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General Interest => Tacitus' Realm => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 01, 2008, 02:49:33 PM
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This is shamelessly stolen from another site's comment section.
People that like to biatch about how "both candidates suck, it's douchebag vs turd sandwich" are the same type of people that like to brag about not having a TV and hate all music but their bootleg copy of an Eskimo tribe that creates music by hitting different sized seal bones. You aren't edgy, cool or more intelligent just like you weren't edgy, smart or cool when you were stealing your moms eyeliner in high school. Grow up.
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I'd vote if I had any confidence at all in the integrity of the election process. I may do it anyway. Last time around, I wrote in Ron Paul just to be able to confirm the next day that the reported results were inaccurate. Around here, they print the totals for each little precinct. In mine they reported 0 votes for Ron Paul and 0 for any write ins or third party candidates.
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I hear ya. I just thought the comment was funny.
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I'd vote if I had any confidence at all in the integrity of the election process. I may do it anyway. Last time around, I wrote in Ron Paul just to be able to confirm the next day that the reported results were inaccurate. Around here, they print the totals for each little precinct. In mine they reported 0 votes for Ron Paul and 0 for any write ins or third party candidates.
"Politicians, ugly buildings and whores get respectable if they live long enough.
-John Houston in Chinatown
Every 4 years we here the same nonsense. 'This is the most important election of our Lifetime.' It`s a crock but people still spew it
every 4 years anyway.
Obama will be our next President. It's been the norm in America that one political party will be in power for 8 years and then the
opposing political party comes into power. Nothing new under the Sun."
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Security vulnerabilities in electronic voting machines threaten to skew results in the upcoming national election, says a Republican security expert. Stephen Spoonamore has come forward as a whistleblower willing to testify in an Ohio court case stemming from the 2004 Presidential elections.
Spoonamore, former CEO of Cybrinth, specialist in data management and remote electronic monitoring, and card-carrying member of the GOP, explains in a series of YouTube videos how Diebold e-voting machines can be hacked and manipulated to change vote tallies. The videos were posted by Velvet Revolution, an activist group with the aim of exposing voter fraud and returning to paper ballets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyEfovA404 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyEfovA404)
The voting machines, according to Spoonamore, communicate with central government systems in the same way mobile phones connect with each other. The machine sends a signal to a tower, is filtered through third-party, corporate-owned computers identifying both sender and receiver, and then the votes-which are anonymous and without any type of paper trail-are then forwarded to the government receiver.
The inherent problem is that third party wireless intercept of information. Spoonamore says without a doubt tabulations can be intercepted and changed before they are sent on to officials. More specifically, as was the case in Ohio in 2004, tabulations were funneled through servers in Chattanooga, TN, owned by SmarTech. Coincidentally, the Bush Administration has used these servers for sending and receiving email to avoid public scrutiny.
Spoonamore, who has helped develop security solutions for MasterCard, American Express, Bloomberg, Boeing, NBC, News Corp., the Dept. of Energy, the US Navy, and the Dept. of State, is on record, in a sworn affidavit, explaining how easily these voting machines can be hacked and manipulated.
In that affidavit, dated September 18, 2008, he mentions the involvement of Mike Connell, president of GovTech Solutions and New Media Communications, and a web designer and IT consultant for high-level Republicans. Connell was served with a subpoena on Sept. 22, compelling his testimony about vote-tampering in Ohio in 2004.
That case involves controversial strategist and Bush campaign advisor Karl Rove, who has also been subpoenaed. Why four years later? An Ohio judge finally lifted a stay that was on the case in an effort to avoid litigants' attempts to delay it until after the 2008 elections this November. Spoonamore's testimony was heralded as a catalyst for this event.
Spoonamore can't say Connell was directly involved with vote-tampering, but swears Connell knows who was. Until the subpoena, Connell has refused to testify. Most disturbing about Spoonamore's claims is that there is already a plan in play to swing the Presidential race to John McCain, who he claims will win by 3 electoral votes and 51% of the popular vote. If these claims were made someone less credible, it would be fodder for conspiracy theory.
Why haven't you heard about this all over the news? Good question and not one easily answered. In 2006, former ABC producer and investigative journalist Rebecca Abrahams resorted to a blog post to detail apparent voter fraud in 2004, because ABC lawyers killed the story in fear of lawsuits from Diebold.
Abrahams also posts an interview with a person she calls "Diebthroat," a temporary contractor who worked for Diebold. Diebthroat explains how shortly before a Georgia election in 2002, the president of Diebold instructed him to install a patch in voting machines in specific Georgia counties. Diebthroat said the patches were said to be for fixing the clocks, but the clocks on all machines continued to be broken after the installs. Diebthroat was surprised at the level of access Diebold employees had to the voting machines, before and during Election Day, and at the outcome of the election as traditionally Democrat counties went strongly for Republican candidates.
Diebthroat's story is remarkably similar to former Diebold contractor Chris Hood's, who claims Diebold president Bob Urosevitch himself performed maintenance on the machines. Hood also talks about, in this video posted by Velvet Revolution, being tasked to install broken clock patches on machines shortly before the elections. VR says the video was supposed to air on a major news network two weeks before the 2006 elections, but was pulled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKnIghBsU58 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKnIghBsU58)
Sure enough, you won't find another major news outlet anywhere near this story. Searches for his name on Google News, Yahoo News, Ask, and MSN brought back only a handful of Internet sites few have ever heard of.
Spoonamore, whose says his love of American democracy outweighs his loyalty to the Republican party, complains Diebold's machines are not just vulnerable to Diebold employees, but also to foreign agents. Both Hood and Spoonamore say the flaws that existed in the machines before still exist. Hood goes so far as to say they were purposefully left in play.
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I already via the mail ballot, which was a scan-tron type of sheet so luckily no computer confusion here. i was surprised how easy it was to get a mail ballot, and with the super long lines and computer irregularities, i think more people will be voting by mail in the future. it's hard to find an excuse not to vote when it's so easy. they even have a website that lets you go on and confirm that they received and accepted your ballot. There were way too many important ballot propositions to not vote this year, plus I felt it worth my time to keep that disaster of a campaign mcCain away from the big red button.. scary. :seg2:
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People that like to biatch about how "both candidates suck, it's douchebag vs turd sandwich" are the same type of people that like to brag about not having a TV and hate all music but their bootleg copy of an Eskimo tribe that creates music by hitting different sized seal bones. You aren't edgy, cool or more intelligent just like you weren't edgy, smart or cool when you were stealing your moms eyeliner in high school. Grow up.
I dunno, I kinda like the 'butt-puglican vs. demo-crap' brand of skepticism...
What if you really don't like either candidate? I'd sooner write in "none of the above", Willie Nelson, or some cool 3rd party candidate before casting my vote for the "lesser of two evils." And no, I don't like TV all that much (although this is not always the case; i like to catch certain series on DVD now and then) and would probably not turn off the Eskimo music either, so consequentially, the quote doesn't contain much in the way of humor that I can see...
Additionally, I found South Park's " douchebag vs turd sandwich" bit rather humorous. Call me crazy or pretentious or whatever, and I'd probably call you another boring "grown-up" lacking sense of humor...
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So, Antigen, after discovering your vote didn't count, did you file a complaint or follow up?
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Not individually, but I did my best to bring attention to the ongoing journalistic and criminal investigations. You?
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People that like to biatch about how "both candidates suck, it's douchebag vs turd sandwich" are the same type of people that like to brag about not having a TV and hate all music but their bootleg copy of an Eskimo tribe that creates music by hitting different sized seal bones. You aren't edgy, cool or more intelligent just like you weren't edgy, smart or cool when you were stealing your moms eyeliner in high school. Grow up.
I dunno, I kinda like the 'butt-puglican vs. demo-crap' brand of skepticism...
What if you really don't like either candidate? I'd sooner write in "none of the above", Willie Nelson, or some cool 3rd party candidate before casting my vote for the "lesser of two evils." And no, I don't like TV all that much (although this is not always the case; i like to catch certain series on DVD now and then) and would probably not turn off the Eskimo music either, so consequentially, the quote doesn't contain much in the way of humor that I can see...
Additionally, I found South Park's " douchebag vs turd sandwich" bit rather humorous. Call me crazy or pretentious or whatever, and I'd probably call you another boring "grown-up" lacking sense of humor...
Somehow I didn't think you would. :rofl:
Vote or don't vote. I don't care. But whining about it and making fun of people who DO value that right makes no sense to me. Like you're so above it all. ::) Gimme a break. It IS just like those emo kids who assert that no music that has any amount of popularity can possibly have any value.
stealing your mom's eyeliner in high school.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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Like you're so above it all. ::) Gimme a break. It IS just like those emo kids who assert that no music that has any amount of popularity can possibly have any value.
I'm not saying (and never did) that a canditate's integrity had anything to do with popularity.
So the analogy is not the same at all.
Not Anonymous
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http://www.nypress.com/print.cfm?conten ... hor_id=309 (http://www.nypress.com/print.cfm?content_id=3261&author_id=309)
http://books.google.com/books?id=PkNA4u ... xIC68tYKC0 (http://books.google.com/books?id=PkNA4uMtflwC&pg=PA209&lpg=PA209&dq=vote-scam+vankin&source=bl&ots=pM8H8BmLiy&sig=XUa9y11zztx884ZwkxIC68tYKC0)
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This is shamelessly stolen from another site's comment section.
People that like to biatch about how "both candidates suck, it's douchebag vs turd sandwich" are the same type of people that like to brag about not having a TV and hate all music but their bootleg copy of an Eskimo tribe that creates music by hitting different sized seal bones. You aren't edgy, cool or more intelligent just like you weren't edgy, smart or cool when you were stealing your moms eyeliner in high school. Grow up.
I think people have as much right to choose NOT to vote. To choose NOT to be controlled by a government. Until there is a choice on the ballot that allows me to vote for NO GOVERNMENT I very well might exercise my right NOT to vote. And until I have the chance to vote for what I want in this, oh so free country of ours, I will continue to complain about the fuck holes in office. The right to choose NOT to vote is as much of a right as choosing to vote and everyone therefore has the right to complain about whatever the FUCK they want when it comes to the government or this country. Understood? Glad I could clear things up for you! :beat: :beat: :beat:
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This is shamelessly stolen from another site's comment section.
People that like to biatch about how "both candidates suck, it's douchebag vs turd sandwich" are the same type of people that like to brag about not having a TV and hate all music but their bootleg copy of an Eskimo tribe that creates music by hitting different sized seal bones. You aren't edgy, cool or more intelligent just like you weren't edgy, smart or cool when you were stealing your moms eyeliner in high school. Grow up.
I think people have as much right to choose NOT to vote. To choose NOT to be controlled by a government. Until there is a choice on the ballot that allows me to vote for NO GOVERNMENT I very well might exercise my right NOT to vote. And until I have the chance to vote for what I want in this, oh so free country of ours, I will continue to complain about the fuck holes in office. The right to choose NOT to vote is as much of a right as choosing to vote and everyone therefore has the right to complain about whatever the FUCK they want when it comes to the government or this country. Understood? Glad I could clear things up for you! :beat: :beat: :beat:
Glad someone else posted something along these lines..
And thanks for beating this schmuck over the head a few times; they needed it! :rofl: ::evil:: :roflmao: :twofinger: :fuckoff:
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Not Anonymous
Goodie for you.
::)
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I think people have as much right to choose NOT to vote. To choose NOT to be controlled by a government.
:roflmao: Yeah, you're right. Because you didn't vote that means you're NOT controlled by them.
Did you know that the word gullible isn't in the dictionary?
Until there is a choice on the ballot that allows me to vote for NO GOVERNMENT I very well might exercise my right NOT to vote. And until I have the chance to vote for what I want in this, oh so free country of ours, I will continue to complain about the fuck holes in office.
Agreed. Never said any different. Just said that it doesn't make you as cool or edgy as you'd like to think it does.
The right to choose NOT to vote is as much of a right as choosing to vote and everyone therefore has the right to complain about whatever the FUCK they want when it comes to the government or this country. Understood? Glad I could clear things up for you! :beat: :beat: :beat:
Aw, whassa matter? Hit a nerve did I? :seg:
Yeah, I understand that you missed the point of my post entirely.
Again, don't vote. No one really cares, except to point and laugh at the emo kids who think they're so avant garde and non-conformist.
:rocker: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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http://www.nypress.com/print.cfm?conten ... hor_id=309 (http://www.nypress.com/print.cfm?content_id=3261&author_id=309)
http://books.google.com/books?id=PkNA4u ... xIC68tYKC0 (http://books.google.com/books?id=PkNA4uMtflwC&pg=PA209&lpg=PA209&dq=vote-scam+vankin&source=bl&ots=pM8H8BmLiy&sig=XUa9y11zztx884ZwkxIC68tYKC0)
::poke::
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No one really cares, except to point and laugh at the emo kids who think they're so avant garde and non-conformist.
Hey emo-hater, just calling a spade a spade, pardon the pun.
Ok, if both of the candidates in fact sucked, and I say that I didn't vote for either one of them based on their incompetence, that means I should be compared to a pretentious emo-kid? ::)
Oh, and to quote Cicero: "Politicians are not born, they're excreted."
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Hey emo-hater, just calling a spade a spade, pardon the pun.
I don't hate them. I find them somewhat amusing.
Ok, if both of the candidates in fact sucked, and I say that I didn't vote for either one of them based on their incompetence, that means I should be compared to a pretentious emo-kid? ::)
I wasn't specifically referring to you, but if the shoe fits. And no, you missed the point again. What makes it comparable is the - I'm so much cooler and edgier than you because I don't, "let the government control me" - sentiment behind it that so many seem to have.
Oh, and to quote Cicero: "Politicians are not born, they're excreted."
Well, duh! What? Is that supposed to prove to me how antiestablisment you are? ::)
Now, get off my lawn!!
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This thread blows...next...
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This thread blows...next...
It just hit some nerves, that's all. :waaaa: :rofl:
If you don't like it, don't friggin post in it dumbass. You just bump it back up to the top.
Duh!
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This thread blows...next...
It just hit some nerves, that's all. :waaaa: :rofl:
If you don't like it, don't friggin post in it dumbass. You just bump it back up to the top.
Duh!
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Shut it already, you stupid fucking asshole. I've had about enough of your antagonistic shit here. Log in and let's see the COWARD behind the mask. You won't do it, you'd rather be a dick and take potshots at people with backbones, unlike yourself. GOD how I hate people like you. Waste of fucking flesh. Swine. What a dipshit moron you are. You haven't even touched nerves yet, but I wish you would try and do it in person. Your pain makes me hungry! I'm hungry for pain! Your death is mine motherfucker! Don't even try to escape! Because you're mine! You are all mine! You're all in my thoughts! I will peel you like a potato! I will take out your brains and throw them to my dogs! Oh shit, you're gonna die! I'm gonna peel off your toenails like they were... cupcakes! Like they were... twinkies! You're dead, motherfucker! My life is nothing but to kill you! Revenge is mine! My words make you wanna scream like a dead dog dying from anger-- and pain-- of a dead dog! Uhhhhhh... We're gonna kick some ass tonite, motherfucker! Life! Life is mine! I take you with me! I take you, I crumble you up, I wad you into a little ball! Death picks its teeth with your head! Life! Life is mine! Yup! Revenge is mine! My war jacks off when it sees your revenge! My war is not alone! It's the only war! Anytime you get your ass down here, kick my ass, no problem! My life is better! Don't fuck with me whatsoever! Yup! Revenge is mine! I take it and I leave it! But this one, motherfucker, is mine! And you're not gettin' it! You're the one that's gonna pay this time, buddy! No prob!
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This thread blows...next...
It just hit some nerves, that's all. :waaaa: :rofl:
If you don't like it, don't friggin post in it dumbass. You just bump it back up to the top.
Duh!
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Shut it already, you stupid fucking asshole. I've had about enough of your antagonistic shit here. Log in and let's see the COWARD behind the mask. You won't do it, you'd rather be a dick and take potshots at people with backbones, unlike yourself. GOD how I hate people like you. Waste of fucking flesh. Swine. What a dipshit moron you are. You haven't even touched nerves yet, but I wish you would try and do it in person. Your pain makes me hungry! I'm hungry for pain! Your death is mine motherfucker! Don't even try to escape! Because you're mine! You are all mine! You're all in my thoughts! I will peel you like a potato! I will take out your brains and throw them to my dogs! Oh shit, you're gonna die! I'm gonna peel off your toenails like they were... cupcakes! Like they were... twinkies! You're dead, motherfucker! My life is nothing but to kill you! Revenge is mine! My words make you wanna scream like a dead dog dying from anger-- and pain-- of a dead dog! Uhhhhhh... We're gonna kick some ass tonite, motherfucker! Life! Life is mine! I take you with me! I take you, I crumble you up, I wad you into a little ball! Death picks its teeth with your head! Life! Life is mine! Yup! Revenge is mine! My war jacks off when it sees your revenge! My war is not alone! It's the only war! Anytime you get your ass down here, kick my ass, no problem! My life is better! Don't fuck with me whatsoever! Yup! Revenge is mine! I take it and I leave it! But this one, motherfucker, is mine! And you're not gettin' it! You're the one that's gonna pay this time, buddy! No prob!
Nah, no nerves hit at all.
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My pain makes you hungry? What pain? I'm not hurting. Shit, your rage over a couple of comments makes me laugh.
:flame: :lala: :soapbox:
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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What pain? I'm not hurting.
Then we'll see what we can do about that.
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What pain? I'm not hurting.
Then we'll see what we can do about that.
Is that a threat? Yikes. I guess I should start shaking now??
:eek: ::)
Damn! Just yesterday Obama came and took my guns.
No, no nerves struck. Really. I swear.
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:P :rofl:
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Damn! Just yesterday Obama came and took my guns.
:rofl: :D :cheers:
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Damn! Just yesterday Obama came and took my guns.
:rofl: :D :cheers:
At least you've retained some of your sense of humor!
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