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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 25, 2009, 09:43:42 PM
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I did the stupidist thing. I'm a 13 year old guy. I got caught shoplifting 3 sex magazines at a small card store, and the cops were called on me. The owner didnt press charges and I got off with a warning. My mom was called to the store and everything, it was a nightmare. I know stealing is wrong.
When we got home she slapped me, told me to get to my room so she could calm down. In like 30 mins she came up to my room with a belt. Her eyes were red like she was crying. She said I was getting the "spanking of my life" She was very disapointed in me said I could have gotten a criminal record and my life could have been ruined. She told me to strip down and bend over the bed. She used the belt on my butt, for like 15 minutes and it was pretty hard. Then she got a hairbrush and told me to get over her lap. The second spanking lasted like 15 minutes too. I was crying so hard.
She said I was also grounded for a month, no phone, TV, computer, or hanging out with friends. After school I go to my room, and come out only to eat and use the bathroom. Total lockdown, all I can do is read. Weekends too + extra chores. My allowance is cut for 2 months.
This was the first time my mom spanked or grounded me, and I never did anything this bad ever before. I learned my lesson. She said she was sorry for slapping my face. But from now on she's going to be stricter with me, and that includes spanking and grounding.
Will my mom ever look at me the same again, will she ever trust me? I know I deserved my punishment, but is the spanking part okay and the fact that I'm getting them from now on?
p.s. My grounding starts Monday after school
2 months ago
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She's not abusive at all..... The naked part was embarassing but no one else saw me but her.
2 months ago
She's not going to stop loving me is she?
2 months ago
15 mins but she stopped now and then to lecture me
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I consider it abuse to make a child get naked in order to humiliate them. The fact she spanked you while naked can also be considered sexual abuse especially considering your age, and the fact she could've done the same to you clothed.
Do you have any markings?
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I consider it abuse to make a child get naked in order to humiliate them. The fact she spanked you while naked can also be considered sexual abuse especially considering your age, and the fact she could've done the same to you clothed.
Do you have any markings?
its a troll, Anything. Hope you are doing since escaping CC :rose: :shamrock: :rasta:
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HOOOOoooo Boy!!!
Give it time, my Avery boy. Suck it up and take yer punishment like a good stiff T-A-L-L one! You don't wanna grow up ta be no panty-waisted sissy-boy, now do ya? Pretty soon you'll be enjoying them smackeroos more'n those girlie sex mags! Har-de-har-har-har!!!
Boy it's a gittin HOT in here... Mm. Mm. Mm.
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator
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By the way Averill, send yer mom up to 616 High Street, up hee-ah in Bath, Maine. Tell 'er ta ask fer JOEY. Everybody knows me 'round here... That's J-O-E-Y, not Joe, not Joseph, but JOEY, 'cuz I'm so in touch with my INNER CHILD ever since I come clean with the Hoffman Quadrinity Process!! An' there's a lot else I'd like to come clean with yer mom, so send 'er right up hee-ah!!! Har HAR!
It's everyone's fault, but no one's ta blame ('ceptin' the kids... O' course!)
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator
P.S. Avey don' be takin' too long 'bout this 'cuz I'm 80 years old and this... er... waelllll... it don't last ferever, so hurry up yer mom KAY???
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She still loves you, dont sweat it. It was a harsh punishment but you did try to steal stuff from someone else. This could have caused you to have a record which would follow you the rest of your life. Your mom is just trying to look out for you so you have a fair start in life. Try to be honist from now on
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She still loves you, dont sweat it. It was a harsh punishment but you did try to steal stuff from someone else. This could have caused you to have a record which would follow you the rest of your life. Your mom is just trying to look out for you so you have a fair start in life. Try to be honist from now on
same person as op
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You brought this problem on yourself. Now only rape can solve it.
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You brought this problem on yourself. Now only rape can solve it.
Good program thinkin' there, Guest-o-roony! We could use someone like you at the Hyde Schools, har har!! Come look me up anytime! Have I gotta JOB fer YOOOUU!!
Seekin' the future,
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator
P.S. Avio I still ain't hear from ya mom yet! That's 616 High Street Batheroo, Maine 04530. Da name is J-O-E-Y.
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I consider it abuse to make a child get naked in order to humiliate them. The fact she spanked you while naked can also be considered sexual abuse especially considering your age, and the fact she could've done the same to you clothed.
Do you have any markings?
its a troll, Anything. Hope you are doing since escaping CC :rose: :shamrock: :rasta:
er, that's i hope youre doing "ok."
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Pretty soon you'll be enjoying them smackeroos more'n those girlie sex mags!
I can personally vouch for this.
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The spanking was way over the line, I think. Legally, it's probably abuse. Whether you want to pursue it is another option (a foster home would probably suck bad).
Next time, use the internet. Why steal magazines when you can get all the porn you want online for free!
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The spanking was way over the line, I think. Legally, it's probably abuse. Whether you want to pursue it is another option (a foster home would probably suck bad).
Next time, use the internet. Why steal magazines when you can get all the porn you want online for free!
our computer is in the living room and my mom has religous stuff all over the wall in there. Plus I am afraid of getting caught. I can hide the magazines under my shirt.
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one of my friends at GMU showed me this a while back:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1227974645 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645)
LOL.
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The spanking was way over the line, I think. Legally, it's probably abuse. Whether you want to pursue it is another option (a foster home would probably suck bad).
Next time, use the internet. Why steal magazines when you can get all the porn you want online for free!
As long as it is not done in public or to humiliate, spanking is never considered going "over the line" and no it is not abuse. Jesus christ why is everything described as abuse here, the word is so watered down it really has no meaning anymore. Maybe we should switch to the word "torture" for more of a shock effect.
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The spanking was way over the line, I think. Legally, it's probably abuse. Whether you want to pursue it is another option (a foster home would probably suck bad).
Next time, use the internet. Why steal magazines when you can get all the porn you want online for free!
As long as it is not done in public or to humiliate, spanking is never considered going "over the line" and no it is not abuse. Jesus christ why is everything described as abuse here, the word is so watered down it really has no meaning anymore. Maybe we should switch to the word "torture" for more of a shock effect.
The purpose of the troll ^^ Showing how fornitsmembers call everything abuse and torture! :feedtrolls: :beat:
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The spanking was way over the line, I think. Legally, it's probably abuse. Whether you want to pursue it is another option (a foster home would probably suck bad).
Next time, use the internet. Why steal magazines when you can get all the porn you want online for free!
As long as it is not done in public or to humiliate, spanking is never considered going "over the line" and no it is not abuse. Jesus christ why is everything described as abuse here, the word is so watered down it really has no meaning anymore. Maybe we should switch to the word "torture" for more of a shock effect.
The purpose of the troll ^^ Showing how fornitsmembers call everything abuse and torture! :feedtrolls: :beat:
I think the OP was a troll, but just in case he is not I would like to say that the spanking is not abusive and wasnt intented to humiliate you. If you got spanked for every mistake that would be one thing, but maybe your mom has a thing about porn. Keep it under your mattress like everyone else and forget about it.
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The spanking was way over the line, I think. Legally, it's probably abuse. Whether you want to pursue it is another option (a foster home would probably suck bad).
Next time, use the internet. Why steal magazines when you can get all the porn you want online for free!
As long as it is not done in public or to humiliate, spanking is never considered going "over the line" and no it is not abuse. Jesus christ why is everything described as abuse here, the word is so watered down it really has no meaning anymore. Maybe we should switch to the word "torture" for more of a shock effect.
The purpose of the troll ^^ "Showing" how fornitsmembers call everything abuse and torture! :feedtrolls: :beat:
I think the OP was a troll, but just in case he is not I would like to say that the spanking is not abusive and wasnt intented to humiliate you. If you got spanked for every mistake that would be one thing, but maybe your mom has a thing about porn. Keep it under your mattress like everyone else and forget about it.
le same troll. ^^^Let the thread die.
but
http://www.nospank.net/sexdngr.htm (http://www.nospank.net/sexdngr.htm)
http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/15157311.html (http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/15157311.html)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1522505/posts (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1522505/posts)
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2008 ... ild-abuse/ (http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/when-is-spanking-child-abuse/)
http://www.marshallnews.com/story/1524171.html (http://www.marshallnews.com/story/1524171.html)
http://www.parentdish.com/2007/03/08/mo ... -year-old/ (http://www.parentdish.com/2007/03/08/mom-and-aunt-arrested-for-spanking-12-year-old/)
in all probability, if this weren't imaginary, the severity and duration of the beating coupled that the forced nudity this would be considered an act of abuse.
If it were done in a gulag it would be considered therapy.
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in all probability, if this weren't imaginary, the severity and duration of the beating coupled that the forced nudity this would be considered an act of abuse.
If it were done in a gulag it would be considered therapy.
I sort of go along with this. It is up to individual interpretation or a result of which group you follow or subscribe to. Some would call it therapy others abuse and still others would call it discipline.
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in all probability, if this weren't imaginary, the severity and duration of the beating coupled that the forced nudity this would be considered an act of abuse.
If it were done in a gulag it would be considered therapy.
I sort of go along with this. It is up to individual interpretation or a result of which group you follow or subscribe to. Some would call it therapy others abuse and still others would call it discipline.
No. Luckily, there are clinical standards specifying what qualifies as therapy.
What a laymen's opinion on what is “therapeutic” has no bearing on that.
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in all probability, if this weren't imaginary, the severity and duration of the beating coupled that the forced nudity this would be considered an act of abuse.
If it were done in a gulag it would be considered therapy.
I sort of go along with this. It is up to individual interpretation or a result of which group you follow or subscribe to. Some would call it therapy others abuse and still others would call it discipline.
No. Luckily, there are clinical standards specifying what qualifies as therapy.
What a laymen's opinion on what is “therapeutic” has no bearing on that.
I disagree, the individual or family has the final say on whether they feel it is therapuetic, abuse or discipline.
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in all probability, if this weren't imaginary, the severity and duration of the beating coupled that the forced nudity this would be considered an act of abuse.
If it were done in a gulag it would be considered therapy.
I sort of go along with this. It is up to individual interpretation or a result of which group you follow or subscribe to. Some would call it therapy others abuse and still others would call it discipline.
No. Luckily, there are clinical standards specifying what qualifies as therapy.
What a laymen's opinion on what is “therapeutic” has no bearing on that.
I disagree, the individual or family has the final say on whether they feel it is therapuetic, abuse or discipline.
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but no "family" has the "final say" about what contitutes medical care.
No "family" has "final say" over what constitutes physical abuse, either. The final say comes from juries of their peers. The secondary say comes from D.A.s. Forcing a teenager to strip naked so you beat her/him with various objects for 30 minutes(over your lap for 15, ew) would fall under the mantle of an abusive act, legally speaking, whatever your "opinion" on it. The forced nudity, duration of the beating, the mature age of your fictional youth, the use of objects situate the act outside of the grey area of "acceptable" spanking
Because this imaginary 13 year old you have created is meant to justify nude beatings in program, let's be clear:
"The American Psychological Association believes that the use of physical punishment in institutions that care for children is unlikely to improve problem behavior and poses the risk of significant negative side-effects including poor self-esteem, hostility, and a greater tendency to use physical aggression.[28]"
So there ya go. Not "treatment."
http://www.rickross.com/reference/house/house23.html (http://www.rickross.com/reference/house/house23.html)
http://www.ylc.org/articleDetail.php?id=76&type=article (http://www.ylc.org/articleDetail.php?id=76&type=article)
Interesting exerpt from an article for you, who. Your claim that "parents" decide what is abuse, let alone medical treatment is a pathology that is singled as one of the reasons children are abused.
http://www.ylc.org/articleDetail.php?id=76&type=article (http://www.ylc.org/articleDetail.php?id=76&type=article)
"Hutchinson (the D.A.)said residents are reluctant to call authorities in such cases because of a strong belief that it's wrong to interfere in the way other parents treat their children. They "feel that children, no matter what, are really the province of the mother and everything they do is their right and their business," he said. "Someone hears a child screaming, they're not going to say anything because their thinking is that's their child, that's their business.""
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Unfortunately all your links do not relate to the discussion. The “family” has the right to define how to raise their own children in their own home. Fringe groups like no spank and the such try to force their morality on others and reach into peoples homes in an attempt to force their beliefs on others but it doesn’t work in the US, North Korea maybe. We reserve the right to raise our kids the way we deem right.
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Unfortunately all your links do not relate to the discussion. The “family” has the right to define how to raise their own children in their own home. Fringe groups like no spank and the such try to force their morality on others and reach into peoples homes in an attempt to force their beliefs on others but it doesn’t work in the US, North Korea maybe. We reserve the right to raise our kids the way we deem right.
You cant abuse you children or torture them because child abuse is illegal, but you can discipline them anyway you choose. you can yell at them, spank them, time out.... its all the parents call.
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Unfortunately all your links do not relate to the discussion. The “family” has the right to define how to raise their own children in their own home. Fringe groups like no spank and the such try to force their morality on others and reach into peoples homes in an attempt to force their beliefs on others but it doesn’t work in the US, North Korea maybe. We reserve the right to raise our kids the way we deem right.
What if I should deem it "right" to lock my kids in a closet if they do something wrong, feeding them through the door? Is that my "right" to treat another human being that way because I somehow own him/her by right of birth?
There are other, humane, ways to dicipline a child (such as withholding allowance, tv, etc).
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Unfortunately all your links do not relate to the discussion. The “family” has the right to define how to raise their own children in their own home. Fringe groups like no spank and the such try to force their morality on others and reach into peoples homes in an attempt to force their beliefs on others but it doesn’t work in the US, North Korea maybe. We reserve the right to raise our kids the way we deem right.
What if I should deem it "right" to lock my kids in a closet if they do something wrong, feeding them through the door? Is that my "right" to treat another human being that way because I somehow own him/her by right of birth?
There are other, humane, ways to dicipline a child (such as withholding allowance, tv, etc).
Actually I believe it is legal to do this. If the child kept running into traffic and there was no lock for the front door then you would have no option other than lock them in the closet until the situation could be remedied.
Some kids do not respond to allowance withholding or loss of TV. They may dig their heals in. Many shrinks encourage parents to continue withholding comforts from children until their behavior improves. A childs room can be a haven during time out periods and therefore can be stripped of everything (one by one) including the bed if need be until compliance is achieved. Sometimes kids respond quickly other times not at all. Some parents resort to spanking as a first option and others reserve it for extreme times.
None of it is abusive if handled with compassion and closely monitored to keep the child safe.
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Unfortunately all your links do not relate to the discussion. The “family” has the right to define how to raise their own children in their own home. Fringe groups like no spank and the such try to force their morality on others and reach into peoples homes in an attempt to force their beliefs on others but it doesn’t work in the US, North Korea maybe. We reserve the right to raise our kids the way we deem right.
What if I should deem it "right" to lock my kids in a closet if they do something wrong, feeding them through the door? Is that my "right" to treat another human being that way because I somehow own him/her by right of birth?
There are other, humane, ways to dicipline a child (such as withholding allowance, tv, etc).
Actually I believe it is legal to do this. .
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Well, you believe wrong
More parents go to prison for whipping their children (and minus the forced nudity!—courts don’t take well to forcing nudity on teenagers):
http://www.parentsbehavingbadly.com/200 ... enage-son/ (http://www.parentsbehavingbadly.com/2008/04/26/parents-arrested-for-whipping-and-handcuffing-teenage-son/)
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/su ... 472999_ITM (http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-3472999_ITM)
http://www.corpun.com/usd00103.htm (http://www.corpun.com/usd00103.htm)
http://blog.al.com/breaking/2009/03/ath ... child.html (http://blog.al.com/breaking/2009/03/athens_man_charged_with_child.html)
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20 ... y_whipped_ (http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20081212/ARTICLE/812120299?Title=Police_report__Man_charged_after_boy_whipped_)
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/ind ... =1&id=4142 (http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=4142)
http://www.whnt.com/news/whnt-christy-r ... 6640.story (http://www.whnt.com/news/whnt-christy-ricks-child-abuse-arrest,0,6696640.story)
http://www.eagletribune.com/archivesear ... 04522.html (http://www.eagletribune.com/archivesearch/local_story_037004522.html)
this one I think isn’t abuse, actually:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manc ... 584446.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7584446.stm)
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:oWU ... clnk&gl=us (http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:oWUWni4bZUwJ:www.theweeklyvice.com/2008/11/jessica-muniz-anthony-badalamenti.html+child+abuse+arrest+whipping&cd=18&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/ne ... Pastor.htm (http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2003_01_06/2003_05_31_Lake_FormerPastor.htm)
http://www.sanduskyregister.com/article ... 898034.txt (http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2008/09/16/front/898034.txt)
http://www.examiner.com/a-1074838~Fathe ... _cord.html (http://www.examiner.com/a-1074838~Father_pleads_guilty_to_whipping_sons_with_electrical_cord.html)
For whipping his kid with a hose , punching him and inflicting mental abuse by being “too controlling,” this guy went to prison for life :http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080605/A_NEWS02/80605034
This guy went to prison for doing in real life what you describe in your fictional story,(whipping for shoplifting) minus the nude BDSM component:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/Mar/2 ... shing-son/ (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/Mar/24/father-pleads-guilty-after-lashing-son/)
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-93974693.html (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-93974693.html)
I actually don’t consider the abuse described in those links a big deal, whatsoever. It's really nothing compared to what goes on in programs like Academy at Swift River, CEDU, Carlbrook or Hidden Lake Academy.
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Unfortunately all your links do not relate to the discussion. The “family” has the right to define how to raise their own children in their own home. Fringe groups like no spank and the such try to force their morality on others and reach into peoples homes in an attempt to force their beliefs on others but it doesn’t work in the US, North Korea maybe. We reserve the right to raise our kids the way we deem right.
Fortunately my links realte to the discussion perfectly
the links totally relate to the discussion link # 1:
“The outspoken Rev and four followers were convicted of cruelty to children for whippings at his church. “
“”During the trial, Allen acknowledged parents brought children to the plain-brick church for punishment.””
…. Six more House of Prayer members, including the parents of a boy who was whipped, still face trial,”
Again, i don't consider this sort of abuse too bad, its certainly not in the league of the torture inside Carlbrook or CEDU or Academy at Swift River
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So sticking to "just spanking" there are no laws which prohibit parents from disciplining their own children this way. If you would like to have people with the "No spank" mentality come into your home and try to tell you how to raise your children, be my guest. You will be one step closer to living in North Korea. Then we will have "No Smoke" for not smoking in the house. Then "No Yell" for no yelling in the house. Then the "No Oral" group for those who oppose oral sex, finally the "No Music" group for those who oppose music in the households after 9:00 pm.
Maybe you could convince the "nospank" people to push to have cameras placed inside everyones home to enforce their beliefs. Sounds like the Taliban doesnt it?
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So sticking to "just spanking" there are no laws which prohibit parents from disciplining their own children this way. If you would like to have people with the "No spank" mentality come into your home and try to tell you how to raise your children, be my guest. You will be one step closer to living in North Korea. Then we will have "No Smoke" for not smoking in the house. Then "No Yell" for no yelling in the house. Then the "No Oral" group for those who oppose oral sex, finally the "No Music" group for those who oppose music in the households after 9:00 pm.
Maybe you could convince the "nospank" people to push to have cameras placed inside everyones home to enforce their beliefs. Sounds like the Taliban doesnt it?
What are you talking about? This thread is about whether its abuse to strip a 13 year old naked and whip him with a brush or belt for half an hour, or if whipping is abuse.
Whether any form of spanking is abuse is another story. You are a strange troll, who. As far as I can see, you have no goal in your writing except to confuse the casual reader.
And the "no music" crazies were guards at CEDU and Carlbrook, not Nospank
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Whether any form of spanking is abuse is another story.
I think we all know it is not abuse to spank your child whether it be with your hand or foreign object. The same as it isnt abusive to allow your child listen to loud music even though it is hurting their ears (or is it?)
The "no spank" people want you to "believe" it is abusive to further their cause. Their next step is to try to enforce it by placing cameras in your home. Then they will expand into others areas of controlling and monitoring your life. These people are very dangerous.
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The "no spank" people want you to "believe" it is abusive to further their cause. Their next step is to try to enforce it by placing cameras in your home. Then they will expand into others areas of controlling and monitoring your life. These people are very dangerous.
I think you're a little paranoid there. The constitution protects us from that kind of thing. I would agree that even if spanking were illegal, it would be largely unenforceable. Kids, as much as they don't like their parents, would be unlikely to report them to the cops for a spanking (and I doubt the cops would care). Existing child abuse laws are probably as good as they can to prevent abuse in the home (but sadly, they don't seem to apply to programs... where if you call it "therapy" you can get away with pretty much anything).
Is spanking always abuse? Probably not. Does it work? Probably not. Is spanking a naked kid with a hairbrush (very painful) for extended periods of time abuse? Probably, but again, it's unlikely the kid is going to report his own parents.
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I don't think a swat on the ass with the palm of the hand is abusive. Fully clothed ass by the way, and not butt swinging free to the breeze. I do think that making a kid strip down to wail on his butt with a belt is a bit psycho and I'd be seriously questioning the Mother's mental state. I'd also call it abusive both physically and emotionally. Regardless if anyone was around or not the boy, mythical or not, would still incur some serious humiliation.
I guess the thing to remember is that spankings can go from a quick physical reminder, in the form of a smack on the ass, to abusive, in the form of a nude belting to the butt, in a manner of seconds.
Personally, while I don't think the smack on the butt is abusive I do think people ought to be very careful to make sure they don't go over the line. For the child's sake and their own given what a pack of howling scum most CPS workers tend to be these days.
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It is NOT okay for a parent to ask their teenage child to "strip down" for a spanking, no matter what is being used belt/or brush. This parent obviously reacted emotionally to an upsetting situation, and should have taken a longer break to calm down before carrying out a punishment. I think the length of time involved in the actual "punishment" here is a bit much as well, although the OP doesn't go into detail about the amount of force used, or whether welts or bruising were results of this action.
There is a fine line between punishment and abuse, and the only person that can define whether the line was crossed based on the information given, is the person involved. If the OP feels as if they've been abused, they need to talk to someone objective about it. School counselor, pastor, someone with the capacity to provide help and not make the situation worse by taking one side or the other automatically.
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Spanking with or without clothes is a crime in Denmark and can be punished with up to one month in jail unless other things turn up during the investigation. Then it can get worse.
Just last week a couple of parents got a year in jail (http://http://translate.google.dk/translate?prev=hp&hl=da&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nordjyske.dk%2Faalborg%2Fforside.aspx%3Fctrl%3D10%26data%3D28%252c3244410%252c5%252c3&sl=da&tl=en) for having their daughter doing chores outside without proper clothing and locking her up in a dog cage as they do in programs.
If I had been the mother and a peer court (http://http://www.youthcourt.net/) was a possibility I would have chosen for him to take his punishment so he could learn his lesson without getting a record. It may sound harsh with community service and a letter of apology to the store owner, but it will send a good signal. When time served, I would ask to some of the allowence in return for purchase of skin-photos on the net, if that is what the son need.
Corporal punishment teach only use of violence and I think that we have enough of it in the world already.
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Pbbbtt... Whatever happened to making the boy return the spanky mags in person? The utter embarrassment from that alone is likely enough to keep him online surfing for porn for years to come.
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Pbbbtt... Whatever happened to making the boy return the spanky mags in person? The utter embarrassment from that alone is likely enough to keep him online surfing for porn for years to come.
My mom put them on the top shelf of her bedroom closet.
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It is NOT okay for a parent to ask their teenage child to "strip down" for a spanking, no matter what is being used belt/or brush. This parent obviously reacted emotionally to an upsetting situation, and should have taken a longer break to calm down before carrying out a punishment. I think the length of time involved in the actual "punishment" here is a bit much as well, although the OP doesn't go into detail about the amount of force used, or whether welts or bruising were results of this action.
There is a fine line between punishment and abuse, and the only person that can define whether the line was crossed based on the information given, is the person involved. If the OP feels as if they've been abused, they need to talk to someone objective about it. School counselor, pastor, someone with the capacity to provide help and not make the situation worse by taking one side or the other automatically.
Hurrikayne, the OP was thewho. His aim, IMO, is to show that there is no “such thing as abuse,” it’s all relative, and that anyone saying they were tortured is dismissible because that’s just a “matter of opinion.”
Whether an act is abusive or not act isn’t opinion. Medically and legally these issues are considered objective.
Legally, once you leave marks on a kid, use implements with force, force nudity on him(a teen especially), and beat him for a long period of time, you can face abuse charges, if you are caught doing so.
The wall of links on the other post are to parents who abused, but did not cause serious injury to their kids, in a similar manner to the fictional story invented by who, They were all charged and convicted of abuse. In several cases, the beaten youngsters didn’t want their parent prosecuted—these things aren’t “matters of opinion.”
Child Physical Abuse Definition -
The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect defines child physical abuse as:
"The physical injury or maltreatment of a child under the age of eighteen by a person who is responsible for the child's welfare under circumstances which indicate that the child's health or welfare is harmed or threatened."
Examples of Physical Abuse include:
Beating with a belt, shoe, or other object.
Biting a child.
Burning a child with matches or cigarettes.
Kicking a child.
Not letting a child eat, drink, or use the bathroom.
Pulling a child's hair out.
Punching a child.
Scalding a child with water that is too hot.
Shaking, shoving or slapping a child.
The parent or caretaker need not have intended to hurt the child for it to constitute physical abuse.
NOTE: Every state has, in its child protection laws, a definition, often more specific than this general definition.
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How could you possibly know the OP was thewho when you do not even have a login name? Only admins could get this information and they couldnt even send this to you because you dont have a registered email or PM with Fornits.
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How could you possibly know the OP was thewho when you do not even have a login name? Only admins could get this information and they couldnt even send this to you because you dont have a registered email or PM with Fornits.
It's called a guess, dipshit.
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Okay, for the sake of argument, let us assume it is the Who. What is the result of the question? It got everyone thinking and talking about the scenario.
If it is NOT the Who? Well then, we've enlightened someone that the scenario portrayed definitely is NOT okay.
And no one was harmed in the asking, or responding of said questionable scenario.
Have a nice day!
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How could you possibly know the OP was thewho when you do not even have a login name? Only admins could get this information and they couldnt even send this to you because you dont have a registered email or PM with Fornits.
It's called a guess, dipshit.
Actually, dick breath, if the poster was making a quess they would have said the “op sounds like the who”or “I think it is thewho” or “it was probably thewho”... something along those lines but the guest said:
Hurrikayne, the OP was thewho.......
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Okay, for the sake of argument, let us assume it is the Who. What is the result of the question? It got everyone thinking and talking about the scenario.
If it is NOT the Who? Well then, we've enlightened someone that the scenario portrayed definitely is NOT okay.
And no one was harmed in the asking, or responding of said questionable scenario.
Have a nice day!
I agree, the spanking discussion was a good one and I think guidelines should be laid out on what is abusive and what is not. The question of whether organizations can be formed like nospank who can form close nit groups and their own opinions and then try to dictate and reach into people homes and try to control how people raise their kids is way out of line for me.
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Okay, for the sake of argument, let us assume it is the Who. What is the result of the question? It got everyone thinking and talking about the scenario.
If it is NOT the Who? Well then, we've enlightened someone that the scenario portrayed definitely is NOT okay.
And no one was harmed in the asking, or responding of said questionable scenario.
Have a nice day!
I agree, the spanking discussion was a good one and I think guidelines should be laid out on what is abusive and what is not. The question of whether organizations can be formed like nospank who can form close nit groups and their own opinions and then try to dictate and reach into people homes and try to control how people raise their kids is way out of line for me.
I was unaware nospank was pushing to outlaw spanking. Are you saying that's the case?
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I was unaware nospank was pushing to outlaw spanking. Are you saying that's the case?
Nospank takes the position that children should no longer be excluded from the legal protections against assault and battery that apply to adults.
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I was unaware nospank was pushing to outlaw spanking. Are you saying that's the case?
Nospank takes the position that children should no longer be excluded from the legal protections against assault and battery that apply to adults.
That makes sense. But the problem is enforcing it. How is it even possible? If it means, as our troll friend suggested, putting a camera in every home or some sort of "raising your kid" inspector person, it's probably not worth it. The CPS are nazis as it is. I tend to agree with the program side that the government should have no business raising kids. Where I differ is that I believe that kids should be able to assert certain natural rights that are not protected at the moment (or at least not enforced), such as the right to refuse treatment. Minors, at a certain age, can refuse medical treatment, but somehow that's not the case with programs since they operate in sort of a mushy middleground where they claim that it's "emotional growth" and not technically treatment.
If a procedure undertaken while a minor (such as thought reform) has effects lasting into adulthood, it's essentially an adult decision and as such, something that requires consent of the particular person (even if a minor at the time) to undergo. What programs do is not a tiny thing. Programs do change personalities, but the change is hardly gentle, hardly humane, and hardly ethical, especially when it is done without fully informed consent... and it tends to backfire even when it does "work"... Probably has something to do with the fact that you can't "help" people if they don't want your help.
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I did the stupidist thing. I'm a 13 year old guy. I got caught shoplifting 3 sex magazines at a small card store, and the cops were called on me. The owner didnt press charges and I got off with a warning. My mom was called to the store and everything, it was a nightmare. I know stealing is wrong.
When we got home she slapped me, told me to get to my room so she could calm down. In like 30 mins she came up to my room with a belt. Her eyes were red like she was crying. She said I was getting the "spanking of my life" She was very disapointed in me said I could have gotten a criminal record and my life could have been ruined. She told me to strip down and bend over the bed. She used the belt on my butt, for like 15 minutes and it was pretty hard. Then she got a hairbrush and told me to get over her lap. The second spanking lasted like 15 minutes too. I was crying so hard.
She said I was also grounded for a month, no phone, TV, computer, or hanging out with friends. After school I go to my room, and come out only to eat and use the bathroom. Total lockdown, all I can do is read. Weekends too + extra chores. My allowance is cut for 2 months.
This was the first time my mom spanked or grounded me, and I never did anything this bad ever before. I learned my lesson. She said she was sorry for slapping my face. But from now on she's going to be stricter with me, and that includes spanking and grounding.
Will my mom ever look at me the same again, will she ever trust me? I know I deserved my punishment, but is the spanking part okay and the fact that I'm getting them from now on?
p.s. My grounding starts Monday after school
2 months ago
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She's not abusive at all..... The naked part was embarassing but no one else saw me but her.
2 months ago
She's not going to stop loving me is she?
2 months ago
15 mins but she stopped now and then to lecture me
Sounds like she was terribly aroused by her sexualized young man :seg2:
I'm jealous as shit! She should've figged you too.