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Title: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2009, 08:47:27 PM
So far, as many as 176 people may show up to protest AARC's Gala on June 4th.

http://www.aarc.ab.ca/fundraising/_Gala ... ip2009.pdf (http://www.aarc.ab.ca/fundraising/_GalaSponsorship2009.pdf)

AARC Makes a Difference  
 
Teen addiction is a societal issue that affects everyone.  Without AARC these          
adolescents may become financial, legal or moral liabilities to our communities and,
over time, huge financial burdens to our government and non-profit social systems.
 
The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre (AARC) is a unique  :roflmao:  long-term treatment centre
for teens addicted to drugs and alcohol.  Since we began operations in 1991, almost
400 young people have graduated and our clinical staff have worked with over 1,000
family members in treatment of this highly destructive but treatable condition. The
lives of our parents have been devastated while searching many avenues to help their
child.  Knowing that 85%  :roflmao: of our graduates are today sober, in school or working and
reunited with their families, gives our families hope.  
 
We can’t do it without your support.  :twofinger:

Protest:
Thursday, June 4, 2009
4:00pm - 6:00pm
Hyatt Regency
700 Centre Street SE
Calgary, AB
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2009, 09:50:27 PM
Sounds like a good time...  Have the media been invited?  Oh yes, they have tickets...
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2009, 10:28:42 PM
I wonder if they'll have graduates speak again, or if Josh Penner ixnayed that idea because he thinks they all sound "brainwashed and stupid."
Can't say I blame you Josh, judging by the posts I've seen from AARC supporters:

"Time after Time. My Loyalty is to Dr Vause and It always will be, he has always stood right beside me and I will do the same for him. I trust him with my life and anyone close to me, I trust every word he says to me without a doubt my loyalty is to him 100 %"

"What AARC gave to me was the biggest gift of my life. I was a straight Ghetto Punk lookiing at life in jail, AARC took me through the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anoynomous, which is nothing more then a design for life. My opinion is that they are life skills so simple that they can better anyones life who applies them, Addict or Not. My life is good today because I use the tools given to me by AARC in my daily life and not to mention some help from my higher power... I felt like putting a big piece of shit in that chicks mouth, what a liar."     - What fantastic life skills you have!  AARC clearly turned you into a better person.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: anonAARCgrad on May 24, 2009, 10:38:20 AM
It is fantastic they are still using the 85% statistic!
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: ajax13 on May 24, 2009, 12:33:45 PM
Will Ron Stevens be there?  Ronnie has been appointed a Federal Judge this week, leaving his seat in the Legislature.  Will Ken King, publisher of the Herald, heave his corpulent frame into the Hyatt, signalling continued Calgary media support for our local version of the Moonies?
Will the police, aware of the protest beforehand, allow for priorty-boarding on the Paddy Wagons?
In spite of the Fifth Estate report, not a single Calgary reporter in print or television attempted to interview anyone regarding the AARC situation.  No questions about how an unlicensed facility keeps kids for months.  No question about a facility that diagnoses a severe mood disorder using amateur counselors and a check-list from Kids.  No questions about how this facility spends $5 000 000 a year to keep forty or so kids in an industrial park six days a week with no residential facilities.  No questions as to how a former employee of a criminal enterprise was enlisted to run a mental health facility in Calgary without any professional qualifications.  No questions about why the Provincial government funds a faith-based "treatment" facility that has no license.  No questions about how this program continues to use a dangerous unregulated foster-home system that was deemed unacceptable almost forty years ago in Florida.  No questions about why our elected officials were selling the program to the people of Alberta in the legislature using the improbable and unproven "success" rate claimed by AARC. Great work journalists of Calgary.  Huzzah!
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: hanzomon4 on May 24, 2009, 05:46:55 PM
Good luck folks... bring a camera
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: psy on May 24, 2009, 07:03:29 PM
Quote from: "hanzomon4"
Good luck folks... bring a camera
Welcome back.  Haven't seen you in a while.  Hang around some.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on May 26, 2009, 05:32:25 PM
Stumbled across this today.  It is extremely well done for youtube and I like the effects they used.
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si4bjdGpbSI
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: hanzomon4 on May 26, 2009, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Stumbled across this today.  It is extremely well done for youtube and I like the effects they used.
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si4bjdGpbSI

Glad to be back mr. psy... umm where is the? Ah here it is:  ^ ::puke::
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 26, 2009, 07:37:10 PM
I really liked the special effects in this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Bt7R91 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Bt7R91FQc&feature=related)

You guys are too much... really.  :roflmao:
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: ajax13 on May 26, 2009, 11:17:59 PM
Here's my favorite.  The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.  
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.  
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5lBQ&feature=related)
Doctor and preacher?  Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on May 27, 2009, 06:52:59 AM
Quote from: "ajax13"
Here's my favorite.  The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.  
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.  
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5lBQ&feature=related)
Doctor and preacher?  Well, he's certainly not a doctor.

and yet 85% of AARC graduates are still clean after 4 years.  Go figure, not too bad for a gym teacher ay? lol
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: ajax13 on May 27, 2009, 01:06:04 PM
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on May 27, 2009, 01:48:23 PM
Quote from: "ajax13"
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.

Relax, someone is yanking your chain and feeding you a bunch of bull.  The program is harmless, your local daycare uses behavior techniques which are much worse.
Again take a look at their success rate and their bottom line costs are much lower than any inpatient setting for the same time period of time.  They have done very well with the kids who finish up at AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2009, 02:38:38 PM
I was in AARC with a couple of people with genuine psychiatric disorders, and they are crazy as ever today. I'm sorry, but humiliation and thought reform techniques just aren't a cure for schizophrenia. It makes me really sad when I think of how many clients in AARC had underlying issues that were ignored while AARC staff berated them for being "loser druggies." For a while after AARC they played along - probably even convinced themselves that AARC had cured them and saved their lives. But when they fell, they fell hard - and who wouldn't after having it drilled it into your brain that you'll die and will never feel happiness again unless you devote your life to a cult and do everything they've taught you. Putting a kid in AARC for a year when they have a serious mental health disorder is like putting an AIDS patient through chemo. It's brutal, and in the end, they'll still have a serious untreated condition. I'm pretty sure that my local daycare does not put kids in the "naughty dark room" for days, or tackle four-year-olds for "not getting honest." Give me a break. And let's be reasonable with this success rate - let's say 30% of clients feel AARC was a positive experience after five years. What do you think the chances are that a kid might grow up and stop partying ON THEIR OWN after five years? Studies have shown that at least 80% of problem drinkers grow out of it as they grow up and mature. But what AARC does, self-admittedly, is raise the bottom. They force kids to grow up a lot faster than they would, or should. Essentially, AARC "helps" some kids become stronger and more mature in the same way Ike helped Tina become a strong woman. And for the same reason I'm sure Tina doesn't send thank you cards to Ike at Christmas, I will never thank AARC for the positive things I've done with my life since I was in that prison. I can only imagine where I'd be today if I'd never realized what a scam AARC is. Judging by what I've seen from AARColytes, I'd most likely be working as a peer counselor, making fun of rape victims, and battling illiteracy.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: ajax13 on May 27, 2009, 05:38:40 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful.  They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and the replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids.  AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity.  Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process.  These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns.  It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on May 27, 2009, 05:39:42 PM
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I was in AARC with a couple of people with genuine psychiatric disorders, and they are crazy as ever today. I'm sorry, but humiliation and thought reform techniques just aren't a cure for schizophrenia. It makes me really sad when I think of how many clients in AARC had underlying issues that were ignored while AARC staff berated them for being "loser druggies." For a while after AARC they played along - probably even convinced themselves that AARC had cured them and saved their lives. But when they fell, they fell hard - and who wouldn't after having it drilled it into your brain that you'll die and will never feel happiness again unless you devote your life to a cult and do everything they've taught you. Putting a kid in AARC for a year when they have a serious mental health disorder is like putting an AIDS patient through chemo. It's brutal, and in the end, they'll still have a serious untreated condition.
That is one of the underlying problems of any treatment Centre or therapeutic boarding school.  Kids should be seen by a local therapist prior to placement in a therapeutic environment or treatment canter.  This would prevent many of these types of kids that you mentioned from getting into these places to begin with.
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I'm pretty sure that my local daycare does not put kids in the "naughty dark room" for days, or tackle four-year-olds for "not getting honest." Give me a break.
Kids in daycare are much more vulnerable and modifying their behaviour requires a lot less extreme measures.  If you compare this to a teenager who has had years of behaving in a certain pattern this could be much harder to change.   Consider a child who has smoked cigarettes for a few days to an adult who has smoked for years.  Modifying the childs behaviour would be much easier and require minimal or more benign tactics.

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And let's be reasonable with this success rate - let's say 30% of clients feel AARC was a positive experience after five years.
Actually it has been measured and it is 85%

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What do you think the chances are that a kid might grow up and stop partying ON THEIR OWN after five years?
This has always been an interesting point and I tend to agree.  I think a parallel study would prove interesting results because I feel many kids do grow out of their adolescent behaviours.

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Studies have shown that at least 80% of problem drinkers grow out of it as they grow up and mature.
I haven’t seen this study

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But what AARC does, self-admittedly, is raise the bottom. They force kids to grow up a lot faster than they would, or should.
Yes, kids mature very quickly there and are a bit ahead of their peers when they graduate.
Quote
Essentially, AARC "helps" some kids become stronger and more mature in the same way Ike helped Tina become a strong woman. And for the same reason I'm sure Tina doesn't send thank you cards to Ike at Christmas, I will never thank AARC for the positive things I've done with my life since I was in that prison.
Well I think that is all a co-dependency thing and would NOT rely on Ike and Tina as a good analogy.

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I can only imagine where I'd be today if I'd never realized what a scam AARC is. Judging by what I've seen from AARColytes, I'd most likely be working as a peer counselor, making fun of rape victims, and battling illiteracy.
I don’t know your particular circumstances but I think you would have done fine eventually either way.  With the exception of a very few most people come out of it sooner or later.  The problem is for the ones who come thru it “much” later or never at all.  If you are the type of person who makes fun of rape victims then you would be this way regardless of whether you entered a substance treatment program or not.  This type of behaviour was instilled at a very early age with you and needs to be addressed outside of an environment that these treatment centers provide.  As far as illiteracy goes it is never too late to learn to read. There are many resources available free of charge in most communities.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2009, 06:00:38 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and the replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2009, 06:09:24 PM
As a former cult member of AARC - I can personally attest for Mr. Vause' abuses and dictatorship style of running his prison.

I am a 2x survivor of that prison and can honestly say that today - by the grace of God that i am over 15 years sober and my life has never been better.

The way that it was when I was there was that it was to be done Dean's way and no other way was acceptable, just ask Jocelyn and the many other clinical staff that are no longer there, they all agree and I know as I maintained a relationship with Jocelyn after my time at AARC.

AARC has completely destroyed my family - it has severed every relationship that I had with my father or brothers outside of the rebuilding of my relationship with my brother that I am experiencing now.

AARC reminds me of Scientology - try and leave and your gonna have major problems. Out of all the clients I was in with, there is only 2 of them still sober - some success record. Some have ended up back at it and sobered up though attending AA meetings and they share the same feelings as I. The 2 still sober are absolutely of no value to society, they are so pretentious and ignorant it is just an embarrassment.

I have seen several families destroyed by this cult and MANY marriages ending up in divorce by the pressure tactics of this cult.

Good luck to those protesting the cult - take some pictures!

A Grateful Dad
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on May 27, 2009, 06:30:05 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
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I was in AARC with a couple of people with genuine psychiatric disorders, and they are crazy as ever today. I'm sorry, but humiliation and thought reform techniques just aren't a cure for schizophrenia. It makes me really sad when I think of how many clients in AARC had underlying issues that were ignored while AARC staff berated them for being "loser druggies." For a while after AARC they played along - probably even convinced themselves that AARC had cured them and saved their lives. But when they fell, they fell hard - and who wouldn't after having it drilled it into your brain that you'll die and will never feel happiness again unless you devote your life to a cult and do everything they've taught you. Putting a kid in AARC for a year when they have a serious mental health disorder is like putting an AIDS patient through chemo. It's brutal, and in the end, they'll still have a serious untreated condition.
That is one of the underlying problems of any treatment Centre or therapeutic boarding school.  Kids should be seen by a local therapist prior to placement in a therapeutic environment or treatment canter.  This would prevent many of these types of kids that you mentioned from getting into these places to begin with.
Quote
I'm pretty sure that my local daycare does not put kids in the "naughty dark room" for days, or tackle four-year-olds for "not getting honest." Give me a break.
Kids in daycare are much more vulnerable and modifying their behaviour requires a lot less extreme measures.  If you compare this to a teenager who has had years of behaving in a certain pattern this could be much harder to change.   Consider a child who has smoked cigarettes for a few days to an adult who has smoked for years.  Modifying the childs behaviour would be much easier and require minimal or more benign tactics.

Quote
And let's be reasonable with this success rate - let's say 30% of clients feel AARC was a positive experience after five years.
Actually it has been measured and it is 85%

Quote
What do you think the chances are that a kid might grow up and stop partying ON THEIR OWN after five years?
This has always been an interesting point and I tend to agree.  I think a parallel study would prove interesting results because I feel many kids do grow out of their adolescent behaviours.

Quote
Studies have shown that at least 80% of problem drinkers grow out of it as they grow up and mature.
I haven’t seen this study

Quote
But what AARC does, self-admittedly, is raise the bottom. They force kids to grow up a lot faster than they would, or should.
Yes, kids mature very quickly there and are a bit ahead of their peers when they graduate.
Quote
Essentially, AARC "helps" some kids become stronger and more mature in the same way Ike helped Tina become a strong woman. And for the same reason I'm sure Tina doesn't send thank you cards to Ike at Christmas, I will never thank AARC for the positive things I've done with my life since I was in that prison.
Well I think that is all a co-dependency thing and would NOT rely on Ike and Tina as a good analogy.

Quote
I can only imagine where I'd be today if I'd never realized what a scam AARC is. Judging by what I've seen from AARColytes, I'd most likely be working as a peer counselor, making fun of rape victims, and battling illiteracy.
I don’t know your particular circumstances but I think you would have done fine eventually either way.  With the exception of a very few most people come out of it sooner or later.  The problem is for the ones who come thru it “much” later or never at all.  If you are the type of person who makes fun of rape victims then you would be this way regardless of whether you entered a substance treatment program or not.  This type of behaviour was instilled at a very early age with you and needs to be addressed outside of an environment that these treatment centers provide.  As far as illiteracy goes it is never too late to learn to read. There are many resources available free of charge in most communities.

I agree with most of what you say but I dont think that the guest was saying that they themself made fun of rape victims.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2009, 07:15:28 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and the replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and the replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on May 27, 2009, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote
I was in AARC with a couple of people with genuine psychiatric disorders, and they are crazy as ever today. I'm sorry, but humiliation and thought reform techniques just aren't a cure for schizophrenia. It makes me really sad when I think of how many clients in AARC had underlying issues that were ignored while AARC staff berated them for being "loser druggies." For a while after AARC they played along - probably even convinced themselves that AARC had cured them and saved their lives. But when they fell, they fell hard - and who wouldn't after having it drilled it into your brain that you'll die and will never feel happiness again unless you devote your life to a cult and do everything they've taught you. Putting a kid in AARC for a year when they have a serious mental health disorder is like putting an AIDS patient through chemo. It's brutal, and in the end, they'll still have a serious untreated condition.
That is one of the underlying problems of any treatment Centre or therapeutic boarding school.  Kids should be seen by a local therapist prior to placement in a therapeutic environment or treatment canter.  This would prevent many of these types of kids that you mentioned from getting into these places to begin with.
Quote
I'm pretty sure that my local daycare does not put kids in the "naughty dark room" for days, or tackle four-year-olds for "not getting honest." Give me a break.
Kids in daycare are much more vulnerable and modifying their behaviour requires a lot less extreme measures.  If you compare this to a teenager who has had years of behaving in a certain pattern this could be much harder to change.   Consider a child who has smoked cigarettes for a few days to an adult who has smoked for years.  Modifying the childs behaviour would be much easier and require minimal or more benign tactics.

Quote
And let's be reasonable with this success rate - let's say 30% of clients feel AARC was a positive experience after five years.
Actually it has been measured and it is 85%

Quote
What do you think the chances are that a kid might grow up and stop partying ON THEIR OWN after five years?
This has always been an interesting point and I tend to agree.  I think a parallel study would prove interesting results because I feel many kids do grow out of their adolescent behaviours.

Quote
Studies have shown that at least 80% of problem drinkers grow out of it as they grow up and mature.
I haven’t seen this study

Quote
But what AARC does, self-admittedly, is raise the bottom. They force kids to grow up a lot faster than they would, or should.
Yes, kids mature very quickly there and are a bit ahead of their peers when they graduate.
Quote
Essentially, AARC "helps" some kids become stronger and more mature in the same way Ike helped Tina become a strong woman. And for the same reason I'm sure Tina doesn't send thank you cards to Ike at Christmas, I will never thank AARC for the positive things I've done with my life since I was in that prison.
Well I think that is all a co-dependency thing and would NOT rely on Ike and Tina as a good analogy.

Quote
I can only imagine where I'd be today if I'd never realized what a scam AARC is. Judging by what I've seen from AARColytes, I'd most likely be working as a peer counselor, making fun of rape victims, and battling illiteracy.
I don’t know your particular circumstances but I think you would have done fine eventually either way.  With the exception of a very few most people come out of it sooner or later.  The problem is for the ones who come thru it “much” later or never at all.  If you are the type of person who makes fun of rape victims then you would be this way regardless of whether you entered a substance treatment program or not.  This type of behaviour was instilled at a very early age with you and needs to be addressed outside of an environment that these treatment centers provide.  As far as illiteracy goes it is never too late to learn to read. There are many resources available free of charge in most communities.

In the first paragraph you mentioned the child should be seen by a therapist before going to AARC.  Well I think AARC should be responsible for the kids also and should be able to recognize if the child has a mental illness.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
Exactly. That is a perfect example of why debating on this forum feels a little like trying to convince a 3-year-old that Santa Claus does not exist. Sometimes I almost feel guilty for trying to burst your bubble when you'd obviously rather live in your fantasy world of ignorant bliss. You actually think that's a plausible argument? That it's not the treatment centre's fault for misdiagnosing the patients it coerces, I mean... admits because they should see professionals first to make that call? Shouldn't somebody who is apparently capable of treating patients be capable of assessing them accurately?
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 31, 2009, 07:35:20 PM
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Relax, someone is yanking your chain and feeding you a bunch of bull. The program is harmless, your local daycare uses behavior techniques which are much worse.
Again take a look at their success rate and their bottom line costs are much lower than any inpatient setting for the same time period of time. They have done very well with the kids who finish up at AARC.

Bradford - did they pay you to say this? Oh never mind, you're probably one of those people who "Believe 150% in everything Vause says, would never question anything and support him/AARC for the rest of your life".

Jim Jones had such dedicated followers. So does that Ron Hubbard guy.

I was in AARC, AARC hurts people, destroys all sense of trust and belief in themselves. AARC tears families apart and drives a permanent wedge in family relationships.

AARC has no verifiable success rate, all they have is an INTERNAL hand picked, not to mention highly inaccurate, study that they completed themselves and then sent the data to Hazeldon so they could forever claim it was "someone else's study".

You've got one thing right. With all the donations and the use (abuse) of parental resources including the joke called "recovery homes" AARC's bottom line is extremely low compared to the MILLIONS they rake in in revenue and donations.

So since you know so much about AARC, tell me, where does the money go?

See ya on the next fishing trip buddy, or at a Broncos game or maybe off in the Caymans.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on May 31, 2009, 10:25:16 PM
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If you are the type of person who makes fun of rape victims then you would be this way regardless of whether you entered a substance treatment program or not. This type of behaviour was instilled at a very early age with you and needs to be addressed outside of an environment that these treatment centers provide.

Yeah, and AARC sends newcomers home with these same people and instruct the parents to stay out of whatever happens.

Good plan
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 01, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
If I donated money to AARC, shouldn't I be on the invite list to go to Shearwater with the rest of the gang on AARC's (my) tab??? (Even as a no-way-in-hell donor, I still pay taxes in this province so I'm funding this cult either way...)

I guess I'm just not important enough...  

I'd like to know exactly what degree the NHL/WHL is involved with this 'treatment centre'.  Isn't Allan Markin an owner of the Flames?  And the wiz's son plays in the WHL.  And Kelly Hrudey is kind enough to plug the Wonderful Wizard of Vause on HNIC.  Maybe the Broncos connection isn't so implausible.

Many of the donors are companies that are wholly run or largely controlled by parents who have been through the program.  But there are a couple who won't send their addicted family members through the program.  Instead it seems AARC is paying for them to be treated elsewhere.  Not so much faith in the cause there, hey?  And why is AARC footing the bill for that anyway?  Or is that a condition of donation?

On the 80 or 85% success rate?  Why is this even still being debated after Patton himself has said he did not do the research behind this study.  He only crunched the data that were given to him by their own 'internal' researchers -- AARC grads.  Does this success rate include the many people who return (some immediately following graduation) for 'refreshers'?  I guarantee you that 85% of their grads aren't sober, let alone 85% of the entire client list (which includes those who left the program).  Of those who did not complete treatment, I would like to know the success rate for them, considering AARC repeatedly states that their grads' lives are saved by AARC and they would surely be deadinsaneorinjail if they don't finish.  

There ought to be a lot of ex-clients who didn't finish the program in the mental institutions, graveyards, and prisons.  All of them, in fact, should be in one of those places if we accept AARC's claims as gospel.

I think the reality is that many AARC grads end up deadinsaneorinjail...  In fact, the statistics are more verifiable than AARC's 80% success rate.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 01, 2009, 05:44:58 PM
Quote from: "fishininthedark"
Many of the donors are companies that are wholly run or largely controlled by parents who have been through the program. But there are a couple who won't send their addicted family members through the program. Instead it seems AARC is paying for them to be treated elsewhere. Not so much faith in the cause there, hey? And why is AARC footing the bill for that anyway? Or is that a condition of donation?

Could you elaborate on this, please?
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 01, 2009, 07:21:23 PM
Night Fisher wrote:
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I donated money to AARC, shouldn't I be on the invite list to go to Shearwater with the rest of the gang on AARC's (my) tab??? (Even as a no-way-in-hell donor, I still pay taxes in this province so I'm funding this cult either way...)

I guess I'm just not important enough...

I'd like to know exactly what degree the NHL/WHL is involved with this 'treatment centre'. Isn't Allan Markin an owner of the Flames? And the wiz's son plays in the WHL. And Kelly Hrudey is kind enough to plug the Wonderful Wizard of Vause on HNIC. Maybe the Broncos connection isn't so implausible.

Many of the donors are companies that are wholly run or largely controlled by parents who have been through the program. But there are a couple who won't send their addicted family members through the program. Instead it seems AARC is paying for them to be treated elsewhere. Not so much faith in the cause there, hey? And why is AARC footing the bill for that anyway? Or is that a condition of donation?
Only the top donors get the attention.  If the rep from Rolex has a kid who wants to go to a different place and it costs $100,000 a year and Rolex is donating $80,000 a year it is a wise move to pay for this kids expenses even if they are not going to AARC.  Rolex is going to be around long after this kid gets thru where ever he/she is going.  The key is to keep the donations coming each year.
If you are donating $10 you will be lucky to get a thank you note.  But I think everyone understands this.


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On the 80 or 85% success rate? Why is this even still being debated after Patton himself has said he did not do the research behind this study. He only crunched the data that were given to him by their own 'internal' researchers -- AARC grads.
There shouldn’t be any debate.  Patton was hired to crunch the numbers and oversee the writing of the report.  Every internal study is just that, internal.  An independent study would be better but many places just cant afford it so they hire professionals to oversee their own study to add credibility.  This is not uncommon.

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Does this success rate include the many people who return (some immediately following graduation) for 'refreshers'?
They used consecutive graduates.  If they returned then, yes, they were included.


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I guarantee you that 85% of their grads aren't sober, let alone 85% of the entire client list (which includes those who left the program). Of those who did not complete treatment, I would like to know the success rate for them, considering AARC repeatedly states that their grads' lives are saved by AARC and they would surely be deadinsaneorinjail if they don't finish.
If they left the program how could they be considered graduates?

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There ought to be a lot of ex-clients who didn't finish the program in the mental institutions, graveyards, and prisons. All of them, in fact, should be in one of those places if we accept AARC's claims as gospel.
Agreed, especially if they did not complete the program.  This would be an interesting statistic.

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I think the reality is that many AARC grads end up deadinsaneorinjail... In fact, the statistics are more verifiable than AARC's 80% success rate.
I would like to see those stats.  What we have today is that 85% are sober after 4 years or more.  If the kids that dropped out or failed to complete the program ended up dead insane or in jail that would really say alot.  Maybe the next study will try to focus on these kids.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2009, 10:48:19 AM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 03, 2009, 03:34:07 PM
Yes, but 85% of the graduates are still doing well after 4 years.  AA is lucky to see 5% if any success at all.  The choice is fairly simple. The Wiz can show you the way or you can try to go it alone or with AA.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2009, 04:11:21 PM
Except the kids in aarc aren't addicts most of them. Easy to cure a disease they don't have. Even at that the success rate is BS, most of the kids grow up and can drink without consequence because they weren't addicted in the first place.

Interesting that AA has a lower rate of success than natural remission, those who don't go at all.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2009, 06:56:28 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 03, 2009, 07:46:37 PM
I do see your point but 85% of the graduates are still doing well after 4 years.  Long after they have recovered from thsir stay.   AA is lucky to see 5% if any success at all. The choice is fairly simple. The Wiz can show you the way or you can try to go it alone or with AA.  Hey it rymes!!
Maybe if AARC gets more than average donations this year they can investigate stream lining the process a bit to soften it up or add more training.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2009, 08:08:14 PM
It's really a shame that so many AARC grads never learned to read or write. Who knows where you'd be if you weren't taken out of school for 1-2 years. How many times can we reiterate...

"Patton said that while the study was a good preliminary “internal evaluation” with positive results, the next step would be to review AARC’s success rate independently. He noted that the study was rejected for publication by two journals."

AARC's success rate is BS. AARC is based on a program that almost never works. Think about it.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 03, 2009, 08:35:35 PM
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It's really a shame that so many AARC grads never learned to read or write. Who knows where you'd be if you weren't taken out of school for 1-2 years. How many times can we reiterate...
Many of the kids that I have run into were not going to school anyway, so any education they received was a bonus.  But the main focus was to get them on the right track with their lives.  Anyone can always go back to school at a later date.

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"Patton said that while the study was a good preliminary “internal evaluation” with positive results, the next step would be to review AARC’s success rate independently. He noted that the study was rejected for publication by two journals."
Everyone would probably be in agreement with him.  The next step would be an independent eval.  The internal study gives you a rough “Level of the water” type of feedback.  The independent evaluation would tend to solidify the initial results and hopfully bring to the surface more of the details needed to make those decisions which would help to fine tune the process.  I wouldnt be surprised if AARC was in the process of trying to finance this as we speak.

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AARC's success rate is BS. AARC is based on a program that almost never works. Think about it.
Unfortunately the majority and the studies disagree with your conclusion.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 04, 2009, 11:10:12 AM
AARC is supposedly based on the AA model right? That model has a 5% success rate.

If AARC has been so much more successful than AA for the last 20 years then why doesn't AA change what they do to reflect the higher numbers of AARC?

Talk to some people in AA who are familiar with AARC they hate it! They resent the fact that they work for years to become an oldtimer and some kid in AARC with no life experience is an oldtimer in 8 months! Many kids from AARC are surprised to hit up AA meetings and see how it REALLY operates. The lingo is the same, but AARC has it's own way of manipulating the process.

AARC does NOT NOT NOT have an 80, 85, 86% success rate! AARC still uses the total number of grads 400 and whatever it is. Please subtract all the people who have gone on national television against AARC and those who have reported their situation to the police.

 :dose:
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 04, 2009, 08:52:18 PM
Quote from: "guest44"
AARC is supposedly based on the AA model right? That model has a 5% success rate.

If AARC has been so much more successful than AA for the last 20 years then why doesn't AA change what they do to reflect the higher numbers of AARC?
Not sure,  I would like to ask AA that one.  One difference is that people who attend AA leave after the meeting and go back to the environment which supports their drinking and drugging where Those that attend AA meetings and are part of AARC  receive support 24/7.


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Talk to some people in AA who are familiar with AARC they hate it! They resent the fact that they work for years to become an oldtimer and some kid in AARC with no life experience is an oldtimer in 8 months!
A possible solution may to call them something different from oldtimers.  Maybe “seasoned members” or create steps like stage 1, stage 2 etc. instead of classifying members as oldcomers or newcomers... but either way people shouldn’t get too hung up on titles.

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Many kids from AARC are surprised to hit up AA meetings and see how it REALLY operates. The lingo is the same, but AARC has it's own way of manipulating the process.
That difference may be what makes the AARC kids more successful.

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AARC does NOT NOT NOT have an 80, 85, 86% success rate! AARC still uses the total number of grads 400 and whatever it is. Please subtract all the people who have gone on national television against AARC and those who have reported their situation to the police.
It is interesting that those who disagree with the results of the study are those who appear to have never read it.  The study focused on 100 graduates not 400.  The results showed that 85% of those kids were still living a sober and clean life after 4 years.  It doesn’t mean they never drank or drugged.
We cannot subtract or add people to that total because it was a controlled study.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 04, 2009, 11:06:24 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 05, 2009, 12:45:56 AM
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It is interesting that those who disagree with the results of the study are those who appear to have never read it. The study focused on 100 graduates not 400. The results showed that 85% of those kids were still living a sober and clean life after 4 years. It doesn’t mean they never drank or drugged.
We cannot subtract or add people to that total because it was a controlled study.

400+ is the number of AARC graduates total.... not the numbers from the study.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 05, 2009, 04:04:58 AM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 05, 2009, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "guest44"
AARC is supposedly based on the AA model right? That model has a 5% success rate.

If AARC has been so much more successful than AA for the last 20 years then why doesn't AA change what they do to reflect the higher numbers of AARC?
Not sure,  I would like to ask AA that one.  One difference is that people who attend AA leave after the meeting and go back to the environment which supports their drinking and drugging where Those that attend AA meetings and are part of AARC  receive support 24/7.


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Talk to some people in AA who are familiar with AARC they hate it! They resent the fact that they work for years to become an oldtimer and some kid in AARC with no life experience is an oldtimer in 8 months!
A possible solution may to call them something different from oldtimers.  Maybe “seasoned members” or create steps like stage 1, stage 2 etc. instead of classifying members as oldcomers or newcomers... but either way people shouldn’t get too hung up on titles.

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Many kids from AARC are surprised to hit up AA meetings and see how it REALLY operates. The lingo is the same, but AARC has it's own way of manipulating the process.
That difference may be what makes the AARC kids more successful.

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AARC does NOT NOT NOT have an 80, 85, 86% success rate! AARC still uses the total number of grads 400 and whatever it is. Please subtract all the people who have gone on national television against AARC and those who have reported their situation to the police.
It is interesting that those who disagree with the results of the study are those who appear to have never read it.  The study focused on 100 graduates not 400.  The results showed that 85% of those kids were still living a sober and clean life after 4 years.  It doesn’t mean they never drank or drugged.
We cannot subtract or add people to that total because it was a controlled study.

Yes  400 was the total number of graduates.  I would like to see something from AA
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 05, 2009, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
I do see your point but 85% of the graduates are still doing well after 4 years.  Long after they have recovered from thsir stay.   AA is lucky to see 5% if any success at all. The choice is fairly simple. The Wiz can show you the way or you can try to go it alone or with AA.  Hey it rymes!!
Maybe if AARC gets more than average donations this year they can investigate stream lining the process a bit to soften it up or add more training.

I dont think the Wiz will try to soften the program or modify it at all.  The Wiz has an 85% success rate as it is, I couldnt see it getting any higher than that.  I believe it would be better to spend the money on reducing costs and/or increasing the population of kids.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 05, 2009, 10:14:07 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 05, 2009, 10:28:10 PM
Ya know I like "The Wiz" reference!!  I dont know who came up with that but it does suit the guy.  He really doesnt cure anyone he merely shows them that they have the power to help themselves and it is all inside of them.
You guys are fuckin right on.  Lets raise one to "thewiz" for showing us the way!!!

Hell lets raise a couple.......
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 05, 2009, 10:44:26 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
I do see your point but 85% of the graduates are still doing well after 4 years.  Long after they have recovered from thsir stay.   AA is lucky to see 5% if any success at all. The choice is fairly simple. The Wiz can show you the way or you can try to go it alone or with AA.  Hey it rymes!!
Maybe if AARC gets more than average donations this year they can investigate stream lining the process a bit to soften it up or add more training.

I dont think the Wiz will try to soften the program or modify it at all.  The Wiz has an 85% success rate as it is, I couldnt see it getting any higher than that.  I believe it would be better to spend the money on reducing costs and/or increasing the population of kids.

Ifthey could take in more kids I think that would be better money spent then trying to change anything.  They should stick with what works and expand on that not try to stream line anything.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 02:06:40 AM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
I do see your point but 85% of the graduates are still doing well after 4 years.  Long after they have recovered from thsir stay.   AA is lucky to see 5% if any success at all. The choice is fairly simple. The Wiz can show you the way or you can try to go it alone or with AA.  Hey it rymes!!
Maybe if AARC gets more than average donations this year they can investigate stream lining the process a bit to soften it up or add more training.

I dont think the Wiz will try to soften the program or modify it at all.  The Wiz has an 85% success rate as it is, I couldnt see it getting any higher than that.  I believe it would be better to spend the money on reducing costs and/or increasing the population of kids.

Ifthey could take in more kids I think that would be better money spent then trying to change anything.  They should stick with what works and expand on that not try to stream line anything.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 11:48:56 AM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 12:14:05 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved setting such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85%.
7. The program is support by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 06:20:23 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."Guest
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 06:28:00 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved setting such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85%.
7. The program is support by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 07:01:52 PM
Quote from: "guest44"
Except the kids in aarc aren't addicts most of them. Easy to cure a disease they don't have. Even at that the success rate is BS, most of the kids grow up and can drink without consequence because they weren't addicted in the first place.

Interesting that AA has a lower rate of success than natural remission, those who don't go at all.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
LOL Sometimes we hum the theme to the wizard of oz when Dr. Vause is in the room or passing in the hall and he gives us a smirk. Its funny.  I think he likes the nick name but wont admit it.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 07:06:39 PM
Quote from: "De ja vu"
Quote from: "guest44"
Except the kids in aarc aren't addicts most of them. Easy to cure a disease they don't have. Even at that the success rate is BS, most of the kids grow up and can drink without consequence because they weren't addicted in the first place.

Interesting that AA has a lower rate of success than natural remission, those who don't go at all.

Well after you leave an AA meeting you go right back to being exposed to the triggers that lead you there.  This doesnt happen to clients of AARC and that is why they experience the higher success rate.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: "Guest44"
Quote from: "De ja vu"
Quote from: "guest44"
Except the kids in aarc aren't addicts most of them. Easy to cure a disease they don't have. Even at that the success rate is BS, most of the kids grow up and can drink without consequence because they weren't addicted in the first place.

Interesting that AA has a lower rate of success than natural remission, those who don't go at all.

Well after you leave an AA meeting you go right back to being exposed to the triggers that lead you there.  This doesnt happen to clients of AARC and that is why they experience the higher success rate.

I heard that too but the wiz cant take credit for all the success of these kids.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 07:31:22 PM
He doesnt take any credit for the success rate.  He feels that the kids have the power within them and the day they take control and ownership of their lives his work is done.  The kids have the power inside them all along it just takes someone like Dr. Vause to show the kids this.  Thus the name "The Wiz".
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 08:03:23 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 08:06:07 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: "DelW"
He doesnt take any credit for the success rate.  He feels that the kids have the power within them and the day they take control and ownership of their lives his work is done.  The kids have the power inside them all along it just takes someone like Dr. Vause to show the kids this.  Thus the name "The Wiz".

Well I have seen the wiz given plenty of credit at the fund raisers and I think it is well deserved, but he is always so modest and gives the credit back to the graduates and donors.  They should have a "Wiz" party!!
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 08:19:11 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 08:41:02 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "DelW"
He doesnt take any credit for the success rate.  He feels that the kids have the power within them and the day they take control and ownership of their lives his work is done.  The kids have the power inside them all along it just takes someone like Dr. Vause to show the kids this.  Thus the name "The Wiz".

Well I have seen the wiz given plenty of credit at the fund raisers and I think it is well deserved, but he is always so modest and gives the credit back to the graduates and donors.  They should have a "Wiz" party!!

Screw the party LOL
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:11:34 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:18:13 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:23:26 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:25:47 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
I think it was the girlfriend comment that got it going.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:28:19 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethicsGuest
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:30:09 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:31:43 PM
Whoops double post for Ajax, careful.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:32:23 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:32:38 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics
12. The founder is often referred to as "The Whizz" because he likes to piss on people.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:34:38 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:36:17 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:37:52 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:39:41 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
So far, as many as 176 people may show up to protest AARC's Gala on June 4th.

http://www.aarc.ab.ca/fundraising/_Gala ... ip2009.pdf (http://www.aarc.ab.ca/fundraising/_GalaSponsorship2009.pdf)

AARC Makes a Difference  
 
Teen addiction is a societal issue that affects everyone.  Without AARC these          
adolescents may become financial, legal or moral liabilities to our communities and,
over time, huge financial burdens to our government and non-profit social systems.
 
The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre (AARC) is a unique  :roflmao:  long-term treatment centre
for teens addicted to drugs and alcohol.  Since we began operations in 1991, almost
400 young people have graduated and our clinical staff have worked with over 1,000
family members in treatment of this highly destructive but treatable condition. The
lives of our parents have been devastated while searching many avenues to help their
child.  Knowing that 85%  :roflmao: of our graduates are today sober, in school or working and
reunited with their families, gives our families hope.  
 
We can’t do it without your support.  :twofinger:

Protest:
Thursday, June 4, 2009
4:00pm - 6:00pm
Hyatt Regency
700 Centre Street SE
Calgary, AB
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: "ajax13"
Here's my favorite.  The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.  
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.  
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5lBQ&feature=related)
Doctor and preacher?  Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:42:14 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
I wonder if they'll have graduates speak again, or if Josh Penner ixnayed that idea because he thinks they all sound "brainwashed and stupid."
Can't say I blame you Josh, judging by the posts I've seen from AARC supporters:

"Time after Time. My Loyalty is to Dr Vause and It always will be, he has always stood right beside me and I will do the same for him. I trust him with my life and anyone close to me, I trust every word he says to me without a doubt my loyalty is to him 100 %"

"What AARC gave to me was the biggest gift of my life. I was a straight Ghetto Punk lookiing at life in jail, AARC took me through the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anoynomous, which is nothing more then a design for life. My opinion is that they are life skills so simple that they can better anyones life who applies them, Addict or Not. My life is good today because I use the tools given to me by AARC in my daily life and not to mention some help from my higher power... I felt like putting a big piece of shit in that chicks mouth, what a liar."     - What fantastic life skills you have!  AARC clearly turned you into a better person.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:42:27 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:44:22 PM
Keep me updated.  I will be logged on early, just working from home thats all.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:45:40 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Keep me updated.  I will be logged on early, just working from home thats all.

Yeah, thought for sure Ajax would hang in for another couple hours with the same post.  I might owe you lunch
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Keep me updated.  I will be logged on early, just working from home thats all.

Yeah, thought for sure Ajax would hang in for another couple hours with the same post.  I might owe you lunch
Ya gotta love the guy though, huh, hes got heart.  but so predictable like a light switch.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Keep me updated.  I will be logged on early, just working from home thats all.

Yeah, thought for sure Ajax would hang in for another couple hours with the same post.  I might owe you lunch
Ya gotta love the guy though, huh, hes got heart.  but so predictable like a light switch.

Oh, no, I think you might have put him into a rage.  Hope he didnt destroy his keyboard (or worse)
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 09:55:18 PM
Can we ban the samefag yet?
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 10:03:04 PM
:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Sounds like Whooter's been talking with himself again, lol.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 06, 2009, 10:23:03 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Can we ban the samefag yet?
Nah, Ajax is harmless.  I think he is having a bit of fun on a saturday night.  Lets not start Banning people.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2009, 11:15:44 PM
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethicsGuest
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 06:36:44 AM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 08:32:53 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 08:35:21 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
"There is no question that the methods used in AARC are harmful. They are derived from the attack therapy used in Synanon, and then replicated in the Seed, Straight Inc., and Kids. AARC also uses a peer group to confront, humiliate and coerce the individual to produce conformity. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term psychological damage in the those subjected to the process. These techniques were used by both the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese to extract false confessions from American servicemen for use in propaganda campaigns. It's anybody's guess as to why they are being used in AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics."
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 08:40:49 AM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.ajax13
phpBB Frequent poster
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 08:45:56 AM
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.ajax13
phpBB Frequent poster
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 10:25:27 AM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 12:34:50 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 02:08:54 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 03:09:08 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 03:25:15 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 05:48:20 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 05:56:31 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 05:58:43 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.Guest
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 06:05:10 PM
Battle of the wills... this is really good stuff....lets try to keep it going!!!










There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 06:12:52 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 06:14:31 PM
wHOA hOOO!!!

There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 06:31:42 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 06:32:46 PM
When... Now jump!!!!





There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 06:35:39 PM
Ajax!! dont you dare stop now... I command you to keep posting!!!!  Dig up some of your old suff... that was classic stuff!!!
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 06:37:02 PM
Dam it Ajax post right now... I command you!!!!
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 06:39:08 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.Guest
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 06:46:44 PM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 06:54:41 PM
Ajax I command you to post at once... anything even an old cut and paste
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 07, 2009, 08:04:47 PM
Look Ajax Dont spend your time on the relationship.  Believe me its not worth it with her.  If anyone knows I do.  Instead try to dig up some old stuff on the Wiz to try to make him look bad.  There are tons of people reading tonight.  How about the posts where you try to make everyone believe he doesnt have a degree. Thats a classic.... or the one where you make fun of the guys wifes weight issues.  That will really deter anyone from going to AARC.  or the old classic about not playing hockey in highschool... thats a slam dunk.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 08, 2009, 12:21:30 AM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2009, 01:09:41 AM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 08, 2009, 06:27:34 AM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2009, 11:08:18 AM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 08, 2009, 11:36:20 AM
There is no question that the methods used in AARC are helpful. They are derived from the same therapies used in other approved settings such as Hazelden, and then replicated in a group setting. AARC also uses a peer group to help the individual to overcome personal obstacles. Studies of these methods have demonstrated a tendency to produce long-term abstinence from drug and alcohol in those individuals who partake in the process. These techniques were used by AA but on a much smaller level and in an uncontrolled setting. Its easy to see why AARC has stuck with their current process which is yielding an 85% success rate.
1. The clients are assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC treats.
2. AARC will not accept any person unless they are  suffering from addiction.
3. The Wiz and his staff are highly qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients can be treated under one roof as the staff is capable of addressing the multiple needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are not harmful.
6. There is evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC which exceeds 85% after four years.
7. The program is supported by contributions and donations from local businesses and large corporations such as Rolex.
8. The host home system used in AARC is unique and critical to the success of AARC clients.
9. The methods used at AARC conform to all accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and have been highly successful.
10. Clients at AARC are informed that they are expected to work hard on their own sobriety and will be released from the program if their participation wanes.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification at AARC is conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are subject to all standards of professional ethics."
12.  The founder is often referred to as “The Wiz” because he has the uncanny ability to show clients that they have the strength within to heal themselves and in the end the client gets credit for their own success not AARC.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2009, 03:49:09 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2009, 01:58:02 PM
How much did AARC rake in at the Gala in the support of cultish child abusers?
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 09, 2009, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: "guest4930285"
How much did AARC rake in at the Gala in the support of cultish child abusers?

Preliminary numbers show a 21% increase from last year.  It was a nice event.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
How much did they rake in last year?
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2009, 04:17:37 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.Guest
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: TheWho on June 09, 2009, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: "guest4930285"
How much did they rake in last year?

$562,000 in 2008 was "pledged" and they received 107% of that amount.  The increase was mainly due to new marketing stategies targeting local businesses who will and have benifited directly from AARC's success.  Our larger benefactors where able to dig a little deeper also to help support the families in need who could not otherwise afford treatment.
Title: Re: AARC Gala
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2009, 06:56:48 PM
Here's my favorite. The Wiz, lying through his teeth as per usual, avoids directly answering any specific criticisms of AARC.
1. The clients are not assessed by qualified personnel to diagnose the condition AARC claims to treat.
2. AARC appears to diagnose clients as suffering from addiction when they are not.
3. The Wiz and his staff are not qualified to perform the interventions used at AARC.
4. A variety of disorders present in AARC clients go untreated as the staff is incapable of addressing the needs of the clients.
5. The methods used in AARC are harmful.
6. There is no evidence as to the number of clients in AARC who remain abstinent after graduating AARC.
7. The program takes in a vast amount of money that does not correlate with the services provided by AARC.
8. The host home system used in AARC is dangerous, and puts clients at risk of an array of abuses.
Too tough indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6jKIf5) ... re=related
Doctor and preacher? Well, he's certainly not a doctor.
9. The methods used at AARC do not conform to accepted standards of practise used by mental health professionals to treat mood disorders, and are thus experimental.
10. Clients at AARC are not informed that they are experimental subjects, and do not provide consent to be used as such.
11. The ongoing behaviour modification experiment at AARC is not conducted by practioners belonging to a professional body, thus the staff are not subject to any standard for professional ethics.