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Title: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2010, 03:31:17 PM
Here we go, never mind were still trying to get lead paint and asbestos out of some these schools, still trying to get enough funding to properly educate our youth and trying to compensate our teachers for a days work. No we have to f@#$ w/ this child concerning his hair ( which by the way is neatly groomed ) and show him what a bunch of hypocritical old chastisers they can be.
Now this has to be some form of abuse, if other then freedom of expression (self will), or at the very least teaching him to be so narrow minded that it's almost criminal. (maybe hurtfull)........ :shamrock:
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Pile of Dead Kids on January 12, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
The Texas educational system is completely fucked. They're trying to fuck over the textbooks to go after evolution. It's disgusting.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2010, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: "Danny Bennison"
Here we go, never mind were still trying to get lead paint and asbestos out of some these schools, still trying to get enough funding to properly educate our youth and trying to compensate our teachers for a days work. No we have to f@#$ w/ this child concerning his hair ( which by the way is neatly groomed ) and show him what a bunch of hypocritical old chastisers they can be.
Now this has to be some form of abuse, if other then freedom of expression (self will), or at the very least teaching him to be so narrow minded that it's almost criminal. (maybe hurtfull)........ :shamrock:

What is your argument for child abuse Danny?
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2010, 05:34:22 PM
Well being a parent and having my child in a public school that my taxes are paying for, I would argue I have some say.
As is the case of the said parent in this case, she is not backing down and wants her son reinstituted back into the general population.
The abuse is to single out a particular student for his hair being to long, place him in a separate class all by himself, and tell him he is different.
I'll start there.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Ursus on January 12, 2010, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: "Danny Bennison"
As is the case of the said parent in this case...
Which case would that be?
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Whooter on January 12, 2010, 05:54:06 PM
Seems we have gone full circle.  They tried to pull that crap when I was in school and finally the school realized that there were bigger issues to worry about.  Why don’t they focus on and put more energy into things like bullying, conflict resolution and accepting people for who they are.  Our principle in high school didn’t want the job but was next in line so had to step up and he finally quit after a few years because of the bs all around him…. He got more done and was better liked than any other.

New Rule:

The principle of the school should be selected from those who least want the job (with a promise of support).  Those insecure bastards who seek office and positions of power just want to gain control over others and they feed off of intimidating people into their own narrow way of thinking with the sole motivation of making themselves feel better for a few minutes before relaxing back into their normal state of self loathing.



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Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Danny Bennison"
As is the case of the said parent in this case...
Which case would that be?
Case being argued by his parents in front of the school board.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Pile of Dead Kids on January 12, 2010, 06:09:43 PM
Quote from: "Whooter"
The principle of the school should be selected from those who least want the job (with a promise of support). Those insecure bastards who seek office and positions of power just want to gain control over others and they feed off of intimidating people into their own narrow way of thinking with the sole motivation of making themselves feel better for a few minutes before relaxing back into their normal state of self loathing.

Holy fucking shit, Whooter. I couldn't think of a better description of program owners if I tried!
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: psy on January 12, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids"
Quote from: "Whooter"
The principle of the school should be selected from those who least want the job (with a promise of support). Those insecure bastards who seek office and positions of power just want to gain control over others and they feed off of intimidating people into their own narrow way of thinking with the sole motivation of making themselves feel better for a few minutes before relaxing back into their normal state of self loathing.

Holy fucking shit, Whooter. I couldn't think of a better description of program owners if I tried!
He does have a certain way with words.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2010, 08:19:30 PM
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New Rule:

The principle of the school should be selected from those who least want the job (with a promise of support). Those insecure bastards who seek office and positions of power just want to gain control over others and they feed off of intimidating people into their own narrow way of thinking with the sole motivation of making themselves feel better for a few minutes before relaxing back into their normal state of self loathing.

I don't think "The principle of the school should be selected from those who least want the job" would make the parents happy.  They would crucify school administrators during PTA meetings.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2010, 12:14:17 PM
Well if your reading the papers today, Texas will be fighting the oldest war known to man religion.
What kind do they want in their state and particularly in (my thread) schools.
Here we are again w/ the cusades, do we still have the vestiges of puritanicals moral codes around.
Yep, we do that what this thread is about and it is beginning to be about crusades too.
 Christain crusades......or atheist crusades......possibly agnostic....which I believe the definition
is "w/o knowledge", (very apropos). Texas definitly needs to have the spirit of "a~ga~pe to enter the state,
(choose your definition for "state").
 May the road rise to meet to you, my fiends........ :shamrock:
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2010, 12:36:16 PM
Taylor Pugh - Boy Suspended For Long Hair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCVbuNg1s2M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCVbuNg1s2M)

A Blog for Busy Moms – MOMania
Should hair length be regulated by school dress codes?
7:00 am January 13, 2010, by Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

(http://http://blogs.ajc.com/momania/files/2010/01/Hair_Fight_JPEG_347119c.jpg)
Four-year-old Taylor Pugh says he's growing his hair out to give to cancer patients. His school says it's not OK and suspended him. (AP)

A 4-year-old boy has been suspended from his pre-K class in Texas since late November because the school says his hair is too long and violates its dress code.

Taylor Pugh has been separated from his class and sent to the library to study with a teacher’s aide since Nov. 24.  Here’s background on the story.

The school board did offer a compromise on Monday where the boy could braid his hair and pin it up. But the parents rejected it because the mother says her son likes his long and the braiding would make his scalp bleed according to the Associated Press.

From The New York Times:

“The boy’s parents, Delton Pugh and Elizabeth Taylor, have argued that it is unfair to punish Taylor for his longish locks; it suggests, they say, that the district cares more about appearances than education.”

“ ‘I don’t think it’s right to hold a child down and force him to do something,’ Mr. Pugh, a tattoo artist, told The Associated Press. ‘It’s not hurting him or affecting his education.’ ”

“ ‘It’s a trade-off,’ said one board member, Gary Bingham, an insurance agent, in an interview. ‘Do the parents value his education more than they value a 4-year-old’s decision to make his own grooming choices?’ ”

The little guy says he misses his friends.

The AP story explains more on the dress code:

“According to the district dress code, boys’ hair must be kept out of the eyes and cannot extend below the bottom of earlobes or over the collar of a dress shirt. Fads in hairstyles ‘designed to attract attention to the individual or to disrupt the orderly conduct of the classroom or campus is not permitted,’ the policy states.”

(http://http://blogs.ajc.com/momania/files/2010/01/Hair-fight-up.jpg)
I personally think the little guy is lot cuter with his hair down. (AP)

“The district is known for standing tough on its dress code. Last year, a seventh-grader was sent home for wearing black skinny pants. His parents chose to home-school him.”

“On its Web site, the district says its code is in place because ’students who dress and groom themselves neatly, and in an acceptable and appropriate manner, are more likely to become constructive members of the society in which we live.’ ”

“Taylor said her fight is not over. She and her husband are considering taking the district to court or appealing to the State Board of Education.”

” ‘I know that there are a whole set of steps we can take,’ she said.”

OK parents and teachers what do you think: Should a school dress code control the appearance of a child’s hair? How do Georgia public schools with dress codes handle hair?

What should the standards for hair length and appearance be based on? Should boy standards differ from girl standards?

Should the parents agree to the braids? Should they pull their child from the school? Should they fight on? What would you do?

What do you think of the school’s Web site statements?
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2010, 12:48:03 PM
Thank you,
You are much more computer savey then I am, but I'm getting there. Byte by Byte...... :shamrock:
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: justonemore on January 13, 2010, 04:23:49 PM
Re: A 4 year old boy as a a pawn in a media circus. So, let me see if I get this straight. A 4 year old boy has decided, on his own, to grow and give his hair to "cancer victims" How unutterably noble of him, at just 4 years old.  I sincerely hope that ( but do not believe that) the parents aren't punking their own child, for the sake of their own ideaology. If this sort of parental behaviour is allowed to continue, what will you say to that kid when he's forty, unable to keep a job, or pursue career because he's so "inner-directed" and "follows a higher truth" that he's unable to take out the trash or feed himself? Will you say " Dude. Thanks for your contribution" ?  In order to be educated, first one must learn the rules, only then may one learn when, how, and, very importantly, WHY to break those rules. I consider this one to be child abuse. If you don't teach your children self-control and self- discipline, then you don't love your children. There's a reason it's called "Fire-Discipline"  There is a medical adage which proves acros the board, (test it and see for yourself) and that adage is: When you see hoofprints, look for horses. Ponder that. It means, in a nutshell, Look For The Obvious!  
J.O.M.
 ::unhappy::  Dang it! Thet Thur Lil' Guy's Evar whar!
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2010, 04:57:56 PM
The child's parents will have a very strong case if the school does not apply the same standard to all students.  I would argue, provided the school is not applying the standard equally, the school is refusing Taylor's right to an education, including gender discrimination.  The parents have two options.  They can cut Taylor's hair or apply this hairstyle [ http://blogs.ajc.com/momania/files/2010 ... ght-up.jpg (http://blogs.ajc.com/momania/files/2010/01/Hair-fight-up.jpg) ].
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Pile of Dead Kids on January 13, 2010, 08:21:31 PM
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Top and bottom clothing items cannot be the same color.

....WHAT? No, WHAT?! So if a kid comes in with a blue shirt and a pair of jeans they'll throw him out? Or if a kid has his mother's funeral sometime that day, he better not come in wearing black? And what if an.... never mind.

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Leather, suede, vinyl, corduroy, denim and knit materials

Doesn't that cover pretty much everything?!

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Girls must wear sufficient undergarments. (What does that even mean?!)

Better question, who's in charge of making sure of this, Brian Peppers?

This thing needs to be given as a parenting test. Anyone who doesn't react to it with "Oh Jesus Christ, what the hell is wrong with you?" loses their kids.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2010, 12:44:22 AM
VERY DISTURBING WHAT GOES ON IN THE BABY BOOMERS MIND.
SHIT 30 YRS. AGO WE WERE RUNNING AROUND NAKED IN A
65 FORD VAN LOOKING FOR OUR NEXT WOODSTOCK.
LOOK HOW FAR WE COME,  RIGHT BACK WHERE
ARE DADS RAISED US.
..... :shamrock: .....
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Che Gookin on January 14, 2010, 04:09:18 AM
Sorry Daniel-san but when your daddy raised you, you wouldn't have been in school at four years old. Here is my biggest gripe about the whole thing, what the hell is a four year old doing in school to begin with? I couldn't give a toss about the hair, the patns, the large purple dildo, or even the man on the grassy knoll. I do find it utterly incomprehensible that a four year old of any gender is being sent to school.

WTF... when I was four I spent most of my time getting screamed at for stupid shit. School never once entered into the equation. I don't even remember doing preschool.

Yeah the dress code is cornholed, but I see it as a lessor problem to a bigger issue. The forced socialization of children at a younger and younger age. I probably shouldn't see a sinister agenda at play so I'll leave it to someone else to read between the lines.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2010, 07:26:31 PM
WELL THE POINT IS TAKEN CHE',
BTW LIKE THE NAME AND THE MAN...ONE OF MY HERO'S.....ASSUMPTION????
ANYWAY, YOUR RIGHT THE "MIGHTY MACHINE" HAD NOT TAKEN HOLD YET FOR YE TODDLERS,
MOTHERS WERE STILL ARGUEING WITH THE "MIGHTY MACHINE" TO GIVE THEM THE RIGHT BACK
TO BREAST FEED THEIR TODDLERS. SO I GUESS THEY (MM) FIGURED THE MONEY THEY WOULD BE LOSING
FROM BREAST FEEDING THEY COULD MAKE UP WITH GETTING THE TODDLERS IN SCHOOL BY 2 YRS
OR 4 LATER ON................HEE HAW FROM GEORGIA...... :shamrock:...... :soapbox:.... :deal:
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2010, 03:49:02 PM
Quote from: "bossybee39"
Danny you were an ex staff member of one of the biggest abusive schools, how dare you cry about other schools open. you are the pot calling the kettle black  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:

You are finding reasons to bust Danny's balls.  It is time to move on and get help from a therapist.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Che Gookin on January 17, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: "bossybee39"
Danny you were an ex staff member of one of the biggest abusive schools, how dare you cry about other schools open. you are the pot calling the kettle black  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:

Hey Cunt, I am ex-staff from 3 springs, why don't you take the time to suck my nuts first?
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
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Hey Cunt, I am ex-staff from 3 springs, why don't you take the time to suck my nuts first?

This reminds me of a hilarious prank call.
Sal & Richard's Public Access Calls - 31 - Ghetto Sports 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuoyL9Kj ... 3A&index=7 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuoyL9KjPfE&feature=PlayList&p=5BFFB2C666001B3A&index=7)

Cunt: 1:23 - 1:25
Cunt: 1:32 - 1:35
Cunt: 1:44 - 1:48
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Ursus on January 21, 2010, 04:24:18 PM
Getting back on topic, here's the offending nemesis of that bugaboo:

(http://http://www.alternet.org/images/managed/blogimage_091217taylorpugh.jpg_thumbs_600x450_thumbs_200x150)
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2010, 01:49:06 AM
I wonder what happened to this little guy, tried to find out but have had no success yet.
 :shamrock:  :shamrock:  :shamrock: Danny
Title: Teacher Punishes Boys With Haircut, Bows
Post by: Ursus on March 01, 2010, 10:48:16 AM
Teacher Punishes Boys With Haircut, Bows (http://http://www.wisn.com/education/11842301/detail.html)
POSTED: 1:29 pm CDT April 13, 2007
UPDATED: 3:53 pm CDT April 13, 2007


MILAN, Ind. -- Debbie Hackman's son, Caleb, was one of two boys who came home from school this week with a new haircut -– and the barber was the boys' teacher at Milan Elementary School.

According to students, fourth-grade teacher Jennifer Blockman punished the boys by tying pink bows in their hair and cutting their hair in front of the class.

"He doesn't really want to go back to school because he's afraid he's going to be made fun of (and) maybe picked on," said Hackman, who wants the teacher to apologize.

"I do realize adults make mistakes, but they have to own up to them," she said. "Apologize to the student. I don't think this has happened yet."

Other parents expressed outrage as they waited to see how the school district would handle the incident.

"That should have nothing to do with the education at all," said parent Stephanie Crossman. "If it was a concern of the teacher, the teacher should have talked it over with the children's parents. It's also humiliating for the kids involved because it happened in front of other kids."

Blockman is scheduled to meet with school officials, sources told WLWT-TV.


© 2010, Internet Broadcasting Systems, Inc.
Title: Re: Teacher Punishes Boys With Haircut, Bows
Post by: Anonymous on March 01, 2010, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: "Ursus"
Teacher Punishes Boys With Haircut, Bows (http://http://www.wisn.com/education/11842301/detail.html)
POSTED: 1:29 pm CDT April 13, 2007
UPDATED: 3:53 pm CDT April 13, 2007


MILAN, Ind. -- Debbie Hackman's son, Caleb, was one of two boys who came home from school this week with a new haircut -– and the barber was the boys' teacher at Milan Elementary School.

According to students, fourth-grade teacher Jennifer Blockman punished the boys by tying pink bows in their hair and cutting their hair in front of the class.

"He doesn't really want to go back to school because he's afraid he's going to be made fun of (and) maybe picked on," said Hackman, who wants the teacher to apologize.

"I do realize adults make mistakes, but they have to own up to them," she said. "Apologize to the student. I don't think this has happened yet."

Other parents expressed outrage as they waited to see how the school district would handle the incident.

"That should have nothing to do with the education at all," said parent Stephanie Crossman. "If it was a concern of the teacher, the teacher should have talked it over with the children's parents. It's also humiliating for the kids involved because it happened in front of other kids."

Blockman is scheduled to meet with school officials, sources told WLWT-TV.

 
© 2010, Internet Broadcasting Systems, Inc.
:shamrock:
Jeesh,  WTF is going on is this the 1800's all over again. Makes me feel were going backwards....It amazes me that a teacher could even feel she has the liberties to engage in discipline like this....Where the F@#$ is this coming from....School Board..Alumni..lol, other teachers, maybe some parents from the PTA.
Schools it seems feel so threatened that their loosing control (delusional thinking) that they are reverting back to practices of discipline that they would have rebelled against. I can hear it now in the teachers lounge,"We must gain control of these derelicts, ya kno them long haired ones, well we'll just cut their hair and put pink ribbons in the hair and verbally abuse them. That'll teach em....."  
This is just sick twisted behavior that doesn't come close to dealing with the crime in relative terms of equal discipline.
 :shamrock:  :shamrock: ............Danny....
Title: Hair chopped in Wisconsin
Post by: Ursus on March 03, 2010, 10:17:43 PM
This little first-grader recently had one of her braids chopped in front of the whole class as punishment ... for absentmindedly fiddling with her hair beads. The other kids laughed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aq1WeS6VCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aq1WeS6VCs)

The teacher fully admitted that she humiliated the student simply because she was frustrated. She's still teaching.
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2010, 10:23:49 PM
I'm beginning to think we need to open up a specific Forum to deal with Public School officials and teachers abuse of children, of this will need moderation. But I think the time has come....Maybe (fornits) can way in on this request, maybe open it up for debate before doing anything. Seriously though......
 :shamrock:  :shamrock:
Danny.............
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2010, 03:19:22 AM
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Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2011, 10:53:35 AM
Felice it just keeps going on and on, I am about ready to put them a site "NO MORE BULLIES".
Because these authority figures act like bullies.
Danny
Title: Re: Long Hair in Texas Elementry School
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2012, 07:37:34 AM
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Quote from: "Danny Bennison"
Felice it just keeps going on and on, I am about ready to put them a site "NO MORE BULLIES".
Because these authority figures act like bullies.
Danny

Isn't that the group you were blocked from for being a bully, you asshole?

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