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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: psy on December 02, 2008, 02:31:39 PM
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Pictures that speak thousands of words.
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_002.jpg)
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_011.jpg)
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_028-1.jpg)
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_033.jpg)
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_035.jpg)
Edit: Pictures removed at request of source
Edit: Pictures added again at request of another source
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Nom nom nom nom... yum.
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::puke:: :cry: :ftard: :bs:
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if its anything like at SCL or TB you have to eat at least 50% of it or its a cat 3 or 5 (refusal) depending on the staff. ether way it is a loss of most if not all points. :poison: :beat:
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That is just wrong on so many levels, where to begin.
These parents are paying how much to keep their kids there? Thousands per month? This is the best they can do?
When will they realize they are handing their money to a corporation that will spend as little as possible on the kids, so they can pocket the rest?
They hire the cheapest employees available. They buy the cheapest "food" available. They make the kids cook and clean the facility themselves and call it therapy. They pit the kids against each other in order to police themselves and hire less staff.
Are parents really this dumb? Are they really that cruel? Or do they not care? I'll never understand it. Plenty of the parents take a tour of the facility, and see the kids faces, and know what they are buying into. You are a parent who thought WWASP was a good idea? Welcome to the bottom 1% of humanity, you earned it.
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Hmm... I've seen those somewhere? thanks for the mirror... http://www.antiwwasp.com (http://www.antiwwasp.com)
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That is just wrong on so many levels, where to begin.
These parents are paying how much to keep their kids there? Thousands per month? This is the best they can do?
When will they realize they are handing their money to a corporation that will spend as little as possible on the kids, so they can pocket the rest?
They hire the cheapest employees available. They buy the cheapest "food" available. They make the kids cook and clean the facility themselves and call it therapy. They pit the kids against each other in order to police themselves and hire less staff.
Are parents really this dumb? Are they really that cruel? Or do they not care? I'll never understand it. Plenty of the parents take a tour of the facility, and see the kids faces, and know what they are buying into. You are a parent who thought WWASP was a good idea? Welcome to the bottom 1% of humanity, you earned it.
Most parents are desperate to avoid the juvenile justice systems for their kids...so desperate that they are, most often, exploited further by the marketing machines these facilities use..they try to give you "hope" that your child will be well cared for and safe...this is a trap that you cannot see when you are in "full crisis mode" I don't think I was dumb...just desperate. My son was both physically & mentally abusive to me...I lived in fear of him. That said...I still pulled him after 2 months.
The 5 years that have elapsed since then has been trying and difficult, but my son and I made a commitment to each other that "maintaining our good relationship" was the TOP priority for us. Even if that meant that sometimes we could not live together in harmony. Rather than destroy what we both worked so hard to achieve, we remove ourselves from the conflict first and we have zero tolerance for physical violence. Please note: my son has been diagnosed with Intermittent Explosive Disorder (IED) so that problem is always hovering overhead whenever we have a fight.
Today...life is good with us. I even rent a room to him in my other apartment upstairs. He pays rent and I treat him just like any other tenant. The love we have for each other is the most amazing thing I have ever been privileged to have in my life. He is my light and my hope....I am truly blessed!
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Most parents are desperate to avoid the juvenile justice systems for their kids...
Is that a fact or just your opinion?
so desperate that they are, most often, exploited further by the marketing machines these facilities use..
Wwasps marketing is not sophisticated, it's the worst in the industry. Is a crappy website, a phone call and a few brochures all it takes to convince a parent to send their kid off to a reprogramming gulag?
they try to give you "hope" that your child will be well cared for and safe...
You "hope" your kid will be safe because it's obvious how dangerous it is. Not exactly a well thought out plan to base it all on "hope".
this is a trap that you cannot see when you are in "full crisis mode"
It's a trap parents refuse to see, to relieve themselves of the crisis.
I don't think I was dumb...just desperate.
Keep telling yourself that.
My son was both physically & mentally abusive to me...I lived in fear of him.
What better way to get back at him by giving him a taste of his own medicine. If a kid hired thugs to kidnap their parents to take them to a hidden facility where they will be subject to abusive reprogramming the kid would be placed in jail, and probably diagnosed with a variety of mental illnesses. What makes it any different for a parent? Because there is a loop hole in the law that says it's legal?
That said...I still pulled him after 2 months.
Just enough time to show him who is in charge. Now he knows thugs with handcuffs are just a phone call away. He can be flown out of the country and held in private prison until he is 21 on the whims of a parent. Mission accomplished. Control reasserted.
The 5 years that have elapsed since then has been trying and difficult, but my son and I made a commitment to each other that "maintaining our good relationship" was the TOP priority for us. Even if that meant that sometimes we could not live together in harmony. Rather than destroy what we both worked so hard to achieve, we remove ourselves from the conflict first and we have zero tolerance for physical violence.
Have you ever heard the term control freak before? It afflicts 100% of program parents, oddly enough.
Please note: my son has been diagnosed with Intermittent Explosive Disorder (IED) so that problem is always hovering overhead whenever we have a fight.
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I even rent a room to him in my other apartment upstairs. He pays rent and I treat him just like any other tenant.
Control. Freak. 100% of program parents, guaranteed.
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Oh... My.... Goodness.
I cant believe Im saying this but I am actually grateful for the sour mayonaise chicken they served at casa after seeing this! That is unbelievable... And you can tell that the girl who threw up is being FORCED to eat that, on thanksgiving no less while her PIECE OF SHIT parents are at home enjoying their large turkey and all the fixings Im sure thanking god for Darrington Academy and all the wonderful "help" they are giving their daughter.
SHAME ON YOU! SHAME ON YOU! SHAME SHAME SHAME! (of course this being directed at the parents of this poor child)
I really want to see more photos coming out of these programs... this is GOLD.
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Actually. As I understand it, the kids aren't technically "forced" (but they are coerced). As it was explained to me, participation in this "fear factor" food marathon is optional, but it does grant a large number of points (500) toward graduation (that much closer to leaving). Of course the staff can still take away those points and send you down levels for any number of arbitrary reasons, so it really means nothing.
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Pictures that speak thousands of words.
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_002.jpg)
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_011.jpg)
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_028-1.jpg)
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_033.jpg)
(http://http://www.fornits.com/darrington/girls_fear_factor_11-03-07_035.jpg)
can images be posted? How?
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Those pictures are disgusting. Poor kids! I wonder who got the camera in to take those??????
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Those pictures are disgusting. Poor kids! I wonder who got the camera in to take those??????
According to the source I got the pictures from, they were posted in the parent's section of Darrington's website.
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Actually. As I understand it, the kids aren't technically "forced" (but they are coerced). As it was explained to me, participation in this "fear factor" food marathon is optional, but it does grant a large number of points (500) toward graduation (that much closer to leaving). Of course the staff can still take away those points and send you down levels for any number of arbitrary reasons, so it really means nothing.
Are those slugs I see?
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at some wasp programs on the holidays they let the kids eat as much as they want to. the kids revel in this freedom for a day and eat way more than they should, and then throw it all back up. its not because the food is so disgusting it makes you throw up really its because they eat too much. thats why the trash cans are ready for them to use because a lot of them throw up after eating several plates full. and if you are making fun of the food you are making fun of the kids who probably cooked it so keep that in mind .
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Doesn't look like food to me. It looks like blended hog slop. It looks like cruel and unusual punishment. My stomach rolled over just looking at the pictures. I can't imagine eating it. And this was for Thanksgiving. That is just monstrous.
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at some wasp programs on the holidays they let the kids eat as much as they want to. the kids revel in this freedom for a day and eat way more than they should, and then throw it all back up. its not because the food is so disgusting it makes you throw up really its because they eat too much. thats why the trash cans are ready for them to use because a lot of them throw up after eating several plates full. and if you are making fun of the food you are making fun of the kids who probably cooked it so keep that in mind .
Obsolutely NOT true. For one I have to point out that these pictures were NOT taken on thanksgiving In fact this is some kind of "fear factor" game that the girls are encouraged to partake in in order to earn points. Honestly it looks like baby food to me. Now why in the world would students be subjected to or even choose to eat this stuff I dont know. But I do know that this is not Thanksgiving dinner.
and just to let you know, when I was in the program they did let our parents send us packages on Christmas, Holloween, Birthdays and Easter but they did not let us eat until we puked. The gave us a good 4 hours to eat a bag of candy which we usually shared with the family anyway, I remember feeling sugar sick but never enough to throw up. I don't remember anyone else throwing up either.
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If the photo are of ordinary meals and the staff eat from the same kitchen as the students, I wont apply for the job (http://http://tijuana.en.craigslist.com.mx/hea/922947011.html) at Oceanside (http://http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/fornitswiki/index.php/Oceanside):
Family Representative/Parent Coordinator (Rosarito, BC, Mexico) for Boarding School/Behavior Modification Program
Communication in English and Spanish Fluently a must
Able to travel to Rosarito Baja California for work and occasionally in the USA
Computer Knowledge
Office Word and Excel
Monday thru Friday and occasional weekends
Liaison between Teen and Parents
Ability to listen, take criticism and handle miscommunication
We are willing to offer:
$2,000.00 dollars/month, Room and Board (private room and bath)
Includes: Rent, Food (3 Healthy and Delicious Meals per day), Electricity, Water and Trash Removal
Location: Rosarito, BC, Mexico
Compensation: $2,000.00 dollars/month
This is a contract job.
OK for recruiters to contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
You may contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
PostingID: XXXXXXXX
They promise "3 Healthy and Delicious Meals per day". While I cannot apply for the job due to my poor skills in the servant language (which is poor even if you compare them with my poor English skill).
Why is the job-offer posted under healthcare with that food standard, unless the healthcare sector is the destination if you choose to eat it?
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Most parents are desperate to avoid the juvenile justice systems for their kids...
Is that a fact or just your opinion?
so desperate that they are, most often, exploited further by the marketing machines these facilities use..
Wwasps marketing is not sophisticated, it's the worst in the industry. Is a crappy website, a phone call and a few brochures all it takes to convince a parent to send their kid off to a reprogramming gulag?
they try to give you "hope" that your child will be well cared for and safe...
You "hope" your kid will be safe because it's obvious how dangerous it is. Not exactly a well thought out plan to base it all on "hope".
this is a trap that you cannot see when you are in "full crisis mode"
It's a trap parents refuse to see, to relieve themselves of the crisis.
I don't think I was dumb...just desperate.
Keep telling yourself that.
My son was both physically & mentally abusive to me...I lived in fear of him.
What better way to get back at him by giving him a taste of his own medicine. If a kid hired thugs to kidnap their parents to take them to a hidden facility where they will be subject to abusive reprogramming the kid would be placed in jail, and probably diagnosed with a variety of mental illnesses. What makes it any different for a parent? Because there is a loop hole in the law that says it's legal?
That said...I still pulled him after 2 months.
Just enough time to show him who is in charge. Now he knows thugs with handcuffs are just a phone call away. He can be flown out of the country and held in private prison until he is 21 on the whims of a parent. Mission accomplished. Control reasserted.
The 5 years that have elapsed since then has been trying and difficult, but my son and I made a commitment to each other that "maintaining our good relationship" was the TOP priority for us. Even if that meant that sometimes we could not live together in harmony. Rather than destroy what we both worked so hard to achieve, we remove ourselves from the conflict first and we have zero tolerance for physical violence.
Have you ever heard the term control freak before? It afflicts 100% of program parents, oddly enough.
Please note: my son has been diagnosed with Intermittent Explosive Disorder (IED) so that problem is always hovering overhead whenever we have a fight.
::)
I even rent a room to him in my other apartment upstairs. He pays rent and I treat him just like any other tenant.
Control. Freak. 100% of program parents, guaranteed.
Have you ever considering using your apparent abundance of "free time" to actually DO something to change what is happening to our youth??? Instead, you use your time making ridiculous posts to a thread about a parent/child relationship YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! You are also jumping to all kinds of conclusions WITHOUT HAVING ANY FACTS. He lives here because HE WANTS TO...he is 21 and can leave at anytime, but instead he chooses to stay near his MOTHER that loves him unconditionally - Not for the person I wanted him to be, but just for WHO HE IS TODAY. The BEST and most liberating thing I ever did was to "let go" of MY hopes and dreams for his future and just love him for who he is today...tomorrow...next year! The best is still yet to come....and YOU will have missed the boat...sad and pathetic!
Talk is cheap...actions speak louder than anonymous words from people that don't even have the guts to register and just post anon.
Bring it on..tell me all the things YOU DO to help further the cause of shutting down the industry?? Hmmm...big talker
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The thing about people on fornits... they see through program parent's bullshit. Every program parent is the best parent in the world, dealing with the most trouble kid in the world, don't you get it? You are all the same. Just because you took your kid out after two months doesn't make you any smarter, or more clever than any of the rest. You probably ran out of money and made a bullshit story to tell your kid because you knew he would rightly be angry. One day, due to your controlling tendencies, when you were checking his computer to see if he was logging on to porn, you found antiwwasp.com and made a bullshit story to illicit sympathy and gain online friends because you wish some kid, any kid would love you. Now you made this your full time hobby, how pathetic for you.
Sure you'll get some desperate survivors to cling to your bullshit. They wish they had a parent too who would would tell them it was all a mistake and they love them a lot. But that's not how program parents work. They manipulate kids, control them and abuse them. I see right through your bullshit just like many others here do and will. I'm sure you are wondering why I am not grateful for your presence, in the same exact way you wonder why your kid did not worship you forever for removing him after 2 months of an abusive program. That's what makes you a program parent, and why you'll never figure it out.
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The thing about people on fornits... they see through program parent's bullshit. Every program parent is the best parent in the world, dealing with the most trouble kid in the world, don't you get it? You are all the same. Just because you took your kid out after two months doesn't make you any smarter, or more clever than any of the rest.
I couldn't agree more! A lot can happen in 60 days, a hell of a lot!! But denial ain't just a river in Egypt -- this idiot will keep telling herself whatever it takes to feel better about not raising her own kid. There's a sucker born every minute, and I think this phrase is especially true when speaking of program parents! :roflmao: :deal: :beat: :rofl:
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The thing about people on fornits... they see through program parent's bullshit. Every program parent is the best parent in the world, dealing with the most trouble kid in the world, don't you get it? You are all the same. Just because you took your kid out after two months doesn't make you any smarter, or more clever than any of the rest. You probably ran out of money and made a bullshit story to tell your kid because you knew he would rightly be angry. One day, due to your controlling tendencies, when you were checking his computer to see if he was logging on to porn, you found antiwwasp.com and made a bullshit story to illicit sympathy and gain online friends because you wish some kid, any kid would love you. Now you made this your full time hobby, how pathetic for you.
Sure you'll get some desperate survivors to cling to your bullshit. They wish they had a parent too who would would tell them it was all a mistake and they love them a lot. But that's not how program parents work. They manipulate kids, control them and abuse them. I see right through your bullshit just like many others here do and will. I'm sure you are wondering why I am not grateful for your presence, in the same exact way you wonder why your kid did not worship you forever for removing him after 2 months of an abusive program. That's what makes you a program parent, and why you'll never figure it out.
Well said. VERY well said.
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The thing about people on fornits... they see through program parent's bullshit. Every program parent is the best parent in the world, dealing with the most trouble kid in the world, don't you get it? You are all the same. Just because you took your kid out after two months doesn't make you any smarter, or more clever than any of the rest.
I couldn't agree more! A lot can happen in 60 days, a hell of a lot!! But denial ain't just a river in Egypt -- this idiot will keep telling herself whatever it takes to feel better about not raising her own kid. There's a sucker born every minute, and I think this phrase is especially true when speaking of program parents! :roflmao: :deal: :beat: :rofl:
SO true....time for this parent to STFU and get the hell out of here!!
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I personally think it would be good if she stayed. I believe there is a lot to learn from her. If you treat people like shit, they are never going to share anything on this site. Some of you are just way too angry to do any good.
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The thing about people on fornits... they see through program parent's bullshit. Every program parent is the best parent in the world, dealing with the most trouble kid in the world, don't you get it? You are all the same. Just because you took your kid out after two months doesn't make you any smarter, or more clever than any of the rest. You probably ran out of money and made a bullshit story to tell your kid because you knew he would rightly be angry. One day, due to your controlling tendencies, when you were checking his computer to see if he was logging on to porn, you found antiwwasp.com and made a bullshit story to illicit sympathy and gain online friends because you wish some kid, any kid would love you. Now you made this your full time hobby, how pathetic for you.
Sure you'll get some desperate survivors to cling to your bullshit. They wish they had a parent too who would would tell them it was all a mistake and they love them a lot. But that's not how program parents work. They manipulate kids, control them and abuse them. I see right through your bullshit just like many others here do and will. I'm sure you are wondering why I am not grateful for your presence, in the same exact way you wonder why your kid did not worship you forever for removing him after 2 months of an abusive program. That's what makes you a program parent, and why you'll never figure it out.
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The thing about fornits is you get a lot of trolls who are connected to the industry. They are happy to drive off a reliable poster speaking about wwasp from a parent's point of view so her story is silenced. This parent never had her son kidnapped. He wasn’t there under “lock down” terms, as far as she knew. And, when she found out how horrible wwasp was she rescued him, even though when she got there the boy was so brainwashed he refused to leave at first, she made him come with her. Speaks for itself.
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if its anything like at SCL or TB you have to eat at least 50% of it or its a cat 3 or 5 (refusal) depending on the staff. ether way it is a loss of most if not all points. :poison: :beat:
refusal category usually results in loss of two levels and your points revert to the minimum amount of points needed for that level. cat 5s are almost always loss of all levels and points.