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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: sek on October 25, 2008, 06:58:56 AM
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For those of you who don't know, Steve Rookey recently left Monarch School to start his own program "Ventures in Peace" (ages 18-24). I had the unfortunate experience of seeing him far too much during my time at Monarch. Seemed like 2/3 of the groups I was in were with him. Steve Rookey... cough... extreme egomania... cough...
link: http://http://www.venturesinpeace.com/index.html
"Steven Rookey, Co-Director, brings a broad range of professional and life experiences to each student he works with. He has spent the last twenty-four years involved in alternative education initiatives. Steven has an extraordinary range of experience working with teens and young adults at various levels of risk. This includes literally thousands of hours leading workshops and group facilitations; many multi-day group retreats into the wilderness; over fifteen years as a Wilderness First Responder; a stint as a drama instructor putting on full productions; full training as a Waldorf teacher; teaching fifth grade at the Sandpoint, ID Waldorf School; primary counselor and base-camp co-coordinator for a wilderness intervention program; program director for an emotional growth boarding school; program and operations director for a residential treatment center for American boys in Sonora, Mexico; and previous to founding Ventures in Peace, a Peer Group Leader and Senior Life Skills Manager at the Monarch School. Before being called to work with teens, Steven successfully managed fine dining restaurants in Spokane, Washington, where he was born and raised."
The fishy ambiguity makes me chuckle. "Program director for an emotional growth boarding school". Oh Steve, you don't mean... RMA! Do you? That one didn't end too well. Wait, you're a recovering hard drug addict who has a penchant for the young girls? HIRED! The perfect role model and care provider for developing children!
Then there's the whole Avatar Course deal. Both he and his wife are "licensed Avatar Masters." Mmm... Scientology...
Montana Uber Alles?
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Steve Rookey...full training as a Waldorf teacher; teaching fifth grade at the Sandpoint, ID Waldorf School...
http://www.venturesinpeace.com/index.html (http://www.venturesinpeace.com/index.html)
Hell's Bells!! Another Waldorf perp!
I've added him to "the list" of sorts. See the following thread (linked post plus the one following it re. his wife, Elissa):
Waldorf Schools - haven for perps from the TTI?
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26034&p=317863#p317863 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26034&p=317863#p317863)
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This is just too easy...
"Steven Rookey, Co-Director, brings a broad range of professional and life experiences to each student he works with.
Professional experiences = yelling.
Life experiences = spokanus 2 1/4 star restaurant debauchery.
He has spent the last twenty-four years involved in alternative education initiatives. Steven has an extraordinary range of experience working with teens and young adults at various levels of risk.
Could you equate kids with financial instruments just a little bit more please. My feelings can best be expressed through hedge fund derivatives and my dreams are based on oil futures. What's your Beta, you ROI, and your sharpe ratio?
This includes literally thousands of hours leading workshops and group facilitations;
yell, yell, yell and yell some more. Then stare in silence, then make bizarre eyebrow gestures and finish up by cranking up the yelling until 5pm.
many multi-day group retreats into the wilderness; over fifteen years as a Wilderness First Responder; a stint as a drama instructor putting on full productions;
Good god he was surreal during that dicken's play and Don Quixote.
full training as a Waldorf teacher; teaching fifth grade at the Sandpoint, ID Waldorf School; primary counselor and base-camp co-coordinator for a wilderness intervention program; program director for an emotional growth boarding school; program and operations director for a residential treatment center for American boys in Sonora, Mexico; and previous to founding Ventures in Peace, a Peer Group Leader and
I'm guessing working at a waldorf was the 'saftety net job' after RMA imploded?
Steve - you're talking to the general public not summit students - tone your program speak terminology down please.
Senior Life Skills Manager at the Monarch School.
I said, 'tone down your bogus program terminology' puh-lhees.
Before being called to work with teens
Oh look - denomination free divinity. How special. Surely, he crochets sweaters with bucolic scenes of kids sawing logs and staff running their anger in black chairs.
Steven successfully managed fine dining restaurants in Spokane, Washington, where he was born and raised."
Fine dining restaurant in Spokane? Oh yeah, I know where it is, it's across the street from the tooth fairy's corporate office. No wait, my bad - it's adjacent to NAMBLA'S youth shelter.
restaurant managers and those long work shifts.....up until the wee hours of the night.
Anyone know which shitpit he worked at in Mexico?
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This guy is scary. His site reads like you are sending your kid off to a commune to get their life in order, but... from Ursus' citations I know better. Instead he is a sick ____. I have lived in communes and I have been in therapeutic communities. They bare no resemblance to one another. The commune was fun up to a point. The TC was hell on earth.
Let's see you have an 18 yr. old who can't decide about college so you send him off to this place to be fixed. What if the so called 18 yr. old is just plain depressed? Seems more logical to treat the depression and move one; not to ship him off to Ventures in Peace or whatever the bullshit name is. I wonder if we should notify the residents of Lolo, Montana. I know of one. The Avatar Program sounds just like Scientology and EST. I would not let these people near my kids (if I had any).
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Anyone know which shitpit he worked at in Mexico?
My guess is that that would be Positive Impact. From Struggling Teens' Archives (http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/publish/SnHJan02_020101.shtml):
ROOKEY JOINS POSITIVE IMPACT
(January 16, 2002) John Andersen, owner and Executive Director of Positive Impact, Mexico, 877-236-1114, announced Steve Rookey will be joining the school as Assistant Program Director in mid-January. Rookey has more than 15 years experience working with struggling teens, most of those with the CEDU Family of Services as Primary Counselor, Base Camp Coordinator with the Ascent Wilderness Intervention Program and Program Manager for Northwest Academy.
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By the way, Waldorf Schools are not as benign as they might seem. Did you know that Rudolph Steiner believed that a child's innate left-handedness should be "corrected?" He believed that this feature was a karmic burden, similar to the karmic burden brought about by a person's skin color (which probably has something to do with a few accounts I have read of kids not being allowed to use brown or black crayons for coloring). Check out the PLANS website (http://http://www.waldorfcritics.org/index.html).
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Steven and Elissa are parents to two daughters, Kendall (age 17) and Grace (age 2). They are both licensed Masters who deliver the Avatar Course, a powerful personal development program that is offered in 71 countries around the world. They have extensive mountain hiking, skiing, sailing, gardening, dancing, and cooking experience. They love interacting and sharing their experiences with children and adults of all ages.
http://www.venturesinpeace.com/about.html (http://www.venturesinpeace.com/about.html)
And that Avatar Course that Rookey and his wife also teach? That is a newagey Scientology squirrel. Harry Palmer ran the Elmira Mission of the Church of Scientology (Elmira, NY) for about ten years starting in the mid 1970s, handing over 10% of the proceeds to the Church of Scientology. In 1982, the tithe went up to 15%, which he put up with for a few years, but then the two parties had a falling out (along with lawsuits, effectively documenting the connection). Palmer subsequently came out with the Avatar Course and related materials.
The original Avatar materials made extensive use of Scientology terminology. Harry Palmer sold them to other Scientologists, claiming that they achieved "end of case" and "cover[ed] the entire Scientology Bridge, the Buddhic path and beyond." Many of the terms continue in use in Avatar today, such as "Rundown", "Identities", "handling"; and Avatar offers similar courses of the same names ("Integrity Course" and "Professional Course").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Palmer_(author (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Palmer_(author))[/list]
Ya gotta wonder just how much of that stuff enters the "regularly scheduled experiential workshops based on [the Rookey's] extensive personal training and experience" that the unfortunates attending Ventures in Peace are subjected to...
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Holy shit.
The Scientology farm leagues.
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SERIOUSLY U ALL NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
THIS IS MY DAD U GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.... GET A LIFE.
He has more practical experience than any of you guys ever will. He is one of the most intelligent and understanding people i have ever met.
Yes, he is crazy, but he is so good at what he does, how could any of you say these things about him. You may want to watch what you say because you never
know who will read your blogs.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
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SERIOUSLY U ALL NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
THIS IS MY DAD U GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.... GET A LIFE.
He has more practical experience than any of you guys ever will. He is one of the most intelligent and understanding people i have ever met.
Yes, he is crazy, but he is so good at what he does, how could any of you say these things about him. You may want to watch what you say because you never
know who will read your blogs.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
Which one of the aforementioned do you claim genetic allegiance to? Steve Rookey or Harry Palmer?
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Ah... Never mind. Found the answer on another thread, a post made 7 minutes prior to the above quoted...
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24545&p=324726#p324724 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24545&p=324726#p324724)
u guys need to shut the fuck up about my family.
my dad is steve rookey and my mom is dana wasserman.
she is no longer married to him.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
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honestly.
this stuff offensive.
come on guys.
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honestly.
this stuff offensive.
come on guys.
That's subjective and entirely your opinion.
Interesting about the Avatar courses being used. It's definitely a Scientology squirrel (and very thinly disguised at that). Of course since a lot of the human potential movement has roots in Scientology, i'm not surprised that industry members are going "back to basics".
What pisses me off is that they sell shit shit as "personal development" and not as bat-shit crazy cult quackery. If they were up front about it and it was with fully informed consent, i'd have no problem (of course, then nobody would sign up!). It's the deception and lack of informed consent that annoys me.
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(which probably has something to do with a few accounts I have read of kids not being allowed to use brown or black crayons for coloring).
That is actually a good way to teach color mixing. My painting professor would never let us use black out of the tube. We always had to mix our own. Regardless of the reasons, it'll do the kids good in the long run.
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(which probably has something to do with a few accounts I have read of kids not being allowed to use brown or black crayons for coloring).
That is actually a good way to teach color mixing. My painting professor would never let us use black out of the tube. We always had to mix our own. Regardless of the reasons, it'll do the kids good in the long run.
I am a painter, and I can safely say NEVER USE BLACK!!! It flattens the FUCK out of everything. Boooo, black!
Paynes gray, all the way. Most of my work had a very graphic, poster-like feel to it, and they look like I used black, but there is not a drop in any of them. Paynes gray is a godsend, because it makes everything nice and juicy, and it mixes well with other colors.
As far as brown... I don't even think there IS a brown out of the tube. (Not with any legitimate paint company there isn't.) There won't even be any pigment with the word "brown" in it. Normally you choose from things such as burnt or raw umber, or burnt or raw sienna. Red oxide is nice, too.
I am Golden Acrylics' bitch.
Also, what the fuck are 18-24 year olds doing using fucking crayons in art class? You mean conte crayons, right? Or pastels? Surely you don't mean crayola.
And, even though this Steve Jr. poster is obviously having us on, did Rookey really have a kid?
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(which probably has something to do with a few accounts I have read of kids not being allowed to use brown or black crayons for coloring).
That is actually a good way to teach color mixing. My painting professor would never let us use black out of the tube. We always had to mix our own. Regardless of the reasons, it'll do the kids good in the long run.
I am a painter, and I can safely say NEVER USE BLACK!!! It flattens the FUCK out of everything. Boooo, black!
Paynes gray, all the way. Most of my work had a very graphic, poster-like feel to it, and they look like I used black, but there is not a drop in any of them. Paynes gray is a godsend, because it makes everything nice and juicy, and it mixes well with other colors.
As far as brown... I don't even think there IS a brown out of the tube. (Not with any legitimate paint company there isn't.) There won't even be any pigment with the word "brown" in it. Normally you choose from things such as burnt or raw umber, or burnt or raw sienna. Red oxide is nice, too.
I am Golden Acrylics' bitch.
Also, what the fuck are 18-24 year olds doing using fucking crayons in art class? You mean conte crayons, right? Or pastels? Surely you don't mean crayola.
And, even though this Steve Jr. poster is obviously having us on, did Rookey really have a kid?
The "ban on black" has nothing to do with learning color-mixing techniques. Apparently the Rudolph Steiner folks think black and brown are "negative" colors. And yes, I am talking about Crayola crayons, since Waldorf Schools are elementary schools.
You'll like their take on karma and bullying. They don't believe in stepping in to put a stop to it. They believe that the victim must have done something to the bully in a past life, hence the bully needs to work whatever it is out of his/her system. If things get so out of hand that something needs to be done, the victim's family is pressured into inviting the bully over to their home and being extra nice, in the hopes that this will appease him/her.
Sound familiar? It's really all the victim's fault, not the bully's. Y'all are responsible for everything that ever happened to you, even as children.
see also: http://www.waldorfcritics.org/index.html (http://www.waldorfcritics.org/index.html)
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wait, just because I dislike using black when painting, what makes you think I'll like their take on karma and bullying?
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wait, just because I dislike using black when painting, what makes you think I'll like their take on karma and bullying?
lol. I was being sarcastic. Didn't mean to yank your chain. Their* take on "karma" is pretty much the same as the program industry's take on "accountability."
Not surprisingly, Waldorf schools seem to figure in the backgrounds (or foregrounds) of a number of program diehards. Remember Rudy Bentz ending up at the Santa Fe Waldorf School after he left Academy at Swift River? Well...as noted above, Steve Rookey was at Sandpoint Waldorf School for a time in his career. This last particular Waldorf School has popped up in the CVs of other CEDU folk, too...
* Some Waldorf Schools are fruitier than others.
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* Some Waldorf Schools are fruitier than others.
Is it as fruity as their salads?
doooooooaaaarrh... pun alert. :ftard:
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* Some Waldorf Schools are fruitier than others.
Is it as fruity as their salads?
doooooooaaaarrh... pun alert. :ftard:
YEPPERS!! :D
...but with more Wal-NUTS!!
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Went away for a little while, came back and found the post by Guest.
I assume that by Guest you actually mean Kendall. Nice to meet you. I know this may be hard to believe, but just because he is your father doesn't mean he isn't capable of doing things that are damaging to other kids. Perhaps he did a good job with you, if so, I'm glad for you. However, for the kids who were subjected to the Cult of Steve, many of whom come out worshipping the ground he walked upon, that was not the case. My personal experience with him was extremely negative. I don't believe that he "helped" me in any way, shape, or form, nor was he ever capable of doing so. I also firmly believe that he shouldn't be around any kids other than his own, based not only on his extremely dubious and troubled past (where many of the activities encompassed fit the definitions of a number of felonies if caught), but also because of his behaviors with me and with other students at the school (for example: the whole young female students in much too close physical proximity for long periods of time deal, which seemed much more pedophiliac than fatherly, but I could go on all day with other anecdotes), as well as corroboration from students at other schools.
SERIOUSLY U ALL NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
THIS IS MY DAD U GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.... GET A LIFE.
He has more practical experience than any of you guys ever will. He is one of the most intelligent and understanding people i have ever met.
Yes, he is crazy, but he is so good at what he does, how could any of you say these things about him. You may want to watch what you say because you never
know who will read your blogs.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
"Yes, he is crazy" - Wonderful, we agree!
"He, is good at what he does" - Again no argument there, just what he "does" happens to be yell a lot, recount copious and graphic memories that would be much better left unsaid, yell some more, hollowly pretend to be omnipotent and existential, and randomly satisfy whatever whim his god-complex calls for at the moment.
As to the "You may want to watch what you say because you never know who will read your blogs." Are you implying that the Master of the Universe Himself would trouble His busy existence by reading this drivel? Oh Praise Him! If not, who else? I'm curious?
Also, are you aware of the history and formation of the institutions of your father's employment? Familiarizing yourself with thought reform and coercion tactics might be helpful, if you are lost I'm sure he could give you some pointers.
Lastly, are you aware of what actually went on at these schools? When you visited these places you definitely could not have seen the whole operation. The fact is that many kids have been psychologically broken down and reconstructed by your father, in an extremely degrading, inhumane, and damaging way. Regardless of whether or not he believed that he was helping, I'd imagine that he would, it was a for-profit operation at the permanent expense of the psychological well being of many innocent children, a good deal of whom are not children anymore.
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wow.. so the rooks really did have a kid, huh.
I really hope that was a troll just pretending to be kendall, though. That would be kind of sad otherwise.
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There's a new one too. 2ish. It's actually listed on the website: http://www.venturesinpeace.com/directors.html (http://www.venturesinpeace.com/directors.html)
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Elissa looks really super familiar, but when I was at RMA, steve was dating Dana, so Im not sure where I might have seen her from. I wonder if she was a staff when I was there?
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I am not aware that she worked at RMA, I think it is unlikely. She did work at Monarch part of the time I was there. She is on the younger side.
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I am not aware that she worked at RMA, I think it is unlikely. She did work at Monarch part of the time I was there. She is on the younger side.
Hehe, yeah, I noticed that. I'd normally tease someone for the fact that they fancy chicken meat, but due to the fact that I in deeply in love with someone 13 years my junior, I am officially part of the "dirty old man" club myself. (38/25.)
Although Steve took it a bit too far, since he did take a tad *too* much of a shine towards girls on the illegal side.
And that picture of him is hideous. I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea to take the magnetic lasso from photoshop and cut him out, but it looks like it's from a fifth grade scrapbook.
Of course, that is neither here nor there in regards to his ability (or lack thereof) to counsel teens.
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Hehe, yeah, I noticed that. I'd normally tease someone for the fact that they fancy chicken meat, but due to the fact that I in deeply in love with someone 13 years my junior, I am officially part of the "dirty old man" club myself. (38/25.)
Although Steve took it a bit too far, since he did take a tad *too* much of a shine towards girls on the illegal side.
And that picture of him is hideous. I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea to take the magnetic lasso from photoshop and cut him out, but it looks like it's from a fifth grade scrapbook.
Of course, that is neither here nor there in regards to his ability (or lack thereof) to counsel teens.
I agree about the picture. Perhaps you should lend him that picture you posted of him in drag (http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24101 (http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24101)). I think it would be perfect for his website.
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Went away for a little while, came back and found the post by Guest.
I assume that by Guest you actually mean Kendall. Nice to meet you. I know this may be hard to believe, but just because he is your father doesn't mean he isn't capable of doing things that are damaging to other kids. Perhaps he did a good job with you, if so, I'm glad for you. However, for the kids who were subjected to the Cult of Steve, many of whom come out worshipping the ground he walked upon, that was not the case. My personal experience with him was extremely negative. I don't believe that he "helped" me in any way, shape, or form, nor was he ever capable of doing so. I also firmly believe that he shouldn't be around any kids other than his own, based not only on his extremely dubious and troubled past (where many of the activities encompassed fit the definitions of a number of felonies if caught), but also because of his behaviors with me and with other students at the school (for example: the whole young female students in much too close physical proximity for long periods of time deal, which seemed much more pedophiliac than fatherly, but I could go on all day with other anecdotes), as well as corroboration from students at other schools.
SERIOUSLY U ALL NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
THIS IS MY DAD U GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.... GET A LIFE.
He has more practical experience than any of you guys ever will. He is one of the most intelligent and understanding people i have ever met.
Yes, he is crazy, but he is so good at what he does, how could any of you say these things about him. You may want to watch what you say because you never
know who will read your blogs.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
"Yes, he is crazy" - Wonderful, we agree!
"He, is good at what he does" - Again no argument there, just what he "does" happens to be yell a lot, recount copious and graphic memories that would be much better left unsaid, yell some more, hollowly pretend to be omnipotent and existential, and randomly satisfy whatever whim his god-complex calls for at the moment.
As to the "You may want to watch what you say because you never know who will read your blogs." Are you implying that the Master of the Universe Himself would trouble His busy existence by reading this drivel? Oh Praise Him! If not, who else? I'm curious?
Also, are you aware of the history and formation of the institutions of your father's employment? Familiarizing yourself with thought reform and coercion tactics might be helpful, if you are lost I'm sure he could give you some pointers.
Lastly, are you aware of what actually went on at these schools? When you visited these places you definitely could not have seen the whole operation. The fact is that many kids have been psychologically broken down and reconstructed by your father, in an extremely degrading, inhumane, and damaging way. Regardless of whether or not he believed that he was helping, I'd imagine that he would, it was a for-profit operation at the permanent expense of the psychological well being of many innocent children, a good deal of whom are not children anymore.
I knew Steve Rooky in my time too, and would definitly stand by this quoted post.
pfffft. Monarch. Ironic. period.
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TAC
No, this Elissa broad is a relatively new project. She was not around the 1988 RMA campus, in any capacity. I think you're crossing the streams with Lisa Carey, Sharon Kreider and some mystery dream date of yours.
Just clicked on the 'staff' page of his schools' website.
Holy shit.
I'm speechless.
Disturbing enough for an immediate recess.
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medic....
get out the paddles. call in a life flight, fire up the jaws of life.
I suffer from disturbia rookieeitus
The geriatric, nambly, 'here forever' glare thrusts my stepford self into instant paralysis.
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Cedu was our developmental strait of Hormuz
a collision of sorts
who knew what was below?
the road to perdition
winding through wasserwallet.
paved with gold.
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guilded thorns
between suppossed lovers
I know the pieces fit.
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just once, I would like to see someone of rookey's ilk REALLY have a program. Like, a TV show or something.
I would totally watch that. He'd be all serious, and end up being a novelty act on comedy central, since nobody in the viewing audience would be able to believe that he was sincere.
It's the steve rookey psychotic leprechaun show! Starring everyone's favorite psychotic leperechaun, Steve Rookey!
"Everyone has a pot of gold inside them! Go buy yourself a laxative and let the world see you shine!"
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You may or may not like Steve Rookey but he has had a tremendous success rate when dealing with kids who have a tremendous failure rate. He has taken and continues to take on people whose lives are at risk and he seems to be able to put them back on track. This, in an area where the failure rate far exceeds the success. We all should thank God he was put on this earth and he has chosen this profession. Shame on you "Stupids" who either don't know you were saved or are clueless about what he is dealing with. Thank you Steve.
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Steve Rookey imprisoned, sexually abused, and tortured people. He deserves the electric chair. No one's saying he failed to "help." People are saying he's a sexual abuser and torturer. See the difference, guest?
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You may or may not like Steve Rookey but he has had a tremendous success rate when dealing with kids who have a tremendous failure rate. He has taken and continues to take on people whose lives are at risk and he seems to be able to put them back on track. This, in an area where the failure rate far exceeds the success. We all should thank God he was put on this earth and he has chosen this profession. Shame on you "Stupids" who either don't know you were saved or are clueless about what he is dealing with. Thank you Steve.
"I'm Steve Rookey, and I endorse this message."
Steve Rookey, success with failure.
(Paid for by the Friends of Steve Rookey foundation)
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Steve Rookey was a staff at Rocky Mountain Academy when I went there from 1991 - 1993. It seemed to me, that Steve Rookey had a weekly quota per how many students he would "blow away" in raps or the dining hall.
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I have a hard time believing that this cretin limited this "blowing" to just raps and the dining hall. People of his character tend to press the limits of their newly found power. It would not surprise me if someone came forward with allegations of sexual misconduct on his part.
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I have a hard time believing that this cretin limited this "blowing" to just raps and the dining hall. People of his character tend to press the limits of their newly found power. It would not surprise me if someone came forward with allegations of sexual misconduct on his part.
Rookey was the ass who was in charge of controling my so called dating privleges, and was he ever involved w/ me and how i felt about her....scarey shit that guy had going on back then..i had to ask the rookey if i could kiss a girl, what a joke.
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WE KNOW ALL THESE BLOGS ARE YOU GIA, ALL OF THEM. THESE SLANDEROUS ACCUSATIONS ARE ILLEGAL. SLANDER IS AN UNTRUTHFUL ORAL OR WRITTEN STATEMENT ABOUT A PERSON THAT HARMS THE PERSON'S REPUTATION OR STANDING IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU FOR YOUR UNTRUE CLAIMS. EVERYONE YOU HAVE SLANDERED HERE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE YOU ARE SLANDERING ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE EXPECT YOU TO IMMEDIATELY CEASE SLANDERING.
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Alright just a few things, steve rookey, eh I dunno. I had my problems with him, but I never really got close to him or anything so I dunno. I suppose I have mixed feelings. The whole thing with Elissa weirded me out a bit but I figured eh too each their own. I would have thought monarch might have been a bit down on it, but I guess steve was respected enough for them to let it slide? It all happened while I was attending Monarch and they made a huge deal out of gathering everyone and apologizing about hiding their relationship, it all seems a bit silly now.
Now on to my question, which I may have already answered but any other thoughts on it I wouldn't mind hearing about. So he has started a program for people 18-24 right? Well when I first got to Monarch, if I had been 18 I just would have gone home. I mean yes I did turn 18 while I was there but I personally was convinced to stay with the promise from my parents to pay my college tuition. ( I figured 6 more months of it for a lot less headache later was a good deal) But even I think I would have walked out the first week if I was 18, so how does he get people to stay? Extended custody? Parents threatening to take away support? Mostly kids that have been brainwashed go? Is it less intrusive then Monarch so people don't want to run screaming away?
Sorry just a bit curious...
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Alright just a few things, steve rookey, eh I dunno. I had my problems with him, but I never really got close to him or anything so I dunno. I suppose I have mixed feelings. The whole thing with Elissa weirded me out a bit but I figured eh too each their own. I would have thought monarch might have been a bit down on it, but I guess steve was respected enough for them to let it slide? It all happened while I was attending Monarch and they made a huge deal out of gathering everyone and apologizing about hiding their relationship, it all seems a bit silly now.
Now on to my question, which I may have already answered but any other thoughts on it I wouldn't mind hearing about. So he has started a program for people 18-24 right? Well when I first got to Monarch, if I had been 18 I just would have gone home. I mean yes I did turn 18 while I was there but I personally was convinced to stay with the promise from my parents to pay my college tuition. ( I figured 6 more months of it for a lot less headache later was a good deal) But even I think I would have walked out the first week if I was 18, so how does he get people to stay? Extended custody? Parents threatening to take away support? Mostly kids that have been brainwashed go? Is it less intrusive then Monarch so people don't want to run screaming away?
Sorry just a bit curious...
psy would have good insight on this, methinks.
The young adult duck farm modus operandi is frighteningly resourceful at finding ways to keep people there.
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They never stop. They need to be tracked down and sued into the ground, every last one of them.
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He must tone it down until he gets them under his will...
I went to Monarch and saw Steve freak out on kids outside of groups (raps) in front of everyone more than one or two times, once at a kid just for filling his water bottle with milk. I mean the kid had only been there for a month and he publicly humiliated him and made him cry in front of 40 people. nuff said.
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Workassignmentz:
I know this isn’t a “My mom got married so much it takes two hands to count out the step dads thread, but your avatar scares me…a lot.
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He must tone it down until he gets them under his will...
I went to Monarch and saw Steve freak out on kids outside of groups (raps) in front of everyone more than one or two times, once at a kid just for filling his water bottle with milk. I mean the kid had only been there for a month and he publicly humiliated him and made him cry in front of 40 people. nuff said.
Jesus fuck. That guy is such a class A tool, and it doesnt sound like he's changed a bit or learned a fucking thing about how to treat people with basic decency.
How is that even possible? It almost seems like it would take MORE work just to stay an asshole for that length of time than to actually unfuck yourself.
Personality disorder, anyone?
CEDU: now (and always) hiring borderlines to freak the fuck out on your offspring.
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Steve Rookey was a tool. isn't he still married to a Wasserman. He was a coke whore to begin with and i don't think much has changed. volleyball wierdo with bad hair, and even worse teeth...yeah. I was helped.
what a laugh about getting your dating privledges from him, i remember that, I did too. Yet I never told the school about having had a little action (very little sadly) on a home visit, and always wondered if I just should have told him...god he ran one of my workshops and was around Strooky a lot.
whatever, not surprised about his current emplyment. or the way he humiliates kids still.
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he is no longer married to a wasserman
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He must tone it down until he gets them under his will...
I went to Monarch and saw Steve freak out on kids outside of groups (raps) in front of everyone more than one or two times, once at a kid just for filling his water bottle with milk. I mean the kid had only been there for a month and he publicly humiliated him and made him cry in front of 40 people. nuff said.
What an asshole.
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The post started with Steve's background and experiences. The problem is that his experiences started with RMA/CEDU. You go to "Shitty University" and get a "shitty degree" you then have shitty credentials.
Steve's work in the Troubled Teen Industry began at RMA/CEDU, and because RMA/CEDU were LifeSpring, Synanon, EST clones with a little Khalil Gibran thrown in for added weirdness, Steve's experience is in serious question. His foundation of experience is based on a cult, one that was sued in to the ground for harming children, plain and simple. The fact the guy started off as the hired cook for the kitchen, shows that he had nothing much coming in. But that he went out with his PhD in Messing Up Kids, from RMA University, shows that where he is today, is a product of where he came from. He came from RMA/CEDU, thus he is today what RMA/CEDU were. You can't escape your past no matter how hard you run.
It's like a cook in the navy coming up the bridge after the ship has been hit, finding everyone dead, taking command, leading the ship to absolute disaster and then later claiming he deserves to be an Admiral because he was briefly in charge once. The real world doesn't apply to these Troubled Teen Schools. No university in the country would employ a professor who had been a cook at their last job. No hospital would employ as a psychologist someone who didn't at least have some actual education such as a Masters Degree in that specific field. But in the Troubled Teen Industry, anyone can become the Director. Hang out long enough, learn the system and you too can soon start your own Troubled Teen School.
Isn't it telling that not a single one of these Troubled Teen, Wilderness Boot Camps are founded by actual professional Psychologists or Psychotherapists? People with actual schooling and training in these areas? Only in the Troubled Teen Industry are short order cooks, local carpenters, local farmers, past criminals, former drug addicts, able to run or start schools for kids.
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It's like a cook in the navy coming up the bridge after the ship has been hit, finding everyone dead, taking command, leading the ship to absolute disaster
Not to bust your balls but considering that everyone on the bridge is already dead I'd suggest to you that the ship and its crew has already found themselves in the midst of a big fucking disaster even before the cook wandered onto the scene.
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It's like a cook in the navy coming up the bridge after the ship has been hit, finding everyone dead, taking command, leading the ship to absolute disaster
Not to bust your balls but considering that everyone on the bridge is already dead I'd suggest to you that the ship and its crew has already found themselves in the midst of a big fucking disaster even before the cook wandered onto the scene.
what about captain cook?
:ftard:
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Well, if we're going to bring in Captain Cook, that's a different story. But he wouldn't have taken command and then led the ship to disaster. He would have taken command and then gone off to discover new lands. Or Atlantis. He discovered Australia and Hawaii, both of which are cool places. Steve the Rookie? He just would have done nothing useful, everyone would have died and he would have explained it all away as having stepped in to a losing situation and that any subsequent disasters were not his doing. But odds are, his cooking was partly to blame for the original disaster, as a thorough investigation would surely prove.
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Steve's work in the Troubled Teen Industry began at RMA/CEDU, and because RMA/CEDU were LifeSpring, Synanon, EST clones with a little Khalil Gibran thrown in for added weirdness, Steve's experience is in serious question.
Ya know... I think the obsession with Kahlil Gibran may have been a sign of the times, perhaps a product of the then popular culture's understanding of the Human Potential movement? Joe Gauld's pontifications, particularly the earlier ones, make ample reference to Gibran. He did interpret him a little differently than Wasserman did, of course. All these goo-roos like to come off as being extra specially unique. A little bit of this, a little bit of that, eye of newt, wing of bat, gizzard of a lizard...
Isn't it telling that not a single one of these Troubled Teen, Wilderness Boot Camps are founded by actual professional Psychologists or Psychotherapists? People with actual schooling and training in these areas? Only in the Troubled Teen Industry are short order cooks, local carpenters, local farmers, past criminals, former drug addicts, able to run or start schools for kids.
Some of those so-called professionals can be pretty screwed up, if you ask me. I guess you could say it's analogous to there being a tremendous range in personal philosophy which does end up affecting practice, not to mention the truism that there are charlatans in any industry. The APA was split pretty much right down the middle, if I recall correctly, re. Margaret Singer's Taskforce Report (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_taskforce_on_Deceptive_and_Indirect_Techniques_of_Persuasion_and_Control) on thought reform and cults, hence some members tried to preempt its completion by filing an amicus curiae brief in early 1987.
Certainly some of the programs discussed on fornits seem to favor such a "mental health professional" to do their dirty work, e.g., most of those run by Aspen Ed Group. These are just as fucked up (albeit in a slightly different way) as the ones which eschew the degrees...
While I totally agree with your comment about short order cooks and other hacks performing brain salad surgery (Hyde School is that type of place also), I also don't think having mental health professionals on board will change anything as far as the damage this industry wreaks. Some people just think they have every right to mess with kids' psyches, they think know what they are doing, and they are gonna try to do it regardless of the consequences. It all boils down to "the ends justifying the means."
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Yes, some professional can be whack jobs too. Just because you are a holder of a PhD in psychology doesn't mean you are good at your job or work well with people.
But you don't go in to a hospital and find nurses who have never been to nursing school, doctors who never went to medical school. Yeah, you might find an "alternative medicine" clinic where nobody is really a professional, but what would you expect to get out of there?
RMA/CEDU prided themselves on not having professionals. Not having people with college degrees. Their stated reasons for that pride may have been that they weren't going to use the "normal" procedures and methods of professionals, but personally I think they wanted to avoid the issue of ethics. Most professionals have to undergo ethics training, sign statements that they will work ethically and are regulated by others who try and maintain standards of ethics. Some measure of accountability. Whack jobs might get through the cracks, but I think RMA/CEDU were trying to avoid any professionals and subsequently any ethics or oversight. And I think they succeeded.
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Who is that guy, he's gay as hell, but he wrote this great book about being raised in a cult family of a shrink? I think.. eh.. I think he wrote the book Running With Scissors.
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Who is that guy, he's gay as hell, but he wrote this great book about being raised in a cult family of a shrink? I think.. eh.. I think he wrote the book Running With Scissors.
Augusten Burroughs. He also wrote "A wolf at the table", "Magical Thinking" and "Possible side effects".
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Bingo.. that's the one.. Great book of his Running With Scissors and its about being raised in a psych cult.
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RMA/CEDU prided themselves on not having professionals. Not having people with college degrees. Their stated reasons for that pride may have been that they weren't going to use the "normal" procedures and methods of professionals, but personally I think they wanted to avoid the issue of ethics.
It may have also had something to do with the time period (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=28357). I think the earlier programs definitely had that anti-psych mindset (despite the fact that they used every single psychological tool for manipulation that they could get their hands on from the Human Potential movement). I've heard it described at Hyde as "all you really need is ... to care." In fact, I think there was a real antipathy towards professionals, like they were "too much in their head," and not "real" enough.
Maybe that mindset goes back to program roots which were in the addiction treatment field, where former addicts could be considered to be somewhat on par with those who had done the legwork in academia, since they had the "field experience." That field experience was actually considered superior, at Hyde, to any bona fide in-depth course of study. Joe Gauld always used to say, "You can't con a con (and you can't kid a kid)." About half the time (according to my memory), he would only say the first part of that quote, lol.
But aside from being able to come up with their own barometer of ethics, I think it also had a lot to do with founder ego, namely folk who possess an inflated sense of self-importance and destiny. Hey, maybe they were right. After all, here we are, decades later, still wringing our gray matter over it all... I think megalomaniac narcissists like Wasserman really wanted to play God, really had a sick psychological need to play God and, on some level, probably couldn't help themselves from trying to play God. And to be able to control people like they did, they had to be in charge of "the rules," whatever they may have been. An outside body of expertise would have been able to second-guess or undercut that way too much.
Most professionals have to undergo ethics training, sign statements that they will work ethically and are regulated by others who try and maintain standards of ethics. Some measure of accountability. Whack jobs might get through the cracks, but I think RMA/CEDU were trying to avoid any professionals and subsequently any ethics or oversight. And I think they succeeded.
To renew their license, professionals would need to undergo some kind of regular review by their peers, no? They would be held accountable to some other body of judgment, not Mel's. My impression is that would not have sat too well with Mel.
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Mel Wasserman, dyslexic, only had a 7th grade education, undoubtedly why he shunned anything with an academic bent. He did have his sidekick, Jim Powell, ex-Synanonnie, who had a PhD from a non-acredited program. He was "grandfathered" in when California passed stricter rules for therapists.
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Didn't Synanon have their own university or something where they pumped out fake degrees until that was taken away from them at some point? I know our diplomas were built on the same life credits nonsense.
I didn't know Mel had only a 7th grade education and was dyslexic. Dyslexic people usually have trouble perceiving the world as it is. Backwards in fact. My step monster was the head of the International Orton Dyslexia Society for a number of years. She had a PhD from Stanford University, but she cheated to get it.
It doesn't surprise me that those who founded CEDU were anti-education, against any formal and established structure and against any accountability. Did Mel's own kids have troubles too? Was he unable to raise them properly, thus creating his own system where kids are dominated and subjugated to relentless, unending punishments as his way of getting back at the world for his own inability to properly raise his own?
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Now that is interesting, I didn't know that Synanon had its own fake school of higher learning, but it makes sense. Dr. Soltani, who provided psych services to CEDU also had his degree from whatever school it was...that was how Soltani got hooked into CEDU. A few years ago I met a school psych, who knew Soltani and did not think too highly of him. I mentioned that he had a cracker-jacks box degree and the psych was quite insulted, he, too had the same surprise inside degree! Talk about inserting foot in mouth!
From what I remember, Mark, Mel's son was the whipping boy for Mel. I don't know too much about Mel's daughters. They were fairly young when Mel started his program. I imagine he spent more time with kids other than his own. He was pretty much out of the picture when I was at CEDU, descending into dementia in Idaho, I think.
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Mel Wasserman, dyslexic, only had a 7th grade education, undoubtedly why he shunned anything with an academic bent.
James Traub did an article on Hyde School a couple of years ago titled "The Moral Imperative (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=19188&p=266560#p266560)," in which he described Hyde as a place "where character is understood as a kind of antidote to excessive academicism."
Didn't Synanon have their own university or something where they pumped out fake degrees until that was taken away from them at some point? I know our diplomas were built on the same life credits nonsense.
Now that is interesting, I didn't know that Synanon had its own fake school of higher learning, but it makes sense. Dr. Soltani, who provided psych services to CEDU also had his degree from whatever school it was...that was how Soltani got hooked into CEDU. A few years ago I met a school psych, who knew Soltani and did not think too highly of him. I mentioned that he had a cracker-jacks box degree and the psych was quite insulted, he, too had the same surprise inside degree! Talk about inserting foot in mouth!
Do you know what the actual name of this "university" was?
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Yes -- it was BROWNSTAIN University.
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Brownstain U. sounds about right.
But seriously, I can't remember where I read it. But I read it within the last couple of months. I was researching Synanon and Mel Wasserman and I remember reading that they had a Diploma Mill in operation, giving out degrees for cash. This went on apparently for a decade or two, but was finally shut down. I sure wish I knew what it was called. I will try and find it again.
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Brownstain U. sounds about right.
But seriously, I can't remember where I read it. But I read it within the last couple of months. I was researching Synanon and Mel Wasserman and I remember reading that they had a Diploma Mill in operation, giving out degrees for cash. This went on apparently for a decade or two, but was finally shut down. I sure wish I knew what it was called. I will try and find it again.
Could it possibly be "Costa Mesa Community College" or something like that?
For some reason that name popped in my head, I don't know why. I do however remember
several Cedu staff members during my stay (1991-1992) telling me how they
went back to school & "earned" Assosciates degrees after they started working at Cedu.
Of course they all put a "pro cedu" spin on their stories - telling me how working @ cedu & finishing the program gave them the inspiration & confidence they needed to go back & finish school, and how in doing so they "learned & grew & are now better people thanks to Cedu." ::puke::
Russ Decker was one of them - and I don't believe for a second that Russ could ever earn a legitimate college degree. I mean the guy was/is a total blockhead! Honestly, at 15 yrs. old I knew I was smarter (at least more book smart) than Russ & many other staff who were "teaching" us @ Cedu - so the revealation that Mel Wasserman was counterfitting diplomas & selling them for cash doesn't surprise me at all. I mean we already know that Mel was a liar, a cheat, a theif, & an overall scumbag in general - so counterfitting certainly would've been the logical next step for him.
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I don't know if Mel Wasserman was running a diploma mill, though it wouldn't surprise me to find out he did. But Synanon ran one as far as I know. They did have a location in Venice Beach called Casa Del Mar, a renovated hotel I think. But I don't think the college degrees came from any fixed location, but rather just a couple of professors or something signing off on everyone's "life credits." Chopping wood, feeding the chickens, cleaning our dorms and the house all the time, was how many of us at RMA/CEDU got our High School credits to graduate. If it worked for us, I am sure they wouldn't have had too much trouble forming a "private" community college to give out Associate Degrees. Bachelors, Masters and Doctorates probably wouldn't fly, but who would really check the background on the legitimacy of a two-year degree? But as far as I know, Synanon was able to give out the higher degrees. But they were really well connected. Then again, with all the celebrity kids and elite kids going to RMA/CEDU, maybe Wasserman was connected well too. However, I have no information that Wasserman was running a diploma mill, except for the life credit system the students got to be a part of. Lucky us, eh?
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Russ, blockhead that he was, ultimately did get a degree in business from Redlands after he left CEDU. He went on to Loma Linda to get his MFC and was on his way to a Ph.D from Loma Linda before his fortunate incarceration for battery and carrying a dangerous weapon AND not adhering to the terms of his sentencing.
Brandi Elliot received a correspondence degree from Coast Community which is why it might ring a bell. I'm sure there were others.
I wish I could recall the college that Powell and Soltani attended. I remember being shocked at Powell's resume...B.A. (or B.S. - more applicable) one year, an MA the following and one year later MAGIC, a Ph.D.!
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Russ, blockhead that he was, ultimately did get a degree in business from Redlands after he left CEDU. He went on to Loma Linda to get his MFC and was on his way to a Ph.D from Loma Linda before his fortunate incarceration for battery and carrying a dangerous weapon AND not adhering to the terms of his sentencing.
SHOCKING! I must say that I really didn't think Russ Decker had it in him. Then again, apparently this all happened after he quit Cedu -- so one could reasonably assume that once out of the "cedu family", Russ realized he had no real job skills; therefore, no doubt he felt an immediate urgency to get educated. That would be as good of a motivation as any. It still doesn't make Russ any less of a blockhead though. Actually, Russ is an even bigger blockhead now. Think about it. With all of his advanced education, Russ still couldn't come up with a better way for resolving his domestic problems than forcing open his inlaws front door & beating up his stepson in the shower - on a family holiday no less!!! And blowing off his sentencing terms? Is Russ smoking crack? I mean seriously, how fucking stupid could Russ be? Blockhead, Blockhead, Blockhead.
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Breaking News
Posted: Sep 9, 2009
Ventures in Peace
Lolo, MT
What's happening at Ventures in Peace (http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/publish/VenturesinPeaceBN_090909.shtml)
Contact:
Steve and Elissa Rookey
Owners and Directors
406-273-4273
http://www.venturesinpeace.com (http://www.venturesinpeace.com)
September 9, 2009
Since our first student arrived at the end of March, we have enrolled six students. We currently have three students. Three of our students had successful summer programs at the University of MT, two are currently enrolled full-time and one is going to Marymount College. One of our students is currently working towards high school completion through our distance learning facility, which is equipped to handle high school and college classes/credits/completion from a variety of competent providers.
Our home is designed to accommodate 10 young men and women (ages 18 to 24) in safe, segregated living quarters and our heating system has been converted to a highly energy-efficient and solar ready unit.
Our 3,000 sq.-ft. garden space is producing so much that we are having a difficult time eating everything! We have also been teaching our students how to can, freeze, vacuum seal, and dry our garden goodies.
We have been busy building and working all summer on our vocational curriculum which has included completing the walking path up the mountainside, which is approximately 1 mile long and we have installed a 12X30 horse barn with two stalls and one loafing shed.
We have some exciting projects we will be tackling soon, including the addition of a wall tent or yurt at the top of our mountain, which will be available for solo retreats and the addition and set up of an Equine Therapy program and periodic Wilderness First Responder courses added to our curriculum for those students that are interested.
We have updated our website with more photos and text- please take a look!
If you're checking out the programs in north-western Montana this fall, please come visit us in Lolo, just 15 minutes south of Missoula. We would love to show you around, answer your questions, and share a meal. Thanks, Steven & Elissa Rookey
Copyright © 2009, Woodbury Reports, Inc.
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Good old Lon Woodbury is the contact for this program. No surprise there. Tells you what kind of place it is if he is backing it.
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Good old Lon Woodbury is the contact for this program. No surprise there. Tells you what kind of place it is if he is backing it.
Maybe I'm just not getting it, but how exactly is Lon the contact?
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Breaking News
Posted: Sep 9, 2009
Ventures in Peace
Lolo, MT
What's happening at Ventures in Peace (http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/publish/VenturesinPeaceBN_090909.shtml)
Contact:
Steve and Elissa Rookey
Owners and Directors
406-273-4273
http://www.venturesinpeace.com (http://www.venturesinpeace.com)
September 9, 2009
Since our first student arrived at the end of March, we have enrolled six students. We currently have three students. Three of our students had successful summer programs at the University of MT, two are currently enrolled full-time and one is going to Marymount College. One of our students is currently working towards high school completion through our distance learning facility, which is equipped to handle high school and college classes/credits/completion from a variety of competent providers.
Our home is designed to accommodate 10 young men and women (ages 18 to 24) in safe, segregated living quarters and our heating system has been converted to a highly energy-efficient and solar ready unit.
Our 3,000 sq.-ft. garden space is producing so much that we are having a difficult time eating everything! We have also been teaching our students how to can, freeze, vacuum seal, and dry our garden goodies.
We have been busy building and working all summer on our vocational curriculum which has included completing the walking path up the mountainside, which is approximately 1 mile long and we have installed a 12X30 horse barn with two stalls and one loafing shed.
We have some exciting projects we will be tackling soon, including the addition of a wall tent or yurt at the top of our mountain, which will be available for solo retreats and the addition and set up of an Equine Therapy program and periodic Wilderness First Responder courses added to our curriculum for those students that are interested.
We have updated our website with more photos and text- please take a look!
If you're checking out the programs in north-western Montana this fall, please come visit us in Lolo, just 15 minutes south of Missoula. We would love to show you around, answer your questions, and share a meal. Thanks, Steven & Elissa Rookey
Copyright © 2009, Woodbury Reports, Inc.
If you look at the bottom, it says Woodbury Reports, Inc. Then if you actually use the link and go to the page, when you click on contact, the email program pops up and the addressee is Lon Woodbury himself. This guy has his fingers in the pies of almost every teen prison camp. And he doesn't suggest to parents any programs he doesn't personally get kickbacks from.
And when I was at Rocky Mountain Academy, he was on campus all the time. Lives in Bonners Ferry with his wife Denise, who is a District Attorney there. Hence why Richard Armstrong, after "allegedly" raping Twila Stephenson, a former RMA staff member when Richard was working there, got off without being charged. Thick as thieves they are.
Additionally, Steve Rookey was the hired cook when I was there. Arrived in late '84, early '85. From what I hear he later married in to the Wasserman Clan. Not sure about that, as I have no personal knowledge this was the case, but it makes sense. So Steve Rookie was staff at RMA, when Lon Woodbury had an office on campus, and now Lon is canvasing on behalf of Steve's new Gardening Cult. A guy who was a hired cook is now running his own program. Blows the mind, it does!
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Then if you actually use the link and go to the page, when you click on contact, the email program pops up and the addressee is Lon Woodbury himself.
Ah! I get this when I click on contact:
mailto:[email protected]?subject=Strugglingteens.com%20BN
...which merely means that "Strugglingteens.com BN" is noted on the subject line, not that it actually goes to Struggling Teens, if I understood it correctly.
I suppose you could call it a "referrer tag." If you check the contact specs on all of Lon's other articles, essays, and what not, you'll find that the exact same phenomenon occurs. "BN" undoubtedly stands for "Breaking News," as it was in one of those news bits that the above contact link was found. If it had been in an Essay, it'd probably be "ES," etc. etc.
Although... I am sure he'd love to be CC'd on all correspondence generated by those who read his site, were it feasible! ;D
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Additionally, Steve Rookey was the hired cook when I was there. Arrived in late '84, early '85. From what I hear he later married in to the Wasserman Clan. Not sure about that, as I have no personal knowledge this was the case, but it makes sense.
That would appear to be Dana Wasserman, judging by the following post:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24545&p=324724#p324724 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24545&p=324724#p324724)
u guys need to shut the fuck up about my family.
my dad is steve rookey and my mom is dana wasserman.
she is no longer married to him.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
Another post, probably from the same person, posted just 7 minutes later on the first page of this here very thread:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=26035&p=324739#p324725 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=26035&p=324739#p324725)
SERIOUSLY U ALL NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
THIS IS MY DAD U GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.... GET A LIFE.
He has more practical experience than any of you guys ever will. He is one of the most intelligent and understanding people i have ever met.
Yes, he is crazy, but he is so good at what he does, how could any of you say these things about him. You may want to watch what you say because you never
know who will read your blogs.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
But ya really could confirm all that with Castle, as I believe he was at RMA when Steve and Dana were dating, IIRC...
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SERIOUSLY U ALL NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
THIS IS MY DAD U GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.... GET A LIFE.
He has more practical experience than any of you guys ever will. He is one of the most intelligent and understanding people i have ever met.
Yes, he is crazy, but he is so good at what he does, how could any of you say these things about him. You may want to watch what you say because you never
know who will read your blogs.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
Suck my dick and swallow! Better yet, let your daddy suck my dick and swallow.
God, I can't even begin to tell you how sorry I am that you ended up with a dad like that.
Hope he didn't do a "John Phillips" to you.
In any case, stop trolling our posts, bitch. :twofinger:
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Guest wrote:SERIOUSLY U ALL NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
THIS IS MY DAD U GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.... GET A LIFE.
He has more practical experience than any of you guys ever will. He is one of the most intelligent and understanding people i have ever met.
Yes, he is crazy, but he is so good at what he does, how could any of you say these things about him. You may want to watch what you say because you never
know who will read your blogs.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
Where to begin?
Well, I am not sure Seriously was a good first word to use here. One would have to assume the author was being serious given the number of exclamation points used, even if they were not used when they should have been, so the use of this word was redundant. And on this topic of exclamation point usage, I would point out this sentence. Get a life. That sentence, based on the tone of the post, of all the sentences, should have ended with an exclamation point.
Consistency would be my next issue. "U GUYS" is used early on, and then "you guys" in the subsequent paragraph. Normally the letter U is substituted for the longer version You, when an author is trying to write quickly or is simply lazy. To find both usages in the same post indicates the author is mixed up and does not understand the value and common reasons for when either version is used.
And are we to assume that whereas the first paragraph used all capital letters and some exclamation points suggesting the author was upset and yelling, does the lack of same in the second paragraph indicate the anger has subsided and is not meant to convey the author is still upset, despite similar language? And because the third paragraph returns to the use of capital letters and exclamation points, does this reinforce the perception that the entire second paragraph is not said in anger?
And describing the father as crazy, the definitions of which include insane, mentally deranged, senseless, impractical and totally unsound, would not work well with the other descriptive words for the father as being intelligent, and likely not with the word understanding either and certainly not with the word practical.
Peculiarities is next on the list here. The sentence, "He is one of the most intelligent and understanding people i have ever met." is not just inconsistent like above, but strange in the context that someone claiming to be a son to the subject of the post would say they have met their father. To say "...the most understanding person I have ever known." would have made more sense. Then there is the line, "You may want to watch what you say, because you never know who will read..." Say and read? Never and will?
And then we get back to the proper use of punctuation marks. Moving past the exclamation points, we see that the author, whose father may be described as intelligent, clearly has no formal education in English. This is likely a product of his father's lack of effort in providing kids with education. The current "school" run by Steven Rookey requires students to do distance learning as there clearly is no person on the premises --the father included-- capable of teaching even basic English skills. This is why we see sentences like "Yes, he is crazy, but he is so good at what he does, how could any of you say these things about him." The word "does" should have had a period after it, ending the sentence. The next half was clearly a question, and therefore needed to end with a question mark.
I think the author is in desperate need of a good education with an emphasis on basic English. He is unlikely to receive this education at his father's program or any program his father has ever worked at, but I might also suggest that whatever program is sought, it should include anger management.
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steve rookey. LOL. here's laughing at you, stevie. :jawdrop:
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You all have issues. No wonder you went to that school. Its called issues. Get a life maybe one not on a computer? Oh right you can't because you are wrapped up in online bullying. Very mature.
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Really? Then wtf are YOU doing here?
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steve rookey. LOL. here's laughing at you, stevie. :jawdrop:
You all have issues. No wonder you went to that school. Its called issues. Get a life maybe one not on a computer? Oh right you can't because you are wrapped up in online bullying. Very mature.
Really? Then wtf are YOU doing here?
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :jerry:
Sounds about right...
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"You all have issues. No wonder you went to that school. Its called issues. Get a life maybe one not on a computer? Oh right you can't because you are wrapped up in online bullying. Very mature." from Guest.
Yes, I would assume that this is Steve Rookey's daughter again. I would assume that you have no idea what happened while your father was working at the Monarch School. However, Steve Rookey was one the worst verbal abusers at the school. Talk about problems that man had them. From wondering the streets of Spokane for decades "high on all types of dirty drugs" to teaching random teenagers how to get their life "in agreement." His teachings included quite advanced training in excessive yelling. "THATS RIGHT GET IT ALL OUT!"
And guest. If you dont want to listen to this. get off the computer yourself. We have a right to express the abuses we felt from Steve Rookey. Because to Steve Rookey there is only one way of therapy. Yelling and getting other kids to yell at other kids. Constructive talking was not allowed when he was running a group. Just yelling. Or if you wanted to speak coherently at first that maybe okay for the first 10 minutes. Then there better be some hardcore yelling or Steve Rookey was not pleased. Remember peers, It's not "real" unless one is yelling so much so no one can understand you.
After seeing the videos of Charles E. Dederich on youtube. Uncanny resemblance to the man Steve Rookey. Dare I say...
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Russ, blockhead that he was, ultimately did get a degree in business from Redlands after he left CEDU. He went on to Loma Linda to get his MFC and was on his way to a Ph.D from Loma Linda before his fortunate incarceration for battery and carrying a dangerous weapon AND not adhering to the terms of his sentencing.
Brandi Elliot received a correspondence degree from Coast Community which is why it might ring a bell. I'm sure there were others.
I wish I could recall the college that Powell and Soltani attended. I remember being shocked at Powell's resume...B.A. (or B.S. - more applicable) one year, an MA the following and one year later MAGIC, a Ph.D.!
Saeed Soltani was not a CEDU employee - he had a contract to provide services. CEDU didn't want him there but the state required it. He always had some therapists working for him. One therapist got fired because her kids started getting pulled and CEDU got paranoid and thought she was telling parents to pull the kids. So Soltani fired her and there was no time to say goodby or anything. Just GONE. I don't know where he got his degree.
I heard that Jim Powell met Wasserman at some function and very quickly had a Ph.D. I think he might have gotten it at California Coast - I heard that somewhere. Lots of CEDU people got degrees there. He continues to get powerful positions. He didn't care about the kids at all - it was only about the money - keeping the kids there and scaring their parents.
Monster.
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Geez 'um. I had meant to post this earlier. Guess it's way old news already...
I just can't believe they keep getting more new students. Maybe those students don't stay very long.
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Ventures in Peace Welcomes Baby Rookey (http://http://www.venturesinpeace.com/)
(July 3, 2009) Owners of Ventures in Peace, Lolo, MT, 406-273-4273, Steven and Elissa Rookey and big sister Grace, age 3, are excited to announce the arrival of Cairn Christian Rookey, born June 21, 2009. In addition to the new arrival, Ventures in Peace is blessed to have 5 new students in their program. (Congratulations also from the team at Woodbury Reports, Inc.!)
(http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/uploads/steven-elissa_rookey_babyweb.jpg)
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Newly obtained documents prepared by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) describe an elaborate sting operation to capture biological weapons trafficker Steve Rookey in Bangkok and America's current appeal to extradite him to New York. Documents, made public recently, confirm Mr. Rookey had access to biological weapons and where they were located.
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Wait...is this the same Steve Rookie that worked in the kitchen at RMA and hooked up with Dana Wasserman?!?
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Wait...is this the same Steve Rookie that worked in the kitchen at RMA and hooked up with Dana Wasserman?!?
Yep. See ALSO (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24545&p=324726#p324724).
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LMAO
Steve Rookey and Dana Wasserman were absolute trash.
It appears that the apple (daughter) didn't fall too far from the tree.
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You all have issues. No wonder you went to that school. Its called issues. Get a life maybe one not on a computer? Oh right you can't because you are wrapped up in online bullying. Very mature.
Don't be such a little cunt. Your father is an abusive little faggot. Anytime he feels man enough, I'd love to meet him somewhere for a private rap session. You'd never find his body. :suicide: