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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on March 04, 2009, 09:27:31 PM
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Tuesday, March 3, 2009
Sue Scheff Announces Second Book - "Google Bomb!"
“GOOGLE BOMB” Take Cover! by John Dozier and Sue Scheff
Do you know what Google is saying about you?
Oh yes, it is almost here, my second book! This time around, I am honored to have co-author and Internet Specialist Attorney, John Dozier .
As my story of my landmark case of $11.3M jury verdict for damages unravels - many questions answers, John Dozier will bring us the legal landscape of today’s Cyber World - how to protect your online image and maintain a profile you are proud of! Have you thought about Internet Gossip vs Internet Fact? How do you know the difference? Don’t get caught in the web - read Google Bomb!
To compound our dynamic and explosive upcoming best seller - Michael Fertik, CEO and Founder of ReputationDefender will be writing the foreword! ReputationDefender is one of the pioneers in managing online reputations and helping keep your kids privacy safe online.
This timely book will offer you tools and remedies as well as a very compelling story that will keep you turning those pages! Remember, a 20 year reputation today can be destroyed within 20 minutes of vicious keystrokes.
Monkeys Don’t Fly? Do they? Ahhhh, just wait and you will see - the Internet has become its’ own animal. The Internet can be an educational tool - but - it can also be a lethal weapon!
Published by Health Communications Inc. (HCI) - Google Bomb will be released in Fall 2009.
Posted by Sue Scheff at 7:46 AM :deal: :deal:
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Sheeeeah! Jeeeeeeeeeeeez, can you say biased???????????????????
Commenting on the book deal, Dozier said “I am thrilled to be working with HCI in telling the story of the attacks that are ruining people, their families, and their businesses overnight. It is gratifying to offer solutions that can really help people immediately. We are facing an onslaught of venom that is like a plague sweeping the country. It has to end. And it has to be stopped. It is time for a ‘tell all’, and Sue and I do just that. We want to change people’s lives so they don’t have to walk around looking over their shoulder.”
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Ah hell.....shoulda known........................
HCI is a pioneer in the self-help field with its roots in the life-changing Chicken Soup for the Soul, 101 Stories,
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Sheeeeah! Jeeeeeeeeeeeez, can you say biased???????????????????
And yet... the header above his blog reads (color emphasis mine):
"Dozier Internet Law, PC
John W. Dozier, Jr., Esq., President of Dozier Internet Law PC (PEER ratings: "AV" by Martindale Hubbell, "Legal Elite in Intellectual Property" by Virginia Business Magazine and Virginia Bar Association, "SuperLawyer" by Superlawyer Magazine, and member of the Bar Register of Preeminent Attorneys in the law of the Internet), offers an unbiased, balanced perspective on the Law of the Internet."
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I am against programs but I got to side with Scheff on this one. You have to standup and defend yourself when people slander your reputation. She sued a program and did a lot of work to fight abuse. I know she refers kids to other programs and I hope she reconsiders doing that one day. But any one fighting abuse in programs in some way is on the right side. There's been enough divisiveness on this topic amongst various anti abuse advocates and that's a shame. People seem more willing to fight people on their own side than go after the people really doing the evil deeds. I got to wonder if this isn't just an internet hobby for most 'advocates' because Scheff is the only one I see out there on TV with regularity. Just because one program parent sued another one doesn't make me dismiss the good that they do. Let's all work together and stop criticizing each other and work against people on the other side who deserve the attention a lot more.
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His self-descriptive blurb says it all (color emphasis mine):
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Welcome to the Dozier Internet Law blog, our little corner of the web. Online legal commentary is ultra-liberal and often fueled by prejudices and passions of the lawyer commentators and not reality. If you are looking for a balanced, well reasoned, realistic approach to the law of the web, and how to deal with and solve legal issues relating to online commerce, we offer that balance. Our law firm, Dozier Internet Law, represents business interests on the web. Sometimes we represent businesses that are victims of intellectual property theft or defamatory attacks, and just as often we represent recipients of "cease and desists" and lawsuit defendants. And if we are considered by some to be the thought leaders of the conservative, pro-business interests, then so be it. But at Dozier Internet Law you'll get the unbiased perspective and advice from highly seasoned and experienced Internet law experts. Visit us online at the Dozier Internet Law website or Dozier Internet Law on Defamation and Dozier Internet Law on Web Startups, both videos available through Youtube.com...[/list]
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I am against programs but I got to side with Scheff on this one. You have to standup and defend yourself when people slander your reputation.
Slander/liable was never proven. She sued another program parent who was displaced by Hurricane Katrina at time of trial. The defendant wasn't even served with Notice of Hearing, as they couldn't locate her and went to trial ANYWAY. Sue Scheff "won" by default and it was bullshit at that as evidenced by the no-Notice. Appalling.
She sued a program and did a lot of work to fight abuse.
Bullshit! She started bad-mouthing some programs in order to promote her "safe" programs that were ANYTHING BUT safe!!!
I know she refers kids to other programs and I hope she reconsiders doing that one day.
Wow...I'm sure the kids she's had a part in shipping off hope she reconsiders too. ::) :twofinger:
But any one fighting abuse in programs in some way is on the right side.
That's preposterous.
There's been enough divisiveness on this topic amongst various anti abuse advocates and that's a shame. People seem more willing to fight people on their own side than go after the people really doing the evil deeds. I got to wonder if this isn't just an internet hobby for most 'advocates' because Scheff is the only one I see out there on TV with regularity.
Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. She's the only one on TV!!!! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: Yeah, that matters. Wow.
Just because one program parent sued another one doesn't make me dismiss the good that they do. Let's all work together and stop criticizing each other and work against people on the other side who deserve the attention a lot more.
Bite. My. Ass.
:fuckoff: :moon:
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I am against programs but I got to side with Scheff on this one. You have to standup and defend yourself when people slander your reputation.
Slander/liable was never proven. She sued another program parent who was displaced by Hurricane Katrina at time of trial. The defendant wasn't even served with Notice of Hearing, as they couldn't locate her and went to trial ANYWAY. Sue Scheff "won" by default and it was bullshit at that as evidenced by the no-Notice. Appalling.
She sued a program and did a lot of work to fight abuse.
Bullshit! She started bad-mouthing some programs in order to promote her "safe" programs that were ANYTHING BUT safe!!!
I know she refers kids to other programs and I hope she reconsiders doing that one day.
Wow...I'm sure the kids she's had a part in shipping off hope she reconsiders too. ::) :twofinger:
But any one fighting abuse in programs in some way is on the right side.
That's preposterous.
There's been enough divisiveness on this topic amongst various anti abuse advocates and that's a shame. People seem more willing to fight people on their own side than go after the people really doing the evil deeds. I got to wonder if this isn't just an internet hobby for most 'advocates' because Scheff is the only one I see out there on TV with regularity.
Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. She's the only one on TV!!!! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: Yeah, that matters. Wow.
Just because one program parent sued another one doesn't make me dismiss the good that they do. Let's all work together and stop criticizing each other and work against people on the other side who deserve the attention a lot more.
Bite. My. Ass.
:fuckoff: :moon:
Wow, you're kind of mean, aren't you? I'm not going to bother responding since it's obvious you aren't interested in dialogue, you are just trying to start an argument. Sorry but you'll have to find someone else to play your games, I have better things to do. Try being more respectful next time and I might respond, geeze louise..........
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I expected as much. Par for the course for your kind.
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She sued a program and did a lot of work to fight abuse. I know she refers kids to other programs and I hope she reconsiders doing that one day. But any one fighting abuse in programs in some way is on the right side.
I think if you didn't know anything about Sue Scheff, it might well look that way at first glance. But Sue's "work" against abuse is PURE-ly incidental to her real modus operandi, namely self-promotion and greed for getting her share of the pie in the TTI.
As such, any "good" cannot really be trusted, since it could well be reversed at any moment, depending on which way the wind blows in her jockeying for prime recognition as "a being of importance" and in the slandering of her "enemies."
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Need I remind how Sue has libeled me, Ginger, Shelby Earnshaw, Joyce Harris, Carey Bock, and the list goes on and on and on. On the other side, on sites like mine ( sueschefftruth.com (http://http://www.sueschefftruth.com) ) there is only truthful information (and opinion) about her.
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I know she refers kids to other programs and I hope she reconsiders doing that one day.
Actually, she continues to refer kids to the programs she apparently had such an issue with.. i.e. WWASPS. So, when you say "other", you mean "the exact same program" then you are right.
I think this whole issue should be filed under "massive, whiny butthurt"
and if calling someone to the carpet for being a liar is libel.. well... we're all screwed.
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I know she refers kids to other programs and I hope she reconsiders doing that one day.
Actually, she continues to refer kids to the programs she apparently had such an issue with.. i.e. WWASPS. So, when you say "other", you mean "the exact same program" then you are right.
That was true at one point (she was WWASP's referral queen), but I don't think it is anymore. Still. Whitmore Academy, her favorite program to refer to, was cited by the GAO as the worst of the worst.
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Top Ten Blogger Personas: The Mobosphere Unveiled
Ever since Congress passed Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act giving immunity to interactive service providers for publishing the defamation of others, a wide range of characters has arisen and infiltrated the mainstream blogosphere. Instead of becoming a source for obtaining reliable information, the blogosphere, and user generated content, is at risk of becoming a less credible information source. Dozier Internet Law defamation lawyers are constantly battling these "black hat" forces and over the past several years we have acquired quite an insight into this underworld; an anonymous and covert society bent on terrorizing businesses. These are our internal thoughts on the matter, and not scientific analyses. We are not psychiatrists; just defamation lawyers and trial lawyers trained for almost fifty years to figure out the human nature of clients, witnesses, and juries.
All too often blog attacks are simply protection rackets and extortion schemes in disguise. We have been working on documenting the organizational structure and operational methodologies used by these racketeers. For now, let's take a look at the entire panoply of characters we seem, as business defamation lawyers, to run into. For those businesses under attack, it is essential that you first identify the publisher's persona and motivation before beginning to identify the proper strategies for addressing his often seemingly legitimate posts. We don't go into details on how we work with clients to deal with each type of personality, but the tools vary considerably from being passive, to utilizing SEO services, to implementing reputation management initiatives, to pre-litigation and lawsuit actions.
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1. Pickpocket
This is the guy who used to wait on street corners for elderly ladies to pass. He enjoys attacking defenseless people and stealing covertly using deception. This type of blogger will steal your copyright protected content, have the search engines push your prospective clients to his site, and then run ads and otherwise direct the traffic to your competitors. He could be an affiliate marketer for a competitor getting a share of the revenue, or he could simply be running Google or Yahoo ads on his site. Pickpockets also take great pleasure in stealing your trademarks...surreptitiously using your mark in hidden tags, meta tags, hidden redirect pages, or through a myriad of search engine optimization techniques, all in the hopes of re-directing your prospects to a competitor and taking money from you.
2. Wacko
We usually identify a wacko situation quickly. There are distinctive characteristics of his communications. The wacko is usually a "follower", someone looking to gain attention and recognition, but escalates what may have started as fair criticism into more and more outrageous claims. Most sophisticated business people immediately view the poster as a "nut case", particularly when an excessive amount of time or energy disproportionate to the merits of the subject is expended. But it is not easy for the typical browser on the web to see the pattern, usually spread over multiple web properties.
3. Druggie
Or, maybe "liquid courage" would be more appropriate. This guy is exactly what comes to mind. During the day this blogger is a normal guy, but at night he returns to the sanctity of his home, gets drunk or high, and goes out on the web looking for "hook-ups" and blogging on his "hang-ups". This guy is hard to detect as a fraudster, and sometimes won't recall what he said online the next day while under the influence. He posts aggressive, false and arbitrary attacks on whatever issue of the day (or night) catches his fancy.
4. Alien
No, not from another world. But from overseas. In a far, far away place, without any treaty with the US, in a country without an effective legal system and no notion of business or personal property ownership rights. Many of these types operate out of certain Russian provinces, but the blogs, postings and communications appear to be from the customer down the street. This individual usually has an ulterior motive, often working with the criminal discussed below. He has no fear, until he takes a vacation to Turkey and US federal agents grab him for extradition, which is exactly what happened on a case in the not so recent past.
5. Nerd
This is the guy who is scared to talk with a girl, but behind the keyboard, all alone, morphs into a Casanova. This empowerment of anonymity creates an omnipotent persona, and for the first time the nerd feels the effect of power and control, gets an adrenaline buzz when he exercises it, and he exercises it often, usually creating or perpetuating a volatile situation in which he feels he can outsmart the "opposition". There is no principle involved. His blog postings are all about the adrenaline. It is hard to know if you are dealing with this type online...his posts are intelligent and on their face credible. But, once you identify the nerd blogger, he cowers and goes away, usually forever.
6. Rookie
Enjoy debating a thirteen year old? They are out on the net acting like adults, posting statements and play-acting like a grown-up. The challenge, of course, is that most people reading the posts have no idea these are coming from a kid. The tip off can be the utter immaturity of the posts, but most often the kids can sound credible criticizing, for instance, a CPA's method of calculating RIO on REIT holdings, because they can mimic earlier posts. There is no insidious motive here; just kids having fun as the hormones kick in. But the readers of the blog posting don't know that.
7. Sadist
This person attacks others, causes pain, and revels in the results in ways not worthy of mention. He loves to create, direct, control, and unleash a firestorm of criticism about a company just to create pain and damage. This type of person may often by the prime instigator of the online attacks, and tightens the noose by escalating the attack rapidly, almost as if in an obsessive state. You will find a sadist going to many sites and blogging, and he usually lets you know it was him because he uses his real moniker. He has characteristics of a stalker, and he is most likely to be the one that starts recommending direct physical violence against the executives of a company. This person is not motivated by money, but by the pure enjoyment of pain being visited upon innocent parties.
8. BankruptNo, not morally bankrupt. Actually bankrupt...no money, no assets, no prospects for work, and nothing to lose. These bloggers post without fear of the consequences or any regard for the truth because you "can't get blood out of a turnip", you "can't get water from a rock", and all these other sayings handed down, we surmise, through his generations. This is usually not a smart guy, but his postings are damaging and inflammatory. Many will own and control blogs without any concern about the consequences of liabilities that might arise through the perpetuation and "enhancement" of posts, and sometimes will post to their own blog and act like it was from a third party.
9. Criminal
Career criminals, no less. Like the convicted felon running a sophisticated extortion scheme against a very prominent business. Or the owner of an open blog avoiding service of process with guard dogs protecting his compound. The thieves and crooks of the world are online today; and the criminals often have both an organization and a highly effective and surprisingly coordinated operational plan in place to target a business. Rumors of $500,000 a year payoffs seem to promote this problem, which emanates from more of a "mobosphere" than the blogosphere.
10. Mis-Leader
This person is in no manner a leader. This blogger has a hidden agenda, but he just makes it sound like he is a totally objective commentator. He can create an appearance of authority and the casual visitor to his blog does not question the legitimacy. This type of persona is hard to figure out. One of the most pervasive practices is to control a blog and allow negative posts against all except his generous advertisers. Another common technique involves omission; not disclosing conflicts of interest or the existence of a business or personal relationship because the readers of the blog would totally discount the commentator's posts as unreliable and biased.
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In closing, most of the blogosphere is legitimate, offers honest opinions and comments that add value to an open dialogue, and is an excellent example of the exercise of constitutionally protected free speech. As business defamation lawyers, we seen another side. The "mobosphere", on the other hand, operates outside of the spotlight and often uses reckless, irresponsible, false and defamatory statements for personal or professional gain, all too often focused on self gratification and pecuniary benefits. As businesses attempt to leverage user generated content ("UGC") into a valuable tool in the Web 2.0 environment, the proliferation of the scofflaws interrupting the free flow of credible speech in the online world puts at risk the reputation and integrity of UGC and raises the very real risk that consumers will begin viewing web content with disdain and suspicion.
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Somebody needs to ask Mr Dozier which category he thinks Scheff's blogs on myself and Psy and Cristian and Ginger and Shelby and Joyce belong in; Really - which one is she - according to the expert opinion of Mr John Dozier?
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Okay, I'm not sure how some of these items could be considered illegal or case-worthy. Specifically, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, and 10. some of the others are a gray area at best.
Ironically enough, Sue Scheff herself, as well as Lon Woodbury, are definitely number 10s. They omit information, delete posts, and intentionally mislead.
As far as I'm concerned, the only people who are worthy of legal action are phishers, domain snipers and poachers, and those who put malicious script and code on their websites which will download nasties such as spyware, trojans, rootkits and keyloggers onto your machine.
Everything else, as far as Im concerned, is a-ok.
There are some choice neo-nazi sites that post deliberate lies about martin luther king, jr. And some religious right sites that post lies about AIDS and birth control. Yet the last time I checked, they were still around. Sounds like this legislation is predictably arbitrary.
FAIL! ::fullofshit::
Thanks for the post, though. Good info to have.
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Well, as he has said elsewhere, he is pro-business, and anti-public advocacy when it gets in the way of business. Whatever "the truth" is -- re. whatever people are blogging about -- would appear to be but incidental.
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About this:
As far as I'm concerned, the only people who are worthy of legal action are . . . those who put malicious script and code on their websites which will download nasties such as spyware, trojans, rootkits and keyloggers onto your machine.
Is it possible to determine if a site has this code? I have found some nasty stuff on my machine after looking at Scheff's blogs. I have wondered if BK DeLong might have helped her set it up. He might have the expertise and malice required.
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About this: As far as I'm concerned, the only people who are worthy of legal action are . . . those who put malicious script and code on their websites which will download nasties such as spyware, trojans, rootkits and keyloggers onto your machine.
Is it possible to determine if a site has this code? I have found some nasty stuff on my machine after looking at Scheff's blogs. I have wondered if BK DeLong might have helped her set it up. He might have the expertise and malice required.
There are several things you can do:
1. Use firefox.
2. Install the Firefox add-on, No-Script (major awesomeness)
3. Install the Firefox add-on CS Lite. (a cookie manager. good to minimize tracking cookies)
4. Install the Firefox add-on WOT (Web of trust. user-based database that rates every visited website and every link shown by four criteria, trustworthiness, vendor reliability, privacy and child friendly) Every link or webpage is color coded based on ratings. If it is a dangerous site, you will be blocked from visiting it at first, and it gives you a choice to go ahead and go to the site, or not.)
and just for convenience.. I'd install Ad Blocker Plus as well. It's nice to visit sites and not have to wait for all of the ads to load.
The other thing is to have an anti-spyware program that does real-time monitoring. Spyware Doctor is good for this, and so is Zone Alarm Pro. (a firewall, but it does a lot of other things, too.) Also, best not to have overlap. For example, I have ad blocking and bug blocking disabled on my install of Zone Alarm, because I find Ad Blocker Plus and script blocker do a great job of this, especially because you can toggle settings on-the-fly.
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ooooohhh my gaaaaaawd!
This guy.... :roflmao:
is ridiculous!!
Where did she find this nut-case?
Is he REALLY a lawyer?....?.... Where did he get his degree?... the internet? lololololol.
some of these concepts are just retarded, I mean seriously you have to be a certain special kind of dumb to take any of this seriously! Let alone use it as a "how to" guide to take legal action against "nerds" on the internet.
Free Speech will always be free and we will always have the right to call people out on their bullshit. GET USED TO IT!!
I have never made it a point to talk about Sue Scheff, in fact that whole thing confused me but if the subject arises I have no problem callin it how I see it. If her purpose has been to fight abuse in the Troubled Teen Industry why has she been spending so much time obsessing on what people say about her. If its not true than she should be able to prove that and not worry about it, but when people are simply referring to the PUBLIC FACTS there is nothing she can do to combat that. I find it funny that she has gone from the woman who won the lawsuit FOR free speech to the woman who is suing people AGAINST free speech.
You know this would all be solved if she spent less time worrying about what people said about her and more time properly investigating and regulating the schools that she refers to. The fact that she doesn't, is the real crime, because unlike these "nerds" that put her "oh so fragile" reputation on the line, She is putting these teens LIVES on the line. Get your priorities straight Sue, and maybe we wont have anything to talk about.
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You aren't confused at all. You nailed it.
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blah blah blah........
Same as it ever was.
$ $ $
An industry financially hemorrhaging like a stuck pig???
Hmmm. Who casually sits by and idly watches the carnage reveal itself?
You can be sure there will be a million and 1 lawyers to find a way to sue Henry Ford and his "Model T" for 'destroying' the antiquated horse-traders' status quo.
This lawyer can take his qualifications and his faux 'pro-egalitarian' gimmick to the local tarot reader and swap them for 6 minutes of inter-spiritual clairvoyance.
Hogwash. Of the legislated and mandated sort.
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After reading all of this, I think probably the best way to sum up Internet Defamation, is BUTTHURT.
Granted, if someone started posting things about me on the web that were lies, and prospective employers read them and were like whoa, what's up with this guy, I would be pretty upset. But due to the fact that im not richie rich, I would have to put on my big boy pants and deal with it myself.
The good news is, there are several people on the internet with my first and last name, and a couple of them are even artists, like I am, so that helps.
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Google Bomb? Really? As for Scheff, she never ceases to amaze. Her rank hypocrisy; limitless greed; total lack of shame; the pitiful self stroking; the never ending grasp for sympathy and constant efforts to keep that sick ego inflated to grandiose levels, are astonishing. I'd say she needs help, but there is no help for this sad and disturbing condition.
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Meanwhile, while you are busy opining on fornits, an obscure website which nobody of consequence has ever heard of, Sue Scheff is out there on TV and taking phone calls all day long from parents looking for placement. It's amusing how some of you think that writing a couple paragraphs on fornits will help anybody(well other than yourself feel superior to other people). You are all selfish and waste your time and expect a pat on the back? Come on , wake up and smell the fail already. It's like you are a bunch of trained dogs, who bark at hearing the word "Scheff" or "Woodbury"".
Someone says: Scheff! or Lon!
You all respond: Bark! Bark! Ruff! Grrrrr!
Good dogs!
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Meanwhile, while you are busy opining on fornits, an obscure website which nobody of consequence has ever heard of, Sue Scheff is out there on TV and taking phone calls all day long from parents looking for placement.
Is she taking calls from real parents or from journalists, Feds, or Fornitscators investigating Scheff's con/kickback game? You never know who could be on the other end taping the conversation.
We're calling programs everyday, winding up RTC admissions people and EdCons into full spin. Set up a nice scenario: parents with an abundance of cash and a poverty of soul who want to incarcerate their son/daughter who has no legitimate need for an RTC. The prospect of closing some ass clown on direct-pay placement of a low maintenance kid sexually excites KoolAid cultists. The castrated economy is making parents deaf to the "Dead or in Jail" siren song of the TTI. Without disposable income, kids aren't as disposable. Programs are barren, shutting down for lack of cash-heavy, easily exploited sheep the industry once gorged on. The TTI will be like a pack of starved, deeply inbred and psychotic Pit Bulls trapped in a sand pit. Programs will fight to the death over shitty scraps like short-term insurance cases. In the end, programs will sink into cannibalism before dying off.
Considering the dire straits parental choice RTC's are in, these fake parents with deep pockets and shallow minds calling are like manna from God to a program with a total enrollment of one or an EdCon who hasn't turned a trick in recent memory. Sue or an admissions director will say anything to hook a rube parent and suck the sweet cash out of the tricks, like fat, sweaty, pink ATM's that always run out of money before the RTC's run out of revised treatment plans.
Every lie and fraudulent misrepresentation in the sales pitch gets taped. The financially challenged EdCon or program flunky is ecstatic over what smells like an easy mark who's ready to sign off. Imagine the EdCon/RTC ass clown's impotent rage when their cash cow suddenly hangs-up. Imagine the destruction of assets after realizing someone taped your fraudulent claims and statements, reducing your worth down to the commodity known as "bitch property".
God bless.
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It's amusing how some of you think that writing a couple paragraphs on fornits will help anybody
:roflmao:
omg... that is just *too* funny that you think for one minute that unscrupulous, unsavory individuals like myself would have any intention of helping anyone. You must be new around here, sweetheart.
(well other than yourself feel superior to other people).
Yup! And people like you make it golly darn easy, slappy-cakes.
And please, stop mixing tenses. writing/feeling, not writing/feel. But actually, it should be "Well, other than making yourselves feel superior." Although I know that I, myself, always try to avoid the overuse of the verbs "to be" and "to make" so I could understand the hesitation to resort to that. So I think probably the best would be "other than helping yourselves (to) feel superior to other people." cause then, see you have the verb help in the first part, and then you draw a parallel by using the verb help in the second part... it works better comparison-wise.
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It's amusing how some of you think that writing a couple paragraphs on fornits will help anybody
:roflmao:
omg... that is just *too* funny that you think for one minute that unscrupulous, unsavory individuals like myself would have any intention of helping anyone. You must be new around here, sweetheart.
(well other than yourself feel superior to other people).
Yup! And people like you make it golly darn easy, slappy-cakes.
And please, stop mixing tenses. writing/feeling, not writing/feel. But actually, it should be "Well, other than making yourselves feel superior." Although I know that I, myself, always try to avoid the overuse of the verbs "to be" and "to make" so I could understand the hesitation to resort to that. So I think probably the best would be "other than helping yourselves (to) feel superior to other people." cause then, see you have the verb help in the first part, and then you draw a parallel by using the verb help in the second part... it works better comparison-wise.
You must be one of those people who butts into a conversation just to correct someone's grammar or spelling. Then everyone stands around awkwardly looking at each other, on the verge of laughing while at the same time crowding you out of the discussion circle. You add no value to the conversation at all, but hey I'll give you the insincere "thanks", so you don't feel so bad about yourself. :roflmao:
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Meanwhile, while you are busy opining on fornits, an obscure website which nobody of consequence has ever heard of, Sue Scheff is out there on TV and taking phone calls all day long from parents looking for placement.
Is she taking calls from real parents or from journalists, Feds, or Fornitscators investigating Scheff's con/kickback game? You never know who could be on the other end taping the conversation.
We're calling programs everyday, winding up RTC admissions people and EdCons into full spin. Set up a nice scenario: parents with an abundance of cash and a poverty of soul who want to incarcerate their son/daughter who has no legitimate need for an RTC. The prospect of closing some ass clown on direct-pay placement of a low maintenance kid sexually excites KoolAid cultists. The castrated economy is making parents deaf to the "Dead or in Jail" siren song of the TTI. Without disposable income, kids aren't as disposable. Programs are barren, shutting down for lack of cash-heavy, easily exploited sheep the industry once gorged on. The TTI will be like a pack of starved, deeply inbred and psychotic Pit Bulls trapped in a sand pit. Programs will fight to the death over shitty scraps like short-term insurance cases. In the end, programs will sink into cannibalism before dying off.
Considering the dire straits parental choice RTC's are in, these fake parents with deep pockets and shallow minds calling are like manna from God to a program with a total enrollment of one or an EdCon who hasn't turned a trick in recent memory. Sue or an admissions director will say anything to hook a rube parent and suck the sweet cash out of the tricks, like fat, sweaty, pink ATM's that always run out of money before the RTC's run out of revised treatment plans.
Every lie and fraudulent misrepresentation in the sales pitch gets taped. The financially challenged EdCon or program flunky is ecstatic over what smells like an easy mark who's ready to sign off. Imagine the EdCon/RTC ass clown's impotent rage when their cash cow suddenly hangs-up. Imagine the destruction of assets after realizing someone taped your fraudulent claims and statements, reducing your worth down to the commodity known as "bitch property".
God bless.
You think programs are afraid of a few recorded phone calls and fake parents? :roflmao: Talk about wishful thinking. Soon as the recession ends new and better programs will sprout up from the decaying remains of the programs going under now. It's called evolution and that's why programs are only getting better and better with time.
It's the economy stupid, isn't that how it goes? I'm not surprised some of you want to take credit for the downfall of programs that are only having trouble because parents can't afford them right now. Enjoy it while it lasts, and take credit for all you can because who knows, someone might actually believe you. Where's the program gone out of business counter? You should be advertising all the programs that prank calls and internet posts have shut down!
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It's the economy stupid, isn't that how it goes?
Apparently you aren't aware that there is an investigation going on. So I'm guessing you believe what your told about how the big bad economy is shutting these places down all in succession. lol Why is it then, that only NOW have they started going under when the economy has been bad for years? and why is it that kids are being sent home by the authorities and not just transferred to other schools? and why is it that all in the span of a few months have 6 different WWASP schools been shut down, especially those in the foreign countries that are notably cheaper to run than a US facility? Seems to me you forgot a few details there, but I won't hold it against you, you are brainwashed to accept what your told and never think for yourself so what else should we expect.
I wonder what makes a person get up early in the morning, switch on their computer and log on to Fornits just to fuck with people. You really must have some serious issues. I would honestly feel bad for you if your idiotic posts didn't make me laugh so much and yes, at you.
I sure do hope your right that programs will get better. I hope that the people running these things realize that you don't have to torture kids in order to facilitate change. I hope that the tactics of thought reform are banished and replaced with education and inspiration for passion in life. I hope that the people who are hired to work at these places are all certified and qualified to be working with special needs kids and find their foremost duty to the welfare of the kids, not the company. I REALLY hope that programs stop cutting corners to save money, and stop enforcing rules that serve no purpose but to oppress and control the children with fear and stop using physical restraint and stress positions as a punishment. If these things can really happen I will feel proud that I spent all this time on this movement and I strongly believe if we weren't here speaking our concerns that change and "programs getting better" would have never happened.
So thank you... you bumbling, imbecilic, miserable troll, you have just made my day. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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It's the economy stupid, isn't that how it goes?
Apparently you aren't aware that there is an investigation going on. So I'm guessing you believe what your told about how the big bad economy is shutting these places down all in succession. lol Why is it then, that only NOW have they started going under when the economy has been bad for years? and why is it that kids are being sent home by the authorities and not just transferred to other schools? and why is it that all in the span of a few months have 6 different WWASP schools been shut down, especially those in the foreign countries that are notably cheaper to run than a US facility? Seems to me you forgot a few details there, but I won't hold it against you, you are brainwashed to accept what your told and never think for yourself so what else should we expect.
I wonder what makes a person get up early in the morning, switch on their computer and log on to Fornits just to fuck with people. You really must have some serious issues. I would honestly feel bad for you if your idiotic posts didn't make me laugh so much and yes, at you.
I sure do hope your right that programs will get better. I hope that the people running these things realize that you don't have to torture kids in order to facilitate change. I hope that the tactics of thought reform are banished and replaced with education and inspiration for passion in life. I hope that the people who are hired to work at these places are all certified and qualified to be working with special needs kids and find their foremost duty to the welfare of the kids, not the company. I REALLY hope that programs stop cutting corners to save money, and stop enforcing rules that serve no purpose but to oppress and control the children with fear and stop using physical restraint and stress positions as a punishment. If these things can really happen I will feel proud that I spent all this time on this movement and I strongly believe if we weren't here speaking our concerns that change and "programs getting better" would have never happened.
So thank you... you bumbling, imbecilic, miserable troll, you have just made my day. :hug: :hug: :hug:
There are more programs today than there were 10 years ago. The same will be true again in 10 years. If short term economic hardship in the industry pleases you, I'm sorry to break it to you this will only be short term. Programs are more popular than ever, and it actually helps the industry for the cheapo white trash programs like WWASP to close down to make room for better programs. Google "teen program opening" and you can find out for yourself more programs are opening than closing, even now in bad economic times.
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Nah, they're just switching names around. Just like they've done since they're inception. One place gets called on for their bullshit so they just change names.
Same shit, different wrapper.
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You think programs are afraid of a few recorded phone calls and fake parents?
You should be advertising all the programs that prank calls and internet posts have shut down!
Which program provides your KoolAid? I'd like to focus attention on it. You must have gotten a call that made you feel like "bitch property" considering your simmering anger and hatred. if you're not worried about the calls being taped for possible use against the RTC, give us the name and we'll see how the admissions people hold up. The best "problem" to give the program is a homosexual child you want cured through behavior modification. You should hear the crap they promise, they offer to address the child's "sexual confusion" and focus on correct "gender identification". Would the program who vomited up that bullshit want people knowing they offer (or attempt) to cure homosexuality?
Didn't you hear or read transcripts of the GAO's calls to programs? Hell yes the programs were afraid of the investigator's calls. How scared was the TTI of the GAO investigation? Ask Jan Moss, her performance during the first GAO hearing was so embarrassing, so damaging that NATSAP fired her.
Also, I know programs are edgy about the legitimacy of the parents requesting info. I've heard the anguished screams when I end the call with 'Thanks for that, I'll pass it onto the FTC after I post it on Fornits". Seriously.
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It's amusing how some of you think that writing a couple paragraphs on fornits will help anybody
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omg... that is just *too* funny that you think for one minute that unscrupulous, unsavory individuals like myself would have any intention of helping anyone. You must be new around here, sweetheart.
(well other than yourself feel superior to other people).
Yup! And people like you make it golly darn easy, slappy-cakes.
And please, stop mixing tenses. writing/feeling, not writing/feel. But actually, it should be "Well, other than making yourselves feel superior." Although I know that I, myself, always try to avoid the overuse of the verbs "to be" and "to make" so I could understand the hesitation to resort to that. So I think probably the best would be "other than helping yourselves (to) feel superior to other people." cause then, see you have the verb help in the first part, and then you draw a parallel by using the verb help in the second part... it works better comparison-wise.
You must be one of those people who butts into a conversation just to correct someone's grammar or spelling. Then everyone stands around awkwardly looking at each other, on the verge of laughing while at the same time crowding you out of the discussion circle. You add no value to the conversation at all, but hey I'll give you the insincere "thanks", so you don't feel so bad about yourself. :roflmao:
0h n0z, you sussed me!
Well, that, and because there is little point in arguing with you about anything substantial. However, the grammar for this past entry of yours has improved dramatically. Smiley face and a "grape job" smelly sticker for you! Yaaaay!
Sadly, I do, indeed, feel terrible about myself... all the time. It's amazing that I leave my dingy hovel some days. Keeping a copy of "The Elements of Style" with me in my Thundercats lunchbox helps my feelings of self-worth, and my therapist said it's ok, so nuts to you, Mary.
BTW, I like what you're wearing today. Or at least what I can see through your window.