. There gone. It was stupid.[/b]
Re: I'm still here
Postby DannyB II » August 26th, 2010, 2:59 pm
Dysfunction Junction wrote:
I can tell you're probably his spawn. You seem to have similar cognitive defects. Have a nice evening.
DannyB II wrote:
Leave DB II out of this. I have been the one who has done most of the rough posting when the dirt needed to fly. As a matter of fact, DB II does not even post here that much anymore. He has already created another username, T-Rex, as in Teddy Roosevelt.
Which if you noticed he doesn't post that much on. I believe he will be closing this (DB II) user name. There is to much animosity connected to it.
I called him when Suck-It started carrying on with the "black mail" business. Danny happened to like Suck-It for what he felt was a genuine moral conviction. He is not that sure anymore what to make of anything concerning suck-it or whooter. He understood there was a fine line to walk with suck it and whooter but that line was washed away the past couple of days.
Anyways I'm sure if you were to talk with Danny, he would accept all responsibility for actions committed under this user name.